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		<title>By: Washington State&#8217;s Economy: Gregoire vs. Gregoire &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-53634</link>
		<dc:creator>Washington State&#8217;s Economy: Gregoire vs. Gregoire &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Luckily, we&#8217;ve been preparing for this.  Oh wait no, no we haven&#8217;t. [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;53634&#039;,&#039;Washington State&#8217;s Economy: Gregoire vs. Gregoire &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &amp; discussion about real estate &amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;53634&#039;,&#039;Washington State&#8217;s Economy: Gregoire vs. Gregoire &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &amp; discussion about real estate &amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; Luckily, we&#8217;ve been preparing for this.&#194;&#160; Oh wait no, no we haven&#8217;t. &#91;...&#93;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Luckily, we&#8217;ve been preparing for this.  Oh wait no, no we haven&#8217;t. [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('53634','Washington State&amp;#8217;s Economy: Gregoire vs. Gregoire | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;amp; discussion about real estate &amp;amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('53634','Washington State&amp;#8217;s Economy: Gregoire vs. Gregoire | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;amp; discussion about real estate &amp;amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; Luckily, we&amp;#8217;ve been preparing for this.&Acirc;&nbsp; Oh wait no, no we haven&amp;#8217;t. &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Housing Slowdown Begins to Trash Local Economy &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-50351</link>
		<dc:creator>Housing Slowdown Begins to Trash Local Economy &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I guess everybody must have ignored Gregoire&#8217;s advice and bought into the self-fulfilling dire talk. We should have tried to believe [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;50351&#039;,&#039;Housing Slowdown Begins to Trash Local Economy &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &amp; discussion about real estate &amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;50351&#039;,&#039;Housing Slowdown Begins to Trash Local Economy &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &amp; discussion about real estate &amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; I guess everybody must have ignored Gregoire&#8217;s advice and bought into the self-fulfilling dire talk. We should have tried to believe &#91;...&#93;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I guess everybody must have ignored Gregoire&#8217;s advice and bought into the self-fulfilling dire talk. We should have tried to believe [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('50351','Housing Slowdown Begins to Trash Local Economy | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;amp; discussion about real estate &amp;amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('50351','Housing Slowdown Begins to Trash Local Economy | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;amp; discussion about real estate &amp;amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; I guess everybody must have ignored Gregoire&amp;#8217;s advice and bought into the self-fulfilling dire talk. We should have tried to believe &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: State Economy Continues to Slow &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-46412</link>
		<dc:creator>State Economy Continues to Slow &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &#38; discussion about real estate &#38; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let&#8217;s not forget that official state policy appears to be &#8220;close your eyes, plug your ears, and wish your problems away,&#8221; as laid out from the top by Christine Gregoire. [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;46412&#039;,&#039;State Economy Continues to Slow &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &amp; discussion about real estate &amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;46412&#039;,&#039;State Economy Continues to Slow &#124; Seattle Bubble &#8212; News &amp; discussion about real estate &amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; Let&#8217;s not forget that official state policy appears to be &#8220;close your eyes, plug your ears, and wish your problems away,&#8221; as laid out from the top by Christine Gregoire. &#91;...&#93;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let&#8217;s not forget that official state policy appears to be &#8220;close your eyes, plug your ears, and wish your problems away,&#8221; as laid out from the top by Christine Gregoire. [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('46412','State Economy Continues to Slow | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;amp; discussion about real estate &amp;amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('46412','State Economy Continues to Slow | Seattle Bubble &amp;#8212; News &amp;amp; discussion about real estate &amp;amp; the housing bubble in the Seattle area.','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; Let&amp;#8217;s not forget that official state policy appears to be &amp;#8220;close your eyes, plug your ears, and wish your problems away,&amp;#8221; as laid out from the top by Christine Gregoire. &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: wldlndff</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40304</link>
		<dc:creator>wldlndff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point redmondjp government employee&#039;s probably are a little more comfortable when the economy is slow, but we are still vulnerable.  In my case I started working for state government after obtaining my bachelor&#039;s, and the salary they offered me was just under 30K and has not raised much since then(wow good thing I went to college).  Yes, the last couple of years we have received salary increases(6.4%) but the last time before that was 2000.  Oh wait can anybody tell me how much inflation increases each year....3-4%?   Government wages hardly keep up with inflation in my case.  Although we have different employers I would like to think we share similar values... affordable housing, lower taxes and job security to name a few.  Do I agree with gov. greg... no!  Do I agree with L. Yun... no.   Do I think that housing prices will fall to a more sustainable level....Yes!

