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		<title>By: February Reporting Roundup &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-44092</link>
		<dc:creator>February Reporting Roundup &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wait a minute. Last month&#8217;s Tribune quoted Lakewood Realtor Mike Larson as saying &#8220;The bottom is here or pretty soon, I think. I would be surprised if things donâ€™t [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('44092','February Reporting Roundup | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;#38; discussion about real estate &amp;#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('44092','February Reporting Roundup | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;#38; discussion about real estate &amp;#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; wait a minute. Last month&amp;#8217;s Tribune quoted Lakewood Realtor Mike Larson as saying &amp;#8220;The bottom is here or pretty soon, I think. I would be surprised if things don&acirc;€™t &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: AndySeattle</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40259</link>
		<dc:creator>AndySeattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;The Tim said:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes please! That would be great!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40259&#039;,&#039;AndySeattle&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40259&#039;,&#039;AndySeattle&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;The Tim said:&lt;\/b&gt;\r\n&lt;i&gt;\&quot;Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions.\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYes please! That would be great!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The Tim said:</b><br />
<i>&#8220;Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes please! That would be great!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40259','AndySeattle',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40259','AndySeattle','&lt;b&gt;The Tim said:&lt;\/b&gt;\r\n&lt;i&gt;\&quot;Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions.\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYes please! That would be great!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike2</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40205</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>however thereâ€™s no way for redfin to fully track when a listing gets pulled and reposted under a different number, correct?</i></p>
<p>As of yet there&#8217;s no way to GET this information from the RedFin website, but it does exist in the MLS.  RedFin reports the DOM (days on market) statistic, but there&#8217;s also a CDOM (cumulative days on the market) recorded.  I havent&#8217; seen any site that reports that to the public.  CDOM has different reset characteristics, the more important of which is &#8220;after a material change in the property&#8221; &#8211; whereas DOM resets every time the house is listed.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40205','Mike2',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40205','Mike2','&lt;i&gt;however there&acirc;€™s no way for redfin to fully track when a listing gets pulled and reposted under a different number, correct?&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nAs of yet there\'s no way to GET this information from the RedFin website, but it does exist in the MLS.  RedFin reports the DOM (days on market) statistic, but there\'s also a CDOM (cumulative days on the market) recorded.  I havent\' seen any site that reports that to the public.  CDOM has different reset characteristics, the more important of which is \&quot;after a material change in the property\&quot; - whereas DOM resets every time the house is listed.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ira Sacharoff</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40148</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira Sacharoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with Olaf on this one. It&#039;s NOT in my best interest to lie and fluff up the market...I did speak with Aubrey Cohen of the P-I in September, and was quoted in the paper saying that prices were going to drop. And I did get a few calls from other agents, basically telling me that I didn&#039;t know what I was talking about.
Sure, I want clients. But do I want to view these people as &quot;suckers&quot; who won&#039;t be repeat customers, who won&#039;t refer me to their friends and family because I&#039;m a liar?
I don&#039;t think many agents have a long term perspective, they want business now, and at all costs...me, I&#039;ve got more of a hippie-dippie philosophy of &quot; if I&#039;m doing the right thing, business will come.&quot;, and lying is not the right thing.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40148&#039;,&#039;Ira Sacharoff&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40148&#039;,&#039;Ira Sacharoff&#039;,&#039;I have to disagree with Olaf on this one. It\&#039;s NOT in my best interest to lie and fluff up the market...I did speak with Aubrey Cohen of the P-I in September, and was quoted in the paper saying that prices were going to drop. And I did get a few calls from other agents, basically telling me that I didn\&#039;t know what I was talking about.\r\nSure, I want clients. But do I want to view these people as \&quot;suckers\&quot; who won\&#039;t be repeat customers, who won\&#039;t refer me to their friends and family because I\&#039;m a liar?\r\nI don\&#039;t think many agents have a long term perspective, they want business now, and at all costs...me, I\&#039;ve got more of a hippie-dippie philosophy of \&quot; if I\&#039;m doing the right thing, business will come.\&quot;, and lying is not the right thing.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with Olaf on this one. It&#8217;s NOT in my best interest to lie and fluff up the market&#8230;I did speak with Aubrey Cohen of the P-I in September, and was quoted in the paper saying that prices were going to drop. And I did get a few calls from other agents, basically telling me that I didn&#8217;t know what I was talking about.<br />
Sure, I want clients. But do I want to view these people as &#8220;suckers&#8221; who won&#8217;t be repeat customers, who won&#8217;t refer me to their friends and family because I&#8217;m a liar?<br />
I don&#8217;t think many agents have a long term perspective, they want business now, and at all costs&#8230;me, I&#8217;ve got more of a hippie-dippie philosophy of &#8221; if I&#8217;m doing the right thing, business will come.&#8221;, and lying is not the right thing.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40148','Ira Sacharoff',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40148','Ira Sacharoff','I have to disagree with Olaf on this one. It\'s NOT in my best interest to lie and fluff up the market...I did speak with Aubrey Cohen of the P-I in September, and was quoted in the paper saying that prices were going to drop. And I did get a few calls from other agents, basically telling me that I didn\'t know what I was talking about.\r\nSure, I want clients. But do I want to view these people as \&quot;suckers\&quot; who won\'t be repeat customers, who won\'t refer me to their friends and family because I\'m a liar?\r\nI don\'t think many agents have a long term perspective, they want business now, and at all costs...me, I\'ve got more of a hippie-dippie philosophy of \&quot; if I\'m doing the right thing, business will come.\&quot;, and lying is not the right thing.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40146</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>however there&#039;s no way for redfin to fully track when a listing gets pulled and reposted under a different number, correct?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40146&#039;,&#039;j&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40146&#039;,&#039;j&#039;,&#039;however there\&#039;s no way for redfin to fully track when a listing gets pulled and reposted under a different number, correct?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>however there&#8217;s no way for redfin to fully track when a listing gets pulled and reposted under a different number, correct?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40146','j',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40146','j','however there\'s no way for redfin to fully track when a listing gets pulled and reposted under a different number, correct?',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: disbelief</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40139</link>
