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> <channel><title>Comments on: US Financial Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac</title> <atom:link href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/</link> <description>local real estate news, statistics, and commentary without the sales spin.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:07:02 -0700</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/#comment-5447</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:20:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5447</guid> <description>I was figuring the statment above on having a roommate to share the cost on that 900. dollar unit.&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;  Maybe thats a pipedream.. that rents would be that low. Just seems like a lot of units 1000 and maybe a lot of those units will end up being part of the rental market? it depends a lot on how bad our economy is in a couple of years. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   It will be highly doubtful any of my co-workers can currently come close to affording any of those units. There is a few however its only because there current residences have appreciated so much in the last several years.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5447&#039;,&#039;Anonymous&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5447&#039;,&#039;Anonymous&#039;,&#039;I was figuring the statment above on having a roommate to share the cost on that 900. dollar unit.&lt;br\/&gt; &lt;br\/&gt;  Maybe thats a pipedream.. that rents would be that low. Just seems like a lot of units 1000 and maybe a lot of those units will end up being part of the rental market? it depends a lot on how bad our economy is in a couple of years. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;   It will be highly doubtful any of my co-workers can currently come close to affording any of those units. There is a few however its only because there current residences have appreciated so much in the last several years.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was figuring the statment above on having a roommate to share the cost on that 900. dollar unit.</p><p> Maybe thats a pipedream.. that rents would be that low. Just seems like a lot of units 1000 and maybe a lot of those units will end up being part of the rental market? it depends a lot on how bad our economy is in a couple of years.</p><p> It will be highly doubtful any of my co-workers can currently come close to affording any of those units. There is a few however its only because there current residences have appreciated so much in the last several years.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5446</guid> <description>Thats what Im thinking.. Maybe in about 2 years I will be able to rent one those units for about 900. dollars a month, not the 1 bedroom units.. make that 2 bedrooms.. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   Thats about what Boeing Wages support... seriously I have been working for Boeing for 6 years and my take home is 1,300. dollars every 2 weeks, Impressive-Not Hardly.&lt;br/&gt;       &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;  I figure 400.+100. utilities cost is in the ballpark of Boeings wage guidlines. Thats just about 20% of my wages just renting half a Apartment.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5446&#039;,&#039;Anonymous&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5446&#039;,&#039;Anonymous&#039;,&#039;Thats what Im thinking.. Maybe in about 2 years I will be able to rent one those units for about 900. dollars a month, not the 1 bedroom units.. make that 2 bedrooms.. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;   Thats about what Boeing Wages support... seriously I have been working for Boeing for 6 years and my take home is 1,300. dollars every 2 weeks, Impressive-Not Hardly.&lt;br\/&gt;       &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;  I figure 400.+100. utilities cost is in the ballpark of Boeings wage guidlines. Thats just about 20% of my wages just renting half a Apartment.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats what Im thinking.. Maybe in about 2 years I will be able to rent one those units for about 900. dollars a month, not the 1 bedroom units.. make that 2 bedrooms..</p><p> Thats about what Boeing Wages support&#8230; seriously I have been working for Boeing for 6 years and my take home is 1,300. dollars every 2 weeks, Impressive-Not Hardly.</p><p> I figure 400.+100. utilities cost is in the ballpark of Boeings wage guidlines. Thats just about 20% of my wages just renting half a Apartment.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5445</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;900 to 1,000 units of housing, probably some combination of condominiums and apartments.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nice to hear they&#039;re planning for an eventual oversupply to offset current living costs.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5445&#039;,&#039;dash_point&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5445&#039;,&#039;dash_point&#039;,&#039;&lt;i&gt;900 to 1,000 units of housing, probably some combination of condominiums and apartments.&lt;\/i&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Nice to hear they\&#039;re planning for an eventual oversupply to offset current living costs.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>900 to 1,000 units of housing, probably some combination of condominiums and apartments.</i></p><p>Nice to hear they&#8217;re planning for an eventual oversupply to offset current living costs.