Posted by: The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

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  1. Interesting about Thurston… I remember looking at homes once in Lacey thinking they were ridiculously overpriced and the agent was trying to tell me how easy the commute to Seattle was.

    Umm… yeah….

    I keep thinking of all those people who bought at or near the peak that are going to be living in their homes, paying a lot more than their new neighbors, for YEARS to come in Seattle.

    New C/S is out…. ouch!

  2. My understanding is that Olympia looks much better than Thurston County. County includes Horizion Point development that recently had 57 lot/properties (I think this is the number) in foreclosure. Thurston as a whole did not see the dramatic upswings that were found in King/Sno and as you pointed out, there is a higher percentage of government jobs. Would be interesting to see one of your analysis on the Thurston market in detail.

  3. Pierce is interesting… I was in the Graham/South Hill/Puyallup neighborhoods a couple of months ago and couldn’t help but notice all the unsold houses. The 7.2 month supply is surprising. They must have either sold a lot of houses lately, or a lot of houses were pulled off the market. Either way, I think there is something suspicious about the 7.2 months of supply number.

  4. Um, maybe Olympia is special and a world class city? Ergo, it’s not subject to the whims of housing crashes the way a lesser city like Seattle is.

  5. RE: rose-colored-coolaid @ 4

    Just trying to say that maybe Olympia will fall less because it went up less. Not immune, just not as volatile. Relax dude.

  6. Anybody else wonder if the King MOS numbers are lower than they should be because it is calculated with SFH numbers only, rather than including condos/multi-family dwellings which I assume are a much larger percentage of King county’s housing stock than the others?

  7. At another level of detail, here are some data on local Seattle neighborhoods I follow — Ballard (area 705), Magnolia (area 700) and Capitol Hill (area 390). This merely tracks NWMLS median SFH numbers from August ‘07 which is pretty near the peak.
    Area 705: August ‘07-$494,500: January ‘09-$381,500: Percent drop: -23%
    Area 700: August ‘07-$692,000: January ‘09-$550,000: Percent drop: -22%
    Area 390: August ‘07-$650,000: January ‘09-$486,500: Percent drop: -25%

    Just sharing what I’m tracking…

  8. RE: Jake @ 6 – King county is a very big county, so I wouldn’t make any such assumption.

    The thing is, the comparison to January 2008 really understates the problem, because January 2008 was a relatively horrible month–until the post bailout talk months.

  9. Wrong thread–sorry.

  10. I’m not surprised. And I’m not complaining. As a Seattle based agent, this last couple of months have been my best to date in my career. I have no complaints. This economy’s been good to me!

  11. Tim, how hard would it be to create a chart that gives King County SFR volume data for each month, with a separate line for 2006, 2007 and 2008? If you don’t have ready access to the numbers I could give them to you. But I think that would clearly show the declines that have occurred, taking seasonality out of it because each January could be compared to the other Januarys’ data, etc.

  12. Yes, apparently I am, thanks! But perhaps that one is a case of information overload. With just the three years what is happening now with volume would be a bit more apparent.

  13. Thurston is certainly holding its own…for now…those living in Thurston County are probably living in one of the last US housing bubbles to deflate.

    BUT the legislature is still in session and the state budget has yet to be finalized. Just wait until state agencies start laying people off in droves in the next several months…

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