		<dc:creator>disbelief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, I love Redfin! Seeing the history of price drops is great and should provide much entertainment in the future. Burn baby burn!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40139&#039;,&#039;disbelief&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40139&#039;,&#039;disbelief&#039;,&#039;Ha, I love Redfin! Seeing the history of price drops is great and should provide much entertainment in the future. Burn baby burn!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, I love Redfin! Seeing the history of price drops is great and should provide much entertainment in the future. Burn baby burn!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40139','disbelief',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40139','disbelief','Ha, I love Redfin! Seeing the history of price drops is great and should provide much entertainment in the future. Burn baby burn!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: jess/pumpkin</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40133</link>
		<dc:creator>jess/pumpkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interesting, I seemed to have found one thatâ€™s still appreciating :) How serious can these people be?<br />
<a href="http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=300992" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=300992</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, I remember bringing up this house on the forum back in October:<br />
<a href="http://seattlebubble.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=782" rel="nofollow">http://seattlebubble.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=782</a></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t bother to keep track of it, and I am SHOCKED that they continued to raise the price!  God, no wonder I&#8217;m developing buyer&#8217;s ulcers (as evidenced this morning).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40133','jess\/pumpkin',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40133','jess\/pumpkin','\&quot;Interesting, I seemed to have found one that&acirc;€™s still appreciating :) How serious can these people be?\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=300992\&quot;\r\n\r\n\r\nWow, I remember bringing up this house on the forum back in October:\r\nhttp:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;amp;t=782\r\n\r\nI didn\'t bother to keep track of it, and I am SHOCKED that they continued to raise the price!  God, no wonder I\'m developing buyer\'s ulcers (as evidenced this morning).',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40129</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three cities did emerge with higher prices compared with 12 months ago: Prices rose 2.9 percent in Charlotte, N.C., 1.8 percent in Seattle and 1.3 percent in Portland, Ore. But even these markets have turned down over the last three months. Indeed, every city in the index recorded at least three consecutive months of falling prices through November.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40129&#039;,&#039;Shawn&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40129&#039;,&#039;Shawn&#039;,&#039;Three cities did emerge with higher prices compared with 12 months ago: Prices rose 2.9 percent in Charlotte, N.C., 1.8 percent in Seattle and 1.3 percent in Portland, Ore. But even these markets have turned down over the last three months. Indeed, every city in the index recorded at least three consecutive months of falling prices through November.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three cities did emerge with higher prices compared with 12 months ago: Prices rose 2.9 percent in Charlotte, N.C., 1.8 percent in Seattle and 1.3 percent in Portland, Ore. But even these markets have turned down over the last three months. Indeed, every city in the index recorded at least three consecutive months of falling prices through November.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40129','Shawn',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40129','Shawn','Three cities did emerge with higher prices compared with 12 months ago: Prices rose 2.9 percent in Charlotte, N.C., 1.8 percent in Seattle and 1.3 percent in Portland, Ore. But even these markets have turned down over the last three months. Indeed, every city in the index recorded at least three consecutive months of falling prices through November.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40127</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read that the S&amp;P/Case-Shiller reports that &quot;NO&quot; US city saw price increases in the last three months (Seattle included).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40127&#039;,&#039;Shawn&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40127&#039;,&#039;Shawn&#039;,&#039;I just read that the S&amp;P\/Case-Shiller reports that \&quot;NO\&quot; US city saw price increases in the last three months (Seattle included).&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read that the S&amp;P/Case-Shiller reports that &#8220;NO&#8221; US city saw price increases in the last three months (Seattle included).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40127','Shawn',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40127','Shawn','I just read that the S&amp;amp;P\/Case-Shiller reports that \&quot;NO\&quot; US city saw price increases in the last three months (Seattle included).',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: patient</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40126</link>
		<dc:creator>patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it looks like the poor soul who owns it bought it for $995k in Feb 2007. I wonder if he/she agrees with that &quot;prices are edging up&quot;?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40126&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40126&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;And it looks like the poor soul who owns it bought it for $995k in Feb 2007. I wonder if he\/she agrees with that \&quot;prices are edging up\&quot;?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it looks like the poor soul who owns it bought it for $995k in Feb 2007. I wonder if he/she agrees with that &#8220;prices are edging up&#8221;?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40126','patient',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40126','patient','And it looks like the poor soul who owns it bought it for $995k in Feb 2007. I wonder if he\/she agrees with that \&quot;prices are edging up\&quot;?',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: patient</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40124</link>
		<dc:creator>patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one with a slightly more motivated seller...$268k or 26% reduction in less than 3 months. Now we&#039;re talking!

