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> <channel><title>Comments on: Rents Reverting to Mean, Condos Repartmenting</title> <atom:link href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/</link> <description>local real estate news, statistics, and commentary without the sales spin.</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:21:08 -0700</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: on topic</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27045</link> <dc:creator>on topic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:45:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27045</guid> <description>repartmented, or not. your choice:rent from the bank for ~$2500 ($360k asking + tax + HOA?) or from the landlord for $1800http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/rfs/438427043.html&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27045&#039;,&#039;on topic&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27045&#039;,&#039;on topic&#039;,&#039;repartmented, or not. your choice:\r\n\r\nrent from the bank for ~$2500 ($360k asking + tax + HOA?) or from the landlord for $1800\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/seattle.craigslist.org\/see\/rfs\/438427043.html&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>repartmented, or not. your choice:</p><p>rent from the bank for ~$2500 ($360k asking + tax + HOA?) or from the landlord for $1800</p><p><a
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27045','on topic','repartmented, or not. your choice:\r\n\r\nrent from the bank for ~$2500 ($360k asking + tax + HOA?) or from the landlord for $1800\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/seattle.craigslist.org\/see\/rfs\/438427043.html',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: watchingfromtokyo</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27022</link> <dc:creator>watchingfromtokyo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:45:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27022</guid> <description>Can we have a Most Pretentious Condo Name contest?  I nominate Hjarta (Fjarta?).  Ooh, it&#039;s like a cool Euro-celeb with a one-word name, like Bjork.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27022&#039;,&#039;watchingfromtokyo&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27022&#039;,&#039;watchingfromtokyo&#039;,&#039;Can we have a Most Pretentious Condo Name contest?  I nominate Hjarta (Fjarta?).  Ooh, it\&#039;s like a cool Euro-celeb with a one-word name, like Bjork.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we have a Most Pretentious Condo Name contest?  I nominate Hjarta (Fjarta?).  Ooh, it&#8217;s like a cool Euro-celeb with a one-word name, like Bjork.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27018</guid> <description>When I moved out here in 2002, nearly every rental place in the burbs was practically giving away two months of free kisses on your ass to move in. Now not so much. Though my rent only technically went up for the first time this year, concessions and services have been steadily dropping.Repartmenting will no doubt lead to some easing of this trend, no?While some people may be convinced to stay put, as housing costs and SOL rise beyond wage increases, and the housing bust elsewhere in the country begins to settle, people won&#039;t be so determined to stay here, will they? Especially with sales tax rapidly approaching 10%.If you don&#039;t have roots down, aren&#039;t tied to a regional industry, have little else holding you here, and want a house, this is clearly not the place to do it.Sure, former homeowners might move into apartments -- temporarily. But will they really want to stay near their former homes for long? Will they want to try this market again?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27018&#039;,&#039;K&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27018&#039;,&#039;K&#039;,&#039;When I moved out here in 2002, nearly every rental place in the burbs was practically giving away two months of free kisses on your ass to move in. Now not so much. Though my rent only technically went up for the first time this year, concessions and services have been steadily dropping.\r\n\r\nRepartmenting will no doubt lead to some easing of this trend, no?\r\n\r\nWhile some people may be convinced to stay put, as housing costs and SOL rise beyond wage increases, and the housing bust elsewhere in the country begins to settle, people won\&#039;t be so determined to stay here, will they? Especially with sales tax rapidly approaching 10%.\r\n\r\nIf you don\&#039;t have roots down, aren\&#039;t tied to a regional industry, have little else holding you here, and want a house, this is clearly not the place to do it.\r\n\r\nSure, former homeowners might move into apartments -- temporarily. But will they really want to stay near their former homes for long? Will they want to try this market again?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I moved out here in 2002, nearly every rental place in the burbs was practically giving away two months of free kisses on your ass to move in. Now not so much. Though my rent only technically went up for the first time this year, concessions and services have been steadily dropping.</p><p>Repartmenting will no doubt lead to some easing of this trend, no?</p><p>While some people may be convinced to stay put, as housing costs and SOL rise beyond wage increases, and the housing bust elsewhere in the country begins to settle, people won&#8217;t be so determined to stay here, will they? Especially with sales tax rapidly approaching 10%.</p><p>If you don&#8217;t have roots down, aren&#8217;t tied to a regional industry, have little else holding you here, and want a house, this is clearly not the place to do it.</p><p>Sure, former homeowners might move into apartments &#8212; temporarily. But will they really want to stay near their former homes for long? Will they want to try this market again?<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27018','K','When I moved out here in 2002, nearly every rental place in the burbs was practically giving away two months of free kisses on your ass to move in. Now not so much. Though my rent only technically went up for the first time this year, concessions and services have been steadily dropping.\r\n\r\nRepartmenting will no doubt lead to some easing of this trend, no?\r\n\r\nWhile some people may be convinced to stay put, as housing costs and SOL rise beyond wage increases, and the housing bust elsewhere in the country begins to settle, people won\'t be so determined to stay here, will they? Especially with sales tax rapidly approaching 10%.\r\n\r\nIf you don\'t have roots down, aren\'t tied to a regional industry, have little else holding you here, and want a house, this is clearly not the place to do it.\r\n\r\nSure, former homeowners might move into apartments -- temporarily. But will they really want to stay near their former homes for long? Will they want to try this market again?',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: explorer</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27014</link> <dc:creator>explorer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:19:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/325071_housing26.htmlAs a few of the Sound offs in response to that mentioned, read between the lines. Like many of Nickel and dimes&#039; proposals, this is really posturing. There seems little of real substance. Especially when you consider that the requirements are out of reach in proportion to the prices current and near future condo market. In fact it seems like an incentive to keep the prices from going BELOW a certain level.Pay attention to the man behind the curtain.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27014&#039;,&#039;explorer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27014&#039;,&#039;explorer&#039;,&#039;Actually, this was announced\/reported back in July:\r\nhttp:\/\/seattlepi.nwsource.com\/local\/325071_housing26.html\r\n\r\nAs a few of the Sound offs in response to that mentioned, read between the lines. Like many of Nickel and dimes\&#039; proposals, this is really posturing. There seems little of real substance. Especially when you consider that the requirements are out of reach in proportion to the prices current and near future condo market. In fact it seems like an incentive to keep the prices from going BELOW a certain level. \r\n\r\nPay attention to the man behind the curtain.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this was announced/reported back in July:<br
