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> <channel><title>Comments on: Independence Day Open Thread</title> <atom:link href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/04/independence-day-open-thread/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/04/independence-day-open-thread/</link> <description>local real estate news, statistics, and commentary without the sales spin.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:50:20 -0700</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: TJ_98370</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/04/independence-day-open-thread/#comment-51255</link> <dc:creator>TJ_98370</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:41:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51255</guid> <description>Eleua says:&lt;i&gt;TJ is correct.&lt;/i&gt;Woohoooo! I win! I win the secret prize!I&#039;ll send my address via e-mail for delivery of my very own PINK PONY! I will be the envy of every insane person on my block! Wooohooooo!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51255&#039;,&#039;TJ_98370&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51255&#039;,&#039;TJ_98370&#039;,&#039;Eleua says:\r\n\r\n&lt;i&gt;TJ is correct.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nWoohoooo! I win! I win the secret prize!\r\n\r\nI\&#039;ll send my address via e-mail for delivery of my very own PINK PONY! I will be the envy of every insane person on my block! Wooohooooo!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleua says:</p><p><i>TJ is correct.</i></p><p>Woohoooo! I win! I win the secret prize!</p><p>I&#8217;ll send my address via e-mail for delivery of my very own PINK PONY! I will be the envy of every insane person on my block! Wooohooooo!<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51245</guid> <description>http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/account/acc3.htmAccord to Thomas Jefferson, &quot;The debates having taken up the greater parts of the 2d 3d &amp; 4th days of July were, in the evening of the last, closed the declaration was reported by the committee, agreed to by the house and signed by every member present except Mr. Dickinson.&quot;http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/timeline.htmJuly 1-4 Congress debates and revises the Declaration of Independence.July 2 Congress declares independence as the British fleet and army arrive at New York.July 4 Congress adopts the Declaration of Independence in the morning of a bright, sunny, but cool Philadelphia day. John Dunlap prints the Declaration of Independence. These prints are now called &quot;Dunlap Broadsides.&quot; Twenty-four copies are known to exist, two of which are in the Library of Congress. One of these was Washington&#039;s personal copy.August 2 Delegates begin to sign engrossed copy of the Declaration of Independence. A large British reinforcement arrives at New York after being repelled at Charleston, S.C.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51245&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51245&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;http:\/\/www.ushistory.org\/Declaration\/account\/acc3.htm\r\n\r\nAccord to Thomas Jefferson, \&quot;The debates having taken up the greater parts of the 2d 3d &amp; 4th days of July were, in the evening of the last, closed the declaration was reported by the committee, agreed to by the house and signed by every member present except Mr. Dickinson.\&quot; \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.ushistory.org\/declaration\/timeline.htm\r\n\r\nJuly 1-4 Congress debates and revises the Declaration of Independence.\r\n\r\nJuly 2 Congress declares independence as the British fleet and army arrive at New York.\r\n\r\nJuly 4 Congress adopts the Declaration of Independence in the morning of a bright, sunny, but cool Philadelphia day. John Dunlap prints the Declaration of Independence. These prints are now called \&quot;Dunlap Broadsides.\&quot; Twenty-four copies are known to exist, two of which are in the Library of Congress. One of these was Washington\&#039;s personal copy.\r\n\r\nAugust 2 Delegates begin to sign engrossed copy of the Declaration of Independence. A large British reinforcement arrives at New York after being repelled at Charleston, S.C.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/account/acc3.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/account/acc3.htm</a></p><p>Accord to Thomas Jefferson, &#8220;The debates having taken up the greater parts of the 2d 3d &amp; 4th days of July were, in the evening of the last, closed the declaration was reported by the committee, agreed to by the house and signed by every member present except Mr. Dickinson.&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/timeline.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/timeline.htm</a></p><p>July 1-4 Congress debates and revises the Declaration of Independence.</p><p>July 2 Congress declares independence as the British fleet and army arrive at New York.</p><p>July 4 Congress adopts the Declaration of Independence in the morning of a bright, sunny, but cool Philadelphia day. John Dunlap prints the Declaration of Independence. These prints are now called &#8220;Dunlap Broadsides.&#8221; Twenty-four copies are known to exist, two of which are in the Library of Congress. One of these was Washington&#8217;s personal copy.</p><p>August 2 Delegates begin to sign engrossed copy of the Declaration of Independence. A large British reinforcement arrives at New York after being repelled at Charleston, S.C.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('51245','jon','http:\/\/www.ushistory.org\/Declaration\/account\/acc3.htm\r\n\r\nAccord to Thomas Jefferson, \&quot;The debates having taken up the greater parts of the 2d 3d &amp;amp; 4th days of July were, in the evening of the last, closed the declaration was reported by the committee, agreed to by the house and signed by every member present except Mr. Dickinson.\&quot; \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.ushistory.org\/declaration\/timeline.htm\r\n\r\nJuly 1-4 Congress debates and revises the Declaration of Independence.\r\n\r\nJuly 2 Congress declares independence as the British fleet and army arrive at New York.\r\n\r\nJuly 4 Congress adopts the Declaration of Independence in the morning of a bright, sunny, but cool Philadelphia day. John Dunlap prints the Declaration of Independence. These prints are now called \&quot;Dunlap Broadsides.\&quot; Twenty-four copies are known to exist, two of which are in the Library of Congress. One of these was Washington\'s personal copy.\r\n\r\nAugust 2 Delegates begin to sign engrossed copy of the Declaration of Independence. A large British reinforcement arrives at New York after being repelled at Charleston, S.C.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eleua</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/04/independence-day-open-thread/#comment-51243</link> <dc:creator>Eleua</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:39:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51243</guid> <description>4/19/75 - Lexington/Concord
7/4/76 - Traditional DoI date
8/2/76 - Actual DoI date
10/19/81 - Yorktown Surrender of Cornwallis
9/3/83 - Treaty of Paris signed by Great Britain
1/14/84 - Treaty of Paris ratified by Congress
9/17/87 - US Constitution adopted
6/21/88 - Constitution ratified.I say we have fireworks on all these days.  What is your pick for the actual birthdate of the United States?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51243&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51243&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;4\/19\/75 - Lexington\/Concord\r\n7\/4\/76 - Traditional DoI date\r\n8\/2\/76 - Actual DoI date\r\n10\/19\/81 - Yorktown Surrender of Cornwallis\r\n9\/3\/83 - Treaty of Paris signed by Great Britain\r\n1\/14\/84 - Treaty of Paris ratified by Congress\r\n9\/17\/87 - US Constitution adopted\r\n6\/21\/88 - Constitution ratified.\r\n\r\nI say we have fireworks on all these days.  What is your pick for the actual birthdate of the United States?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4/19/75 &#8211; Lexington/Concord<br
/> 7/4/76 &#8211; Traditional DoI date<br
/> 8/2/76 &#8211; Actual DoI date<br
/> 10/19/81 &#8211; Yorktown Surrender of Cornwallis<br
/> 9/3/83 &#8211; Treaty of Paris signed by Great Britain<br
/> 1/14/84 &#8211; Treaty of Paris ratified by Congress<br
/> 9/17/87 &#8211; US Constitution adopted<br
/> 6/21/88 &#8211; Constitution ratified.</p><p>I say we have fireworks on all these days.  What is your pick for the actual birthdate of the United States?<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('51243','Eleua','4\/19\/75 - Lexington\/Concord\r\n7\/4\/76 - Traditional DoI date\r\n8\/2\/76 - Actual DoI date\r\n10\/19\/81 - Yorktown Surrender of Cornwallis\r\n9\/3\/83 - Treaty of Paris signed by Great Britain\r\n1\/14\/84 - Treaty of Paris ratified by Congress\r\n9\/17\/87 - US Constitution adopted\r\n6\/21\/88 - Constitution ratified.\r\n\r\nI say we have fireworks on all these days.  What is your pick for the actual birthdate of the United States?',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eleua</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/04/independence-day-open-thread/#comment-51242</link> <dc:creator>Eleua</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:11:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51242</guid> <description>TJ is correct.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51242&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51242&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;TJ is correct.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ is correct.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51239</guid> <description>Am I right? Am I right?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51239&#039;,&#039;TJ_98370&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51239&#039;,&#039;TJ_98370&#039;,&#039;Am I right? Am I right?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I right? Am I right?<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51237</guid> <description>Eleua - Friday, August 2, 1776.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51237&#039;,&#039;TJ_98370&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51237&#039;,&#039;TJ_98370&#039;,&#039;Eleua - Friday, August 2, 1776.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleua &#8211; Friday, August 2, 1776.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51234</guid> <description>Trivia question:  What day did the majority of signers of the DoI commit their signatures?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51234&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51234&#039;,&#039;Eleua&#039;,&#039;Trivia question:  What day did the majority of signers of the DoI commit their signatures?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trivia question:  What day did the majority of signers of the DoI commit their signatures?<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51229</guid> <description>Me too!  I was in the same boat.   I came here 35 years ago with a few hundred dollars and a luggage of my basic necessity.   I spoke broken English and people teased my accent.   However, I did not whine and complain.  I determined to fulfill my American dream.    Through my hard-work and tenacity, I have become one of the top 2% taxpayers in the country.    My recipe is simple: get a good education; be humble; respect your co-workers; apply yourself; don&#039;t live on credit.I traveled many parts of the world.  I have yet to find a place that is better than here.  