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1289686&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40124&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40124&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;Here\&#039;s one with a slightly more motivated seller...$268k or 26% reduction in less than 3 months. Now we\&#039;re talking!\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=1289686&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one with a slightly more motivated seller&#8230;$268k or 26% reduction in less than 3 months. Now we&#8217;re talking!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1289686" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=1289686</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40124','patient',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40124','patient','Here\'s one with a slightly more motivated seller...$268k or 26% reduction in less than 3 months. Now we\'re talking!\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=1289686',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Everett_Tom</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40120</link>
		<dc:creator>Everett_Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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just_checking  // Feb 7, 2008 at 4:57 pm

My link can beat yours anytime :).

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=134055

Take that deeplennon !! :)

1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.
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Wow...  $1.2 Million for my very own junk yard... From the Bird&#039;s Eye view on Zillow you can even count the school buses, boats and cars.. 

wonder why no one has picked up this..... uh.. deal...

(note: the first line of the description is great... &quot;Seller is very motivated. ..&quot; )&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40120&#039;,&#039;Everett_Tom&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40120&#039;,&#039;Everett_Tom&#039;,&#039;&lt;blockquote&gt;\r\njust_checking  \/\/ Feb 7, 2008 at 4:57 pm\r\n\r\nMy link can beat yours anytime :).\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=134055\r\n\r\nTake that deeplennon !! :)\r\n\r\n1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.\r\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\nWow...  $1.2 Million for my very own junk yard... From the Bird\&#039;s Eye view on Zillow you can even count the school buses, boats and cars.. \r\n\r\nwonder why no one has picked up this..... uh.. deal...\r\n\r\n(note: the first line of the description is great... \&quot;Seller is very motivated. ..\&quot; )&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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just_checking  // Feb 7, 2008 at 4:57 pm</p>
<p>My link can beat yours anytime :).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=134055" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=134055</a></p>
<p>Take that deeplennon !! :)</p>
<p>1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.
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<p>Wow&#8230;  $1.2 Million for my very own junk yard&#8230; From the Bird&#8217;s Eye view on Zillow you can even count the school buses, boats and cars.. </p>
<p>wonder why no one has picked up this&#8230;.. uh.. deal&#8230;</p>
<p>(note: the first line of the description is great&#8230; &#8220;Seller is very motivated. ..&#8221; )
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40120','Everett_Tom',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40120','Everett_Tom','&lt;blockquote&gt;\r\njust_checking  \/\/ Feb 7, 2008 at 4:57 pm\r\n\r\nMy link can beat yours anytime :).\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=134055\r\n\r\nTake that deeplennon !! :)\r\n\r\n1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.\r\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\nWow...  $1.2 Million for my very own junk yard... From the Bird\'s Eye view on Zillow you can even count the school buses, boats and cars.. \r\n\r\nwonder why no one has picked up this..... uh.. deal...\r\n\r\n(note: the first line of the description is great... \&quot;Seller is very motivated. ..\&quot; )',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: just_checking</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40119</link>
		<dc:creator>just_checking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My link can beat yours anytime :). 