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5444</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at Boeing in Renton &#038; Boeing has sold a heck of lot of real estate arround there plant. The funny part is these Condo projects use Boeing Workers at least the ones I know &#8220;could only go as far as getting the tour.</p><p>- Dallas-based Harvest Partners is planning to unveil plans for a shopping-theater complex roughly twice the size of University Village, along with a high-rise residential development that could bring thousands more residents to Renton. Construction could begin as early as the spring.</p><p>- The project is to include a retail-restaurant complex and a movie megaplex totaling about 800,000 square feet â€” essentially the region&#8217;s first major new shopping center in years â€” and 900 to 1,000 units of housing, probably some combination of condominiums and apartments.</p><p>Wow. It is a nice site there on Lake Washington. The property is on the very south end of the lake next to the Boeing 737 production plant:<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5444','Anonymous','I work at Boeing in Renton &amp; Boeing has sold a heck of lot of real estate arround there plant. The funny part is these Condo projects use Boeing Workers at least the ones I know \&quot;could only go as far as getting the tour.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;- Dallas-based Harvest Partners is planning to unveil plans for a shopping-theater complex roughly twice the size of University Village, along with a high-rise residential development that could bring thousands more residents to Renton. Construction could begin as early as the spring.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;- The project is to include a retail-restaurant complex and a movie megaplex totaling about 800,000 square feet &acirc;€” essentially the region\'s first major new shopping center in years &acirc;€” and 900 to 1,000 units of housing, probably some combination of condominiums and apartments.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Wow. It is a nice site there on Lake Washington. The property is on the very south end of the lake next to the Boeing 737 production plant:',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: john_law_the_II</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/#comment-5442</link> <dc:creator>john_law_the_II</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5442</guid> <description>Enron was $90B company, FNM holds like 20-40% of all mortgages in the US?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5442&#039;,&#039;john_law_the_II&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5442&#039;,&#039;john_law_the_II&#039;,&#039;Enron was $90B company, FNM holds like 20-40% of all mortgages in the US?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enron was $90B company, FNM holds like 20-40% of all mortgages in the US?<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5441</guid> <description>I completely agree with John...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, my feeling is that this mess has the potential to be so big and there could be such fallout for the financial markets and politically, that there is going to be a substantial amount of closed door strategizing on how to keep Fannie and Freddie from taking down the markets.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To think that this Franklin Raines character had a cabinet position in the White House and could have been Treasury Sec. just blew my mind.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5441&#039;,&#039;s-crow&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5441&#039;,&#039;s-crow&#039;,&#039;I completely agree with John...&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Yes, my feeling is that this mess has the potential to be so big and there could be such fallout for the financial markets and politically, that there is going to be a substantial amount of closed door strategizing on how to keep Fannie and Freddie from taking down the markets.  &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;To think that this Franklin Raines character had a cabinet position in the White House and could have been Treasury Sec. just blew my mind.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with John&#8230;</p><p>Yes, my feeling is that this mess has the potential to be so big and there could be such fallout for the financial markets and politically, that there is going to be a substantial amount of closed door strategizing on how to keep Fannie and Freddie from taking down the markets.</p><p>To think that this Franklin Raines character had a cabinet position in the White House and could have been Treasury Sec. just blew my mind.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5440</guid> <description>Raines has gotten a pass not because of the color of his skin, but because fannie is too big, has big-time political connections, is one of the largest political donors.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;there is a reason why they haven&#039;t been delisted.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5440&#039;,&#039;john_law_the_II&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5440&#039;,&#039;john_law_the_II&#039;,&#039;Raines has gotten a pass not because of the color of his skin, but because fannie is too big, has big-time political connections, is one of the largest political donors.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;there is a reason why they haven\&#039;t been delisted.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raines has gotten a pass not because of the color of his skin, but because fannie is too big, has big-time political connections, is one of the largest political donors.