Yes, we have encountered countless problems in the past.   However, we have the best ship to sail through the storm each time.   GOD BLESS AMERICA!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51229&#039;,&#039;Richard&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51229&#039;,&#039;Richard&#039;,&#039;Me too!  I was in the same boat.   I came here 35 years ago with a few hundred dollars and a luggage of my basic necessity.   I spoke broken English and people teased my accent.   However, I did not whine and complain.  I determined to fulfill my American dream.    Through my hard-work and tenacity, I have become one of the top 2% taxpayers in the country.    My recipe is simple: get a good education; be humble; respect your co-workers; apply yourself; don\&#039;t live on credit.\r\n\r\nI traveled many parts of the world.  I have yet to find a place that is better than here.  Yes, we have encountered countless problems in the past.   However, we have the best ship to sail through the storm each time.   GOD BLESS AMERICA!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too!  I was in the same boat.   I came here 35 years ago with a few hundred dollars and a luggage of my basic necessity.   I spoke broken English and people teased my accent.   However, I did not whine and complain.  I determined to fulfill my American dream.    Through my hard-work and tenacity, I have become one of the top 2% taxpayers in the country.    My recipe is simple: get a good education; be humble; respect your co-workers; apply yourself; don&#8217;t live on credit.</p><p>I traveled many parts of the world.  I have yet to find a place that is better than here.  Yes, we have encountered countless problems in the past.   However, we have the best ship to sail through the storm each time.   GOD BLESS AMERICA!<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51224</guid> <description>I am thankful to this country. As an immigrant from the former Soviet Union I know first hand what independence is! This country is an amazing place and we should be thankful EVERY DAY for living here! In no other place in the world would someone from a different culture achieve all their dreams and become ONE of the Americans without being born here.  We should be proud as this country does not know nationality! We are all Americans and the whole world is jealous that we are who we are. And we can be who we want to be! And housing recession, markets swings will go away but we will have our lives, our independence and our freedom! GOD BLESS AMERICA!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51224&#039;,&#039;Vera Brodsky&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51224&#039;,&#039;Vera Brodsky&#039;,&#039;I am thankful to this country. As an immigrant from the former Soviet Union I know first hand what independence is! This country is an amazing place and we should be thankful EVERY DAY for living here! In no other place in the world would someone from a different culture achieve all their dreams and become ONE of the Americans without being born here.  We should be proud as this country does not know nationality! We are all Americans and the whole world is jealous that we are who we are. And we can be who we want to be! And housing recession, markets swings will go away but we will have our lives, our independence and our freedom! GOD BLESS AMERICA!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thankful to this country. As an immigrant from the former Soviet Union I know first hand what independence is! This country is an amazing place and we should be thankful EVERY DAY for living here! In no other place in the world would someone from a different culture achieve all their dreams and become ONE of the Americans without being born here.  We should be proud as this country does not know nationality! We are all Americans and the whole world is jealous that we are who we are. And we can be who we want to be! And housing recession, markets swings will go away but we will have our lives, our independence and our freedom! GOD BLESS AMERICA!<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('51224','Vera Brodsky','I am thankful to this country. As an immigrant from the former Soviet Union I know first hand what independence is! This country is an amazing place and we should be thankful EVERY DAY for living here! In no other place in the world would someone from a different culture achieve all their dreams and become ONE of the Americans without being born here.  We should be proud as this country does not know nationality! We are all Americans and the whole world is jealous that we are who we are. And we can be who we want to be! And housing recession, markets swings will go away but we will have our lives, our independence and our freedom! GOD BLESS AMERICA!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scotsman</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/04/independence-day-open-thread/#comment-51222</link> <dc:creator>Scotsman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:52:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51222</guid> <description>Happy Fourth to all!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51222&#039;,&#039;Scotsman&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51222&#039;,&#039;Scotsman&#039;,&#039;Happy Fourth to all!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Fourth to all!<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51220</guid> <description>Nice to know how STRONG of character our forefathers all were.
Thanks.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51220&#039;,&#039;born in seattle&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51220&#039;,&#039;born in seattle&#039;,&#039;Nice to know how STRONG of character our forefathers all were.\r\nThanks.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to know how STRONG of character our forefathers all were.<br
/> Thanks.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51219</guid> <description>THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES AND MORE SIGNING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCEThis came from our military fighting in Iraq:&quot;....The Americans Who Risked EverythingMy father, Rush H. Limbaugh, Jr., delivered this oft-requested address locally a number of times, but it hadnever before appeared in print until it appeared in The Limbaugh Letter. My dad was renowned for his oratoryskills and for his original mind; this speech is, I think, a superb demonstration of both. I will always be gratefulto him for instilling in me a passion for the ideas and lives of America&#039;s Founders, as well as a deepappreciation for the inspirational power of words which you will see evidenced here:&quot;Our Lives, Our Fortunes, Our Sacred Honor&quot;It was a glorious morning. The sun was shining and the wind was from the southeast. Up especially early, a tallbony, redheaded young Virginian found time to buy a new thermometer, for which he paid three pounds, fifteenshillings. He also bought gloves for Martha, his wife, who was ill at home.Thomas Jefferson arrived early at the statehouse. The temperature was 72.5 degrees and the horsefliesweren&#039;t nearly so bad at that hour. It was a lovely room, very large, with gleaming white walls. The chairs werecomfortable. Facing the single door were two brass fireplaces, but they would not be used today.The moment the door was shut, and it was always kept locked, the roombecame an oven. The tall windows were shut, so that loud quarreling voicescould not be heard by passersby. Small openings atop the windows alloweda slight stir of air, and also a large number of horseflies. Jefferson recordsthat &quot;the horseflies were dexterous in finding necks, and the silk ofstockings was nothing to them.&quot; All discussing was punctuated by the slapof hands on necks.On the wall at the back, facing the president&#039;s desk, was a panoply --consisting of a drum, swords, and banners seized from Fort Ticonderogathe previous year. Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold had captured the place,shouting that they were taking it &quot;in the name of the Great Jehovah and theContinental Congress!&quot;Now Congress got to work, promptly taking up an emergency measureabout which there was discussion but no dissension. &quot;Resolved: That anapplication be made to the Committee of Safety of Pennsylvania for asupply of flints for the troops at New York.&quot;Then Congress transformed itself into a committee of the whole. The Declaration of Independence was readaloud once more, and debate resumed. Though Jefferson was the best writer of all of them, he had beensomewhat verbose. Congress hacked the excess away. They did a good job, as a side-by-side comparison ofthe rough draft and the final text shows. They cut the phrase &quot;by a self-assumed power.&quot; &quot;Climb&quot; was replacedby &quot;must read,&quot; then &quot;must&quot; was eliminated, then the whole sentence, and soon the whole paragraph was cut.Jefferson groaned as they continued what he later called &quot;their depredations.&quot; &quot;Inherent and inalienable rights&quot;came out &quot;certain unalienable rights,&quot; and to this day no one knows who suggested the elegant change.A total of 86 alterations were made. Almost 500 words were eliminated, leaving 1,337. At last, after three daysof wrangling, the document was put to a vote.Here in this hall Patrick Henry had once thundered: &quot;I am no longer a Virginian, sir, but an American.&quot; Buttoday the loud, sometimes bitter argument stilled, and without fanfare the vote was taken from north to southby colonies, as was the custom. On July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was adopted.There were no trumpets blown. No one stood on his chair and cheered. The afternoon was waning andCongress had no thought of delaying the full calendar of routine business on its hands. For several hours theyworked on many other problems before adjourning for the day.Much To LoseWhat kind of men were the 56 signers who adopted the Declaration of Independence and who, by theirsigning, committed an act of treason against the crown? To each of you, the names Franklin, Adams, Hancockand Jefferson are almost as familiar as household words. Most of us, however, know nothing of the othersigners. Who were they? What happened to them?I imagine that many of you are somewhat surprised at the names not there: George Washington, AlexanderHamilton, Patrick Henry. All were elsewhere.Ben Franklin was the only really old man. Eighteen were under 40; threewere in their 20s. Of the 56 almost half - 24 - were judges and lawyers.Eleven were merchants, nine were landowners and farmers, and theremaining 12 were doctors, ministers, and politicians.With only a few exceptions, such as Samuel Adams of Massachusetts, thesewere men of substantial property. All but two had families. The vast majoritywere men of education and standing in their communities. They hadeconomic security as few men had in the 18th Century.Each had more to lose from revolution than he had to gain by it. JohnHancock, one of the richest men in America, already had a price of 500pounds on his head. He signed in enormous letters so that his Majesty couldnow read his name without glasses and could now double the reward. BenFranklin wryly noted: &quot;Indeed we must all hang together, otherwise we shallmost assuredly hang separately.&quot;Fat Benjamin Harrison of Virginia told tiny Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts:&quot;With me it will all be over in a minute, but you, you will be dancing on air anhour after I am gone.