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=134055

Take that deeplennon !! :)

1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40119&#039;,&#039;just_checking&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40119&#039;,&#039;just_checking&#039;,&#039;My link can beat yours anytime :). \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=134055\r\n\r\nTake that deeplennon !! :)\r\n\r\n1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My link can beat yours anytime :). </p>
<p><a href="http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=134055" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=134055</a></p>
<p>Take that deeplennon !! :)</p>
<p>1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40119','just_checking',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40119','just_checking','My link can beat yours anytime :). \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=134055\r\n\r\nTake that deeplennon !! :)\r\n\r\n1121 days on the market and a 50K price reduction.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: deeplennon</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40114</link>
		<dc:creator>deeplennon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Olaf: &#8220;Redfin now puts up each listingâ€™s price change (drop), with dates. Look up any house thatâ€™s been on the market for a while. Itâ€™s not as scientific as Timâ€™s stats, but it tells the story pretty convincingly.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Interesting, I seemed to have found one that&#8217;s still appreciating :)  How serious can these people be?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=300992" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=300992</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40114','deeplennon',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40114','deeplennon','&lt;i&gt;Olaf: \&quot;Redfin now puts up each listing&acirc;€™s price change (drop), with dates. Look up any house that&acirc;€™s been on the market for a while. It&acirc;€™s not as scientific as Tim&acirc;€™s stats, but it tells the story pretty convincingly.\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nInteresting, I seemed to have found one that\'s still appreciating :)  How serious can these people be?\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.redfin.com\/stingray\/do\/printable-listing?listing-id=300992',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Olaf</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40106</link>
		<dc:creator>Olaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t being fascetious in my remarks earlier.  I meant what I said: If you&#039;re a realtor, it&#039;s in your interest to lie and fluff up the market.  Any realtor who tells the truth will be tarred as the guy who doesn&#039;t believe in the market -- and sellers will find some other guy who&#039;s willing to keep stroking their delusions about getting $600 K for that bungalow in Northgate that grandma died in.