/> <a
href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/325071_housing26.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/325071_housing26.html</a></p><p>As a few of the Sound offs in response to that mentioned, read between the lines. Like many of Nickel and dimes&#8217; proposals, this is really posturing. There seems little of real substance. Especially when you consider that the requirements are out of reach in proportion to the prices current and near future condo market. In fact it seems like an incentive to keep the prices from going BELOW a certain level.</p><p>Pay attention to the man behind the curtain.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27014','explorer','Actually, this was announced\/reported back in July:\r\nhttp:\/\/seattlepi.nwsource.com\/local\/325071_housing26.html\r\n\r\nAs a few of the Sound offs in response to that mentioned, read between the lines. Like many of Nickel and dimes\' proposals, this is really posturing. There seems little of real substance. Especially when you consider that the requirements are out of reach in proportion to the prices current and near future condo market. In fact it seems like an incentive to keep the prices from going BELOW a certain level. \r\n\r\nPay attention to the man behind the curtain.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: softwarengineer</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27005</link> <dc:creator>softwarengineer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:17:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27005</guid> <description>WHO GETS THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOMES?God forbid they&#039;re picked based on which church you belong to or who you voted for.Is it a random lottery to see who gets the Power Ball ticket?I imagine not. Its probably rigged politically.Its also all phony progressive smoke and mirrors to make it look like we&#039;re doing something for the real Seattle Middle Class [average 1.2 worker incomes per household, about $45K/yr], when in reality the top 20% of household incomes [more like 2 incomes per household] in Seattle are basically the only ones that qualify to buy homes/condos in the Seattle area.Our local home buyers aren&#039;t the Seattle Middle Class either, no, not at all.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27005&#039;,&#039;softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27005&#039;,&#039;softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;WHO GETS THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOMES?\r\n\r\nGod forbid they\&#039;re picked based on which church you belong to or who you voted for.\r\n\r\nIs it a random lottery to see who gets the Power Ball ticket?\r\n\r\nI imagine not. Its probably rigged politically. \r\n\r\nIts also all phony progressive smoke and mirrors to make it look like we\&#039;re doing something for the real Seattle Middle Class &#91;average 1.2 worker incomes per household, about $45K\/yr&#93;, when in reality the top 20% of household incomes &#91;more like 2 incomes per household&#93; in Seattle are basically the only ones that qualify to buy homes\/condos in the Seattle area. \r\n\r\nOur local home buyers aren\&#039;t the Seattle Middle Class either, no, not at all.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHO GETS THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOMES?</p><p>God forbid they&#8217;re picked based on which church you belong to or who you voted for.</p><p>Is it a random lottery to see who gets the Power Ball ticket?</p><p>I imagine not. Its probably rigged politically.</p><p>Its also all phony progressive smoke and mirrors to make it look like we&#8217;re doing something for the real Seattle Middle Class [average 1.2 worker incomes per household, about $45K/yr], when in reality the top 20% of household incomes [more like 2 incomes per household] in Seattle are basically the only ones that qualify to buy homes/condos in the Seattle area.</p><p>Our local home buyers aren&#8217;t the Seattle Middle Class either, no, not at all.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('27005','softwarengineer','WHO GETS THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOMES?\r\n\r\nGod forbid they\'re picked based on which church you belong to or who you voted for.\r\n\r\nIs it a random lottery to see who gets the Power Ball ticket?\r\n\r\nI imagine not. Its probably rigged politically. \r\n\r\nIts also all phony progressive smoke and mirrors to make it look like we\'re doing something for the real Seattle Middle Class &amp;#91;average 1.2 worker incomes per household, about $45K\/yr&amp;#93;, when in reality the top 20% of household incomes &amp;#91;more like 2 incomes per household&amp;#93; in Seattle are basically the only ones that qualify to buy homes\/condos in the Seattle area. \r\n\r\nOur local home buyers aren\'t the Seattle Middle Class either, no, not at all.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jon</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27004</link> <dc:creator>jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:09:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-27004</guid> <description>&quot;Did you know it is now against the law if you are not a general contractor to sell or rent a property with in 12 months of doing any work.&quot;They are just spelling out the rules for who has to register as a general contractor. They are saying that someone who is in the business of fixing up houses to sell them within a year is a contractor.Some sweat-equity people may not like that, but with the current inventory levels it doesn&#039;t seem like it will have any affect on the market.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;27004&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;27004&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;\&quot;Did you know it is now against the law if you are not a general contractor to sell or rent a property with in 12 months of doing any work.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThey are just spelling out the rules for who has to register as a general contractor. They are saying that someone who is in the business of fixing up houses to sell them within a year is a contractor.\r\n\r\nSome sweat-equity people may not like that, but with the current inventory levels it doesn\&#039;t seem like it will have any affect on the market.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did you know it is now against the law if you are not a general contractor to sell or rent a property with in 12 months of doing any work.&#8221;</p><p>They are just spelling out the rules for who has to register as a general contractor. They are saying that someone who is in the business of fixing up houses to sell them within a year is a contractor.</p><p>Some sweat-equity people may not like that, but with the current inventory levels it doesn&#8217;t seem like it will have any affect on the market.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26998</guid> <description>Hmmm, the underline worked in the preview but not in the actual comment.&lt;i&gt;but not to a person otherwise covered by the Act&lt;/i&gt;
should have been underlined by me.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26998&#039;,&#039;uptown&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26998&#039;,&#039;uptown&#039;,&#039;Hmmm, the underline worked in the preview but not in the actual comment.\r\n\r\n&lt;i&gt;but not to a person otherwise covered by the Act&lt;\/i&gt;\r\nshould have been underlined by me.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, the underline worked in the preview but not in the actual comment.</p><p><i>but not to a person otherwise covered by the Act</i><br