&quot;These men knew what they risked. The penalty for treason was death by hanging. And remember, a greatBritish fleet was already at anchor in New York Harbor.They were sober men. There were no dreamy-eyed intellectuals or draft card burners here. They were far fromhot-eyed fanatics yammering for an explosion. They simply asked for the status quo. It was change theyresisted. It was equality with the mother country they desired. It was taxation with representation they sought.They were all conservatives, yet they rebelled.It was principle, not property, that had brought these men to Philadelphia. Two of them became presidents ofthe United States. Seven of them became state governors. One died in office as vice president of the UnitedStates. Several would go on to be U.S. Senators. One, the richest man in America, in 1828 founded theBaltimore and Ohio Railroad. One, a delegate from Philadelphia, was the only real poet, musician andphilosopher of the signers. (It was he, Francis Hopkinson not Betsy Ross who designed the United States flag.)Richard Henry Lee, a delegate from Virginia, had introduced the resolution to adopt the Declaration ofIndependence in June of 1776. He was prophetic in his concluding remarks: &quot;Why then sir, why do we longerdelay? Why still deliberate? Let this happy day give birth to an American Republic. Let her arise not todevastate and to conquer but to reestablish the reign of peace and law.&quot;The eyes of Europe are fixed upon us. She demands of usa living example of freedom that may exhibit a contrast in thefelicity of the citizen to the ever-increasing tyranny whichdesolates her polluted shores. She invites us to prepare anasylum where the unhappy may find solace, and thepersecuted repost.&quot;If we are not this day wanting in our duty, the names of theAmerican Legislatures of 1776 will be placed by posterity atthe side of all of those whose memory has been and everwill be dear to virtuous men and good citizens.&quot;Though the resolution was formally adopted July 4, it was not until July 8 that two of the states authorized theirdelegates to sign, and it was not until August 2 that the signers met at Philadelphia to actually put their namesto the Declaration.William Ellery, delegate from Rhode Island, was curious to see the signers&#039; faces as they committed thissupreme act of personal courage. He saw some men sign quickly, &quot;but in no face was he able to discern realfear.&quot; Stephan Hopkins, Ellery&#039;s colleague from Rhode Island, was a man past 60. As he signed with a shakingpen, he declared: &quot;My hand trembles, but my heart does not.&quot;&quot;Most Glorious Service&quot;Even before the list was published, the British marked down every member of Congress suspected of havingput his name to treason. All of them became the objects of vicious manhunts. Some were taken. Some, likeJefferson, had narrow escapes. All who had property or families near British strongholds suffered.· Francis Lewis, New York delegate saw his homeplundered -- and his estates in what is now Harlem --completely destroyed by British Soldiers. Mrs. Lewis wascaptured and treated with great brutality. Though shewas later exchanged for two British prisoners through theefforts of Congress, she died from the effects of herabuse.· William Floyd, another New York delegate, was able toescape with his wife and children across Long IslandSound to Connecticut, where they lived as refugeeswithout income for seven years. When they came homethey found a devastated ruin.· Philips Livingstone had all his great holdings in New York confiscated and his family driven out of their home.Livingstone died in 1778 still working in Congress for the cause.· Louis Morris, the fourth New York delegate, saw all his timber, crops, and livestock taken. For seven years hewas barred from his home and family.· John Hart of Trenton, New Jersey, risked his life to return home to see his dying wife. Hessian soldiers rodeafter him, and he escaped in the woods. While his wife lay on her deathbed, the soldiers ruined his farm andwrecked his homestead. Hart, 65, slept in caves and woods as he was hunted across the countryside. When atlong last, emaciated by hardship, he was able to sneak home, he found his wife had already been buried, andhis 13 children taken away. He never saw them again. He died a broken man in 1779, without ever finding hisfamily.· Dr. John Witherspoon, signer, was president of the College of New Jersey, later called Princeton. The Britishoccupied the town of Princeton, and billeted troops in the college. They trampled and burned the finest collegelibrary in the country.· Judge Richard Stockton, another New Jersey delegate signer, had rushed back to his estate in an effort toevacuate his wife and children. The family found refuge with friends, but a Tory sympathizer betrayed them.Judge Stockton was pulled from bed in the night and brutally beaten by the arresting soldiers. Thrown into acommon jail, he was deliberately starved. Congress finally arranged for Stockton&#039;s parole, but his health wasruined. The judge was released as an invalid, when he could no longer harm the British cause. He returnedhome to find his estate looted and did not live to see the triumph of the Revolution. His family was forced to liveoff charity.· Robert Morris, merchant prince of Philadelphia, delegate and signer, metWashington&#039;s appeals and pleas for money year after year. He made andraised arms and provisions which made it possible for Washington to crossthe Delaware at Trenton. In the process he lost 150 ships at sea, bleedinghis own fortune and credit almost dry.· George Clymer, Pennsylvania signer, escaped with his family from theirhome, but their property was completely destroyed by the British in theGermantown and Brandywine campaigns.· Dr. Benjamin Rush, also from Pennsylvania, was forced to flee to Maryland. As a heroic surgeon with thearmy, Rush had several narrow escapes.· John Martin, a Tory in his views previous to the debate, lived in a strongly loyalist area of Pennsylvania.When he came out for independence, most of his neighbors and even some of his relatives ostracized him. Hewas a sensitive and troubled man, and many believed this action killed him. When he died in 1777, his lastwords to his tormentors were: &quot;Tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall acknowledge it [thesigning] to have been the most glorious service that I have ever rendered to my country.&quot;· William Ellery, Rhode Island delegate, saw his property and home burned to the ground.· Thomas Lynch, Jr., South Carolina delegate, had his health broken from privation and exposures whileserving as a company commander in the military. His doctors ordered him to seek a cure in the West Indiesand on the voyage; he and his young bride were drowned at sea.· Edward Rutledge, Arthur Middleton, and Thomas Heyward, Jr., the other three South Carolina signers, weretaken by the British in the siege of Charleston. They were carried asprisoners of war to St. Augustine, Florida, where they were singled outfor indignities. They were exchanged at the end of the war, the Britishin the meantime having completely devastated their largelandholdings and estates.· Thomas Nelson, signer of Virginia, was at the front in command ofthe Virginia military forces. With British General Charles Cornwallis inYorktown, fire from 70 heavy American guns began to destroyYorktown piece by piece. Lord Cornwallis and his staff moved theirheadquarters into Nelson&#039;s palatial home. While American cannonballs were making a shambles of the town,the house of Governor Nelson remained untouched. Nelson turned in rage to the American gunners andasked, &quot;Why do you spare my home?&quot; They replied, &quot;Sir, out of respect to you.&quot; Nelson cried, &quot;Give me thecannon!&quot; and fired on his magnificent home himself, smashing it to bits. But Nelson&#039;s sacrifice was not quiteover. He had raised $2 million for the Revolutionary cause by pledging his own estates. When the loans camedue, a newer peacetime Congress refused to honor them, and Nelson&#039;s property was forfeited. He was neverreimbursed. He died, impoverished, a few years later at the age of 50.Lives, Fortunes, HonorOf those 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war.Five were captured and imprisoned, in each case with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons or entirefamilies. One lost his 13 children. Two wives were brutally treated. All were at one time or another the victimsof manhunts and driven from their homes. Twelve signers had their homes completely burned. Seventeen losteverything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word. Their honor, and the nationthey sacrificed so much to create is still intact.And, finally, there is the New Jersey signer, Abraham Clark.He gave two sons to the officer corps in the Revolutionary Army. They werecaptured and sent to that infamous British prison hulk afloat in New York Harborknown as the hell ship Jersey, where 11,000 American captives were to die. Theyounger Clarks were treated with a special brutality because of their father. Onewas put in solitary and given no food. With the end almost in sight, with the waralmost won, no one could have blamed Abraham Clark for acceding to the Britishrequest when they offered him his sons&#039; lives if he would recant and come out forthe King and Parliament. The utter despair in this man&#039;s heart, the anguish in hisvery soul, must reach out to each one of us down through 200 years with hisanswer: &quot;No.&quot;The 56 signers of the Declaration Of Independence proved by their every deedthat they made no idle boast when they composed the most magnificent curtainline in history. &quot;And for the support of this Declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divineprovidence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.&quot;My friends, I know you have a copy of the Declaration of Independence somewhere around the house - in an oldhistory book (newer ones may well omit it), an encyclopedia, or one of those artificially aged &quot;parchments&quot; weall got in school years ago. I suggest that each of you take the time this month to read through the text of theDeclaration, one of the most noble and beautiful political documents in human history.There is no more profound sentence than this: &quot;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are createdequal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life,Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness...&quot;These are far more than mere poetic words. The underlying ideas that infuse every sentence of this treatise havesustained this nation for more than two centuries. They were forged in the crucible of great sacrifice. They areliving words that spring from and satisfy the deepest cries for liberty in the human spirit.&quot;Sacred honor&quot; isn&#039;t a phrase we use much these days, but every American life is touched by the bounty of this,the Founders&#039; legacy. It is freedom, tested by blood, and watered with tears.- Rush Limbaugh III...&quot;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51219&#039;,&#039;softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51219&#039;,&#039;softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES AND MORE SIGNING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE\r\n\r\nThis came from our military fighting in Iraq:\r\n\r\n\&quot;....The Americans Who Risked Everything\r\n\r\nMy father, Rush H. Limbaugh, Jr., delivered this oft-requested address locally a number of times, but it had\r\n\r\nnever before appeared in print until it appeared in The Limbaugh Letter. My dad was renowned for his oratory\r\n\r\nskills and for his original mind; this speech is, I think, a superb demonstration of both. I will always be grateful\r\n\r\nto him for instilling in me a passion for the ideas and lives of America\&#039;s Founders, as well as a deep\r\n\r\nappreciation for the inspirational power of words which you will see evidenced here:\r\n\r\n\&quot;Our Lives, Our Fortunes, Our Sacred Honor\&quot;\r\n\r\nIt was a glorious morning. The sun was shining and the wind was from the southeast. Up especially early, a tall\r\n\r\nbony, redheaded young Virginian found time to buy a new thermometer, for which he paid three pounds, fifteen\r\n\r\nshillings. He also bought gloves for Martha, his wife, who was ill at home.