Especially now, with commissions getting scarcer, they have zero incentive to be straight.  It&#039;s not their fault: it&#039;s just the pernicious nature of the commission-based system.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40106&#039;,&#039;Olaf&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40106&#039;,&#039;Olaf&#039;,&#039;I wasn\&#039;t being fascetious in my remarks earlier.  I meant what I said: If you\&#039;re a realtor, it\&#039;s in your interest to lie and fluff up the market.  Any realtor who tells the truth will be tarred as the guy who doesn\&#039;t believe in the market -- and sellers will find some other guy who\&#039;s willing to keep stroking their delusions about getting $600 K for that bungalow in Northgate that grandma died in.\r\n\r\nEspecially now, with commissions getting scarcer, they have zero incentive to be straight.  It\&#039;s not their fault: it\&#039;s just the pernicious nature of the commission-based system.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t being fascetious in my remarks earlier.  I meant what I said: If you&#8217;re a realtor, it&#8217;s in your interest to lie and fluff up the market.  Any realtor who tells the truth will be tarred as the guy who doesn&#8217;t believe in the market &#8212; and sellers will find some other guy who&#8217;s willing to keep stroking their delusions about getting $600 K for that bungalow in Northgate that grandma died in.</p>
<p>Especially now, with commissions getting scarcer, they have zero incentive to be straight.  It&#8217;s not their fault: it&#8217;s just the pernicious nature of the commission-based system.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40106','Olaf',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40106','Olaf','I wasn\'t being fascetious in my remarks earlier.  I meant what I said: If you\'re a realtor, it\'s in your interest to lie and fluff up the market.  Any realtor who tells the truth will be tarred as the guy who doesn\'t believe in the market -- and sellers will find some other guy who\'s willing to keep stroking their delusions about getting $600 K for that bungalow in Northgate that grandma died in.\r\n\r\nEspecially now, with commissions getting scarcer, they have zero incentive to be straight.  It\'s not their fault: it\'s just the pernicious nature of the commission-based system.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Moe Ronn - RealitorÂ®</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40102</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Ronn - RealitorÂ®</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$200K that is!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40102&#039;,&#039;Moe Ronn - Realitor&#194;&#174;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40102&#039;,&#039;Moe Ronn - Realitor&#194;&#174;&#039;,&#039;$200K that is!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$200K that is!
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		<title>By: Moe Ronn - RealitorÂ®</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40101</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Ronn - RealitorÂ®</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, my plan is to have a tidy sum of $40-50K ready for a down payment on a 15-year fixed mortgage in no less than 2 years from now, possibly as long as 4 years.  If it&#039;s 4 years, I&#039;ll have more like $70K ready.  I will stay under $200 for my purchase.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40101&#039;,&#039;Moe Ronn - Realitor&#194;&#174;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40101&#039;,&#039;Moe Ronn - Realitor&#194;&#174;&#039;,&#039;Yup, my plan is to have a tidy sum of $40-50K ready for a down payment on a 15-year fixed mortgage in no less than 2 years from now, possibly as long as 4 years.  If it\&#039;s 4 years, I\&#039;ll have more like $70K ready.  I will stay under $200 for my purchase.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, my plan is to have a tidy sum of $40-50K ready for a down payment on a 15-year fixed mortgage in no less than 2 years from now, possibly as long as 4 years.  If it&#8217;s 4 years, I&#8217;ll have more like $70K ready.  I will stay under $200 for my purchase.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40101','Moe Ronn - Realitor&Acirc;&reg;',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40101','Moe Ronn - Realitor&Acirc;&reg;','Yup, my plan is to have a tidy sum of $40-50K ready for a down payment on a 15-year fixed mortgage in no less than 2 years from now, possibly as long as 4 years.  If it\'s 4 years, I\'ll have more like $70K ready.  I will stay under $200 for my purchase.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike2</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40100</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If I were a Realtor, I would be doing everthing in my interest to get sales volume back up. You donâ€™t need a 3-digit IQ to realize this means a major drop in prices.<br />
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<p>Unfortunately, the converse is not true.  Just because prices drop does not mean sales volume will increase.</p>
<p>Looking at my own neighborhood, similar homes were selling at close to $500K at the peak, and volume was high.  Now, there are dozens for sale at at an average price in the high $300&#8217;s and they sit.  All these new listings have popped up in recent weeks, all asking the same $389,999 or a few bucks up or down &#8211; and buyers are nowhere to be found.  </p>
<p>At some point, the price drops become so startling, people have lost so much equity, and inventory multiplies like rabits and despite the improvement in &#8220;affordability&#8221; buyers just aren&#8217;t buying.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40100','Mike2',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40100','Mike2','&lt;i&gt;If I were a Realtor, I would be doing everthing in my interest to get sales volume back up. You don&acirc;€™t need a 3-digit IQ to realize this means a major drop in prices.\r\n&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nUnfortunately, the converse is not true.  Just because prices drop does not mean sales volume will increase.\r\n\r\nLooking at my own neighborhood, similar homes were selling at close to $500K at the peak, and volume was high.  Now, there are dozens for sale at at an average price in the high $300\'s and they sit.  All these new listings have popped up in recent weeks, all asking the same $389,999 or a few bucks up or down - and buyers are nowhere to be found.  \r\n\r\nAt some point, the price drops become so startling, people have lost so much equity, and inventory multiplies like rabits and despite the improvement in \&quot;affordability\&quot; buyers just aren\'t buying.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: wreckingbull</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40093</link>
		<dc:creator>wreckingbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story. If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, and here is the reason:

If prices don&#039;t fall, sales volume will stay in its current pitiful state.   If sales volume stays in its pitiful state, many, many, real estate professionals go out of business.   I don&#039;t see why this concept is so hard to grasp.   

If I were a Realtor, I would be doing everthing in my interest to get sales volume back up.   You don&#039;t need a 3-digit IQ to realize this means a major drop in prices.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40093&#039;,&#039;wreckingbull&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40093&#039;,&#039;wreckingbull&#039;,&#039;&lt;i&gt;Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story. If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYes, and here is the reason:\r\n\r\nIf prices don\&#039;t fall, sales volume will stay in its current pitiful state.   If sales volume stays in its pitiful state, many, many, real estate professionals go out of business.   I don\&#039;t see why this concept is so hard to grasp.   \r\n\r\nIf I were a Realtor, I would be doing everthing in my interest to get sales volume back up.   You don\&#039;t need a 3-digit IQ to realize this means a major drop in prices.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story. If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?</i></p>
<p>Yes, and here is the reason:</p>
<p>If prices don&#8217;t fall, sales volume will stay in its current pitiful state.   If sales volume stays in its pitiful state, many, many, real estate professionals go out of business.   I don&#8217;t see why this concept is so hard to grasp.   </p>
<p>If I were a Realtor, I would be doing everthing in my interest to get sales volume back up.   You don&#8217;t need a 3-digit IQ to realize this means a major drop in prices.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40093','wreckingbull',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40093','wreckingbull','&lt;i&gt;Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story. If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYes, and here is the reason:\r\n\r\nIf prices don\'t fall, sales volume will stay in its current pitiful state.   If sales volume stays in its pitiful state, many, many, real estate professionals go out of business.   I don\'t see why this concept is so hard to grasp.   \r\n\r\nIf I were a Realtor, I would be doing everthing in my interest to get sales volume back up.   You don\'t need a 3-digit IQ to realize this means a major drop in prices.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40091</link>
		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Area sales should pick up in the middle of the first quarter with prices increasing by 3 percent to 8 percent, depending on the location, said Ken Bacon, a listing service director and associate broker at Windermere Real Estate/S.C.A. in Redmond, in a statement from the listing service.&quot;