/> should have been underlined by me.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26997</guid> <description>re: shb1843read the Exemption part -
&lt;i&gt;any person working on his or her own property, whether occupied by him or her or not, and any person working on his or her personal residence, whether owned by him or her or not, but not to a person otherwise covered by the Act who constructs an improvement on his or her own property with the intention and the purpose of selling the improved property;&lt;/i&gt;The purpose of the Bill is to regulate contractors, and this seems to make sure that contractors don&#039;t have a loophole too avoid the regulations.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26997&#039;,&#039;uptown&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26997&#039;,&#039;uptown&#039;,&#039;re: shb1843\r\n\r\nread the Exemption part -\r\n&lt;i&gt;any person working on his or her own property, whether occupied by him or her or not, and any person working on his or her personal residence, whether owned by him or her or not, but not to a person otherwise covered by the Act who constructs an improvement on his or her own property with the intention and the purpose of selling the improved property;&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nThe purpose of the Bill is to regulate contractors, and this seems to make sure that contractors don\&#039;t have a loophole too avoid the regulations.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: shb1843</p><p>read the Exemption part -<br
/> <i>any person working on his or her own property, whether occupied by him or her or not, and any person working on his or her personal residence, whether owned by him or her or not, but not to a person otherwise covered by the Act who constructs an improvement on his or her own property with the intention and the purpose of selling the improved property;</i></p><p>The purpose of the Bill is to regulate contractors, and this seems to make sure that contractors don&#8217;t have a loophole too avoid the regulations.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26997','uptown','re: shb1843\r\n\r\nread the Exemption part -\r\n&lt;i&gt;any person working on his or her own property, whether occupied by him or her or not, and any person working on his or her personal residence, whether owned by him or her or not, but not to a person otherwise covered by the Act who constructs an improvement on his or her own property with the intention and the purpose of selling the improved property;&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nThe purpose of the Bill is to regulate contractors, and this seems to make sure that contractors don\'t have a loophole too avoid the regulations.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob R</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26994</link> <dc:creator>Bob R</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:01:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26994</guid> <description>Sorry off topic. i was thinking your subject was how worthless real estate owner ship is.
Here is link to law:http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2007-08/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Law%202007/1843-S.SL.pdf&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26994&#039;,&#039;Bob R&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26994&#039;,&#039;Bob R&#039;,&#039;Sorry off topic. i was thinking your subject was how worthless real estate owner ship is.\r\nHere is link to law:\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.leg.wa.gov\/pub\/billinfo\/2007-08\/Pdf\/Bills\/Session%20Law%202007\/1843-S.SL.pdf&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry off topic. i was thinking your subject was how worthless real estate owner ship is.<br
/> Here is link to law:</p><p><a
href="http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2007-08/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Law%202007/1843-S.SL.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2007-08/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Law%202007/1843-S.SL.pdf</a><div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26994','Bob R','Sorry off topic. i was thinking your subject was how worthless real estate owner ship is.\r\nHere is link to law:\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.leg.wa.gov\/pub\/billinfo\/2007-08\/Pdf\/Bills\/Session%20Law%202007\/1843-S.SL.pdf',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: B&#38;W NIkes</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26992</link> <dc:creator>B&#38;W NIkes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:46:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26992</guid> <description>On Sept. 18 at a Housing Our Future lecture at the Westin, Ron Terwilliger  - a &quot;recognized national expert in workforce housing&quot; &amp; CEO of Trammell Crow Residential pointed out that there is no current market incentive to build workforce housing in this city for those who make less than 150 percent of median income. How many days later did they get the incentive from the City to continue building luxury residences as long as they throw in a few dozen Workforce Housing priced residences? Workforce Housing - a new euphemism for something other than affordable housing.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26992&#039;,&#039;B&amp;W NIkes&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26992&#039;,&#039;B&amp;W NIkes&#039;,&#039;On Sept. 18 at a Housing Our Future lecture at the Westin, Ron Terwilliger  - a \&quot;recognized national expert in workforce housing\&quot; &amp; CEO of Trammell Crow Residential pointed out that there is no current market incentive to build workforce housing in this city for those who make less than 150 percent of median income. How many days later did they get the incentive from the City to continue building luxury residences as long as they throw in a few dozen Workforce Housing priced residences? Workforce Housing - a new euphemism for something other than affordable housing.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Sept. 18 at a Housing Our Future lecture at the Westin, Ron Terwilliger  &#8211; a &#8220;recognized national expert in workforce housing&#8221; &amp; CEO of Trammell Crow Residential pointed out that there is no current market incentive to build workforce housing in this city for those who make less than 150 percent of median income. How many days later did they get the incentive from the City to continue building luxury residences as long as they throw in a few dozen Workforce Housing priced residences? Workforce Housing &#8211; a new euphemism for something other than affordable housing.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26992','B&amp;amp;W NIkes','On Sept. 18 at a Housing Our Future lecture at the Westin, Ron Terwilliger  - a \&quot;recognized national expert in workforce housing\&quot; &amp;amp; CEO of Trammell Crow Residential pointed out that there is no current market incentive to build workforce housing in this city for those who make less than 150 percent of median income. How many days later did they get the incentive from the City to continue building luxury residences as long as they throw in a few dozen Workforce Housing priced residences? Workforce Housing - a new euphemism for something other than affordable housing.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: off topic</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26990</link> <dc:creator>off topic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26990</guid> <description>here is the bill digest possibly worth it&#039;s own post:http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2007-08/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/House%20Final/1843-S.FBR.pdf&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26990&#039;,&#039;off topic&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26990&#039;,&#039;off topic&#039;,&#039;here is the bill digest possibly worth it\&#039;s own post:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.leg.wa.gov\/pub\/billinfo\/2007-08\/Pdf\/Bill%20Reports\/House%20Final\/1843-S.FBR.pdf&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is the bill digest possibly worth it&#8217;s own post:</p><p><a