\r\n\r\nThomas Jefferson arrived early at the statehouse. The temperature was 72.5 degrees and the horseflies\r\n\r\nweren\&#039;t nearly so bad at that hour. It was a lovely room, very large, with gleaming white walls. The chairs were\r\n\r\ncomfortable. Facing the single door were two brass fireplaces, but they would not be used today.\r\n\r\nThe moment the door was shut, and it was always kept locked, the room\r\n\r\nbecame an oven. The tall windows were shut, so that loud quarreling voices\r\n\r\ncould not be heard by passersby. Small openings atop the windows allowed\r\n\r\na slight stir of air, and also a large number of horseflies. Jefferson records\r\n\r\nthat \&quot;the horseflies were dexterous in finding necks, and the silk of\r\n\r\nstockings was nothing to them.\&quot; All discussing was punctuated by the slap\r\n\r\nof hands on necks.\r\n\r\nOn the wall at the back, facing the president\&#039;s desk, was a panoply --\r\n\r\nconsisting of a drum, swords, and banners seized from Fort Ticonderoga\r\n\r\nthe previous year. Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold had captured the place,\r\n\r\nshouting that they were taking it \&quot;in the name of the Great Jehovah and the\r\n\r\nContinental Congress!\&quot;\r\n\r\nNow Congress got to work, promptly taking up an emergency measure\r\n\r\nabout which there was discussion but no dissension. \&quot;Resolved: That an\r\n\r\napplication be made to the Committee of Safety of Pennsylvania for a\r\n\r\nsupply of flints for the troops at New York.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThen Congress transformed itself into a committee of the whole. The Declaration of Independence was read\r\n\r\naloud once more, and debate resumed. Though Jefferson was the best writer of all of them, he had been\r\n\r\nsomewhat verbose. Congress hacked the excess away. They did a good job, as a side-by-side comparison of\r\n\r\nthe rough draft and the final text shows. They cut the phrase \&quot;by a self-assumed power.\&quot; \&quot;Climb\&quot; was replaced\r\n\r\nby \&quot;must read,\&quot; then \&quot;must\&quot; was eliminated, then the whole sentence, and soon the whole paragraph was cut.\r\n\r\nJefferson groaned as they continued what he later called \&quot;their depredations.\&quot; \&quot;Inherent and inalienable rights\&quot;\r\n\r\ncame out \&quot;certain unalienable rights,\&quot; and to this day no one knows who suggested the elegant change.\r\n\r\nA total of 86 alterations were made. Almost 500 words were eliminated, leaving 1,337. At last, after three days\r\n\r\nof wrangling, the document was put to a vote.\r\n\r\nHere in this hall Patrick Henry had once thundered: \&quot;I am no longer a Virginian, sir, but an American.\&quot; But\r\n\r\ntoday the loud, sometimes bitter argument stilled, and without fanfare the vote was taken from north to south\r\n\r\nby colonies, as was the custom. On July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was adopted.\r\n\r\nThere were no trumpets blown. No one stood on his chair and cheered. The afternoon was waning and\r\n\r\nCongress had no thought of delaying the full calendar of routine business on its hands. For several hours they\r\n\r\nworked on many other problems before adjourning for the day.\r\n\r\nMuch To Lose\r\n\r\nWhat kind of men were the 56 signers who adopted the Declaration of Independence and who, by their\r\n\r\nsigning, committed an act of treason against the crown? To each of you, the names Franklin, Adams, Hancock\r\n\r\nand Jefferson are almost as familiar as household words. Most of us, however, know nothing of the other\r\n\r\nsigners. Who were they? What happened to them?\r\n\r\nI imagine that many of you are somewhat surprised at the names not there: George Washington, Alexander\r\n\r\nHamilton, Patrick Henry. All were elsewhere.\r\n\r\nBen Franklin was the only really old man. Eighteen were under 40; three\r\n\r\nwere in their 20s. Of the 56 almost half - 24 - were judges and lawyers.\r\n\r\nEleven were merchants, nine were landowners and farmers, and the\r\n\r\nremaining 12 were doctors, ministers, and politicians.\r\n\r\nWith only a few exceptions, such as Samuel Adams of Massachusetts, these\r\n\r\nwere men of substantial property. All but two had families. The vast majority\r\n\r\nwere men of education and standing in their communities. They had\r\n\r\neconomic security as few men had in the 18th Century.\r\n\r\nEach had more to lose from revolution than he had to gain by it. John\r\n\r\nHancock, one of the richest men in America, already had a price of 500\r\n\r\npounds on his head. He signed in enormous letters so that his Majesty could\r\n\r\nnow read his name without glasses and could now double the reward. Ben\r\n\r\nFranklin wryly noted: \&quot;Indeed we must all hang together, otherwise we shall\r\n\r\nmost assuredly hang separately.\&quot;\r\n\r\nFat Benjamin Harrison of Virginia told tiny Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts:\r\n\r\n\&quot;With me it will all be over in a minute, but you, you will be dancing on air an\r\n\r\nhour after I am gone.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThese men knew what they risked. The penalty for treason was death by hanging. And remember, a great\r\n\r\nBritish fleet was already at anchor in New York Harbor.\r\n\r\nThey were sober men. There were no dreamy-eyed intellectuals or draft card burners here. They were far from\r\n\r\nhot-eyed fanatics yammering for an explosion. They simply asked for the status quo. It was change they\r\n\r\nresisted. It was equality with the mother country they desired. It was taxation with representation they sought.\r\n\r\nThey were all conservatives, yet they rebelled.\r\n\r\nIt was principle, not property, that had brought these men to Philadelphia. Two of them became presidents of\r\n\r\nthe United States. Seven of them became state governors. One died in office as vice president of the United\r\n\r\nStates. Several would go on to be U.S. Senators. One, the richest man in America, in 1828 founded the\r\n\r\nBaltimore and Ohio Railroad. One, a delegate from Philadelphia, was the only real poet, musician and\r\n\r\nphilosopher of the signers. (It was he, Francis Hopkinson not Betsy Ross who designed the United States flag.)\r\n\r\nRichard Henry Lee, a delegate from Virginia, had introduced the resolution to adopt the Declaration of\r\n\r\nIndependence in June of 1776. He was prophetic in his concluding remarks: \&quot;Why then sir, why do we longer\r\n\r\ndelay? Why still deliberate? Let this happy day give birth to an American Republic. Let her arise not to\r\n\r\ndevastate and to conquer but to reestablish the reign of peace and law.\r\n\r\n\&quot;The eyes of Europe are fixed upon us. She demands of us\r\n\r\na living example of freedom that may exhibit a contrast in the\r\n\r\nfelicity of the citizen to the ever-increasing tyranny which\r\n\r\ndesolates her polluted shores. She invites us to prepare an\r\n\r\nasylum where the unhappy may find solace, and the\r\n\r\npersecuted repost.\r\n\r\n\&quot;If we are not this day wanting in our duty, the names of the\r\n\r\nAmerican Legislatures of 1776 will be placed by posterity at\r\n\r\nthe side of all of those whose memory has been and ever\r\n\r\nwill be dear to virtuous men and good citizens.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThough the resolution was formally adopted July 4, it was not until July 8 that two of the states authorized their\r\n\r\ndelegates to sign, and it was not until August 2 that the signers met at Philadelphia to actually put their names\r\n\r\nto the Declaration.\r\n\r\nWilliam Ellery, delegate from Rhode Island, was curious to see the signers\&#039; faces as they committed this\r\n\r\nsupreme act of personal courage. He saw some men sign quickly, \&quot;but in no face was he able to discern real\r\n\r\nfear.\&quot; Stephan Hopkins, Ellery\&#039;s colleague from Rhode Island, was a man past 60. As he signed with a shaking\r\n\r\npen, he declared: \&quot;My hand trembles, but my heart does not.\&quot;\r\n\r\n\&quot;Most Glorious Service\&quot;\r\n\r\nEven before the list was published, the British marked down every member of Congress suspected of having\r\n\r\nput his name to treason. All of them became the objects of vicious manhunts. Some were taken. Some, like\r\n\r\nJefferson, had narrow escapes. All who had property or families near British strongholds suffered.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Francis Lewis, New York delegate saw his home\r\n\r\nplundered -- and his estates in what is now Harlem --\r\n\r\ncompletely destroyed by British Soldiers. Mrs. Lewis was\r\n\r\ncaptured and treated with great brutality. Though she\r\n\r\nwas later exchanged for two British prisoners through the\r\n\r\nefforts of Congress, she died from the effects of her\r\n\r\nabuse.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; William Floyd, another New York delegate, was able to\r\n\r\nescape with his wife and children across Long Island\r\n\r\nSound to Connecticut, where they lived as refugees\r\n\r\nwithout income for seven years. When they came home\r\n\r\nthey found a devastated ruin.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Philips Livingstone had all his great holdings in New York confiscated and his family driven out of their home.\r\n\r\nLivingstone died in 1778 still working in Congress for the cause.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Louis Morris, the fourth New York delegate, saw all his timber, crops, and livestock taken. For seven years he\r\n\r\nwas barred from his home and family.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; John Hart of Trenton, New Jersey, risked his life to return home to see his dying wife. Hessian soldiers rode\r\n\r\nafter him, and he escaped in the woods. While his wife lay on her deathbed, the soldiers ruined his farm and\r\n\r\nwrecked his homestead. Hart, 65, slept in caves and woods as he was hunted across the countryside. When at\r\n\r\nlong last, emaciated by hardship, he was able to sneak home, he found his wife had already been buried, and\r\n\r\nhis 13 children taken away. He never saw them again. He died a broken man in 1779, without ever finding his\r\n\r\nfamily.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Dr. John Witherspoon, signer, was president of the College of New Jersey, later called Princeton. The British\r\n\r\noccupied the town of Princeton, and billeted troops in the college. They trampled and burned the finest college\r\n\r\nlibrary in the country.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Judge Richard Stockton, another New Jersey delegate signer, had rushed back to his estate in an effort to\r\n\r\nevacuate his wife and children. The family found refuge with friends, but a Tory sympathizer betrayed them.\r\n\r\nJudge Stockton was pulled from bed in the night and brutally beaten by the arresting soldiers. Thrown into a\r\n\r\ncommon jail, he was deliberately starved. Congress finally arranged for Stockton\&#039;s parole, but his health was\r\n\r\nruined. The judge was released as an invalid, when he could no longer harm the British cause. He returned\r\n\r\nhome to find his estate looted and did not live to see the triumph of the Revolution. His family was forced to live\r\n\r\noff charity.