Tim, you need to do interviews with these people.  Find out what statistics he&#039;s using to base his predictions on.

i agree with the bottom calling.  If you could list the names, dates, prediction v. actual I think it&#039;d be a great &quot;who is full of b.s.&quot; resource for people looking for an agent when they hit the market.  Assuming, of course, any of these B.S. talkers are still in RE when it comes time to purchase.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40091&#039;,&#039;nitsuj&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40091&#039;,&#039;nitsuj&#039;,&#039;\&quot;Area sales should pick up in the middle of the first quarter with prices increasing by 3 percent to 8 percent, depending on the location, said Ken Bacon, a listing service director and associate broker at Windermere Real Estate\/S.C.A. in Redmond, in a statement from the listing service.\&quot;\r\n\r\nTim, you need to do interviews with these people.  Find out what statistics he\&#039;s using to base his predictions on.\r\n\r\ni agree with the bottom calling.  If you could list the names, dates, prediction v. actual I think it\&#039;d be a great \&quot;who is full of b.s.\&quot; resource for people looking for an agent when they hit the market.  Assuming, of course, any of these B.S. talkers are still in RE when it comes time to purchase.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Area sales should pick up in the middle of the first quarter with prices increasing by 3 percent to 8 percent, depending on the location, said Ken Bacon, a listing service director and associate broker at Windermere Real Estate/S.C.A. in Redmond, in a statement from the listing service.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tim, you need to do interviews with these people.  Find out what statistics he&#8217;s using to base his predictions on.</p>
<p>i agree with the bottom calling.  If you could list the names, dates, prediction v. actual I think it&#8217;d be a great &#8220;who is full of b.s.&#8221; resource for people looking for an agent when they hit the market.  Assuming, of course, any of these B.S. talkers are still in RE when it comes time to purchase.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40091','nitsuj',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40091','nitsuj','\&quot;Area sales should pick up in the middle of the first quarter with prices increasing by 3 percent to 8 percent, depending on the location, said Ken Bacon, a listing service director and associate broker at Windermere Real Estate\/S.C.A. in Redmond, in a statement from the listing service.\&quot;\r\n\r\nTim, you need to do interviews with these people.  Find out what statistics he\'s using to base his predictions on.\r\n\r\ni agree with the bottom calling.  If you could list the names, dates, prediction v. actual I think it\'d be a great \&quot;who is full of b.s.\&quot; resource for people looking for an agent when they hit the market.  Assuming, of course, any of these B.S. talkers are still in RE when it comes time to purchase.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Olaf</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40089</link>
		<dc:creator>Olaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story.  If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?

It&#039;s no different than the Romney campaign giving quotes about fighting on, one day before he dropped out.  They don&#039;t expect anyone to believe them, and the reporter quoting them doesn&#039;t expect readers to take those quotes as unbiased analysis, either.