href="http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2007-08/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/House%20Final/1843-S.FBR.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2007-08/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/House%20Final/1843-S.FBR.pdf</a><div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26990','off topic','here is the bill digest possibly worth it\'s own post:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.leg.wa.gov\/pub\/billinfo\/2007-08\/Pdf\/Bill%20Reports\/House%20Final\/1843-S.FBR.pdf',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: off topic</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26989</link> <dc:creator>off topic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:08:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26989</guid> <description>so, &quot;do-it-yourself flipping&quot; and &quot;sweat equity&quot; work done for the sake of increasing the value of a property with the intent to sell is illegal.it&#039;ll be easy to prove that work has been done poorly, by the homeowners, and without a certified contractor, but it is only an infraction if it is legally provable that the work was done with intent to sell.good luck with that.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26989&#039;,&#039;off topic&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26989&#039;,&#039;off topic&#039;,&#039;so, \&quot;do-it-yourself flipping\&quot; and \&quot;sweat equity\&quot; work done for the sake of increasing the value of a property with the intent to sell is illegal.\r\n\r\nit\&#039;ll be easy to prove that work has been done poorly, by the homeowners, and without a certified contractor, but it is only an infraction if it is legally provable that the work was done with intent to sell.\r\n\r\ngood luck with that.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, &#8220;do-it-yourself flipping&#8221; and &#8220;sweat equity&#8221; work done for the sake of increasing the value of a property with the intent to sell is illegal.</p><p>it&#8217;ll be easy to prove that work has been done poorly, by the homeowners, and without a certified contractor, but it is only an infraction if it is legally provable that the work was done with intent to sell.</p><p>good luck with that.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26989','off topic','so, \&quot;do-it-yourself flipping\&quot; and \&quot;sweat equity\&quot; work done for the sake of increasing the value of a property with the intent to sell is illegal.\r\n\r\nit\'ll be easy to prove that work has been done poorly, by the homeowners, and without a certified contractor, but it is only an infraction if it is legally provable that the work was done with intent to sell.\r\n\r\ngood luck with that.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CCG</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26987</link> <dc:creator>CCG</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26987</guid> <description>&quot;So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?&quot;Because that would require them to use the words &quot;housing markets&quot; and &quot;soften&quot; in the same sentence. On the other hand they&#039;ve predicted 27 of my last 2 rent increases so at least they&#039;ve got that part covered.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26987&#039;,&#039;CCG&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26987&#039;,&#039;CCG&#039;,&#039;\&quot;So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?\&quot;\r\n\r\nBecause that would require them to use the words \&quot;housing markets\&quot; and \&quot;soften\&quot; in the same sentence. On the other hand they\&#039;ve predicted 27 of my last 2 rent increases so at least they\&#039;ve got that part covered.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?&#8221;</p><p>Because that would require them to use the words &#8220;housing markets&#8221; and &#8220;soften&#8221; in the same sentence. On the other hand they&#8217;ve predicted 27 of my last 2 rent increases so at least they&#8217;ve got that part covered.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26987','CCG','\&quot;So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?\&quot;\r\n\r\nBecause that would require them to use the words \&quot;housing markets\&quot; and \&quot;soften\&quot; in the same sentence. On the other hand they\'ve predicted 27 of my last 2 rent increases so at least they\'ve got that part covered.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob R</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26984</link> <dc:creator>Bob R</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:14:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26984</guid> <description>Did you know it is now against the law if you are not a general contractor to sell or rent a property with in 12 months of doing any work. Effective July 22 2007 SHB 1843 turns property owners into criminals guilty of a gross misdemeanor. I went to a local real estate office which manages rental properties and asked what they and their clients have done in order to comply with SHB 1843. They just found out about the law last week from a city employee and are awaiting a response from legal council as how to proceed with business. Apparently the real estate community missed this one. I would think the Washington Association of Realtors would have fought tooth and nail against this law. In my opinion this has the potential to devalue property across the state all by it self with out any other market influence. HUD has a program for fixer property 203k which is now useless in this state unless the buyer is a general contractor and wants to live in the property. The law requires a license to contract out work. The renters will have less to chose from if I am thinking correctly because the white collar people do not want to be a general contractor to invest in property. The small time investor will not want to be a general contractor to buy and resell or rent that property the bank gets back at foreclosure.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26984&#039;,&#039;Bob R&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26984&#039;,&#039;Bob R&#039;,&#039;Did you know it is now against the law if you are not a general contractor to sell or rent a property with in 12 months of doing any work. Effective July 22 2007 SHB 1843 turns property owners into criminals guilty of a gross misdemeanor. I went to a local real estate office which manages rental properties and asked what they and their clients have done in order to comply with SHB 1843. They just found out about the law last week from a city employee and are awaiting a response from legal council as how to proceed with business. Apparently the real estate community missed this one. I would think the Washington Association of Realtors would have fought tooth and nail against this law. In my opinion this has the potential to devalue property across the state all by it self with out any other market influence. HUD has a program for fixer property 203k which is now useless in this state unless the buyer is a general contractor and wants to live in the property. The law requires a license to contract out work. The renters will have less to chose from if I am thinking correctly because the white collar people do not want to be a general contractor to invest in property. The small time investor will not want to be a general contractor to buy and resell or rent that property the bank gets back at foreclosure.