</p><p>there is a reason why they haven&#8217;t been delisted.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5439</guid> <description>And when lending rules tighten, watch those house prices plummet-&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5439&#039;,&#039;seattle price drop&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5439&#039;,&#039;seattle price drop&#039;,&#039;And when lending rules tighten, watch those house prices plummet-&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when lending rules tighten, watch those house prices plummet-<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5438</guid> <description>Matt- I too am very curious about what happens to these toxic bundled loans and at what point organizations will refuse to buy them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s a blogger in Germany who&#039;s done a bit of posting on thehousingbubbleblog about these MBS&#039;s beginning to be &quot;returned to sender&quot;. Somebody said the secondary buyers have a year in which to return them if they decide they don&#039;t want them afterall.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They&#039;ve just started to trickle back. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s a post about another bunch that are being returned on this site:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;interestrateroundup.blogspot.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So we appear to be in the beginning stages of &quot;thanks but no thanks&quot; when it comes to offing responsibilty for bad loans from original lenders to Greater Fools.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m presuming that once enough people refuse to buy this junk, lending rules will have to tighten.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5438&#039;,&#039;seattle price drop&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5438&#039;,&#039;seattle price drop&#039;,&#039;Matt- I too am very curious about what happens to these toxic bundled loans and at what point organizations will refuse to buy them.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;There\&#039;s a blogger in Germany who\&#039;s done a bit of posting on thehousingbubbleblog about these MBS\&#039;s beginning to be \&quot;returned to sender\&quot;. Somebody said the secondary buyers have a year in which to return them if they decide they don\&#039;t want them afterall.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;They\&#039;ve just started to trickle back. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;There\&#039;s a post about another bunch that are being returned on this site:&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;interestrateroundup.blogspot.com&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;So we appear to be in the beginning stages of \&quot;thanks but no thanks\&quot; when it comes to offing responsibilty for bad loans from original lenders to Greater Fools.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;I\&#039;m presuming that once enough people refuse to buy this junk, lending rules will have to tighten.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt- I too am very curious about what happens to these toxic bundled loans and at what point organizations will refuse to buy them.</p><p>There&#8217;s a blogger in Germany who&#8217;s done a bit of posting on thehousingbubbleblog about these MBS&#8217;s beginning to be &#8220;returned to sender&#8221;. Somebody said the secondary buyers have a year in which to return them if they decide they don&#8217;t want them afterall.</p><p>They&#8217;ve just started to trickle back.</p><p>There&#8217;s a post about another bunch that are being returned on this site:</p><p>interestrateroundup.blogspot.com</p><p>So we appear to be in the beginning stages of &#8220;thanks but no thanks&#8221; when it comes to offing responsibilty for bad loans from original lenders to Greater Fools.</p><p>I&#8217;m presuming that once enough people refuse to buy this junk, lending rules will have to tighten.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5438','seattle price drop','Matt- I too am very curious about what happens to these toxic bundled loans and at what point organizations will refuse to buy them.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;There\'s a blogger in Germany who\'s done a bit of posting on thehousingbubbleblog about these MBS\'s beginning to be \&quot;returned to sender\&quot;. Somebody said the secondary buyers have a year in which to return them if they decide they don\'t want them afterall.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;They\'ve just started to trickle back. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;There\'s a post about another bunch that are being returned on this site:&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;interestrateroundup.blogspot.com&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;So we appear to be in the beginning stages of \&quot;thanks but no thanks\&quot; when it comes to offing responsibilty for bad loans from original lenders to Greater Fools.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;I\'m presuming that once enough people refuse to buy this junk, lending rules will have to tighten.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: seattle price drop</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/#comment-5437</link> <dc:creator>seattle price drop</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:48:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5437</guid> <description>Fanie Mae hasn&#039;t reported their financial statements since what? 2004? But they&#039;re still listed on the NYSE. Right? That&#039;s supposed to be against the law. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Note, they&#039;re talking about delisting Apple because they missed one quarter. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Somebody correct these &quot;facts&quot; if/where wrong.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, the Treasury Dept&#039;s. top official,  on domestic finance matters (Randall Quarles) handed in his resignation 2 days ago.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He&#039;s been the &quot;point person&quot; in pushing the Administration&#039;s efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the past 5 years&quot;. (AP, Friday Aug. 11&#039;06).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good timing on unloading that job eh? Five years is a long time to get absolutely NOTHING done.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5437&#039;,&#039;seattle price drop&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5437&#039;,&#039;seattle price drop&#039;,&#039;Fanie Mae hasn\&#039;t reported their financial statements since what? 2004? But they\&#039;re still listed on the NYSE. Right? That\&#039;s supposed to be against the law. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Note, they\&#039;re talking about delisting Apple because they missed one quarter. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Somebody correct these \&quot;facts\&quot; if\/where wrong.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Also, the Treasury Dept\&#039;s. top official,  on domestic finance matters (Randall Quarles) handed in his resignation 2 days ago.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;He\&#039;s been the \&quot;point person\&quot; in pushing the Administration\&#039;s efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the past 5 years\&quot;. (AP, Friday Aug. 11\&#039;06).&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Good timing on unloading that job eh? Five years is a long time to get absolutely NOTHING done.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanie Mae hasn&#8217;t reported their financial statements since what? 2004? But they&#8217;re still listed on the NYSE. Right? That&#8217;s supposed to be against the law.</p><p>Note, they&#8217;re talking about delisting Apple because they missed one quarter.</p><p>Somebody correct these &#8220;facts&#8221; if/where wrong.</p><p>Also, the Treasury Dept&#8217;s. top official,  on domestic finance matters (Randall Quarles) handed in his resignation 2 days ago.</p><p>He&#8217;s been the &#8220;point person&#8221; in pushing the Administration&#8217;s efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the past 5 years&#8221;. (AP, Friday Aug. 11&#8242;06).</p><p>Good timing on unloading that job eh? Five years is a long time to get absolutely NOTHING done.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5437','seattle price drop','Fanie Mae hasn\'t reported their financial statements since what? 2004? But they\'re still listed on the NYSE. Right? That\'s supposed to be against the law. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Note, they\'re talking about delisting Apple because they missed one quarter. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Somebody correct these \&quot;facts\&quot; if\/where wrong.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Also, the Treasury Dept\'s. top official,  on domestic finance matters (Randall Quarles) handed in his resignation 2 days ago.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;He\'s been the \&quot;point person\&quot; in pushing the Administration\'s efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the past 5 years\&quot;. (AP, Friday Aug. 11\'06).&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Good timing on unloading that job eh? Five years is a long time to get absolutely NOTHING done.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eleua</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/#comment-5436</link> <dc:creator>Eleua</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:36:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5436</guid> <description>How does one lose track of $16B?  Actually, I think FD Raines had $8.9B go 404 on him.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, how do you accomplish that?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No, really?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If your stated goal was to have $9B go missing, how would you do it?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Either FD Raines is the DUMBEST SOB on the face of the earth - I&#039;m talking about a -4 sigma IQ - or he is as corrupt of a man as you will find.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After you lose $9B, do you just get to take a Mulligan and say &quot;Whoops, my bad?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If he loses $9B, just who is in charge of watching him?  WTF have they been doing all this time?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I know two things:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This isn&#039;t the only grenade rolling around on the floor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This grenade will be measured in mega-tons.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5436&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5436&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;How does one lose track of $16B?  Actually, I think FD Raines had $8.9B go 404 on him.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Now, how do you accomplish that?