P.S.  The agency I work for actually generates funds(timber) for schools, universities, prisons and other government funded projects.  For example a high school I know of is being built for 25mm but the tax payers in that district only have a bill of 16mm the rest is being picked up by the agency I work for.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40304&#039;,&#039;wldlndff&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40304&#039;,&#039;wldlndff&#039;,&#039;Good point redmondjp government employee\&#039;s probably are a little more comfortable when the economy is slow, but we are still vulnerable.  In my case I started working for state government after obtaining my bachelor\&#039;s, and the salary they offered me was just under 30K and has not raised much since then(wow good thing I went to college).  Yes, the last couple of years we have received salary increases(6.4%) but the last time before that was 2000.  Oh wait can anybody tell me how much inflation increases each year....3-4%?   Government wages hardly keep up with inflation in my case.  Although we have different employers I would like to think we share similar values... affordable housing, lower taxes and job security to name a few.  Do I agree with gov. greg... no!  Do I agree with L. Yun... no.   Do I think that housing prices will fall to a more sustainable level....Yes!\r\n\r\nP.S.  The agency I work for actually generates funds(timber) for schools, universities, prisons and other government funded projects.  For example a high school I know of is being built for 25mm but the tax payers in that district only have a bill of 16mm the rest is being picked up by the agency I work for.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point redmondjp government employee&#8217;s probably are a little more comfortable when the economy is slow, but we are still vulnerable.  In my case I started working for state government after obtaining my bachelor&#8217;s, and the salary they offered me was just under 30K and has not raised much since then(wow good thing I went to college).  Yes, the last couple of years we have received salary increases(6.4%) but the last time before that was 2000.  Oh wait can anybody tell me how much inflation increases each year&#8230;.3-4%?   Government wages hardly keep up with inflation in my case.  Although we have different employers I would like to think we share similar values&#8230; affordable housing, lower taxes and job security to name a few.  Do I agree with gov. greg&#8230; no!  Do I agree with L. Yun&#8230; no.   Do I think that housing prices will fall to a more sustainable level&#8230;.Yes!</p>
<p>P.S.  The agency I work for actually generates funds(timber) for schools, universities, prisons and other government funded projects.  For example a high school I know of is being built for 25mm but the tax payers in that district only have a bill of 16mm the rest is being picked up by the agency I work for.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40304','wldlndff',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40304','wldlndff','Good point redmondjp government employee\'s probably are a little more comfortable when the economy is slow, but we are still vulnerable.  In my case I started working for state government after obtaining my bachelor\'s, and the salary they offered me was just under 30K and has not raised much since then(wow good thing I went to college).  Yes, the last couple of years we have received salary increases(6.4%) but the last time before that was 2000.  Oh wait can anybody tell me how much inflation increases each year....3-4%?   Government wages hardly keep up with inflation in my case.  Although we have different employers I would like to think we share similar values... affordable housing, lower taxes and job security to name a few.  Do I agree with gov. greg... no!  Do I agree with L. Yun... no.   Do I think that housing prices will fall to a more sustainable level....Yes!\r\n\r\nP.S.  The agency I work for actually generates funds(timber) for schools, universities, prisons and other government funded projects.  For example a high school I know of is being built for 25mm but the tax payers in that district only have a bill of 16mm the rest is being picked up by the agency I work for.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: redmondjp</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40267</link>
		<dc:creator>redmondjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it.  The economy is doing just fine until YOU lose your job.  Then times are bad!  How many gov&#039;t workers do you see around the Seattle area worried about getting laid off?  I live in Redmond and just read the city council meeting minutes from the end of last year--hey, all of the union AND exempt workers at the city got their automatic annual cost-of-living increases, now did you?

I sure as he** didn&#039;t!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40267&#039;,&#039;redmondjp&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40267&#039;,&#039;redmondjp&#039;,&#039;Let\&#039;s face it.  The economy is doing just fine until YOU lose your job.  Then times are bad!  How many gov\&#039;t workers do you see around the Seattle area worried about getting laid off?  I live in Redmond and just read the city council meeting minutes from the end of last year--hey, all of the union AND exempt workers at the city got their automatic annual cost-of-living increases, now did you?\r\n\r\nI sure as he** didn\&#039;t!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it.  The economy is doing just fine until YOU lose your job.  Then times are bad!  How many gov&#8217;t workers do you see around the Seattle area worried about getting laid off?  I live in Redmond and just read the city council meeting minutes from the end of last year&#8211;hey, all of the union AND exempt workers at the city got their automatic annual cost-of-living increases, now did you?</p>
<p>I sure as he** didn&#8217;t!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40267','redmondjp',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40267','redmondjp','Let\'s face it.  The economy is doing just fine until YOU lose your job.  Then times are bad!  How many gov\'t workers do you see around the Seattle area worried about getting laid off?  I live in Redmond and just read the city council meeting minutes from the end of last year--hey, all of the union AND exempt workers at the city got their automatic annual cost-of-living increases, now did you?\r\n\r\nI sure as he** didn\'t!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: greenthum</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40264</link>
		<dc:creator>greenthum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregiore&#039;s &quot;no bad news&quot;  assessment of Washington State&#039;s economy is ridiculous! She doesn&#039;t dare let on that there&#039;s trouble brewing otherwise the citizens might start demanding lower taxes and smaller government.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40264&#039;,&#039;greenthum&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40264&#039;,&#039;greenthum&#039;,&#039;Gregiore\&#039;s \&quot;no bad news\&quot;  assessment of Washington State\&#039;s economy is ridiculous! She doesn\&#039;t dare let on that there\&#039;s trouble brewing otherwise the citizens might start demanding lower taxes and smaller government.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregiore&#8217;s &#8220;no bad news&#8221;  assessment of Washington State&#8217;s economy is ridiculous! She doesn&#8217;t dare let on that there&#8217;s trouble brewing otherwise the citizens might start demanding lower taxes and smaller government.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40264','greenthum',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40264','greenthum','Gregiore\'s \&quot;no bad news\&quot;  assessment of Washington State\'s economy is ridiculous! She doesn\'t dare let on that there\'s trouble brewing otherwise the citizens might start demanding lower taxes and smaller government.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: AndySeattle</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40258</link>
		<dc:creator>AndySeattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for positive mental attitude but The Tim brings a good point... Let&#039;s be realistic ; a storm is coming.

