Property History
Date Event Price Appreciation Source
Dec 05, 2008 Relisted — — NWMLS #28090235
Nov 22, 2008 Off Redfin — — NWMLS #28090235
Oct 18, 2008 Price Changed $899,000 — NWMLS #28090235
Jul 15, 2008 Price Changed $919,500 — NWMLS #28090235
May 23, 2008 Listed $945,000 — NWMLS #28090235
Jul 24, 2001 Sold $649,000 — Public Records

Why would the property go off the list and come back to the list at the same price two weeks later?

Regards
AS

Now be careful of those subaru drivers they might just be out to get you.

No actually a BMW 3 series but I don’t think there is anything wrong with a subaru – I take it you do.

BTW I know something else that is hollow and it is on your shoulders :-)

Trees have this really weird tendency, I do not know why, if you bulldoze their roots to put in utilities/foundations and such things that some creatures require in order to build their dwellings the trees die.

since you are such an expert tell us how many species of cedar there are.

me personally I use to live in wedgwood on 85th and had a cedar in my front yard which I had two people at the UW arboretum come out and look at, they estimated it was 100 years old + or – 10 years, and also said that it was very healthy, cedars tends to have deep root systems not like hemlocks etc… so let the wind blow that up your fanny.

And Bantering Bear–In regards to tree removal around houses, I was referring to rural settlers, not to urban development in forested areas. If you look at blowdowns of 100′+ tall fir trees, it is shocking to see how shallow the root systems often are (because there is so much water available near the surface, the roots needn’t go any deeper to find it). Just because people have built houses in the forest doesn’t mean that it’s safe. Personally I love how it looks and feels, but from a safety standpoint it isn’t a good idea.

Are you kidding me?

You better not get in your car and drive because there is these things called auto accidents where people die. If you want I can send you some documented cases as examples.

http://www.mediatechanalyst.com/2008/11/microsoft-to-layoff-contract-workers.html

Gee, I guess that Ben Bernanke is a shifty, hippie professor… definitely not a Wall Street finance kinda guy.

Do any of you bloggers have a short/long term fix for the economy that includes more population growth and credit crisis?

I know, nada.

I think we should put the American kids in charge of Obama’s economic team, you know, the ones we threw all the overpopulation debt on.

I see more wolf bankers in those positions and it ain’t gonna get better in my book, with same old same old…..

The only way to keep the limited in-city greenery as we know it today is to stop population growth. And we all know that isn’t going to happen.

How much to you think the population of Seattle has increased in the last 30 years? It’s not that much, maybe 10-15%. Nothing that can’t be solved through increased density in under developed areas.

On a 24 unit apartment that I had done for myself two years ago there were two gorgeous cedars about 25 feet from the existing house. When they were cut down, they were both completely hollow inside. The lumber company said if the winds were big enough these huge trees would have wrecked that home or the neighbours property.

Just an example at you.

What is there to SMILE about if you have to cut down a tree? And for those that think everything is still so green in Seattle or that it is was done right in the past — Have YOU ever been to Ballard? The city finally got a clue a few years ago and decided to plant some trees before than the only vertical wood was the poles for the power lines.

The only way to keep the limited in-city greenery as we know it today is to stop population growth. And we all know that isn’t going to happen. What we can do is to keep pressure on our city council to ensure that green space is preserved, if not increased. (As is the case in Ballard)

Fortunately, we’re home to several architectural firms that are world renown for their environmental activism. If there is anything good that will come out of this RE boom, it will be the rapid spread of “green” building standards throughout the country. As for suburban sprawl… Some of you will wince at the idea, but Seattle (Bellevue, Redmond) needs to increase density to accommodate growth. This can be achieved in an eco-friendly manner; albeit at a higher cost to the developers. But if you as a customer demand greener products (homes / condos), then developers will tow the line. Don’t let it be the other way around.

“RedmondJp is absolutely correct. While trees are replanted by code requirements it is safer to not have trees within 30-40 feet of the home. So when you have compacted lots, there is no way for them to stay. :)”

What is there to SMILE about if you have to cut down a tree? And for those that think everything is still so green in Seattle or that it is was done right in the past — Have YOU ever been to Ballard? The city finally got a clue a few years ago and decided to plant some trees before than the only vertical wood was the poles for the power lines.

Your website details you business – to get someone to hand you 5-8% of their value of their home. Actually, I think that your entire crew is useless. The real estate business should be performed on-line. I would restructure the entire business. Flat fee mortgage applications – destroy the brokers. Flat fee ($500)commissions – kill Real Estate Agent overblown commissions. That way we can take cancerous real estate agents/mortgage brokers out of the equation.

Actually, no commissions for any of you. Let the buyers and sellers take the 5% and reduce the price. That way the buyer and sellers figure out their deal.

These people drive around and show people homes. Why even bother with a Real Estate Agent????? What do they really do? They are not engineers or the people that built the home. They are glossy faced people that want their 5%.

Dump your Real Estate Agents. Go directly to zillow, craigslist, and redfin.

Amarjit
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OK I get it now, the new cool on RE blogs is to try to outroubini Roubini instead of trying to revert back to fundamentals like price/rent and income/price, I know when to say when

What are you talking about? Your assertations are based on certain unstated assumptions that may or may not be true. Is the possibility of rising unemployment, falling wages and falling rents just so outlandish that it is not worth discussing?

Every development I have seen removes trees only when needed. Too badly it is more often needed then not.

Joel, How is it being a deplitist come into this?