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Robert Morris, merchant prince of Philadelphia, delegate and signer, met\r\n\r\nWashington\&#039;s appeals and pleas for money year after year. He made and\r\n\r\nraised arms and provisions which made it possible for Washington to cross\r\n\r\nthe Delaware at Trenton. In the process he lost 150 ships at sea, bleeding\r\n\r\nhis own fortune and credit almost dry.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; George Clymer, Pennsylvania signer, escaped with his family from their\r\n\r\nhome, but their property was completely destroyed by the British in the\r\n\r\nGermantown and Brandywine campaigns.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Dr. Benjamin Rush, also from Pennsylvania, was forced to flee to Maryland. As a heroic surgeon with the\r\n\r\narmy, Rush had several narrow escapes.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; John Martin, a Tory in his views previous to the debate, lived in a strongly loyalist area of Pennsylvania.\r\n\r\nWhen he came out for independence, most of his neighbors and even some of his relatives ostracized him. He\r\n\r\nwas a sensitive and troubled man, and many believed this action killed him. When he died in 1777, his last\r\n\r\nwords to his tormentors were: \&quot;Tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall acknowledge it &#91;the\r\n\r\nsigning&#93; to have been the most glorious service that I have ever rendered to my country.\&quot;\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; William Ellery, Rhode Island delegate, saw his property and home burned to the ground.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Thomas Lynch, Jr., South Carolina delegate, had his health broken from privation and exposures while\r\n\r\nserving as a company commander in the military. His doctors ordered him to seek a cure in the West Indies\r\n\r\nand on the voyage; he and his young bride were drowned at sea.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Edward Rutledge, Arthur Middleton, and Thomas Heyward, Jr., the other three South Carolina signers, were\r\n\r\ntaken by the British in the siege of Charleston. They were carried as\r\n\r\nprisoners of war to St. Augustine, Florida, where they were singled out\r\n\r\nfor indignities. They were exchanged at the end of the war, the British\r\n\r\nin the meantime having completely devastated their large\r\n\r\nlandholdings and estates.\r\n\r\n&#194;&#183; Thomas Nelson, signer of Virginia, was at the front in command of\r\n\r\nthe Virginia military forces. With British General Charles Cornwallis in\r\n\r\nYorktown, fire from 70 heavy American guns began to destroy\r\n\r\nYorktown piece by piece. Lord Cornwallis and his staff moved their\r\n\r\nheadquarters into Nelson\&#039;s palatial home. While American cannonballs were making a shambles of the town,\r\n\r\nthe house of Governor Nelson remained untouched. Nelson turned in rage to the American gunners and\r\n\r\nasked, \&quot;Why do you spare my home?\&quot; They replied, \&quot;Sir, out of respect to you.\&quot; Nelson cried, \&quot;Give me the\r\n\r\ncannon!\&quot; and fired on his magnificent home himself, smashing it to bits. But Nelson\&#039;s sacrifice was not quite\r\n\r\nover. He had raised $2 million for the Revolutionary cause by pledging his own estates. When the loans came\r\n\r\ndue, a newer peacetime Congress refused to honor them, and Nelson\&#039;s property was forfeited. He was never\r\n\r\nreimbursed. He died, impoverished, a few years later at the age of 50.\r\n\r\nLives, Fortunes, Honor\r\n\r\nOf those 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war.\r\n\r\nFive were captured and imprisoned, in each case with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons or entire\r\n\r\nfamilies. One lost his 13 children. Two wives were brutally treated. All were at one time or another the victims\r\n\r\nof manhunts and driven from their homes. Twelve signers had their homes completely burned. Seventeen lost\r\n\r\neverything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word. Their honor, and the nation\r\n\r\nthey sacrificed so much to create is still intact.\r\n\r\nAnd, finally, there is the New Jersey signer, Abraham Clark.\r\n\r\nHe gave two sons to the officer corps in the Revolutionary Army. They were\r\n\r\ncaptured and sent to that infamous British prison hulk afloat in New York Harbor\r\n\r\nknown as the hell ship Jersey, where 11,000 American captives were to die. The\r\n\r\nyounger Clarks were treated with a special brutality because of their father. One\r\n\r\nwas put in solitary and given no food. With the end almost in sight, with the war\r\n\r\nalmost won, no one could have blamed Abraham Clark for acceding to the British\r\n\r\nrequest when they offered him his sons\&#039; lives if he would recant and come out for\r\n\r\nthe King and Parliament. The utter despair in this man\&#039;s heart, the anguish in his\r\n\r\nvery soul, must reach out to each one of us down through 200 years with his\r\n\r\nanswer: \&quot;No.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThe 56 signers of the Declaration Of Independence proved by their every deed\r\n\r\nthat they made no idle boast when they composed the most magnificent curtain\r\n\r\nline in history. \&quot;And for the support of this Declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divine\r\n\r\nprovidence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.\&quot;\r\n\r\nMy friends, I know you have a copy of the Declaration of Independence somewhere around the house - in an old\r\n\r\nhistory book (newer ones may well omit it), an encyclopedia, or one of those artificially aged \&quot;parchments\&quot; we\r\n\r\nall got in school years ago. I suggest that each of you take the time this month to read through the text of the\r\n\r\nDeclaration, one of the most noble and beautiful political documents in human history.\r\n\r\nThere is no more profound sentence than this: \&quot;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created\r\n\r\nequal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life,\r\n\r\nLiberty, and the pursuit of Happiness...\&quot;\r\n\r\nThese are far more than mere poetic words. The underlying ideas that infuse every sentence of this treatise have\r\n\r\nsustained this nation for more than two centuries. They were forged in the crucible of great sacrifice. They are\r\n\r\nliving words that spring from and satisfy the deepest cries for liberty in the human spirit.\r\n\r\n\&quot;Sacred honor\&quot; isn\&#039;t a phrase we use much these days, but every American life is touched by the bounty of this,\r\n\r\nthe Founders\&#039; legacy. It is freedom, tested by blood, and watered with tears.\r\n\r\n- Rush Limbaugh III...\&quot;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES AND MORE SIGNING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE</p><p>This came from our military fighting in Iraq:</p><p>&#8220;&#8230;.The Americans Who Risked Everything</p><p>My father, Rush H. Limbaugh, Jr., delivered this oft-requested address locally a number of times, but it had</p><p>never before appeared in print until it appeared in The Limbaugh Letter. My dad was renowned for his oratory</p><p>skills and for his original mind; this speech is, I think, a superb demonstration of both. I will always be grateful</p><p>to him for instilling in me a passion for the ideas and lives of America&#8217;s Founders, as well as a deep</p><p>appreciation for the inspirational power of words which you will see evidenced here:</p><p>&#8220;Our Lives, Our Fortunes, Our Sacred Honor&#8221;</p><p>It was a glorious morning. The sun was shining and the wind was from the southeast. Up especially early, a tall</p><p>bony, redheaded young Virginian found time to buy a new thermometer, for which he paid three pounds, fifteen</p><p>shillings. He also bought gloves for Martha, his wife, who was ill at home.</p><p>Thomas Jefferson arrived early at the statehouse. The temperature was 72.5 degrees and the horseflies</p><p>weren&#8217;t nearly so bad at that hour. It was a lovely room, very large, with gleaming white walls. The chairs were</p><p>comfortable. Facing the single door were two brass fireplaces, but they would not be used today.</p><p>The moment the door was shut, and it was always kept locked, the room</p><p>became an oven. The tall windows were shut, so that loud quarreling voices</p><p>could not be heard by passersby. Small openings atop the windows allowed</p><p>a slight stir of air, and also a large number of horseflies. Jefferson records</p><p>that &#8220;the horseflies were dexterous in finding necks, and the silk of</p><p>stockings was nothing to them.&#8221; All discussing was punctuated by the slap</p><p>of hands on necks.</p><p>On the wall at the back, facing the president&#8217;s desk, was a panoply &#8211;</p><p>consisting of a drum, swords, and banners seized from Fort Ticonderoga</p><p>the previous year. Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold had captured the place,</p><p>shouting that they were taking it &#8220;in the name of the Great Jehovah and the</p><p>Continental Congress!&#8221;</p><p>Now Congress got to work, promptly taking up an emergency measure</p><p>about which there was discussion but no dissension. &#8220;Resolved: That an</p><p>application be made to the Committee of Safety of Pennsylvania for a</p><p>supply of flints for the troops at New York.&#8221;</p><p>Then Congress transformed itself into a committee of the whole. The Declaration of Independence was read</p><p>aloud once more, and debate resumed. Though Jefferson was the best writer of all of them, he had been</p><p>somewhat verbose. Congress hacked the excess away. They did a good job, as a side-by-side comparison of</p><p>the rough draft and the final text shows. They cut the phrase &#8220;by a self-assumed power.&#8221; &#8220;Climb&#8221; was replaced</p><p>by &#8220;must read,&#8221; then &#8220;must&#8221; was eliminated, then the whole sentence, and soon the whole paragraph was cut.</p><p>Jefferson groaned as they continued what he later called &#8220;their depredations.&#8221; &#8220;Inherent and inalienable rights&#8221;</p><p>came out &#8220;certain unalienable rights,&#8221; and to this day no one knows who suggested the elegant change.</p><p>A total of 86 alterations were made. Almost 500 words were eliminated, leaving 1,337. At last, after three days</p><p>of wrangling, the document was put to a vote.</p><p>Here in this hall Patrick Henry had once thundered: &#8220;I am no longer a Virginian, sir, but an American.&#8221; But</p><p>today the loud, sometimes bitter argument stilled, and without fanfare the vote was taken from north to south</p><p>by colonies, as was the custom. On July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was adopted.</p><p>There were no trumpets blown. No one stood on his chair and cheered. The afternoon was waning and</p><p>Congress had no thought of delaying the full calendar of routine business on its hands. For several hours they</p><p>worked on many other problems before adjourning for the day.</p><p>Much To Lose</p><p>What kind of men were the 56 signers who adopted the Declaration of Independence and who, by their</p><p>signing, committed an act of treason against the crown? To each of you, the names Franklin, Adams, Hancock</p><p>and Jefferson are almost as familiar as household words. Most of us, however, know nothing of the other</p><p>signers. Who were they? What happened to them?</p><p>I imagine that many of you are somewhat surprised at the names not there: George Washington, Alexander</p><p>Hamilton, Patrick Henry. All were elsewhere.