Posted by: The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

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  1. OT, but important to those concerned about real estate up here. From Ben’s blog:

    “Reflecting national trends, home sales in Washington dropped in the second quarter, Washington State University reported. The statewide decline in sales of existing homes was 12.5 percent from the second quarter a year ago.”

    “Among Washington’s largest counties, King County sales declined 13.7 percent, Pierce County slipped 10.7 percent, Snohomish County slid 11.8 percent, and Spokane County declined 11.9 percent.”

    Yes folks, you read that right, King county sales DOWN 13.7% It is getting harder and harder to life the pom poms.

    They also mention that only recent buyers will be hurt, I beg to differ.

    Here’s the link:

    http://tinyurl.com/p4k9p

  2. As a matter of fact, I was just officially laid off today from Shurgard resulting from the (queue the Star Wars music when Darth’s on the scene) aquisition by Public Storage. Been laid off twice in the last two years in two different industries. Now I get to rub elbows with the Onyx and WaMu (and soon Weyerhauser) folks who are newly laid off and hitting the pavement shlepping resumes. UW research funding has been slashed and is at an all time low…there are literally dozens of doctors who worry their labs are going to go under.

    Whew! Thank goodness I can snag one of thousands of new Microsoft jobs they’re about to create, right guys? (crickets chirping)

    Guys?

  3. Sorry to hear that emcityjill.

    What type of work did you do at Shurgard?

  4. I worked with the real estate development team. Ha!
    Incidentally…What a great place to work! What a true shame that it was acquired (a hostile takeover in every sense) by such a second rate outfit. The CEO of Public Storage actually said at a meeting with Shurgard managers that he was thrilled with the acquisition because “this business (meaning storage REITs) pukes cash”. Pukes, dukes! I have never been more turned off by a CEO’s address.
    Another heart-wrencher is what they’re going to do with our gorgeous historic building on South Lake Union. When I left for lunch today, Public Storage was literally changing the locks on our front door! Paul Allen for years has been rubbing his hands drooling trying to finagle that building for his pet project. Now I hope he finally gets it, though I’d rather see it go to Fred Hutch than be made into condos. Did you know that it’s one of only a few buildings built by Henry Ford on the west coast? Quite a piece of property!
    Ah well. Life goes on!

  5. Somebody explain to me please how prices can continue to increase if fewer folks are buying? Kind of seems as though sellers are living in la la land.

    A house is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, Meshuganut. Sellers will adjust once they pull their heads out.

  6. Wow emcity. How long have you been there?

    Layoffs can be traumatizing, but you seem to have a good clear head on your shoulders…are you going to take some time off, or go right back into a job hunt?

  7. I’m strafing the market with my resume as we speak. I’ve gotten a few bites here and there, mostly mechanical engineering and construction companies, which I’d prefer to stay away from. I’d love to get into transportation, namely Expeditors Int’l. I’m taking a month to go to Spain, and hope to start a new job in November.

    As for traumatic layoffs, I developed a thick skin from working in biotech. Hee!

    Incidentally, on King5 news this morning I heard a report that average annual bonuses this year are LESS than inflation (I think they quoted average bonus to be 3.5% of salary). What a joy to be employed in Seattle! Hurray!

  8. Have fun in Spain emcity, it is one of my favorite places on the planet.

  9. Emcity…

    Sorry to hear about the layoff. Have you ever considered networking as a source of opportunities?

    Usually when people find out you are looking they bend over backwards trying to help you out. Especially the more they see you around.

    Attending Toastmasters (TM) http://www.toastmasters.org is always a good place to meet quality (and often influencial) people; maybe a good place to start.

    I have quite a bit of experience networking and would be glad to offer help/advice.

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  10. Dukes has it right, every market that has declined significantly has seen an increase in median price while sales start falling off.

    Why? My guess is that both buyers and sellers are riding the last emotional wave before the crash.

  11. “UW research funding has been slashed and is at an all time low…there are literally dozens of doctors who worry their labs are going to go under.”

    That Times article hit really close to home for me — I’m a PhD student at the UW, and I know many faculty members sweating out the next grant. When that happens, the rest of us sweat too — there’s already been an uptick in pressure for graduate students to teach for their money (as opposed to research assistantships, which are the tradition) and that isn’t a good sign.

    If UW research funding continues to fly into the ground, there’s going to be a steaming crater in the local economy. Despite what you may have heard, there isn’t nearly enough biotech in the region to absorb all of the lab techs, post-docs and unemployed faculty that will flow from the UW in a panic.

  12. The basic argument that if jobs are strong the local real estate market will flourish is just half of the equation. The other half is obviously housing prices (affordability). I personally think the most interesting measure to track would be some kind of ratio of (job growth + income growth)/affordability.

  13. “Whew! Thank goodness I can snag one of thousands of new Microsoft jobs they’re about to create, right guys? (crickets chirping)”

    (Reposting this from bubbletracking)

    I work at MSFT, supposedly one of the unstoppable engines of job and income growth fueling the housing market. It’s steady enough, but hardly the money fountain needed to support these runaway prices. Raises here have been mostly sub-inflation (~3%) for years, and people freely admit that homeownership has been far more lucrative than their income.

    Also, the bulletin boards are suddenly crammed full of ads to sell or rent houses and condos. Guess those bidding wars are a thing of the past.

  14. “Dukes has it right, every market that has declined significantly has seen an increase in median price while sales start falling off.”

    Exactly. Thanks to Ben’s blog, we’ve long since seen how that story ends. No different than a stock peaking on declining volume as the last of the bagholders pile on.

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