To Gregiore, if she really wants to be positive she should be introducing methods to spur growth through the recession. Instead of preparing for a wind storm by tying everything down, why not prepare for a financial storm through calculated risk and growth? Her denial brings far more risk than at least attempting to something different.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40258&#039;,&#039;AndySeattle&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40258&#039;,&#039;AndySeattle&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m all for positive mental attitude but The Tim brings a good point... Let\&#039;s be realistic ; a storm is coming.\r\n\r\nTo Gregiore, if she really wants to be positive she should be introducing methods to spur growth through the recession. Instead of preparing for a wind storm by tying everything down, why not prepare for a financial storm through calculated risk and growth? Her denial brings far more risk than at least attempting to something different.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for positive mental attitude but The Tim brings a good point&#8230; Let&#8217;s be realistic ; a storm is coming.</p>
<p>To Gregiore, if she really wants to be positive she should be introducing methods to spur growth through the recession. Instead of preparing for a wind storm by tying everything down, why not prepare for a financial storm through calculated risk and growth? Her denial brings far more risk than at least attempting to something different.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40258','AndySeattle',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40258','AndySeattle','I\'m all for positive mental attitude but The Tim brings a good point... Let\'s be realistic ; a storm is coming.\r\n\r\nTo Gregiore, if she really wants to be positive she should be introducing methods to spur growth through the recession. Instead of preparing for a wind storm by tying everything down, why not prepare for a financial storm through calculated risk and growth? Her denial brings far more risk than at least attempting to something different.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike2</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40256</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for comparison, Northern Virginia (part of one of the &quot;green&quot; states on the map) has an unemployment rate sub 2% - but the counties are running a major budget shortfall and housing prices are sliding hard despite having the highest median incomes in the country.  

...then there&#039;s Seattle.  At least the housing market there hasn&#039;t crashed yet.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40256&#039;,&#039;Mike2&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40256&#039;,&#039;Mike2&#039;,&#039;Just for comparison, Northern Virginia (part of one of the \&quot;green\&quot; states on the map) has an unemployment rate sub 2% - but the counties are running a major budget shortfall and housing prices are sliding hard despite having the highest median incomes in the country.  \r\n\r\n...then there\&#039;s Seattle.  At least the housing market there hasn\&#039;t crashed yet.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for comparison, Northern Virginia (part of one of the &#8220;green&#8221; states on the map) has an unemployment rate sub 2% &#8211; but the counties are running a major budget shortfall and housing prices are sliding hard despite having the highest median incomes in the country.  </p>
<p>&#8230;then there&#8217;s Seattle.  At least the housing market there hasn&#8217;t crashed yet.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40256','Mike2',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40256','Mike2','Just for comparison, Northern Virginia (part of one of the \&quot;green\&quot; states on the map) has an unemployment rate sub 2% - but the counties are running a major budget shortfall and housing prices are sliding hard despite having the highest median incomes in the country.  \r\n\r\n...then there\'s Seattle.  At least the housing market there hasn\'t crashed yet.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: softwarengineer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40255</link>
		<dc:creator>softwarengineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT REMINDS ME OF AN OSTRIDGE WITH ITS HEAD IN THE GROUND

The world is going to pot all around, but if if I&#039;m in denial, its not that bad at all.

I&#039;d add, none of the Dem/Rep politicians (Governor, Senator, Congressman or President) offer pragmatic specific solutions during their campaigns.

Maybe that&#039;s how they got picked by the dumbed down elite?

Examples:

Overpopulation
Clogged Freeways
Water Shortages
Crumbling Bridges
Dumbed Down Public Schools
Out-sourced Manufacturing
Imported and Tainted Food
Massive Service Economy Layoffs

