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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59897</guid> <description>@11Joness -
I like your chart of the Japanese housing a bit better.  The Economist version uses land prices, not housing - which is not totally representative.  I pulled it more for the interest rate policy comparison than for the housing comparison.If you have the data underneath that &quot;6 largest cities&quot; line it would be interesting to make our own comparative version&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59897&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59897&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;@11\r\n\r\nJoness - \r\nI like your chart of the Japanese housing a bit better.  The Economist version uses land prices, not housing - which is not totally representative.  I pulled it more for the interest rate policy comparison than for the housing comparison.\r\n\r\nIf you have the data underneath that \&quot;6 largest cities\&quot; line it would be interesting to make our own comparative version&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@11</p><p>Joness &#8211;<br
/> I like your chart of the Japanese housing a bit better.  The Economist version uses land prices, not housing &#8211; which is not totally representative.  I pulled it more for the interest rate policy comparison than for the housing comparison.</p><p>If you have the data underneath that &#8220;6 largest cities&#8221; line it would be interesting to make our own comparative version<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59888</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Recession? What are you talking about, Thomas B.? Didnâ€™t you hear, Bernanke and friends cut rates to 1% today, saving us from recession. Crisis averted.</i></p><p>Yeap, nothing better to tackle smoking, than to make cigarettes cheaper.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59888','Buceri','&lt;i&gt;Recession? What are you talking about, Thomas B.? Didn&acirc;€™t you hear, Bernanke and friends cut rates to 1% today, saving us from recession. Crisis averted.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYeap, nothing better to tackle smoking, than to make cigarettes cheaper.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: On a clear day you can see the bottom</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59885</link> <dc:creator>On a clear day you can see the bottom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:35:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59885</guid> <description>I&#039;m just curious, but are the tiers syncronyzed in other cities? I don&#039;t know what it means either way, but it might be illuminating.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59885&#039;,&#039;On a clear day you can see the bottom&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59885&#039;,&#039;On a clear day you can see the bottom&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m just curious, but are the tiers syncronyzed in other cities? I don\&#039;t know what it means either way, but it might be illuminating.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just curious, but are the tiers syncronyzed in other cities? I don&#8217;t know what it means either way, but it might be illuminating.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59885','On a clear day you can see the bottom','I\'m just curious, but are the tiers syncronyzed in other cities? I don\'t know what it means either way, but it might be illuminating.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jonness</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59870</link> <dc:creator>jonness</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:35:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59870</guid> <description>@10Your House Prices graph shows the U.S. correcting dramatically faster than Japan and having ran up a lot higher. However, if you look at the 6 largest cities in Japan, you&#039;ll notice they ran up and corrected at a rate more similar to the U.S. This makes me wonder if we are not in line for a little faster correction initially with the overall trend still remaining down for many years to come?&lt;a href=&quot;http://housingcorrection.com/japan_housing_bubble.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Japan Bubble&lt;/a&gt;One thing I do notice is the higher the prices get out of whack, the faster they correct.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59870&#039;,&#039;jonness&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59870&#039;,&#039;jonness&#039;,&#039;@10\n\nYour House Prices graph shows the U.S. correcting dramatically faster than Japan and having ran up a lot higher. However, if you look at the 6 largest cities in Japan, you\&#039;ll notice they ran up and corrected at a rate more similar to the U.S. This makes me wonder if we are not in line for a little faster correction initially with the overall trend still remaining down for many years to come?\n\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/housingcorrection.com\/japan_housing_bubble.jpg\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Japan Bubble&lt;\/a&gt;\n\nOne thing I do notice is the higher the prices get out of whack, the faster they correct.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@10</p><p>Your House Prices graph shows the U.S. correcting dramatically faster than Japan and having ran up a lot higher. However, if you look at the 6 largest cities in Japan, you&#8217;ll notice they ran up and corrected at a rate more similar to the U.S. This makes me wonder if we are not in line for a little faster correction initially with the overall trend still remaining down for many years to come?</p><p><a