</p><p>Ben Franklin was the only really old man. Eighteen were under 40; three</p><p>were in their 20s. Of the 56 almost half &#8211; 24 &#8211; were judges and lawyers.</p><p>Eleven were merchants, nine were landowners and farmers, and the</p><p>remaining 12 were doctors, ministers, and politicians.</p><p>With only a few exceptions, such as Samuel Adams of Massachusetts, these</p><p>were men of substantial property. All but two had families. The vast majority</p><p>were men of education and standing in their communities. They had</p><p>economic security as few men had in the 18th Century.</p><p>Each had more to lose from revolution than he had to gain by it. John</p><p>Hancock, one of the richest men in America, already had a price of 500</p><p>pounds on his head. He signed in enormous letters so that his Majesty could</p><p>now read his name without glasses and could now double the reward. Ben</p><p>Franklin wryly noted: &#8220;Indeed we must all hang together, otherwise we shall</p><p>most assuredly hang separately.&#8221;</p><p>Fat Benjamin Harrison of Virginia told tiny Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts:</p><p>&#8220;With me it will all be over in a minute, but you, you will be dancing on air an</p><p>hour after I am gone.&#8221;</p><p>These men knew what they risked. The penalty for treason was death by hanging. And remember, a great</p><p>British fleet was already at anchor in New York Harbor.</p><p>They were sober men. There were no dreamy-eyed intellectuals or draft card burners here. They were far from</p><p>hot-eyed fanatics yammering for an explosion. They simply asked for the status quo. It was change they</p><p>resisted. It was equality with the mother country they desired. It was taxation with representation they sought.</p><p>They were all conservatives, yet they rebelled.</p><p>It was principle, not property, that had brought these men to Philadelphia. Two of them became presidents of</p><p>the United States. Seven of them became state governors. One died in office as vice president of the United</p><p>States. Several would go on to be U.S. Senators. One, the richest man in America, in 1828 founded the</p><p>Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. One, a delegate from Philadelphia, was the only real poet, musician and</p><p>philosopher of the signers. (It was he, Francis Hopkinson not Betsy Ross who designed the United States flag.)</p><p>Richard Henry Lee, a delegate from Virginia, had introduced the resolution to adopt the Declaration of</p><p>Independence in June of 1776. He was prophetic in his concluding remarks: &#8220;Why then sir, why do we longer</p><p>delay? Why still deliberate? Let this happy day give birth to an American Republic. Let her arise not to</p><p>devastate and to conquer but to reestablish the reign of peace and law.</p><p>&#8220;The eyes of Europe are fixed upon us. She demands of us</p><p>a living example of freedom that may exhibit a contrast in the</p><p>felicity of the citizen to the ever-increasing tyranny which</p><p>desolates her polluted shores. She invites us to prepare an</p><p>asylum where the unhappy may find solace, and the</p><p>persecuted repost.</p><p>&#8220;If we are not this day wanting in our duty, the names of the</p><p>American Legislatures of 1776 will be placed by posterity at</p><p>the side of all of those whose memory has been and ever</p><p>will be dear to virtuous men and good citizens.&#8221;</p><p>Though the resolution was formally adopted July 4, it was not until July 8 that two of the states authorized their</p><p>delegates to sign, and it was not until August 2 that the signers met at Philadelphia to actually put their names</p><p>to the Declaration.</p><p>William Ellery, delegate from Rhode Island, was curious to see the signers&#8217; faces as they committed this</p><p>supreme act of personal courage. He saw some men sign quickly, &#8220;but in no face was he able to discern real</p><p>fear.&#8221; Stephan Hopkins, Ellery&#8217;s colleague from Rhode Island, was a man past 60. As he signed with a shaking</p><p>pen, he declared: &#8220;My hand trembles, but my heart does not.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Most Glorious Service&#8221;</p><p>Even before the list was published, the British marked down every member of Congress suspected of having</p><p>put his name to treason. All of them became the objects of vicious manhunts. Some were taken. Some, like</p><p>Jefferson, had narrow escapes. All who had property or families near British strongholds suffered.</p><p>· Francis Lewis, New York delegate saw his home</p><p>plundered &#8212; and his estates in what is now Harlem &#8211;</p><p>completely destroyed by British Soldiers. Mrs. Lewis was</p><p>captured and treated with great brutality. Though she</p><p>was later exchanged for two British prisoners through the</p><p>efforts of Congress, she died from the effects of her</p><p>abuse.</p><p>· William Floyd, another New York delegate, was able to</p><p>escape with his wife and children across Long Island</p><p>Sound to Connecticut, where they lived as refugees</p><p>without income for seven years. When they came home</p><p>they found a devastated ruin.</p><p>· Philips Livingstone had all his great holdings in New York confiscated and his family driven out of their home.</p><p>Livingstone died in 1778 still working in Congress for the cause.</p><p>· Louis Morris, the fourth New York delegate, saw all his timber, crops, and livestock taken. For seven years he</p><p>was barred from his home and family.</p><p>· John Hart of Trenton, New Jersey, risked his life to return home to see his dying wife. Hessian soldiers rode</p><p>after him, and he escaped in the woods. While his wife lay on her deathbed, the soldiers ruined his farm and</p><p>wrecked his homestead. Hart, 65, slept in caves and woods as he was hunted across the countryside. When at</p><p>long last, emaciated by hardship, he was able to sneak home, he found his wife had already been buried, and</p><p>his 13 children taken away. He never saw them again. He died a broken man in 1779, without ever finding his</p><p>family.</p><p>· Dr. John Witherspoon, signer, was president of the College of New Jersey, later called Princeton. The British</p><p>occupied the town of Princeton, and billeted troops in the college. They trampled and burned the finest college</p><p>library in the country.</p><p>· Judge Richard Stockton, another New Jersey delegate signer, had rushed back to his estate in an effort to</p><p>evacuate his wife and children. The family found refuge with friends, but a Tory sympathizer betrayed them.</p><p>Judge Stockton was pulled from bed in the night and brutally beaten by the arresting soldiers. Thrown into a</p><p>common jail, he was deliberately starved. Congress finally arranged for Stockton&#8217;s parole, but his health was</p><p>ruined. The judge was released as an invalid, when he could no longer harm the British cause. He returned</p><p>home to find his estate looted and did not live to see the triumph of the Revolution. His family was forced to live</p><p>off charity.</p><p>· Robert Morris, merchant prince of Philadelphia, delegate and signer, met</p><p>Washington&#8217;s appeals and pleas for money year after year. He made and</p><p>raised arms and provisions which made it possible for Washington to cross</p><p>the Delaware at Trenton. In the process he lost 150 ships at sea, bleeding</p><p>his own fortune and credit almost dry.</p><p>· George Clymer, Pennsylvania signer, escaped with his family from their</p><p>home, but their property was completely destroyed by the British in the</p><p>Germantown and Brandywine campaigns.</p><p>· Dr. Benjamin Rush, also from Pennsylvania, was forced to flee to Maryland. As a heroic surgeon with the</p><p>army, Rush had several narrow escapes.</p><p>· John Martin, a Tory in his views previous to the debate, lived in a strongly loyalist area of Pennsylvania.</p><p>When he came out for independence, most of his neighbors and even some of his relatives ostracized him. He</p><p>was a sensitive and troubled man, and many believed this action killed him. When he died in 1777, his last</p><p>words to his tormentors were: &#8220;Tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall acknowledge it [the</p><p>signing] to have been the most glorious service that I have ever rendered to my country.&#8221;</p><p>· William Ellery, Rhode Island delegate, saw his property and home burned to the ground.</p><p>· Thomas Lynch, Jr., South Carolina delegate, had his health broken from privation and exposures while</p><p>serving as a company commander in the military. His doctors ordered him to seek a cure in the West Indies</p><p>and on the voyage; he and his young bride were drowned at sea.</p><p>· Edward Rutledge, Arthur Middleton, and Thomas Heyward, Jr., the other three South Carolina signers, were</p><p>taken by the British in the siege of Charleston. They were carried as</p><p>prisoners of war to St. Augustine, Florida, where they were singled out</p><p>for indignities. They were exchanged at the end of the war, the British</p><p>in the meantime having completely devastated their large</p><p>landholdings and estates.</p><p>· Thomas Nelson, signer of Virginia, was at the front in command of</p><p>the Virginia military forces. With British General Charles Cornwallis in</p><p>Yorktown, fire from 70 heavy American guns began to destroy</p><p>Yorktown piece by piece. Lord Cornwallis and his staff moved their</p><p>headquarters into Nelson&#8217;s palatial home. While American cannonballs were making a shambles of the town,</p><p>the house of Governor Nelson remained untouched. Nelson turned in rage to the American gunners and</p><p>asked, &#8220;Why do you spare my home?&#8221; They replied, &#8220;Sir, out of respect to you.&#8221; Nelson cried, &#8220;Give me the</p><p>cannon!&#8221; and fired on his magnificent home himself, smashing it to bits. But Nelson&#8217;s sacrifice was not quite</p><p>over. He had raised $2 million for the Revolutionary cause by pledging his own estates. When the loans came</p><p>due, a newer peacetime Congress refused to honor them, and Nelson&#8217;s property was forfeited. He was never</p><p>reimbursed. He died, impoverished, a few years later at the age of 50.</p><p>Lives, Fortunes, Honor</p><p>Of those 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war.</p><p>Five were captured and imprisoned, in each case with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons or entire</p><p>families. One lost his 13 children. Two wives were brutally treated. All were at one time or another the victims</p><p>of manhunts and driven from their homes. Twelve signers had their homes completely burned. Seventeen lost</p><p>everything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word. Their honor, and the nation</p><p>they sacrificed so much to create is still intact.</p><p>And, finally, there is the New Jersey signer, Abraham Clark.</p><p>He gave two sons to the officer corps in the Revolutionary Army. They were</p><p>captured and sent to that infamous British prison hulk afloat in New York Harbor</p><p>known as the hell ship Jersey, where 11,000 American captives were to die. The</p><p>younger Clarks were treated with a special brutality because of their father. One</p><p>was put in solitary and given no food. With the end almost in sight, with the war</p><p>almost won, no one could have blamed Abraham Clark for acceding to the British</p><p>request when they offered him his sons&#8217; lives if he would recant and come out for</p><p>the King and Parliament. The utter despair in this man&#8217;s heart, the anguish in his</p><p>very soul, must reach out to each one of us down through 200 years with his</p><p>answer: &#8220;No.