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know it is now against the law if you are not a general contractor to sell or rent a property with in 12 months of doing any work. Effective July 22 2007 SHB 1843 turns property owners into criminals guilty of a gross misdemeanor. I went to a local real estate office which manages rental properties and asked what they and their clients have done in order to comply with SHB 1843. They just found out about the law last week from a city employee and are awaiting a response from legal council as how to proceed with business. Apparently the real estate community missed this one. I would think the Washington Association of Realtors would have fought tooth and nail against this law. In my opinion this has the potential to devalue property across the state all by it self with out any other market influence. HUD has a program for fixer property 203k which is now useless in this state unless the buyer is a general contractor and wants to live in the property. The law requires a license to contract out work. The renters will have less to chose from if I am thinking correctly because the white collar people do not want to be a general contractor to invest in property. The small time investor will not want to be a general contractor to buy and resell or rent that property the bank gets back at foreclosure.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26984','Bob R','Did you know it is now against the law if you are not a general contractor to sell or rent a property with in 12 months of doing any work. Effective July 22 2007 SHB 1843 turns property owners into criminals guilty of a gross misdemeanor. I went to a local real estate office which manages rental properties and asked what they and their clients have done in order to comply with SHB 1843. They just found out about the law last week from a city employee and are awaiting a response from legal council as how to proceed with business. Apparently the real estate community missed this one. I would think the Washington Association of Realtors would have fought tooth and nail against this law. In my opinion this has the potential to devalue property across the state all by it self with out any other market influence. HUD has a program for fixer property 203k which is now useless in this state unless the buyer is a general contractor and wants to live in the property. The law requires a license to contract out work. The renters will have less to chose from if I am thinking correctly because the white collar people do not want to be a general contractor to invest in property. The small time investor will not want to be a general contractor to buy and resell or rent that property the bank gets back at foreclosure.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joel</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26983</link> <dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:14:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26983</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not sure where you got from my post where people were leavingâ€¦</p></blockquote><p>Because your post never said <i>net</i> increase.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26983','Joel','&lt;blockquote&gt;Not sure where you got from my post where people were leaving&acirc;€&brvbar;&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nBecause your post never said &lt;i&gt;net&lt;\/i&gt; increase.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: finance</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26980</link> <dc:creator>finance</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:18:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26980</guid> <description>greenthum - Washington state is having a net increase of people moving to the state for quite a while now.  Over the past several years there has been approx 50,000 net increase in population in the Seattle region each year.  Not sure where you got from my post where people were leaving...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26980&#039;,&#039;finance&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26980&#039;,&#039;finance&#039;,&#039;greenthum - Washington state is having a net increase of people moving to the state for quite a while now.  Over the past several years there has been approx 50,000 net increase in population in the Seattle region each year.  Not sure where you got from my post where people were leaving...&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greenthum &#8211; Washington state is having a net increase of people moving to the state for quite a while now.  Over the past several years there has been approx 50,000 net increase in population in the Seattle region each year.  Not sure where you got from my post where people were leaving&#8230;<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26980','finance','greenthum - Washington state is having a net increase of people moving to the state for quite a while now.  Over the past several years there has been approx 50,000 net increase in population in the Seattle region each year.  Not sure where you got from my post where people were leaving...',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Buceri</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26972</link> <dc:creator>Buceri</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:07:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26972</guid> <description>How unfortunate!! As deejayoh wrote, Aspira is &quot;Sucks&quot; in Spanish. I hope they don&#039;t rename it &quot;Colapso&quot;.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26972&#039;,&#039;Buceri&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26972&#039;,&#039;Buceri&#039;,&#039;How unfortunate!! As deejayoh wrote, Aspira is \&quot;Sucks\&quot; in Spanish. I hope they don\&#039;t rename it \&quot;Colapso\&quot;.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How unfortunate!! As deejayoh wrote, Aspira is &#8220;Sucks&#8221; in Spanish. I hope they don&#8217;t rename it &#8220;Colapso&#8221;.<div
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You are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary. 50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Before you start flinging stones through the window of your fancy glass house, you should probably learn the definition of mean and median.  It&#039;s just a damn tragedy that someone in an MBA program (who claims himself a finance &quot;guru&quot;, no less)  would define the mean as &quot;higher than&quot; the median.Oh...by the way?  Those numbers aren&#039;t the mean &lt;b&gt;or &lt;/b&gt; the median household income -- not according to the press release, anyway.  They&#039;re just the politically-expedient cutoff values for Captain Condo&#039;s new &quot;affordable&quot; housing initiative.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26969&#039;,&#039;MisterBubble&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26969&#039;,&#039;MisterBubble&#039;,&#039;&lt;blockquote&gt;\r\nYou are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary. 50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!\r\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nBefore you start flinging stones through the window of your fancy glass house, you should probably learn the definition of mean and median.  It\&#039;s just a damn tragedy that someone in an MBA program (who claims himself a finance \&quot;guru\&quot;, no less)  would define the mean as \&quot;higher than\&quot; the median.\r\n\r\nOh...by the way?  Those numbers aren\&#039;t the mean &lt;b&gt;or &lt;\/b&gt; the median household income -- not according to the press release, anyway.  They\&#039;re just the politically-expedient cutoff values for Captain Condo\&#039;s new \&quot;affordable\&quot; housing initiative.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> You are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary. 50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!</p></blockquote><p>Before you start flinging stones through the window of your fancy glass house, you should probably learn the definition of mean and median.  It&#8217;s just a &quot;golly&quot; tragedy that someone in an MBA program (who claims himself a finance &#8220;guru&#8221;, no less)  would define the mean as &#8220;higher than&#8221; the median.