You don’t seem understand. I was using your own argument to show how hypocritical you are. Get it? You’re whining about whiners. That makes you a whiner.

1) The combination of tall evergreen trees (which are plentiful in the urban area here), especially individual ones or small groups that have no protection from the south-westerly winds that we often get, and stick-built homes or condos is simply asking for trouble. Having ancestors that homesteaded in WA around 100-110 years ago, I have seen several of those original sites, and it was common practice to clear an area of all timber for several hundred feet around the house. My parents both own timberland that they inherited, and they lose trees every time there is a big windstorm in the area. During the Nov-December 2006 storm here in Redmond, my neighbor’s tall cedar trees both lost one of their two tops (both of them had twin tops which split about 35 feet up). It was a miracle that nobody was hurt, and both tops (about 10″ thick at the base each) dropped parallel to each other, right between two houses and just a few feet outside of my neighbors’ bedroom.

2) Developers often are required to replant new trees, and this can be done in a planned fashion over the entire development which will result in a unified and aesthetically-pleasing result (if their landscaping designers are any good), even if it takes a number of years for the trees to mature.

Beards are a very important part of computer science, so its good that you have an allowance for tech nerds in your hate.

http://seattlest.com/attachments/seattle_david2/hippie.jpg

Probably without intention these are the truest words ever written about Real Estate and they have been written a thousand times. I think most people who read blogs, like this one are pretty new to Real Estate. It’s a great an beautiful thing. It’s a great business.

Yes, when you buy a property it goes down in value. Wear and tear, economic, or functional obsolescence begin from the moment the papers are signed. The value is in the land and what you can do with the land. The structure has a foundation foot print that exists plus any improvements or expansion.

You are much better off buying raw land. So right now the best deals are in agricultural land and financing is abundant.

In terms of buying a house there are some very good deals in the market place today. Many will never see the market, but some do. My best examples are all the people who have owned places forever with the idea they would sell some day. They may be close to retirement and watching their entire portfolio slipping away. It would be better to sell a property now and bank the cash. Rental income is off set by maintenance and dropping home prices.

You don’t have to care about the dropping price if you believe that over the course of time the value will rise to the price you paid. You can be selective and buy what you really want rather than compete with others.

Real Estate is a negotiation between individuals. We all have a level of motivation.

Amarjit
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We are experiencing asset deflation. In such an environment, cash becomes inreasingly more valuable than assets. Now is the worse time ever to trade your cash for highly leveraged depreciating assets. Wait until the fundamentals re-align, then start searching for an overshot bottom. That’s where the deals will be.

What’s happening to WA right now has already happened in other states. We are fortunate in that we have a template that shows exactly what to expect–depreciation for years on end.

(close parentheses – easily could crash a good potty-mouthed-word-swicharoo routine)

Anyhoo, the depreciation is in the roof, HVAC, etc. The work of the babies and dogs can be cleaned up with steam cleaning, and the beards can be shaved off in 15 minutes, though I don’t know how that all relates together.

I also don’t understand about the redneck hippies, Andy? I’ve seen rednecks and I’ve see hippies, but they never seem to be in the same room together (the rednecks can’t stand the smell of pachoulie and B.O. and the hippies can’t stand to hear common sense and also they don’t like the smell of B.O. (even when the rednecks are not in the same room), and it’s all even worse down in Pierce County, apparently …..

‘both will piss and defecate all over this home’

I’m looking in Gig Harbor, and let me tell you that the brokers there are freaking desperate. No homes have sold over $500K last month. I think the lone retards who did buy in October are already handing in their keys. Real Estate Agents should tell their customers to hold off. DONT BUY! Lets wait for the next 50%!

Think about it: This area is (Pierce County) is full of passive aggressive, wannabe hard ass, relatively poor, redneck, beard loving, ultra-thin emo liberal hippies. Just to get back to this beard totting culture – I think it is a prop for looking tough. Working on Wall Street, no one will wear a beard. It is shifty, reeks, and you look like a wannabe (exceedingly lazy) hippie professor. I cannot understand why businessmen in this area carry it on. It’s fundamentally ugly. I can understand why techy types will wear this: Mainly b/c they don’t care about a thing – and b/c they have a skillset that is not easily taken away – aka they don’t have to sell anything – so why worry about appearance. However, all you business guys should get a clue. Dump the beard and bring back professionalism. No one in the military wears beards either. Disgusting!

How are these people getting loans? The few of us who are high-end business professionals, business owners, and educated can’t even afford a “real” home. My wife and I will earn well over $300K and both firmly believe that you should not have to spend more than 15% of your Net Income on a home.

We can rent the same crappy home for far less than buying.

The funny thing is that homeowners are all telling us “on-the-fencer’s” that its such a good time or “rates are so low.” They are trying to put a floor on this overpriced “non-liquid” liability. They want to save their hides.

Please save me. I’m a homeowner that took out a $200K HELOC and spent it all…..lol!!!!!!!

thx

I have a direct relationship to development on more plains then will go into.

That explains a lot.

Tired of whiners about trees, water, storm runoff, small lots and blah blah blah blah….
Want to be an earthie? Move to a ranch in Utah or E. WA. You are in a suburban and urban area. Get used to it. Stop whining.”

This is the kind of myopic view which has brought us to where we are. We need to root out this sort of incompetence, to better serve the environment and it’s inhabitants.

Tired of whiners about trees, water, storm runoff, small lots and blah blah blah blah….
Want to be an earthie? Move to a ranch in Utah or E. WA. You are in a suburban and urban area. Get used to it. Stop whining.