Etc, etc, etc.....of course the root cause of all this unanswered mess is overpopulation making it worse....but God forbid we offer pragmatic solutions during a hotair political campaign!!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40255&#039;,&#039;softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40255&#039;,&#039;softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;IT REMINDS ME OF AN OSTRIDGE WITH ITS HEAD IN THE GROUND\r\n\r\nThe world is going to pot all around, but if if I\&#039;m in denial, its not that bad at all.\r\n\r\nI\&#039;d add, none of the Dem\/Rep politicians (Governor, Senator, Congressman or President) offer pragmatic specific solutions during their campaigns.\r\n\r\nMaybe that\&#039;s how they got picked by the dumbed down elite?\r\n\r\nExamples:\r\n\r\nOverpopulation\r\nClogged Freeways\r\nWater Shortages\r\nCrumbling Bridges\r\nDumbed Down Public Schools\r\nOut-sourced Manufacturing\r\nImported and Tainted Food\r\nMassive Service Economy Layoffs\r\n\r\nEtc, etc, etc.....of course the root cause of all this unanswered mess is overpopulation making it worse....but God forbid we offer pragmatic solutions during a hotair political campaign!!!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT REMINDS ME OF AN OSTRIDGE WITH ITS HEAD IN THE GROUND</p>
<p>The world is going to pot all around, but if if I&#8217;m in denial, its not that bad at all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add, none of the Dem/Rep politicians (Governor, Senator, Congressman or President) offer pragmatic specific solutions during their campaigns.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s how they got picked by the dumbed down elite?</p>
<p>Examples:</p>
<p>Overpopulation<br />
Clogged Freeways<br />
Water Shortages<br />
Crumbling Bridges<br />
Dumbed Down Public Schools<br />
Out-sourced Manufacturing<br />
Imported and Tainted Food<br />
Massive Service Economy Layoffs</p>
<p>Etc, etc, etc&#8230;..of course the root cause of all this unanswered mess is overpopulation making it worse&#8230;.but God forbid we offer pragmatic solutions during a hotair political campaign!!!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40255','softwarengineer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40255','softwarengineer','IT REMINDS ME OF AN OSTRIDGE WITH ITS HEAD IN THE GROUND\r\n\r\nThe world is going to pot all around, but if if I\'m in denial, its not that bad at all.\r\n\r\nI\'d add, none of the Dem\/Rep politicians (Governor, Senator, Congressman or President) offer pragmatic specific solutions during their campaigns.\r\n\r\nMaybe that\'s how they got picked by the dumbed down elite?\r\n\r\nExamples:\r\n\r\nOverpopulation\r\nClogged Freeways\r\nWater Shortages\r\nCrumbling Bridges\r\nDumbed Down Public Schools\r\nOut-sourced Manufacturing\r\nImported and Tainted Food\r\nMassive Service Economy Layoffs\r\n\r\nEtc, etc, etc.....of course the root cause of all this unanswered mess is overpopulation making it worse....but God forbid we offer pragmatic solutions during a hotair political campaign!!!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40254</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point to be made about the map.  Tim - welcome to the world of liability, slander, copywrite infringemnet and liable.  Do you have an lawyer yet? Since now you will be making money, you now have a target on your back.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40254&#039;,&#039;Dave&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40254&#039;,&#039;Dave&#039;,&#039;Good point to be made about the map.  Tim - welcome to the world of liability, slander, copywrite infringemnet and liable.  Do you have an lawyer yet? Since now you will be making money, you now have a target on your back.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point to be made about the map.  Tim &#8211; welcome to the world of liability, slander, copywrite infringemnet and liable.  Do you have an lawyer yet? Since now you will be making money, you now have a target on your back.
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		<title>By: The Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40253</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no lawyer, but I&#039;m pretty sure the usage of the graphic on a blog like this, for-profit or not, falls under &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fair use&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://w2.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-ip.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a page from the EFF&lt;/a&gt; that addresses issues like these.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40253&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40253&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m no lawyer, but I\&#039;m pretty sure the usage of the graphic on a blog like this, for-profit or not, falls under &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fair_use\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;fair use&lt;\/a&gt;.\r\n\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/w2.eff.org\/bloggers\/lg\/faq-ip.php\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Here\&#039;s a page from the EFF&lt;\/a&gt; that addresses issues like these.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no lawyer, but I&#8217;m pretty sure the usage of the graphic on a blog like this, for-profit or not, falls under <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use" rel="nofollow">fair use</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://w2.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-ip.php" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a page from the EFF</a> that addresses issues like these.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40253','The Tim',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40253','The Tim','I\'m no lawyer, but I\'m pretty sure the usage of the graphic on a blog like this, for-profit or not, falls under &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fair_use\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;fair use&lt;\/a&gt;.\r\n\r\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/w2.eff.org\/bloggers\/lg\/faq-ip.php\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Here\'s a page from the EFF&lt;\/a&gt; that addresses issues like these.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ira Sacharoff</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40252</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira Sacharoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with positive thinking, but this akin to the Governor asking all of Washington&#039;s citizens to all join hands and sing &quot;kumbaya&#039;, or that we all pray in unison to destroy Osama bin laden.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40252&#039;,&#039;Ira Sacharoff&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40252&#039;,&#039;Ira Sacharoff&#039;,&#039;There\&#039;s nothing wrong with positive thinking, but this akin to the Governor asking all of Washington\&#039;s citizens to all join hands and sing \&quot;kumbaya\&#039;, or that we all pray in unison to destroy Osama bin laden.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with positive thinking, but this akin to the Governor asking all of Washington&#8217;s citizens to all join hands and sing &#8220;kumbaya&#8217;, or that we all pray in unison to destroy Osama bin laden.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40252','Ira Sacharoff',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40252','Ira Sacharoff','There\'s nothing wrong with positive thinking, but this akin to the Governor asking all of Washington\'s citizens to all join hands and sing \&quot;kumbaya\', or that we all pray in unison to destroy Osama bin laden.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: DoRulesApplyToMe</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40251</link>
		<dc:creator>DoRulesApplyToMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the bottom of &quot;The Economist&quot; web page I see:

&quot;Copyright © The Economist Newspaper Limited 2008. All rights reserved.&quot;

Does this web page have an agreement with &quot;The Economist&quot;  to use the slick map which obviously took them some time to produce?