&#8221;</p><p>The 56 signers of the Declaration Of Independence proved by their every deed</p><p>that they made no idle boast when they composed the most magnificent curtain</p><p>line in history. &#8220;And for the support of this Declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divine</p><p>providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.&#8221;</p><p>My friends, I know you have a copy of the Declaration of Independence somewhere around the house &#8211; in an old</p><p>history book (newer ones may well omit it), an encyclopedia, or one of those artificially aged &#8220;parchments&#8221; we</p><p>all got in school years ago. I suggest that each of you take the time this month to read through the text of the</p><p>Declaration, one of the most noble and beautiful political documents in human history.</p><p>There is no more profound sentence than this: &#8220;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created</p><p>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life,</p><p>Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness&#8230;&#8221;</p><p>These are far more than mere poetic words. The underlying ideas that infuse every sentence of this treatise have</p><p>sustained this nation for more than two centuries. They were forged in the crucible of great sacrifice. They are</p><p>living words that spring from and satisfy the deepest cries for liberty in the human spirit.</p><p>&#8220;Sacred honor&#8221; isn&#8217;t a phrase we use much these days, but every American life is touched by the bounty of this,</p><p>the Founders&#8217; legacy. It is freedom, tested by blood, and watered with tears.</p><p>- Rush Limbaugh III&#8230;&#8221;<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('51219','softwarengineer','THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES AND MORE SIGNING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE\r\n\r\nThis came from our military fighting in Iraq:\r\n\r\n\&quot;....The Americans Who Risked Everything\r\n\r\nMy father, Rush H. Limbaugh, Jr., delivered this oft-requested address locally a number of times, but it had\r\n\r\nnever before appeared in print until it appeared in The Limbaugh Letter. My dad was renowned for his oratory\r\n\r\nskills and for his original mind; this speech is, I think, a superb demonstration of both. I will always be grateful\r\n\r\nto him for instilling in me a passion for the ideas and lives of America\'s Founders, as well as a deep\r\n\r\nappreciation for the inspirational power of words which you will see evidenced here:\r\n\r\n\&quot;Our Lives, Our Fortunes, Our Sacred Honor\&quot;\r\n\r\nIt was a glorious morning. The sun was shining and the wind was from the southeast. Up especially early, a tall\r\n\r\nbony, redheaded young Virginian found time to buy a new thermometer, for which he paid three pounds, fifteen\r\n\r\nshillings. He also bought gloves for Martha, his wife, who was ill at home.\r\n\r\nThomas Jefferson arrived early at the statehouse. The temperature was 72.5 degrees and the horseflies\r\n\r\nweren\'t nearly so bad at that hour. It was a lovely room, very large, with gleaming white walls. The chairs were\r\n\r\ncomfortable. Facing the single door were two brass fireplaces, but they would not be used today.\r\n\r\nThe moment the door was shut, and it was always kept locked, the room\r\n\r\nbecame an oven. The tall windows were shut, so that loud quarreling voices\r\n\r\ncould not be heard by passersby. Small openings atop the windows allowed\r\n\r\na slight stir of air, and also a large number of horseflies. Jefferson records\r\n\r\nthat \&quot;the horseflies were dexterous in finding necks, and the silk of\r\n\r\nstockings was nothing to them.\&quot; All discussing was punctuated by the slap\r\n\r\nof hands on necks.\r\n\r\nOn the wall at the back, facing the president\'s desk, was a panoply --\r\n\r\nconsisting of a drum, swords, and banners seized from Fort Ticonderoga\r\n\r\nthe previous year. Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold had captured the place,\r\n\r\nshouting that they were taking it \&quot;in the name of the Great Jehovah and the\r\n\r\nContinental Congress!\&quot;\r\n\r\nNow Congress got to work, promptly taking up an emergency measure\r\n\r\nabout which there was discussion but no dissension. \&quot;Resolved: That an\r\n\r\napplication be made to the Committee of Safety of Pennsylvania for a\r\n\r\nsupply of flints for the troops at New York.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThen Congress transformed itself into a committee of the whole. The Declaration of Independence was read\r\n\r\naloud once more, and debate resumed. Though Jefferson was the best writer of all of them, he had been\r\n\r\nsomewhat verbose. Congress hacked the excess away. They did a good job, as a side-by-side comparison of\r\n\r\nthe rough draft and the final text shows. They cut the phrase \&quot;by a self-assumed power.\&quot; \&quot;Climb\&quot; was replaced\r\n\r\nby \&quot;must read,\&quot; then \&quot;must\&quot; was eliminated, then the whole sentence, and soon the whole paragraph was cut.\r\n\r\nJefferson groaned as they continued what he later called \&quot;their depredations.\&quot; \&quot;Inherent and inalienable rights\&quot;\r\n\r\ncame out \&quot;certain unalienable rights,\&quot; and to this day no one knows who suggested the elegant change.\r\n\r\nA total of 86 alterations were made. Almost 500 words were eliminated, leaving 1,337. At last, after three days\r\n\r\nof wrangling, the document was put to a vote.\r\n\r\nHere in this hall Patrick Henry had once thundered: \&quot;I am no longer a Virginian, sir, but an American.\&quot; But\r\n\r\ntoday the loud, sometimes bitter argument stilled, and without fanfare the vote was taken from north to south\r\n\r\nby colonies, as was the custom. On July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was adopted.\r\n\r\nThere were no trumpets blown. No one stood on his chair and cheered. The afternoon was waning and\r\n\r\nCongress had no thought of delaying the full calendar of routine business on its hands. For several hours they\r\n\r\nworked on many other problems before adjourning for the day.\r\n\r\nMuch To Lose\r\n\r\nWhat kind of men were the 56 signers who adopted the Declaration of Independence and who, by their\r\n\r\nsigning, committed an act of treason against the crown? To each of you, the names Franklin, Adams, Hancock\r\n\r\nand Jefferson are almost as familiar as household words. Most of us, however, know nothing of the other\r\n\r\nsigners. Who were they? What happened to them?\r\n\r\nI imagine that many of you are somewhat surprised at the names not there: George Washington, Alexander\r\n\r\nHamilton, Patrick Henry. All were elsewhere.\r\n\r\nBen Franklin was the only really old man. Eighteen were under 40; three\r\n\r\nwere in their 20s. Of the 56 almost half - 24 - were judges and lawyers.\r\n\r\nEleven were merchants, nine were landowners and farmers, and the\r\n\r\nremaining 12 were doctors, ministers, and politicians.\r\n\r\nWith only a few exceptions, such as Samuel Adams of Massachusetts, these\r\n\r\nwere men of substantial property. All but two had families. The vast majority\r\n\r\nwere men of education and standing in their communities. They had\r\n\r\neconomic security as few men had in the 18th Century.\r\n\r\nEach had more to lose from revolution than he had to gain by it. John\r\n\r\nHancock, one of the richest men in America, already had a price of 500\r\n\r\npounds on his head. He signed in enormous letters so that his Majesty could\r\n\r\nnow read his name without glasses and could now double the reward. Ben\r\n\r\nFranklin wryly noted: \&quot;Indeed we must all hang together, otherwise we shall\r\n\r\nmost assuredly hang separately.\&quot;\r\n\r\nFat Benjamin Harrison of Virginia told tiny Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts:\r\n\r\n\&quot;With me it will all be over in a minute, but you, you will be dancing on air an\r\n\r\nhour after I am gone.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThese men knew what they risked. The penalty for treason was death by hanging. And remember, a great\r\n\r\nBritish fleet was already at anchor in New York Harbor.\r\n\r\nThey were sober men. There were no dreamy-eyed intellectuals or draft card burners here. They were far from\r\n\r\nhot-eyed fanatics yammering for an explosion. They simply asked for the status quo. It was change they\r\n\r\nresisted. It was equality with the mother country they desired. It was taxation with representation they sought.\r\n\r\nThey were all conservatives, yet they rebelled.\r\n\r\nIt was principle, not property, that had brought these men to Philadelphia. Two of them became presidents of\r\n\r\nthe United States. Seven of them became state governors. One died in office as vice president of the United\r\n\r\nStates. Several would go on to be U.S. Senators. One, the richest man in America, in 1828 founded the\r\n\r\nBaltimore and Ohio Railroad. One, a delegate from Philadelphia, was the only real poet, musician and\r\n\r\nphilosopher of the signers. (It was he, Francis Hopkinson not Betsy Ross who designed the United States flag.)\r\n\r\nRichard Henry Lee, a delegate from Virginia, had introduced the resolution to adopt the Declaration of\r\n\r\nIndependence in June of 1776. He was prophetic in his concluding remarks: \&quot;Why then sir, why do we longer\r\n\r\ndelay? Why still deliberate? Let this happy day give birth to an American Republic. Let her arise not to\r\n\r\ndevastate and to conquer but to reestablish the reign of peace and law.\r\n\r\n\&quot;The eyes of Europe are fixed upon us. She demands of us\r\n\r\na living example of freedom that may exhibit a contrast in the\r\n\r\nfelicity of the citizen to the ever-increasing tyranny which\r\n\r\ndesolates her polluted shores. She invites us to prepare an\r\n\r\nasylum where the unhappy may find solace, and the\r\n\r\npersecuted repost.\r\n\r\n\&quot;If we are not this day wanting in our duty, the names of the\r\n\r\nAmerican Legislatures of 1776 will be placed by posterity at\r\n\r\nthe side of all of those whose memory has been and ever\r\n\r\nwill be dear to virtuous men and good citizens.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThough the resolution was formally adopted July 4, it was not until July 8 that two of the states authorized their\r\n\r\ndelegates to sign, and it was not until August 2 that the signers met at Philadelphia to actually put their names\r\n\r\nto the Declaration.\r\n\r\nWilliam Ellery, delegate from Rhode Island, was curious to see the signers\' faces as they committed this\r\n\r\nsupreme act of personal courage. He saw some men sign quickly, \&quot;but in no face was he able to discern real\r\n\r\nfear.\&quot; Stephan Hopkins, Ellery\'s colleague from Rhode Island, was a man past 60. As he signed with a shaking\r\n\r\npen, he declared: \&quot;My hand trembles, but my heart does not.\&quot;\r\n\r\n\&quot;Most Glorious Service\&quot;\r\n\r\nEven before the list was published, the British marked down every member of Congress suspected of having\r\n\r\nput his name to treason. All of them became the objects of vicious manhunts. Some were taken. Some, like\r\n\r\nJefferson, had narrow escapes. All who had property or families near British strongholds suffered.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Francis Lewis, New York delegate saw his home\r\n\r\nplundered -- and his estates in what is now Harlem --\r\n\r\ncompletely destroyed by British Soldiers. Mrs. Lewis was\r\n\r\ncaptured and treated with great brutality. Though she\r\n\r\nwas later exchanged for two British prisoners through the\r\n\r\nefforts of Congress, she died from the effects of her\r\n\r\nabuse.