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;No, really?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;If your stated goal was to have $9B go missing, how would you do it?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Either FD Raines is the DUMBEST SOB on the face of the earth - I\&#039;m talking about a -4 sigma IQ - or he is as corrupt of a man as you will find.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;After you lose $9B, do you just get to take a Mulligan and say \&quot;Whoops, my bad?\&quot;&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;If he loses $9B, just who is in charge of watching him?  WTF have they been doing all this time?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;I know two things:&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;This isn\&#039;t the only grenade rolling around on the floor.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;This grenade will be measured in mega-tons.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one lose track of $16B?  Actually, I think FD Raines had $8.9B go 404 on him.</p><p>Now, how do you accomplish that?</p><p>No, really?</p><p>If your stated goal was to have $9B go missing, how would you do it?</p><p>Either FD Raines is the DUMBEST SOB on the face of the earth &#8211; I&#8217;m talking about a -4 sigma IQ &#8211; or he is as corrupt of a man as you will find.</p><p>After you lose $9B, do you just get to take a Mulligan and say &#8220;Whoops, my bad?&#8221;</p><p>If he loses $9B, just who is in charge of watching him?  WTF have they been doing all this time?</p><p>I know two things:</p><p>This isn&#8217;t the only grenade rolling around on the floor.</p><p>This grenade will be measured in mega-tons.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5436','Eleua','How does one lose track of $16B?  Actually, I think FD Raines had $8.9B go 404 on him.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Now, how do you accomplish that?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;No, really?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;If your stated goal was to have $9B go missing, how would you do it?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Either FD Raines is the DUMBEST SOB on the face of the earth - I\'m talking about a -4 sigma IQ - or he is as corrupt of a man as you will find.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;After you lose $9B, do you just get to take a Mulligan and say \&quot;Whoops, my bad?\&quot;&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;If he loses $9B, just who is in charge of watching him?  WTF have they been doing all this time?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;I know two things:&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;This isn\'t the only grenade rolling around on the floor.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;This grenade will be measured in mega-tons.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dash_point</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/#comment-5435</link> <dc:creator>dash_point</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 18:19:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5435</guid> <description>I&#039;m disgusted by the prospect of yet another high-profile corporate scandal. Especially if the gov. makes a move to bail out these d!cks. I&#039;m probably not the only one sick of execs with obscene compensation packages, yet whose contempt for business ethics and oversight will affect the livelihood of so many US citizens--and erode investor&#039;s trust.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sometimes &quot;perp walk&quot; is too good for these guys. Perhaps the French had it right in 1789, when they introduced their &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t304/T304190A.jpg&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Executive Downsizing Plan.&lt;/a&gt; (tongue-in-cheek, of course!)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5435&#039;,&#039;dash_point&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5435&#039;,&#039;dash_point&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m disgusted by the prospect of yet another high-profile corporate scandal. Especially if the gov. makes a move to bail out these d!cks. I\&#039;m probably not the only one sick of execs with obscene compensation packages, yet whose contempt for business ethics and oversight will affect the livelihood of so many US citizens--and erode investor\&#039;s trust.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Sometimes \&quot;perp walk\&quot; is too good for these guys. Perhaps the French had it right in 1789, when they introduced their &lt;a HREF=\&quot;http:\/\/images.encarta.msn.com\/xrefmedia\/sharemed\/targets\/images\/pho\/t304\/T304190A.jpg\&quot; REL=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Executive Downsizing Plan.&lt;\/a&gt; (tongue-in-cheek, of course!)&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disgusted by the prospect of yet another high-profile corporate scandal. Especially if the gov. makes a move to bail out these d!cks. I&#8217;m probably not the only one sick of execs with obscene compensation packages, yet whose contempt for business ethics and oversight will affect the livelihood of so many US citizens&#8211;and erode investor&#8217;s trust.</p><p>Sometimes &#8220;perp walk&#8221; is too good for these guys. Perhaps the French had it right in 1789, when they introduced their <a