Because now that this is a &quot;for profit&quot; web page, doing so without permission can be consequential.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40251&#039;,&#039;DoRulesApplyToMe&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40251&#039;,&#039;DoRulesApplyToMe&#039;,&#039;At the bottom of \&quot;The Economist\&quot; web page I see:\r\n\r\n\&quot;Copyright &#194;&#169; The Economist Newspaper Limited 2008. All rights reserved.\&quot;\r\n\r\nDoes this web page have an agreement with \&quot;The Economist\&quot;  to use the slick map which obviously took them some time to produce?\r\n\r\nBecause now that this is a \&quot;for profit\&quot; web page, doing so without permission can be consequential.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the bottom of &#8220;The Economist&#8221; web page I see:</p>
<p>&#8220;Copyright © The Economist Newspaper Limited 2008. All rights reserved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this web page have an agreement with &#8220;The Economist&#8221;  to use the slick map which obviously took them some time to produce?</p>
<p>Because now that this is a &#8220;for profit&#8221; web page, doing so without permission can be consequential.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40251','DoRulesApplyToMe',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40251','DoRulesApplyToMe','At the bottom of \&quot;The Economist\&quot; web page I see:\r\n\r\n\&quot;Copyright &Acirc;&copy; The Economist Newspaper Limited 2008. All rights reserved.\&quot;\r\n\r\nDoes this web page have an agreement with \&quot;The Economist\&quot;  to use the slick map which obviously took them some time to produce?\r\n\r\nBecause now that this is a \&quot;for profit\&quot; web page, doing so without permission can be consequential.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: patient</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40249</link>
		<dc:creator>patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ira, probably the same reason as the realtors. Short term thinking and fear for what happens when the market tanks. The problem is that this market can&#039;t be saved by talk or positive thinking. It has fundamental and very real issues. To prop it up now is like raising the platform you inevitable need to jump from. The landing is going to hurt even more.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40249&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40249&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;Ira, probably the same reason as the realtors. Short term thinking and fear for what happens when the market tanks. The problem is that this market can\&#039;t be saved by talk or positive thinking. It has fundamental and very real issues. To prop it up now is like raising the platform you inevitable need to jump from. The landing is going to hurt even more.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ira, probably the same reason as the realtors. Short term thinking and fear for what happens when the market tanks. The problem is that this market can&#8217;t be saved by talk or positive thinking. It has fundamental and very real issues. To prop it up now is like raising the platform you inevitable need to jump from. The landing is going to hurt even more.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40249','patient',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40249','patient','Ira, probably the same reason as the realtors. Short term thinking and fear for what happens when the market tanks. The problem is that this market can\'t be saved by talk or positive thinking. It has fundamental and very real issues. To prop it up now is like raising the platform you inevitable need to jump from. The landing is going to hurt even more.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ira Sacharoff</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40248</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira Sacharoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t get it why Gregoire needs to say these things? Is she trying to get the endorsement of the Board of Realtors?
Yes, unemployment may be a bit lower here, and yes, home prices here have not dropped as much as some other places, but it doesn&#039;t give me a lot of confidence knowing that our governor refuses to see reality.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40248&#039;,&#039;Ira Sacharoff&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40248&#039;,&#039;Ira Sacharoff&#039;,&#039;I just don\&#039;t get it why Gregoire needs to say these things? Is she trying to get the endorsement of the Board of Realtors?\r\nYes, unemployment may be a bit lower here, and yes, home prices here have not dropped as much as some other places, but it doesn\&#039;t give me a lot of confidence knowing that our governor refuses to see reality.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t get it why Gregoire needs to say these things? Is she trying to get the endorsement of the Board of Realtors?<br />
Yes, unemployment may be a bit lower here, and yes, home prices here have not dropped as much as some other places, but it doesn&#8217;t give me a lot of confidence knowing that our governor refuses to see reality.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40248','Ira Sacharoff',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40248','Ira Sacharoff','I just don\'t get it why Gregoire needs to say these things? Is she trying to get the endorsement of the Board of Realtors?\r\nYes, unemployment may be a bit lower here, and yes, home prices here have not dropped as much as some other places, but it doesn\'t give me a lot of confidence knowing that our governor refuses to see reality.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: patient</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40247</link>
		<dc:creator>patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Glenn Kelman at Redfin has understood the enormous opportunity he is given on a silverplate by the traditonal re-industry here by not only adding transparency with things like sale and listing history but also predicting the inevitable price decline. This will set Redfin apart as being credible and consumer friendly.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40247&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40247&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;I think Glenn Kelman at Redfin has understood the enormous opportunity he is given on a silverplate by the traditonal re-industry here by not only adding transparency with things like sale and listing history but also predicting the inevitable price decline. This will set Redfin apart as being credible and consumer friendly.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Glenn Kelman at Redfin has understood the enormous opportunity he is given on a silverplate by the traditonal re-industry here by not only adding transparency with things like sale and listing history but also predicting the inevitable price decline. This will set Redfin apart as being credible and consumer friendly.
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		<title>By: patient</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40246</link>
		<dc:creator>patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty frightening how the gap between market reality and the spin and propaganda from politiicans and the re-industry exponentially widens as reality becomes more dire. It exposes an industry and web of lobbyist. If you wonder how otherwise sane people could be lured into the mortgage mess look no further. Also check out Ben Jones&#039;s blog today. Statements of a Seattle market bottom and that we are underpriced. Lawrence Yun is on it with the superstar card again. At the same time back in the land of reality we continue to grow KC SFH inventory by about 40 units a day. One thing is for sure, before this is over the re-industry is going to have zero credibility with anyone.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40246&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40246&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;It\&#039;s pretty frightening how the gap between market reality and the spin and propaganda from politiicans and the re-industry exponentially widens as reality becomes more dire. It exposes an industry and web of lobbyist. If you wonder how otherwise sane people could be lured into the mortgage mess look no further. Also check out Ben Jones\&#039;s blog today. Statements of a Seattle market bottom and that we are underpriced. Lawrence Yun is on it with the superstar card again. At the same time back in the land of reality we continue to grow KC SFH inventory by about 40 units a day. One thing is for sure, before this is over the re-industry is going to have zero credibility with anyone.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty frightening how the gap between market reality and the spin and propaganda from politiicans and the re-industry exponentially widens as reality becomes more dire. It exposes an industry and web of lobbyist. If you wonder how otherwise sane people could be lured into the mortgage mess look no further. Also check out Ben Jones&#8217;s blog today. Statements of a Seattle market bottom and that we are underpriced. Lawrence Yun is on it with the superstar card again. At the same time back in the land of reality we continue to grow KC SFH inventory by about 40 units a day. One thing is for sure, before this is over the re-industry is going to have zero credibility with anyone.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40246','patient',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40246','patient','It\'s pretty frightening how the gap between market reality and the spin and propaganda from politiicans and the re-industry exponentially widens as reality becomes more dire. It exposes an industry and web of lobbyist. If you wonder how otherwise sane people could be lured into the mortgage mess look no further. Also check out Ben Jones\'s blog today. Statements of a Seattle market bottom and that we are underpriced. Lawrence Yun is on it with the superstar card again. At the same time back in the land of reality we continue to grow KC SFH inventory by about 40 units a day. One thing is for sure, before this is over the re-industry is going to have zero credibility with anyone.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Thaxter</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40244</link>
		<dc:creator>Thaxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable article! A  must read.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/350520_superstar08.html