href="http://housingcorrection.com/japan_housing_bubble.jpg" rel="nofollow">Japan Bubble</a></p><p>One thing I do notice is the higher the prices get out of whack, the faster they correct.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59870','jonness','@10\n\nYour House Prices graph shows the U.S. correcting dramatically faster than Japan and having ran up a lot higher. However, if you look at the 6 largest cities in Japan, you\'ll notice they ran up and corrected at a rate more similar to the U.S. This makes me wonder if we are not in line for a little faster correction initially with the overall trend still remaining down for many years to come?\n\n&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/housingcorrection.com\/japan_housing_bubble.jpg\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Japan Bubble&lt;\/a&gt;\n\nOne thing I do notice is the higher the prices get out of whack, the faster they correct.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: deejayoh</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59837</link> <dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59837</guid> <description>Go ZIRP!http://media.economist.com/images/20080823/CFN7601.gif&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59837&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59837&#039;,&#039;deejayoh&#039;,&#039;Go ZIRP!\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/media.economist.com\/images\/20080823\/CFN7601.gif&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ZIRP!</p><p><a
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59833</guid> <description>Recession?  What are you talking about, Thomas B.?  Didn&#039;t you hear, Bernanke and friends cut rates to 1% today, saving us from recession.  Crisis averted.I know its true because I read it in the news: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&amp;sid=awpa6f1vDwlg&amp;refer=home&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fed Cuts Rate to 1% to Avert Prolonged Recession&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59833&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59833&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;Recession?  What are you talking about, Thomas B.?  Didn\&#039;t you hear, Bernanke and friends cut rates to 1% today, saving us from recession.  Crisis averted.\r\n\r\nI know its true because I read it in the news: &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=20601068&amp;sid=awpa6f1vDwlg&amp;refer=home\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Fed Cuts Rate to 1% to Avert Prolonged Recession&lt;\/a&gt;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recession?  What are you talking about, Thomas B.?  Didn&#8217;t you hear, Bernanke and friends cut rates to 1% today, saving us from recession.  Crisis averted.</p><p>I know its true because I read it in the news: <a
href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&#038;sid=awpa6f1vDwlg&#038;refer=home" rel="nofollow">Fed Cuts Rate to 1% to Avert Prolonged Recession</a><div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59833','The Tim','Recession?  What are you talking about, Thomas B.?  Didn\'t you hear, Bernanke and friends cut rates to 1% today, saving us from recession.  Crisis averted.\r\n\r\nI know its true because I read it in the news: &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/apps\/news?pid=20601068&amp;sid=awpa6f1vDwlg&amp;refer=home\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Fed Cuts Rate to 1% to Avert Prolonged Recession&lt;\/a&gt;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas B.</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59832</link> <dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:10:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59832</guid> <description>I believe Seattle is far from the bottom.  Prices still don&#039;t make sense.  People are still listing properties at unsustainable prices.See:  http://www.redfin.com/WA/Issaquah/4350-W-Lake-Sammamish-Pkwy-SE-98027/unit-135/home/6016Condos going for the high $200Ks is not a reasonable price.  In 2004, this condo sold for $190K, which is more reasonable.  If people would just list at prices close to the 2004 numbers, then I think people will start buying.  With banks now having higher credit requirements, the recession, and the upcoming mortgage reform, the pool of people willing and &lt;i&gt;able&lt;/i&gt; to buy has shrunk and will continue to shrink.  I think it would be in the best interest of sellers and realtors to accept the fact that the pool of buyers has permanently shrunk and price accordingly.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59832&#039;,&#039;Thomas B.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59832&#039;,&#039;Thomas B.&#039;,&#039;I believe Seattle is far from the bottom.  Prices still don\&#039;t make sense.  People are still listing properties at unsustainable prices.  \r\n\r\nSee:  http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/WA\/Issaquah\/4350-W-Lake-Sammamish-Pkwy-SE-98027\/unit-135\/home\/6016\r\n\r\nCondos going for the high $200Ks is not a reasonable price.  In 2004, this condo sold for $190K, which is more reasonable.  If people would just list at prices close to the 2004 numbers, then I think people will start buying.  With banks now having higher credit requirements, the recession, and the upcoming mortgage reform, the pool of people willing and &lt;i&gt;able&lt;\/i&gt; to buy has shrunk and will continue to shrink.  I think it would be in the best interest of sellers and realtors to accept the fact that the pool of buyers has permanently shrunk and price accordingly.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Seattle is far from the bottom.  Prices still don&#8217;t make sense.  People are still listing properties at unsustainable prices.</p><p>See: <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Issaquah/4350-W-Lake-Sammamish-Pkwy-SE-98027/unit-135/home/6016" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/WA/Issaquah/4350-W-Lake-Sammamish-Pkwy-SE-98027/unit-135/home/6016</a></p><p>Condos going for the high $200Ks is not a reasonable price.  In 2004, this condo sold for $190K, which is more reasonable.  If people would just list at prices close to the 2004 numbers, then I think people will start buying.  With banks now having higher credit requirements, the recession, and the upcoming mortgage reform, the pool of people willing and <i>able</i> to buy has shrunk and will continue to shrink.  I think it would be in the best interest of sellers and realtors to accept the fact that the pool of buyers has permanently shrunk and price accordingly.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59832','Thomas B.','I believe Seattle is far from the bottom.  Prices still don\'t make sense.  People are still listing properties at unsustainable prices.  \r\n\r\nSee:  http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/WA\/Issaquah\/4350-W-Lake-Sammamish-Pkwy-SE-98027\/unit-135\/home\/6016\r\n\r\nCondos going for the high $200Ks is not a reasonable price.  