</p><p>Oh&#8230;by the way?  Those numbers aren&#8217;t the mean <b>or </b> the median household income &#8212; not according to the press release, anyway.  They&#8217;re just the politically-expedient cutoff values for Captain Condo&#8217;s new &#8220;affordable&#8221; housing initiative.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26969','MisterBubble','&lt;blockquote&gt;\r\nYou are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary. 50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!\r\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nBefore you start flinging stones through the window of your fancy glass house, you should probably learn the definition of mean and median.  It\'s just a &quot;golly&quot; tragedy that someone in an MBA program (who claims himself a finance \&quot;guru\&quot;, no less)  would define the mean as \&quot;higher than\&quot; the median.\r\n\r\nOh...by the way?  Those numbers aren\'t the mean &lt;b&gt;or &lt;\/b&gt; the median household income -- not according to the press release, anyway.  They\'re just the politically-expedient cutoff values for Captain Condo\'s new \&quot;affordable\&quot; housing initiative.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: greenthum</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26968</link> <dc:creator>greenthum</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:16:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26968</guid> <description>finance:How many people are leaving the state annually?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26968&#039;,&#039;greenthum&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26968&#039;,&#039;greenthum&#039;,&#039;finance:\r\n\r\nHow many people are leaving the state annually?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finance:</p><p>How many people are leaving the state annually?<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26963</guid> <description>Jon - You are correct in your assessment that overall property tax rates would increase on the other 75% apt owners.  Providing lower rent programs is good, but anyone thinking that it is free for society is wrong.  It does cause property taxes to rise quicker for everyone else, which is then passed on to renters (in the long run).rose-colored-coolaid  - You are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary.  50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!My guesstimate is that rents will continue to rise until there is a recession or the economy in this region significantly slows.  Thus, my estimation is of approx 10% increase in rent for 2008 and 7.5% for 2009.  The supply of new condos/apts will reduce the rate of increase, however there are still 60,000 people moving to the state annually...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26963&#039;,&#039;finance&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26963&#039;,&#039;finance&#039;,&#039;Jon - You are correct in your assessment that overall property tax rates would increase on the other 75% apt owners.  Providing lower rent programs is good, but anyone thinking that it is free for society is wrong.  It does cause property taxes to rise quicker for everyone else, which is then passed on to renters (in the long run).\r\n\r\nrose-colored-coolaid  - You are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary.  50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!\r\n\r\nMy guesstimate is that rents will continue to rise until there is a recession or the economy in this region significantly slows.  Thus, my estimation is of approx 10% increase in rent for 2008 and 7.5% for 2009.  The supply of new condos\/apts will reduce the rate of increase, however there are still 60,000 people moving to the state annually...&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; You are correct in your assessment that overall property tax rates would increase on the other 75% apt owners.  Providing lower rent programs is good, but anyone thinking that it is free for society is wrong.  It does cause property taxes to rise quicker for everyone else, which is then passed on to renters (in the long run).</p><p>rose-colored-coolaid  &#8211; You are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary.  50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!</p><p>My guesstimate is that rents will continue to rise until there is a recession or the economy in this region significantly slows.  Thus, my estimation is of approx 10% increase in rent for 2008 and 7.5% for 2009.  The supply of new condos/apts will reduce the rate of increase, however there are still 60,000 people moving to the state annually&#8230;<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26963','finance','Jon - You are correct in your assessment that overall property tax rates would increase on the other 75% apt owners.  Providing lower rent programs is good, but anyone thinking that it is free for society is wrong.  It does cause property taxes to rise quicker for everyone else, which is then passed on to renters (in the long run).\r\n\r\nrose-colored-coolaid  - You are right that more than 20-25% make less than the numbers, as they are the median or avg (which is higher than the median) salary.  50% make more than 49,000 or $62,300 and 50% less, doh!\r\n\r\nMy guesstimate is that rents will continue to rise until there is a recession or the economy in this region significantly slows.  Thus, my estimation is of approx 10% increase in rent for 2008 and 7.5% for 2009.  The supply of new condos\/apts will reduce the rate of increase, however there are still 60,000 people moving to the state annually...',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jon</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26961</link> <dc:creator>jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:30:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26961</guid> <description>&quot;Alan, I think it might actually lower rents&quot;The tax subsidy will raise the property taxes on everyone else in order to reduce the rent for the 25% of those buildings. That extra cost will be passed on to all the other renters across the city, but it will be blamed on evil landlords.If the benefits were restricted to city employees I would be fine with it, since they have to be paid competitively somehow, but if they open it up to anyone who can claim a low income just long enough to qualify, then it&#039;s just another tax scam.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26961&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26961&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;\&quot;Alan, I think it might actually lower rents\&quot;\r\n\r\nThe tax subsidy will raise the property taxes on everyone else in order to reduce the rent for the 25% of those buildings. That extra cost will be passed on to all the other renters across the city, but it will be blamed on evil landlords. \r\n\r\nIf the benefits were restricted to city employees I would be fine with it, since they have to be paid competitively somehow, but if they open it up to anyone who can claim a low income just long enough to qualify, then it\&#039;s just another tax scam.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Alan, I think it might actually lower rents&#8221;</p><p>The tax subsidy will raise the property taxes on everyone else in order to reduce the rent for the 25% of those buildings. That extra cost will be passed on to all the other renters across the city, but it will be blamed on evil landlords.</p><p>If the benefits were restricted to city employees I would be fine with it, since they have to be paid competitively somehow, but if they open it up to anyone who can claim a low income just long enough to qualify, then it&#8217;s just another tax scam.