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; William Floyd, another New York delegate, was able to\r\n\r\nescape with his wife and children across Long Island\r\n\r\nSound to Connecticut, where they lived as refugees\r\n\r\nwithout income for seven years. When they came home\r\n\r\nthey found a devastated ruin.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Philips Livingstone had all his great holdings in New York confiscated and his family driven out of their home.\r\n\r\nLivingstone died in 1778 still working in Congress for the cause.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Louis Morris, the fourth New York delegate, saw all his timber, crops, and livestock taken. For seven years he\r\n\r\nwas barred from his home and family.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; John Hart of Trenton, New Jersey, risked his life to return home to see his dying wife. Hessian soldiers rode\r\n\r\nafter him, and he escaped in the woods. While his wife lay on her deathbed, the soldiers ruined his farm and\r\n\r\nwrecked his homestead. Hart, 65, slept in caves and woods as he was hunted across the countryside. When at\r\n\r\nlong last, emaciated by hardship, he was able to sneak home, he found his wife had already been buried, and\r\n\r\nhis 13 children taken away. He never saw them again. He died a broken man in 1779, without ever finding his\r\n\r\nfamily.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Dr. John Witherspoon, signer, was president of the College of New Jersey, later called Princeton. The British\r\n\r\noccupied the town of Princeton, and billeted troops in the college. They trampled and burned the finest college\r\n\r\nlibrary in the country.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Judge Richard Stockton, another New Jersey delegate signer, had rushed back to his estate in an effort to\r\n\r\nevacuate his wife and children. The family found refuge with friends, but a Tory sympathizer betrayed them.\r\n\r\nJudge Stockton was pulled from bed in the night and brutally beaten by the arresting soldiers. Thrown into a\r\n\r\ncommon jail, he was deliberately starved. Congress finally arranged for Stockton\'s parole, but his health was\r\n\r\nruined. The judge was released as an invalid, when he could no longer harm the British cause. He returned\r\n\r\nhome to find his estate looted and did not live to see the triumph of the Revolution. His family was forced to live\r\n\r\noff charity.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Robert Morris, merchant prince of Philadelphia, delegate and signer, met\r\n\r\nWashington\'s appeals and pleas for money year after year. He made and\r\n\r\nraised arms and provisions which made it possible for Washington to cross\r\n\r\nthe Delaware at Trenton. In the process he lost 150 ships at sea, bleeding\r\n\r\nhis own fortune and credit almost dry.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; George Clymer, Pennsylvania signer, escaped with his family from their\r\n\r\nhome, but their property was completely destroyed by the British in the\r\n\r\nGermantown and Brandywine campaigns.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Dr. Benjamin Rush, also from Pennsylvania, was forced to flee to Maryland. As a heroic surgeon with the\r\n\r\narmy, Rush had several narrow escapes.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; John Martin, a Tory in his views previous to the debate, lived in a strongly loyalist area of Pennsylvania.\r\n\r\nWhen he came out for independence, most of his neighbors and even some of his relatives ostracized him. He\r\n\r\nwas a sensitive and troubled man, and many believed this action killed him. When he died in 1777, his last\r\n\r\nwords to his tormentors were: \&quot;Tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall acknowledge it &amp;#91;the\r\n\r\nsigning&amp;#93; to have been the most glorious service that I have ever rendered to my country.\&quot;\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; William Ellery, Rhode Island delegate, saw his property and home burned to the ground.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Thomas Lynch, Jr., South Carolina delegate, had his health broken from privation and exposures while\r\n\r\nserving as a company commander in the military. His doctors ordered him to seek a cure in the West Indies\r\n\r\nand on the voyage; he and his young bride were drowned at sea.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Edward Rutledge, Arthur Middleton, and Thomas Heyward, Jr., the other three South Carolina signers, were\r\n\r\ntaken by the British in the siege of Charleston. They were carried as\r\n\r\nprisoners of war to St. Augustine, Florida, where they were singled out\r\n\r\nfor indignities. They were exchanged at the end of the war, the British\r\n\r\nin the meantime having completely devastated their large\r\n\r\nlandholdings and estates.\r\n\r\n&Acirc;&middot; Thomas Nelson, signer of Virginia, was at the front in command of\r\n\r\nthe Virginia military forces. With British General Charles Cornwallis in\r\n\r\nYorktown, fire from 70 heavy American guns began to destroy\r\n\r\nYorktown piece by piece. Lord Cornwallis and his staff moved their\r\n\r\nheadquarters into Nelson\'s palatial home. While American cannonballs were making a shambles of the town,\r\n\r\nthe house of Governor Nelson remained untouched. Nelson turned in rage to the American gunners and\r\n\r\nasked, \&quot;Why do you spare my home?\&quot; They replied, \&quot;Sir, out of respect to you.\&quot; Nelson cried, \&quot;Give me the\r\n\r\ncannon!\&quot; and fired on his magnificent home himself, smashing it to bits. But Nelson\'s sacrifice was not quite\r\n\r\nover. He had raised $2 million for the Revolutionary cause by pledging his own estates. When the loans came\r\n\r\ndue, a newer peacetime Congress refused to honor them, and Nelson\'s property was forfeited. He was never\r\n\r\nreimbursed. He died, impoverished, a few years later at the age of 50.\r\n\r\nLives, Fortunes, Honor\r\n\r\nOf those 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war.\r\n\r\nFive were captured and imprisoned, in each case with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons or entire\r\n\r\nfamilies. One lost his 13 children. Two wives were brutally treated. All were at one time or another the victims\r\n\r\nof manhunts and driven from their homes. Twelve signers had their homes completely burned. Seventeen lost\r\n\r\neverything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word. Their honor, and the nation\r\n\r\nthey sacrificed so much to create is still intact.\r\n\r\nAnd, finally, there is the New Jersey signer, Abraham Clark.\r\n\r\nHe gave two sons to the officer corps in the Revolutionary Army. They were\r\n\r\ncaptured and sent to that infamous British prison hulk afloat in New York Harbor\r\n\r\nknown as the hell ship Jersey, where 11,000 American captives were to die. The\r\n\r\nyounger Clarks were treated with a special brutality because of their father. One\r\n\r\nwas put in solitary and given no food. With the end almost in sight, with the war\r\n\r\nalmost won, no one could have blamed Abraham Clark for acceding to the British\r\n\r\nrequest when they offered him his sons\' lives if he would recant and come out for\r\n\r\nthe King and Parliament. The utter despair in this man\'s heart, the anguish in his\r\n\r\nvery soul, must reach out to each one of us down through 200 years with his\r\n\r\nanswer: \&quot;No.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThe 56 signers of the Declaration Of Independence proved by their every deed\r\n\r\nthat they made no idle boast when they composed the most magnificent curtain\r\n\r\nline in history. \&quot;And for the support of this Declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divine\r\n\r\nprovidence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.\&quot;\r\n\r\nMy friends, I know you have a copy of the Declaration of Independence somewhere around the house - in an old\r\n\r\nhistory book (newer ones may well omit it), an encyclopedia, or one of those artificially aged \&quot;parchments\&quot; we\r\n\r\nall got in school years ago. I suggest that each of you take the time this month to read through the text of the\r\n\r\nDeclaration, one of the most noble and beautiful political documents in human history.\r\n\r\nThere is no more profound sentence than this: \&quot;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created\r\n\r\nequal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life,\r\n\r\nLiberty, and the pursuit of Happiness...\&quot;\r\n\r\nThese are far more than mere poetic words. The underlying ideas that infuse every sentence of this treatise have\r\n\r\nsustained this nation for more than two centuries. They were forged in the crucible of great sacrifice. They are\r\n\r\nliving words that spring from and satisfy the deepest cries for liberty in the human spirit.\r\n\r\n\&quot;Sacred honor\&quot; isn\'t a phrase we use much these days, but every American life is touched by the bounty of this,\r\n\r\nthe Founders\' legacy. It is freedom, tested by blood, and watered with tears.\r\n\r\n- Rush Limbaugh III...\&quot;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jon</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/04/independence-day-open-thread/#comment-51217</link> <dc:creator>jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:38:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51217</guid> <description>A fire came within 300 feet of my sisters house in California yesterday, so we are all grateful the fire didn&#039;t get closer, and I&#039;m grateful for our gorgeous, rainy mountain and lakes up here.God Bless America.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51217&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51217&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;A fire came within 300 feet of my sisters house in California yesterday, so we are all grateful the fire didn\&#039;t get closer, and I\&#039;m grateful for our gorgeous, rainy mountain and lakes up here.\r\n\r\nGod Bless America.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fire came within 300 feet of my sisters house in California yesterday, so we are all grateful the fire didn&#8217;t get closer, and I&#8217;m grateful for our gorgeous, rainy mountain and lakes up here.</p><p>God Bless America.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=2107#comment-51214</guid> <description>I&#039;m grateful for the wisdom of our founding fathers, first for Declaring Independence, and then creating one of the finest documents created by man, The Constitution of the United States.  In the First Amendment of our Constitution, is our Freedom of Speech.It&#039;s been tested here at times, here.   :)Happy Independence Day, everyone!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;51214&#039;,&#039;Greg Perry&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;51214&#039;,&#039;Greg Perry&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m grateful for the wisdom of our founding fathers, first for Declaring Independence, and then creating one of the finest documents created by man, The Constitution of the United States.  In the First Amendment of our Constitution, is our Freedom of Speech.  \r\n\r\nIt\&#039;s been tested here at times, here.   :)\r\n\r\nHappy Independence Day, everyone!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grateful for the wisdom of our founding fathers, first for Declaring Independence, and then creating one of the finest documents created by man, The Constitution of the United States.  In the First Amendment of our Constitution, is our Freedom of Speech.</p><p>It&#8217;s been tested here at times, here.   :)</p><p>Happy Independence Day, everyone!<div
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