In 2004, this condo sold for $190K, which is more reasonable.  If people would just list at prices close to the 2004 numbers, then I think people will start buying.  With banks now having higher credit requirements, the recession, and the upcoming mortgage reform, the pool of people willing and &lt;i&gt;able&lt;\/i&gt; to buy has shrunk and will continue to shrink.  I think it would be in the best interest of sellers and realtors to accept the fact that the pool of buyers has permanently shrunk and price accordingly.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59826</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:39:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59826</guid> <description>wall street journal has &quot;Economists Predict Home Prices Will Bottom Next Year&quot; http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122522301876377101.html?mod=article-outset-box&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59826&#039;,&#039;Kevin&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59826&#039;,&#039;Kevin&#039;,&#039;wall street journal has \&quot;Economists Predict Home Prices Will Bottom Next Year\&quot; http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB122522301876377101.html?mod=article-outset-box&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wall street journal has &#8220;Economists Predict Home Prices Will Bottom Next Year&#8221; <a
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59826','Kevin','wall street journal has \&quot;Economists Predict Home Prices Will Bottom Next Year\&quot; http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB122522301876377101.html?mod=article-outset-box',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Tim</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59812</link> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59812</guid> <description>Ardell,From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.standardandpoors.com/spf/pdf/index/SP_CS_Home_Price_Indices_Methodology_Web.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the methodology pdf&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;For the purpose of constructing the three tier indices, price breakpoints between low-tier and middle-tier properties and price breakpoints between middle-tier and upper-tier properties are computed using all sales for each period, so that there are the same number of sales, after accounting for exclusions, in each of the three tiers. The breakpoints are smoothed through time to eliminate seasonal and other transient variation. Each repeat sale pair is then allocated to one of the three tiers depending on first sale price, resulting in a repeat sales pairs data set divided into thirds.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59812&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59812&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;Ardell,\r\n\r\nFrom &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www2.standardandpoors.com\/spf\/pdf\/index\/SP_CS_Home_Price_Indices_Methodology_Web.pdf\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;the methodology pdf&lt;\/a&gt;:\r\n&lt;blockquote&gt;For the purpose of constructing the three tier indices, price breakpoints between low-tier and middle-tier properties and price breakpoints between middle-tier and upper-tier properties are computed using all sales for each period, so that there are the same number of sales, after accounting for exclusions, in each of the three tiers. The breakpoints are smoothed through time to eliminate seasonal and other transient variation. Each repeat sale pair is then allocated to one of the three tiers depending on first sale price, resulting in a repeat sales pairs data set divided into thirds.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,</p><p>From <a
href="http://www2.standardandpoors.com/spf/pdf/index/SP_CS_Home_Price_Indices_Methodology_Web.pdf" rel="nofollow">the methodology pdf</a>:</p><blockquote><p>For the purpose of constructing the three tier indices, price breakpoints between low-tier and middle-tier properties and price breakpoints between middle-tier and upper-tier properties are computed using all sales for each period, so that there are the same number of sales, after accounting for exclusions, in each of the three tiers. The breakpoints are smoothed through time to eliminate seasonal and other transient variation. Each repeat sale pair is then allocated to one of the three tiers depending on first sale price, resulting in a repeat sales pairs data set divided into thirds.</p></blockquote><div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59812','The Tim','Ardell,\r\n\r\nFrom &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www2.standardandpoors.com\/spf\/pdf\/index\/SP_CS_Home_Price_Indices_Methodology_Web.pdf\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;the methodology pdf&lt;\/a&gt;:\r\n&lt;blockquote&gt;For the purpose of constructing the three tier indices, price breakpoints between low-tier and middle-tier properties and price breakpoints between middle-tier and upper-tier properties are computed using all sales for each period, so that there are the same number of sales, after accounting for exclusions, in each of the three tiers. The breakpoints are smoothed through time to eliminate seasonal and other transient variation. Each repeat sale pair is then allocated to one of the three tiers depending on first sale price, resulting in a repeat sales pairs data set divided into thirds.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ardell DellaLoggia</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59811</link> <dc:creator>Ardell DellaLoggia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59811</guid> <description>The Tim,Can you provide a link to, or describe for me, what constitutes the parameters for the tiers?  If it is sold price, what are the price breaks from tier to tier?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59811&#039;,&#039;Ardell DellaLoggia&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59811&#039;,&#039;Ardell DellaLoggia&#039;,&#039;The Tim,\r\n\r\nCan you provide a link to, or describe for me, what constitutes the parameters for the tiers?  If it is sold price, what are the price breaks from tier to tier?