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26961','jon','\&quot;Alan, I think it might actually lower rents\&quot;\r\n\r\nThe tax subsidy will raise the property taxes on everyone else in order to reduce the rent for the 25% of those buildings. That extra cost will be passed on to all the other renters across the city, but it will be blamed on evil landlords. \r\n\r\nIf the benefits were restricted to city employees I would be fine with it, since they have to be paid competitively somehow, but if they open it up to anyone who can claim a low income just long enough to qualify, then it\'s just another tax scam.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rose-colored-coolaid</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26959</link> <dc:creator>rose-colored-coolaid</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:38:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26959</guid> <description>Alan, I think it might actually lower rents.  More than 20-25% of the population earns less than those numbers.  An even higher percentage earn less than that if you only consider renters.So those lower income groups will do very well on this deal (though they will do poorly overall).  It might create more total apartments, and 75% of those units will be earmarked for everyone.Of course, I haven&#039;t looked into this at all, so let me know if I&#039;m off the deep end.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26959&#039;,&#039;rose-colored-coolaid&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26959&#039;,&#039;rose-colored-coolaid&#039;,&#039;Alan, I think it might actually lower rents.  More than 20-25% of the population earns less than those numbers.  An even higher percentage earn less than that if you only consider renters.\r\n\r\nSo those lower income groups will do very well on this deal (though they will do poorly overall).  It might create more total apartments, and 75% of those units will be earmarked for everyone.\r\n\r\nOf course, I haven\&#039;t looked into this at all, so let me know if I\&#039;m off the deep end.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, I think it might actually lower rents.  More than 20-25% of the population earns less than those numbers.  An even higher percentage earn less than that if you only consider renters.</p><p>So those lower income groups will do very well on this deal (though they will do poorly overall).  It might create more total apartments, and 75% of those units will be earmarked for everyone.</p><p>Of course, I haven&#8217;t looked into this at all, so let me know if I&#8217;m off the deep end.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26959','rose-colored-coolaid','Alan, I think it might actually lower rents.  More than 20-25% of the population earns less than those numbers.  An even higher percentage earn less than that if you only consider renters.\r\n\r\nSo those lower income groups will do very well on this deal (though they will do poorly overall).  It might create more total apartments, and 75% of those units will be earmarked for everyone.\r\n\r\nOf course, I haven\'t looked into this at all, so let me know if I\'m off the deep end.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: christiangustafson</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26956</link> <dc:creator>christiangustafson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:15:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26956</guid> <description>Condos sell in Greenwood?  It&#039;s for-sale sign central on Greenwood north of 105th.  On weekends you will even see sign-spinners up in this neighborhood.  Some of them are even waterfront luxury condos on wonderful, elite Bitter Lake.  I bet there are subprime time-bombs everywhere up here.Here is my current heroine, lovely Edith of Ballard!
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/333917_macefield02.htmlI only pray that Edith is not preyed on by a local &lt;i&gt;Kelo vs City of New London&lt;/i&gt; abuse of eminent domain.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26956&#039;,&#039;christiangustafson&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26956&#039;,&#039;christiangustafson&#039;,&#039;Condos sell in Greenwood?  It\&#039;s for-sale sign central on Greenwood north of 105th.  On weekends you will even see sign-spinners up in this neighborhood.  Some of them are even waterfront luxury condos on wonderful, elite Bitter Lake.  I bet there are subprime time-bombs everywhere up here.\r\n\r\nHere is my current heroine, lovely Edith of Ballard!\r\nhttp:\/\/seattlepi.nwsource.com\/local\/333917_macefield02.html\r\n\r\nI only pray that Edith is not preyed on by a local &lt;i&gt;Kelo vs City of New London&lt;\/i&gt; abuse of eminent domain.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condos sell in Greenwood?  It&#8217;s for-sale sign central on Greenwood north of 105th.  On weekends you will even see sign-spinners up in this neighborhood.  Some of them are even waterfront luxury condos on wonderful, elite Bitter Lake.  I bet there are subprime time-bombs everywhere up here.</p><p>Here is my current heroine, lovely Edith of Ballard!<br
/> <a
href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/333917_macefield02.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/333917_macefield02.html</a></p><p>I only pray that Edith is not preyed on by a local <i>Kelo vs City of New London</i> abuse of eminent domain.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26956','christiangustafson','Condos sell in Greenwood?  It\'s for-sale sign central on Greenwood north of 105th.  On weekends you will even see sign-spinners up in this neighborhood.  Some of them are even waterfront luxury condos on wonderful, elite Bitter Lake.  I bet there are subprime time-bombs everywhere up here.\r\n\r\nHere is my current heroine, lovely Edith of Ballard!\r\nhttp:\/\/seattlepi.nwsource.com\/local\/333917_macefield02.html\r\n\r\nI only pray that Edith is not preyed on by a local &lt;i&gt;Kelo vs City of New London&lt;\/i&gt; abuse of eminent domain.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: deejayoh</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26955</link> <dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:38:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26955</guid> <description>Tim - close the italics on your post!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26955&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26955&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;Tim - close the italics on your post!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; close the italics on your post!<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26954</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Under the mayorâ€™s plan, which he transmitted to City Council today, the program will provide a 12-year tax exemption on the residential portion of any new apartment building in which 20-25 percent of the units are set aside for individuals who earn up to $49,000 or families who earn up to $62,300.</em></p><p>That is only creating housing for people who make less than the median. The effect will be to drive prices up for people above the median. If you are slightly above the median you get screwed. What it also does is create an incentive for people to work less.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26954','Alan','&lt;em&gt;Under the mayor&acirc;€™s plan, which he transmitted to City Council today, the program will provide a 12-year tax exemption on the residential portion of any new apartment building in which 20-25 percent of the units are set aside for individuals who earn up to $49,000 or families who earn up to $62,300.&lt;\/em&gt;\r\n\r\nThat is only creating housing for people who make less than the median. The effect will be to drive prices up for people above the median. If you are slightly above the median you get screwed. What it also does is create an incentive for people to work less.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: george</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26952</link> <dc:creator>george</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:20:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26952</guid> <description>So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?