Lawrence Yun says Seattle homes are underpriced, and that the typical worker here making $47K per year can easily afford the median home price! 

Un friggin believable!!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40244&#039;,&#039;Thaxter&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40244&#039;,&#039;Thaxter&#039;,&#039;Unbelievable article! A  must read.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/seattlepi.nwsource.com\/local\/350520_superstar08.html\r\n\r\nLawrence Yun says Seattle homes are underpriced, and that the typical worker here making $47K per year can easily afford the median home price! \r\n\r\nUn friggin believable!!!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable article! A  must read.</p>
<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/350520_superstar08.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/350520_superstar08.html</a></p>
<p>Lawrence Yun says Seattle homes are underpriced, and that the typical worker here making $47K per year can easily afford the median home price! </p>
<p>Un friggin believable!!!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40244','Thaxter',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40244','Thaxter','Unbelievable article! A  must read.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/seattlepi.nwsource.com\/local\/350520_superstar08.html\r\n\r\nLawrence Yun says Seattle homes are underpriced, and that the typical worker here making $47K per year can easily afford the median home price! \r\n\r\nUn friggin believable!!!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: vboring</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40243</link>
		<dc:creator>vboring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what if she said something closer to:

&quot;we can see uncertainty in the national economic landscape, but we are confident that innovative Washington businesses will help us pull through. meanwhile, we are having a look at the budget and preparing for possible difficulties to ensure that services will not be disrupted, not matter what happens&quot;

i don&#039;t care what the governor thinks of the local economy. she is not an economist, so why should i? i do care what she is doing or thinking about doing with the state budget, services, and taxes.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40243&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40243&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;what if she said something closer to:\r\n\r\n\&quot;we can see uncertainty in the national economic landscape, but we are confident that innovative Washington businesses will help us pull through. meanwhile, we are having a look at the budget and preparing for possible difficulties to ensure that services will not be disrupted, not matter what happens\&quot;\r\n\r\ni don\&#039;t care what the governor thinks of the local economy. she is not an economist, so why should i? i do care what she is doing or thinking about doing with the state budget, services, and taxes.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if she said something closer to:</p>
<p>&#8220;we can see uncertainty in the national economic landscape, but we are confident that innovative Washington businesses will help us pull through. meanwhile, we are having a look at the budget and preparing for possible difficulties to ensure that services will not be disrupted, not matter what happens&#8221;</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t care what the governor thinks of the local economy. she is not an economist, so why should i? i do care what she is doing or thinking about doing with the state budget, services, and taxes.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40243','vboring',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40243','vboring','what if she said something closer to:\r\n\r\n\&quot;we can see uncertainty in the national economic landscape, but we are confident that innovative Washington businesses will help us pull through. meanwhile, we are having a look at the budget and preparing for possible difficulties to ensure that services will not be disrupted, not matter what happens\&quot;\r\n\r\ni don\'t care what the governor thinks of the local economy. she is not an economist, so why should i? i do care what she is doing or thinking about doing with the state budget, services, and taxes.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Markor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregoire is right except for the &quot;don&#039;t listen to it&quot; part. A recession, at least the severity of it, can indeed be a self-fulfilling prophecy. No reason not to pay attention though.

Most of the states having lower unemployment than WA likely pay a lot closer to minimum wage. The unemployed in WA need to hold out for higher wages.