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5435','dash_point','I\'m disgusted by the prospect of yet another high-profile corporate scandal. Especially if the gov. makes a move to bail out these d!cks. I\'m probably not the only one sick of execs with obscene compensation packages, yet whose contempt for business ethics and oversight will affect the livelihood of so many US citizens--and erode investor\'s trust.&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;Sometimes \&quot;perp walk\&quot; is too good for these guys. Perhaps the French had it right in 1789, when they introduced their &lt;a HREF=\&quot;http:\/\/images.encarta.msn.com\/xrefmedia\/sharemed\/targets\/images\/pho\/t304\/T304190A.jpg\&quot; REL=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Executive Downsizing Plan.&lt;\/a&gt; (tongue-in-cheek, of course!)',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eleua</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/08/11/us-financial-systemic-risk-fannie-mae-freddie-mac/#comment-5434</link> <dc:creator>Eleua</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:20:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5434</guid> <description>If F.D.Raines had my complexion, he would definitely be getting the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://anon688.googlepages.com/ofsp-poundme.wav&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ken Lay treatment&lt;/a&gt; (well, what Ken Lay was looking at prior to his demise.)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5434&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5434&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;If F.D.Raines had my complexion, he would definitely be getting the &lt;a HREF=\&quot;http:\/\/anon688.googlepages.com\/ofsp-poundme.wav\&quot; REL=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Ken Lay treatment&lt;\/a&gt; (well, what Ken Lay was looking at prior to his demise.)&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If F.D.Raines had my complexion, he would definitely be getting the <a
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=332#comment-5433</guid> <description>Hmmm... where&#039;s Niel Bush when you need him? Call me a conspiracy theorists but this looks like the largest payout of corporate welfare ever seen by the likes of Gawd. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So let me get this straight s-crow, is the following scenario below actually playing out?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For starters ma n&#039; pa computer programmer buy a 500K house in Ballard using a neg-am/i-o sold to them by a dodgy local fly-by night lender, that lender immediately sells it off to some middle-man, for a period of time. The mid-man take their cut and then sells that loan upstream to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac before it becomes totally toxic and reaches critical mass. At which point FM/FM bundle that loan into a mortgage backed security and sell it to pension funds, foriegn banks,etcetera... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What happens when those loans go into their inevitable default? Who owns the property at that point and is left hold the bag? What happens?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s got to be some regulation in their somwhere... maybe I&#039;m missing something...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5433&#039;,&#039;matt&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5433&#039;,&#039;matt&#039;,&#039;Hmmm... where\&#039;s Niel Bush when you need him? Call me a conspiracy theorists but this looks like the largest payout of corporate welfare ever seen by the likes of Gawd. &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;So let me get this straight s-crow, is the following scenario below actually playing out?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;For starters ma n\&#039; pa computer programmer buy a 500K house in Ballard using a neg-am\/i-o sold to them by a dodgy local fly-by night lender, that lender immediately sells it off to some middle-man, for a period of time. The mid-man take their cut and then sells that loan upstream to Fannie Mae\/Freddie Mac before it becomes totally toxic and reaches critical mass. At which point FM\/FM bundle that loan into a mortgage backed security and sell it to pension funds, foriegn banks,etcetera... &lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;What happens when those loans go into their inevitable default? Who owns the property at that point and is left hold the bag? What happens?&lt;br\/&gt;&lt;br\/&gt;There\&#039;s got to be some regulation in their somwhere... maybe I\&#039;m missing something...&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; where&#8217;s Niel Bush when you need him? Call me a conspiracy theorists but this looks like the largest payout of corporate welfare ever seen by the likes of Gawd.</p><p>So let me get this straight s-crow, is the following scenario below actually playing out?</p><p>For starters ma n&#8217; pa computer programmer buy a 500K house in Ballard using a neg-am/i-o sold to them by a dodgy local fly-by night lender, that lender immediately sells it off to some middle-man, for a period of time. The mid-man take their cut and then sells that loan upstream to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac before it becomes totally toxic and reaches critical mass. At which point FM/FM bundle that loan into a mortgage backed security and sell it to pension funds, foriegn banks,etcetera&#8230;</p><p>What happens when those loans go into their inevitable default? Who owns the property at that point and is left hold the bag? What happens?</p><p>There&#8217;s got to be some regulation in their somwhere&#8230; maybe I&#8217;m missing something&#8230;<div
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