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tim,</p><p>Can you provide a link to, or describe for me, what constitutes the parameters for the tiers?  If it is sold price, what are the price breaks from tier to tier?<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59799</guid> <description>Is the (historical) information available to put average rental rates using Jan 00 as 100?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59799&#039;,&#039;casey1167&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59799&#039;,&#039;casey1167&#039;,&#039;Is the (historical) information available to put average rental rates using Jan 00 as 100?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the (historical) information available to put average rental rates using Jan 00 as 100?<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59797</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;As another aside, do you think most of the talking heads actual believe what they are saying/writing or is it just part of their job?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.&quot; Upton Sinclair&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59797&#039;,&#039;Buceri&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59797&#039;,&#039;Buceri&#039;,&#039;&lt;i&gt;As another aside, do you think most of the talking heads actual believe what they are saying\/writing or is it just part of their job?&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\n\&quot;It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.\&quot; Upton Sinclair&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As another aside, do you think most of the talking heads actual believe what they are saying/writing or is it just part of their job?</i></p><p>&#8220;It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.&#8221; Upton Sinclair<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('59797','Buceri','&lt;i&gt;As another aside, do you think most of the talking heads actual believe what they are saying\/writing or is it just part of their job?&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\n\&quot;It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.\&quot; Upton Sinclair',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LeftOverpricedSeattle</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/29/case-shiller-tiers-synchronized-dropping/#comment-59796</link> <dc:creator>LeftOverpricedSeattle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:01:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59796</guid> <description>I think most talking heads are too busy drinking their own kool-aid to really see what&#039;s happening.  It&#039;s like the &quot;It can&#039;t happen here&quot; mantra proclaimed by those who are refusing to see the handwriting on the wall.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59796&#039;,&#039;LeftOverpricedSeattle&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59796&#039;,&#039;LeftOverpricedSeattle&#039;,&#039;I think most talking heads are too busy drinking their own kool-aid to really see what\&#039;s happening.  It\&#039;s like the \&quot;It can\&#039;t happen here\&quot; mantra proclaimed by those who are refusing to see the handwriting on the wall.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most talking heads are too busy drinking their own kool-aid to really see what&#8217;s happening.  It&#8217;s like the &#8220;It can&#8217;t happen here&#8221; mantra proclaimed by those who are refusing to see the handwriting on the wall.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=3172#comment-59793</guid> <description>I guess except for The Tim, Seattle Bubble likes to sleep in.  Perhaps you are all too busy watching CNBC or something.  Is it correct to view the bottom tier as a leading indicator due to people attempting to &quot;move up&quot; yadda yadda yadda.  Or is it more of a regional phenomona whereby lower tier houses tend to be clustered outside the city or in lower economic status neighborhoods so they are harder hit.On another note, just a public shout out to Seattle Bubble for saving (and making) me untold amounts of money in this once in a lifetime housing event.  This blog and the people who comment here have been consistently ahead of &quot;the professionals&quot; at every step of the way.  As another aside, do you think most of the talking heads actual believe what they are saying/writing or is it just part of their job?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;59793&#039;,&#039;Teacher_Greg&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;59793&#039;,&#039;Teacher_Greg&#039;,&#039;I guess except for The Tim, Seattle Bubble likes to sleep in.  Perhaps you are all too busy watching CNBC or something.  Is it correct to view the bottom tier as a leading indicator due to people attempting to \&quot;move up\&quot; yadda yadda yadda.  Or is it more of a regional phenomona whereby lower tier houses tend to be clustered outside the city or in lower economic status neighborhoods so they are harder hit. \r\n\r\nOn another note, just a public shout out to Seattle Bubble for saving (and making) me untold amounts of money in this once in a lifetime housing event.  This blog and the people who comment here have been consistently ahead of \&quot;the professionals\&quot; at every step of the way.  As another aside, do you think most of the talking heads actual believe what they are saying\/writing or is it just part of their job?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess except for The Tim, Seattle Bubble likes to sleep in.  Perhaps you are all too busy watching CNBC or something.  Is it correct to view the bottom tier as a leading indicator due to people attempting to &#8220;move up&#8221; yadda yadda yadda.  Or is it more of a regional phenomona whereby lower tier houses tend to be clustered outside the city or in lower economic status neighborhoods so they are harder hit.</p><p>On another note, just a public shout out to Seattle Bubble for saving (and making) me untold amounts of money in this once in a lifetime housing event.  This blog and the people who comment here have been consistently ahead of &#8220;the professionals&#8221; at every step of the way.  As another aside, do you think most of the talking heads actual believe what they are saying/writing or is it just part of their job?<div
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