Starbucks coffee sucks. McDonalds coffee, which locally is Seattle&#039;s Best Coffee (owned by Starbucks!), is superior. I agree, when it&#039;s pushbutton, why pay more? Tully&#039;s is pretty good; I hope they survive. Fortunately there are some mom &amp; pop places that serve the real thing.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40239&#039;,&#039;Markor&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40239&#039;,&#039;Markor&#039;,&#039;Gregoire is right except for the \&quot;don\&#039;t listen to it\&quot; part. A recession, at least the severity of it, can indeed be a self-fulfilling prophecy. No reason not to pay attention though.\r\n\r\nMost of the states having lower unemployment than WA likely pay a lot closer to minimum wage. The unemployed in WA need to hold out for higher wages.\r\n\r\nStarbucks coffee sucks. McDonalds coffee, which locally is Seattle\&#039;s Best Coffee (owned by Starbucks!), is superior. I agree, when it\&#039;s pushbutton, why pay more? Tully\&#039;s is pretty good; I hope they survive. Fortunately there are some mom &amp; pop places that serve the real thing.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregoire is right except for the &#8220;don&#8217;t listen to it&#8221; part. A recession, at least the severity of it, can indeed be a self-fulfilling prophecy. No reason not to pay attention though.</p>
<p>Most of the states having lower unemployment than WA likely pay a lot closer to minimum wage. The unemployed in WA need to hold out for higher wages.</p>
<p>Starbucks coffee sucks. McDonalds coffee, which locally is Seattle&#8217;s Best Coffee (owned by Starbucks!), is superior. I agree, when it&#8217;s pushbutton, why pay more? Tully&#8217;s is pretty good; I hope they survive. Fortunately there are some mom &amp; pop places that serve the real thing.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40239','Markor',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40239','Markor','Gregoire is right except for the \&quot;don\'t listen to it\&quot; part. A recession, at least the severity of it, can indeed be a self-fulfilling prophecy. No reason not to pay attention though.\r\n\r\nMost of the states having lower unemployment than WA likely pay a lot closer to minimum wage. The unemployed in WA need to hold out for higher wages.\r\n\r\nStarbucks coffee sucks. McDonalds coffee, which locally is Seattle\'s Best Coffee (owned by Starbucks!), is superior. I agree, when it\'s pushbutton, why pay more? Tully\'s is pretty good; I hope they survive. Fortunately there are some mom &amp;amp; pop places that serve the real thing.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: The Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40238</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave some examples in the post of the kinds of things she could say that would demonstrate good leadership.  IMO, just because this is the standard MO for politicians doesn&#039;t mean we should all be cool with it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40238&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40238&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;I gave some examples in the post of the kinds of things she could say that would demonstrate good leadership.  IMO, just because this is the standard MO for politicians doesn\&#039;t mean we should all be cool with it.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave some examples in the post of the kinds of things she could say that would demonstrate good leadership.  IMO, just because this is the standard MO for politicians doesn&#8217;t mean we should all be cool with it.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40238','The Tim',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40238','The Tim','I gave some examples in the post of the kinds of things she could say that would demonstrate good leadership.  IMO, just because this is the standard MO for politicians doesn\'t mean we should all be cool with it.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: old_B</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40236</link>
		<dc:creator>old_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is she supposed to say, &quot;Attention citizens, we&#039;re F&#039;ed, and MSFT, SBUX, and Boeing aren&#039;t going to save our asses&quot;?

I think this is straight out of playbook for any politician. I guess I don&#039;t get the outrage.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40236&#039;,&#039;old_B&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40236&#039;,&#039;old_B&#039;,&#039;What is she supposed to say, \&quot;Attention citizens, we\&#039;re F\&#039;ed, and MSFT, SBUX, and Boeing aren\&#039;t going to save our asses\&quot;?\r\n\r\nI think this is straight out of playbook for any politician. I guess I don\&#039;t get the outrage.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is she supposed to say, &#8220;Attention citizens, we&#8217;re F&#8217;ed, and MSFT, SBUX, and Boeing aren&#8217;t going to save our asses&#8221;?</p>
<p>I think this is straight out of playbook for any politician. I guess I don&#8217;t get the outrage.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40236','old_B',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40236','old_B','What is she supposed to say, \&quot;Attention citizens, we\'re F\'ed, and MSFT, SBUX, and Boeing aren\'t going to save our asses\&quot;?\r\n\r\nI think this is straight out of playbook for any politician. I guess I don\'t get the outrage.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: vboring</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40234</link>
		<dc:creator>vboring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good thing the local economy isn&#039;t closely tied to discretionary purchases that are likely to be sacrificed during a recession, like travel, new computers, and $5 coffees

when MSFT spends all of their cash to buy Yahoo, then sees a bad quarter or two b/c of declining new computer sales, reduced IT department upgrades to Office, a saturated mp3 player market, and a slower gaming console market, there could be layoffs, or at least slower hiring.

boeing&#039;s exposure is obvious. when business slows, business travelers travel less, and recessions lead to cheaper more local vacations. both are obviously bad for new airplane sales.

and starbucks has run it&#039;s course. the $5 coffee was a great idea, but now everybody offers them, so why go to starbucks? they use push-button machines just like McDonalds does, so there is no product differentiation that i can see.

so, who exactly is it that thinks we have an impervious local economy?