Redfin now puts up each listing&#039;s price change (drop), with dates.  Look up any house that&#039;s been on the market for a while.  It&#039;s not as scientific as Tim&#039;s stats, but it tells the story pretty convincingly.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40089&#039;,&#039;Olaf&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40089&#039;,&#039;Olaf&#039;,&#039;Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story.  If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?\r\n\r\nIt\&#039;s no different than the Romney campaign giving quotes about fighting on, one day before he dropped out.  They don\&#039;t expect anyone to believe them, and the reporter quoting them doesn\&#039;t expect readers to take those quotes as unbiased analysis, either.\r\n\r\nRedfin now puts up each listing\&#039;s price change (drop), with dates.  Look up any house that\&#039;s been on the market for a while.  It\&#039;s not as scientific as Tim\&#039;s stats, but it tells the story pretty convincingly.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story.  If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no different than the Romney campaign giving quotes about fighting on, one day before he dropped out.  They don&#8217;t expect anyone to believe them, and the reporter quoting them doesn&#8217;t expect readers to take those quotes as unbiased analysis, either.</p>
<p>Redfin now puts up each listing&#8217;s price change (drop), with dates.  Look up any house that&#8217;s been on the market for a while.  It&#8217;s not as scientific as Tim&#8217;s stats, but it tells the story pretty convincingly.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40089','Olaf',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40089','Olaf','Those optimistic comments by realtors are just part of the template for that story.  If you were in the realty business and a reporter called you for a quote, would you really go on the record saying your sector is tanking?\r\n\r\nIt\'s no different than the Romney campaign giving quotes about fighting on, one day before he dropped out.  They don\'t expect anyone to believe them, and the reporter quoting them doesn\'t expect readers to take those quotes as unbiased analysis, either.\r\n\r\nRedfin now puts up each listing\'s price change (drop), with dates.  Look up any house that\'s been on the market for a while.  It\'s not as scientific as Tim\'s stats, but it tells the story pretty convincingly.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: vboring</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40086</link>
		<dc:creator>vboring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>next month, there may be a small month to month improvement. that will be the focus of the RE professionals, instead of looking at the year to year declines.

this strategy may take them through next summer.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40086&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40086&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;next month, there may be a small month to month improvement. that will be the focus of the RE professionals, instead of looking at the year to year declines.\r\n\r\nthis strategy may take them through next summer.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>next month, there may be a small month to month improvement. that will be the focus of the RE professionals, instead of looking at the year to year declines.</p>
<p>this strategy may take them through next summer.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40086','vboring',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40086','vboring','next month, there may be a small month to month improvement. that will be the focus of the RE professionals, instead of looking at the year to year declines.\r\n\r\nthis strategy may take them through next summer.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: MisterBubble</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40068</link>
		<dc:creator>MisterBubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with the bottom-calling.  Anything to make these people look like the fools that they are is a good thing.

Also, it&#039;s a source of factual information that will hit people in the gut when they come to the site -- you don&#039;t very often see hard facts that &lt;i&gt;prove&lt;/i&gt; that pundits are idiots.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40068&#039;,&#039;MisterBubble&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40068&#039;,&#039;MisterBubble&#039;,&#039;Agreed with the bottom-calling.  Anything to make these people look like the fools that they are is a good thing.\r\n\r\nAlso, it\&#039;s a source of factual information that will hit people in the gut when they come to the site -- you don\&#039;t very often see hard facts that &lt;i&gt;prove&lt;\/i&gt; that pundits are idiots.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with the bottom-calling.  Anything to make these people look like the fools that they are is a good thing.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s a source of factual information that will hit people in the gut when they come to the site &#8212; you don&#8217;t very often see hard facts that <i>prove</i> that pundits are idiots.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40068','MisterBubble',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40068','MisterBubble','Agreed with the bottom-calling.  Anything to make these people look like the fools that they are is a good thing.\r\n\r\nAlso, it\'s a source of factual information that will hit people in the gut when they come to the site -- you don\'t very often see hard facts that &lt;i&gt;prove&lt;\/i&gt; that pundits are idiots.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: singliac</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40065</link>
		<dc:creator>singliac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second rose-colored-coolaid&#039;s idea.  Wouldn&#039;t it be great 5 years from now to look at that graph with real estate &quot;experts&quot; calling the bottom.  You could even put their real estate logos by each prediction.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40065&#039;,&#039;singliac&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40065&#039;,&#039;singliac&#039;,&#039;I second rose-colored-coolaid\&#039;s idea.  Wouldn\&#039;t it be great 5 years from now to look at that graph with real estate \&quot;experts\&quot; calling the bottom.  You could even put their real estate logos by each prediction.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second rose-colored-coolaid&#8217;s idea.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be great 5 years from now to look at that graph with real estate &#8220;experts&#8221; calling the bottom.  You could even put their real estate logos by each prediction.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40065','singliac',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40065','singliac','I second rose-colored-coolaid\'s idea.  Wouldn\'t it be great 5 years from now to look at that graph with real estate \&quot;experts\&quot; calling the bottom.  You could even put their real estate logos by each prediction.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: rose-colored-coolaid</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40057</link>
		<dc:creator>rose-colored-coolaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions. That could be fun.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In addition to all the numeric charts about sales figures and prices, I wish we had a historical chart for when bottoms are called.  It could track local experts, and I predict it would look something like this.

