Posted by: Timothy Ellis (The Tim)

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

25 responses to “Local Unemployment Nearly on Par with National Rate”

  1. Ray Pepper

    Optimism? You don’t need to look any further then todays NEWS:

    Fed to purchase up to 300 Billion of Longer-Term Treasury Securities over next 6 months!!

    Now that is Bullish!!

    Money going directly where there funds are needed and should stabilize the patient.

    “The Fed will employ all available tools to promote economic recovery and to preserve price stability”

    Just a HUGE HUGE DAY!

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  2. Kary L. Krismer

    I wonder how much of this is due to small/medium size businesses either not being able to get loans, or being concerned they won’t be able to in the future?

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  3. Ray Pepper

    The FED could care less about inflation now. As I like to say at the Muckleshoot Poker Room:

    “I’m all in”

    The Fed is saying the same.

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  4. Scotsman

    My god, look at the slope of those curves- unprecedented and seemingly abating.

    “To infinity- and beyond!!”

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  5. Scotsman

    Um, make that “unabating”. What happened to my edit function?

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  6. deejayoh

    I think the only potential glimmer of hope is that unemployment is a lagging indicator of economic activity. Usually by the time it peaks the economy is already back in growth mode. As an indicator of future potential it has very little predictive value.

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  7. Ray Pepper

    RE: deejayoh @ 6
    100% correct!

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  8. jon

    Financing the federal deficit by paying for it with newly printed money. What could go wrong?

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  9. jon

    Sniglet must be busy recording a new podcast explaining how the dollar plunging against all other currencies is deflationary.

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  10. Scotsman

    Sorry guys, but $300 billion is a drop in the bucket up against already guaranteed trillion dollar deficits and the additional trillions of planned federal programs that haven’t been finalized yet. Oh, and lets add in the tens of trillions of lost wealth over the last year or so. This might take the S+P to 850 and the Dow to 9000, but then it’s all down hill again. We’re seeing the last desperate efforts to save a sinking ship, the expected solid mid plunge rally one expects in a bear market. But we haven’t seen a single fundamental change in the economy as a whole. This rally will be carried by the coming change in mark-to-market accounting requirements (April?) but by early summer it’s off to the bottom again. The people are being played by the politicians and their banker friends.

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  11. SeattleMoose

    Well, the commute has noticeably improved…..

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  12. Kary L. Krismer

    RE: SeattleMoose @ 11 – After we build all those roads with the stimulus money it will be even better! By then there just might not be anyone who can afford to drive on them.

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  13. jon

    In addition to the $300B in treasury bills, the Fed is also pumping $850B into mortgage backed securities and Freddie/Fannie debt. That’s enough money being freed up to pay about $200K for every house now for sale on the market. I’d say that is a pretty big change in the economy.

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  14. S-Crow

    Mortgage Interest rates will probably fall (improve) very soon due to the massive MBS purchases announced today.

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  15. Objectivity

    WHAT A JOKE!!!


    Crap like this will only prolong the pain.

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  16. Ray Pepper

    RE: S-Crow @ 14

    “Probably”—try “WILL FALL” but will the people see it or will it line the pockets of the Mtg Reps?

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  17. dancingeek

    If past performance is any indication of where we are headed this time, we could easily end up seeing 15% unemployment here in King County before things start to improve.

    The Tim, what is this 15% projection based upon? Are you talking about the U6 number (unlikely since it’s unknown) or the U3 number? U3 hitting 15% sounds pretty dire…

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  18. Objectivity

    Great Ray-

    Now more people can qualify for loans on over-priced homes, and lose their shirts when the house of cards eventually falls.

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  19. WestSideBilly

    RE: dancingeek @ 17 – He meant the U3 number. U6 is already over 15%, probably closer to 20% in King County.

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  20. Ray Pepper

    RE: Objectivity @ 18RE: Objectivity @ 18

    dont shoot the messenger. I agree. Much of this will delay the inevitable……..All this crap still has to go back to the banks..either this year, next, or thereafter.

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  21. Scotsman

    Sorry, Ray, but I think it’s all going back to your savings/wallet, not the banks. Unless you don’t pay taxes.

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  22. Ray Pepper

    RE: Scotsman @ 21

    Please explain?

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  23. Mikal

    RE: dancingeek @ 17 – If dollars are being dumped into the system then it will artificially make house values remain constant or increase due to inflation. Correct? There were a number of people here claiming that the fed would not do this. Yet Bernanke on 60 minutes claimed to be doing exactly that.

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  24. Today: Fed announces $750 Billion to purchase Freddie & Fannie MBS. | Seattle Bubble — News & discussion about real estate & the housing bubble in the Seattle area.

    [...] With that in mind, the additional $750 Billion in stimulus is meant to drop the rates to such attractive levels that it will encourage home sales and refinance activity. The sales going forward will theoretically place a building block or foundation for holding values at a point that will at least slow or level off further declines. This is a positive development for those both refinancing and for sellers, if it can take root. Whether or not it will take root remains to be seen due to many other factors. [...]

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  25. Herman

    Inflation protected bonds jumped in value by 5% today.

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