other than our delusional Governor.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40234&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40234&#039;,&#039;vboring&#039;,&#039;good thing the local economy isn\&#039;t closely tied to discretionary purchases that are likely to be sacrificed during a recession, like travel, new computers, and $5 coffees\r\n\r\nwhen MSFT spends all of their cash to buy Yahoo, then sees a bad quarter or two b\/c of declining new computer sales, reduced IT department upgrades to Office, a saturated mp3 player market, and a slower gaming console market, there could be layoffs, or at least slower hiring.\r\n\r\nboeing\&#039;s exposure is obvious. when business slows, business travelers travel less, and recessions lead to cheaper more local vacations. both are obviously bad for new airplane sales.\r\n\r\nand starbucks has run it\&#039;s course. the $5 coffee was a great idea, but now everybody offers them, so why go to starbucks? they use push-button machines just like McDonalds does, so there is no product differentiation that i can see.\r\n\r\nso, who exactly is it that thinks we have an impervious local economy?\r\n\r\nother than our delusional Governor.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good thing the local economy isn&#8217;t closely tied to discretionary purchases that are likely to be sacrificed during a recession, like travel, new computers, and $5 coffees</p>
<p>when MSFT spends all of their cash to buy Yahoo, then sees a bad quarter or two b/c of declining new computer sales, reduced IT department upgrades to Office, a saturated mp3 player market, and a slower gaming console market, there could be layoffs, or at least slower hiring.</p>
<p>boeing&#8217;s exposure is obvious. when business slows, business travelers travel less, and recessions lead to cheaper more local vacations. both are obviously bad for new airplane sales.</p>
<p>and starbucks has run it&#8217;s course. the $5 coffee was a great idea, but now everybody offers them, so why go to starbucks? they use push-button machines just like McDonalds does, so there is no product differentiation that i can see.</p>
<p>so, who exactly is it that thinks we have an impervious local economy?</p>
<p>other than our delusional Governor.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40234','vboring',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40234','vboring','good thing the local economy isn\'t closely tied to discretionary purchases that are likely to be sacrificed during a recession, like travel, new computers, and $5 coffees\r\n\r\nwhen MSFT spends all of their cash to buy Yahoo, then sees a bad quarter or two b\/c of declining new computer sales, reduced IT department upgrades to Office, a saturated mp3 player market, and a slower gaming console market, there could be layoffs, or at least slower hiring.\r\n\r\nboeing\'s exposure is obvious. when business slows, business travelers travel less, and recessions lead to cheaper more local vacations. both are obviously bad for new airplane sales.\r\n\r\nand starbucks has run it\'s course. the $5 coffee was a great idea, but now everybody offers them, so why go to starbucks? they use push-button machines just like McDonalds does, so there is no product differentiation that i can see.\r\n\r\nso, who exactly is it that thinks we have an impervious local economy?\r\n\r\nother than our delusional Governor.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: rose-colored-coolaid</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40233</link>
		<dc:creator>rose-colored-coolaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on the sentiment that denial does not help the situation.  How would people feel if a new computer virus was released, and the MSFT press release pointed out that the USA is still the envy of literally every other country in the world and therefore they had no plans to patch XP/Vista?  Or what if a plane crashed on take-off and Boeing announced the only risk is if people start to worry about airline safety, and the best way to prevent that is by inaction.

And yet, this sentiment, which would be shouted down if presented by any true professionals is seen as &#039;strong leadership&#039; when it comes from politicians.  UGH!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40233&#039;,&#039;rose-colored-coolaid&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40233&#039;,&#039;rose-colored-coolaid&#039;,&#039;Agreed on the sentiment that denial does not help the situation.  How would people feel if a new computer virus was released, and the MSFT press release pointed out that the USA is still the envy of literally every other country in the world and therefore they had no plans to patch XP\/Vista?  Or what if a plane crashed on take-off and Boeing announced the only risk is if people start to worry about airline safety, and the best way to prevent that is by inaction.\r\n\r\nAnd yet, this sentiment, which would be shouted down if presented by any true professionals is seen as \&#039;strong leadership\&#039; when it comes from politicians.  UGH!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on the sentiment that denial does not help the situation.  How would people feel if a new computer virus was released, and the MSFT press release pointed out that the USA is still the envy of literally every other country in the world and therefore they had no plans to patch XP/Vista?  Or what if a plane crashed on take-off and Boeing announced the only risk is if people start to worry about airline safety, and the best way to prevent that is by inaction.</p>
<p>And yet, this sentiment, which would be shouted down if presented by any true professionals is seen as &#8217;strong leadership&#8217; when it comes from politicians.  UGH!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40233','rose-colored-coolaid',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40233','rose-colored-coolaid','Agreed on the sentiment that denial does not help the situation.  How would people feel if a new computer virus was released, and the MSFT press release pointed out that the USA is still the envy of literally every other country in the world and therefore they had no plans to patch XP\/Vista?  Or what if a plane crashed on take-off and Boeing announced the only risk is if people start to worry about airline safety, and the best way to prevent that is by inaction.\r\n\r\nAnd yet, this sentiment, which would be shouted down if presented by any true professionals is seen as \'strong leadership\' when it comes from politicians.  UGH!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: The Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40232</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great find, one.person.  I&#039;ve updated the post with that map, as it&#039;s quite relevant.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40232&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40232&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;Great find, one.person.  I\&#039;ve updated the post with that map, as it\&#039;s quite relevant.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great find, one.person.  I&#8217;ve updated the post with that map, as it&#8217;s quite relevant.
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		<title>By: one.person</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/08/gregoire-dont-buy-into-the-self-fulfilling-dire-talk/#comment-40230</link>
		<dc:creator>one.person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we really the envy of other states?  We certainly look better than some, but not the best.

Not sure how long this link will last, but it makes for interesting reading nonetheless

From the Economist: The geography of recession

http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10650727&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;40230&#039;,&#039;one.person&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;40230&#039;,&#039;one.person&#039;,&#039;Are we really the envy of other states?  We certainly look better than some, but not the best.\r\n\r\nNot sure how long this link will last, but it makes for interesting reading nonetheless\r\n\r\nFrom the Economist: The geography of recession\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.economist.com\/world\/na\/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10650727&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we really the envy of other states?  We certainly look better than some, but not the best.</p>
<p>Not sure how long this link will last, but it makes for interesting reading nonetheless</p>
<p>From the Economist: The geography of recession</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10650727" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10650727</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('40230','one.person',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('40230','one.person','Are we really the envy of other states?  We certainly look better than some, but not the best.\r\n\r\nNot sure how long this link will last, but it makes for interesting reading nonetheless\r\n\r\nFrom the Economist: The geography of recession\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.economist.com\/world\/na\/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10650727',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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