This would be an excellent resource to know when we had hit the actual bottom.  When all the experts give up on calling the bottom, it&#039;s here.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40057&#039;,&#039;rose-colored-coolaid&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40057&#039;,&#039;rose-colored-coolaid&#039;,&#039;&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions. That could be fun.\r\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIn addition to all the numeric charts about sales figures and prices, I wish we had a historical chart for when bottoms are called.  It could track local experts, and I predict it would look something like this.\r\n\r\nThis would be an excellent resource to know when we had hit the actual bottom.  When all the experts give up on calling the bottom, it\&#039;s here.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions. That could be fun.
</p></blockquote>
<p>In addition to all the numeric charts about sales figures and prices, I wish we had a historical chart for when bottoms are called.  It could track local experts, and I predict it would look something like this.</p>
<p>This would be an excellent resource to know when we had hit the actual bottom.  When all the experts give up on calling the bottom, it&#8217;s here.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40057','rose-colored-coolaid',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40057','rose-colored-coolaid','&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe I should start a page where all we do is collect specific quotes from local agents calling the bottom or making unrealistic upbeat predictions. That could be fun.\r\n&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIn addition to all the numeric charts about sales figures and prices, I wish we had a historical chart for when bottoms are called.  It could track local experts, and I predict it would look something like this.\r\n\r\nThis would be an excellent resource to know when we had hit the actual bottom.  When all the experts give up on calling the bottom, it\'s here.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40050</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to the next two months of YOY &quot;appreciation&quot; numbers.  February and March of 2007 had some of the highest MOM appreciation figures from the last few years (excluding condos).  Just by keeping level over the next 2 months, single family homes would be DOWN 4.4% YOY by March.  Trying to be completely objective and not propagate the image of hysterical bubblehead, I just don&#039;t see prices jumping up in the next couple months like they did last year.  They will have to dig a little deeper from their statistics grab bag to find a rosy picture if -4.4% pops out for SFH.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40050&#039;,&#039;Wanderer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40050&#039;,&#039;Wanderer&#039;,&#039;I look forward to the next two months of YOY \&quot;appreciation\&quot; numbers.  February and March of 2007 had some of the highest MOM appreciation figures from the last few years (excluding condos).  Just by keeping level over the next 2 months, single family homes would be DOWN 4.4% YOY by March.  Trying to be completely objective and not propagate the image of hysterical bubblehead, I just don\&#039;t see prices jumping up in the next couple months like they did last year.  They will have to dig a little deeper from their statistics grab bag to find a rosy picture if -4.4% pops out for SFH.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to the next two months of YOY &#8220;appreciation&#8221; numbers.  February and March of 2007 had some of the highest MOM appreciation figures from the last few years (excluding condos).  Just by keeping level over the next 2 months, single family homes would be DOWN 4.4% YOY by March.  Trying to be completely objective and not propagate the image of hysterical bubblehead, I just don&#8217;t see prices jumping up in the next couple months like they did last year.  They will have to dig a little deeper from their statistics grab bag to find a rosy picture if -4.4% pops out for SFH.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40050','Wanderer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40050','Wanderer','I look forward to the next two months of YOY \&quot;appreciation\&quot; numbers.  February and March of 2007 had some of the highest MOM appreciation figures from the last few years (excluding condos).  Just by keeping level over the next 2 months, single family homes would be DOWN 4.4% YOY by March.  Trying to be completely objective and not propagate the image of hysterical bubblehead, I just don\'t see prices jumping up in the next couple months like they did last year.  They will have to dig a little deeper from their statistics grab bag to find a rosy picture if -4.4% pops out for SFH.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: vboring</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/07/january-reporting-roundup-2/#comment-40035</link>
		<dc:creator>vboring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surprisingly little emphasis on the slight rise in median prices in the city.

i figured that would be the headline for the RE sections:

&quot;seattle RE continues to buck national trend with increasing prices&quot;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40035&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40035&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;surprisingly little emphasis on the slight rise in median prices in the city.\r\n\r\ni figured that would be the headline for the RE sections:\r\n\r\n\&quot;seattle RE continues to buck national trend with increasing prices\&quot;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surprisingly little emphasis on the slight rise in median prices in the city.</p>
<p>i figured that would be the headline for the RE sections:</p>
<p>&#8220;seattle RE continues to buck national trend with increasing prices&#8221;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40035','vboring',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40035','vboring','surprisingly little emphasis on the slight rise in median prices in the city.\r\n\r\ni figured that would be the headline for the RE sections:\r\n\r\n\&quot;seattle RE continues to buck national trend with increasing prices\&quot;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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