At this rate when the market drops, the Seattle Times will have to start quoting Glengarry Glen Ross:  &#039;The leads are weak.&#039;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26952&#039;,&#039;george&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26952&#039;,&#039;george&#039;,&#039;So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?  \r\n  \r\nAt this rate when the market drops, the Seattle Times will have to start quoting Glengarry Glen Ross:  \&#039;The leads are weak.\&#039;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?</p><p>At this rate when the market drops, the Seattle Times will have to start quoting Glengarry Glen Ross:  &#8216;The leads are weak.&#8217;<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26952','george','So why is neither Seattle paper pointing out that rental rates often go up when housing markets start to soften?  \r\n  \r\nAt this rate when the market drops, the Seattle Times will have to start quoting Glengarry Glen Ross:  \'The leads are weak.\'',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Garth</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26951</link> <dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:53:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26951</guid> <description>Mayor Nickels just gave developers a 12 year tax free reason to build apartmentshttp://www.seattle.gov/news/detail.asp?ID=7555&amp;Dept=40&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26951&#039;,&#039;Garth&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26951&#039;,&#039;Garth&#039;,&#039;Mayor Nickels just gave developers a 12 year tax free reason to build apartments\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.seattle.gov\/news\/detail.asp?ID=7555&amp;Dept=40&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayor Nickels just gave developers a 12 year tax free reason to build apartments</p><p><a
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26951','Garth','Mayor Nickels just gave developers a 12 year tax free reason to build apartments\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.seattle.gov\/news\/detail.asp?ID=7555&amp;amp;Dept=40',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: deejayoh</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26947</link> <dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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href="http://www.kellercms.com/terryave.htm" rel="nofollow">Look, it&#8217;s a Condo!</a></p><p><a
href="http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terryave1wn9.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a></p><p><a>Nope, it&#8217;s an apartment building</a><br
/> Urban Partners, in joint venture with Real Estate Capital Partners and Oâ€™Conner Capital Partners, acquired a prime high-rise residential development site in the Denny Triangle district of downtown Seattle.<br
/> The program calls for an elegantly detailed, yet reasonably priced, rental apartment program, targeting prospective tenants who work in the financial district and fast-growing South Lake Union sections of Seattle.<br
/> The building features a full amenity package and luxury apartment services in one of the strongest rental markets in the United States.<br
/> The Keller CMS Seattle office has managed entitlements, and will continue to manage design and construction<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26947','deejayoh','&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.kellercms.com\/terryave.htm\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Look, it\'s a Condo!&lt;\/a&gt;\r\n\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/img441.imageshack.us\/my.php?image=terryave1wn9.jpg\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;&lt;\/a&gt;\r\n\r\n&lt;a&gt;Nope, it\'s an apartment building&lt;\/a&gt;\r\nUrban Partners, in joint venture with Real Estate Capital Partners and O&acirc;€™Conner Capital Partners, acquired a prime high-rise residential development site in the Denny Triangle district of downtown Seattle. \r\nThe program calls for an elegantly detailed, yet reasonably priced, rental apartment program, targeting prospective tenants who work in the financial district and fast-growing South Lake Union sections of Seattle. \r\nThe building features a full amenity package and luxury apartment services in one of the strongest rental markets in the United States. \r\nThe Keller CMS Seattle office has managed entitlements, and will continue to manage design and construction',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: deejayoh</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26946</link> <dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:40:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26946</guid> <description>Not the first.  Check out &quot;Aspira&quot;, a 37-story condo that was planned for the Denny Triangle. Apparently &quot;Aspira&quot; means &quot;to suck&quot; in Spanish, because it has been renamed the &quot;Terry Avenue Apartments&quot;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26946&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26946&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;Not the first.  Check out \&quot;Aspira\&quot;, a 37-story condo that was planned for the Denny Triangle. Apparently \&quot;Aspira\&quot; means \&quot;to suck\&quot; in Spanish, because it has been renamed the \&quot;Terry Avenue Apartments\&quot;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the first.  Check out &#8220;Aspira&#8221;, a 37-story condo that was planned for the Denny Triangle. Apparently &#8220;Aspira&#8221; means &#8220;to suck&#8221; in Spanish, because it has been renamed the &#8220;Terry Avenue Apartments&#8221;<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26946','deejayoh','Not the first.  Check out \&quot;Aspira\&quot;, a 37-story condo that was planned for the Denny Triangle. Apparently \&quot;Aspira\&quot; means \&quot;to suck\&quot; in Spanish, because it has been renamed the \&quot;Terry Avenue Apartments\&quot;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: B&#38;W NIkes</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26945</link> <dc:creator>B&#38;W NIkes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:38:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26945</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;therefore while they can certainly rise more slowly than incomes, they canâ€™t rapidly rise out of control like home prices have.</i><br
/> I don&#8217;t understand this. They have in the past here and elsewhere. Tenants just have to pay more per sq. foot and have less disposable income for their charming &#8220;urban lifestyles.&#8221; I recall 1997-2000 as a stupid but real time example.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26945','B&amp;amp;W NIkes','&lt;i&gt;...therefore while they can certainly rise more slowly than incomes, they can&acirc;€™t rapidly rise out of control like home prices have.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\nI don\'t understand this. They have in the past here and elsewhere. Tenants just have to pay more per sq. foot and have less disposable income for their charming \&quot;urban lifestyles.\&quot; I recall 1997-2000 as a stupid but real time example.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: declinest</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26943</link> <dc:creator>declinest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:09:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/02/rents-reverting-to-mean-condos-repartmenting/#comment-26943</guid> <description>but seattle is special!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;26943&#039;,&#039;declinest&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;26943&#039;,&#039;declinest&#039;,&#039;but seattle is special!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but seattle is special!<div
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