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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=4891#comment-69601</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-69598&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 5&lt;/a&gt; -If I stand aside, will the government clean my teenage daughter&#039;s room?Will the hazmat team use that cool yellow caution tape?   ;-)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;69601&#039;,&#039;Scotsman&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;69601&#039;,&#039;Scotsman&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-69598\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 5&lt;\/a&gt; -\r\n\r\nIf I stand aside, will the government clean my teenage daughter\&#039;s room?\r\n\r\nWill the hazmat team use that cool yellow caution tape?   ;-)&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a
href='#comment-69598' rel="nofollow">Jonness @ 5</a> -</p><p>If I stand aside, will the government clean my teenage daughter&#8217;s room?</p><p>Will the hazmat team use that cool yellow caution tape?   ;-)<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('69601','Scotsman','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-69598\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 5&lt;\/a&gt; -\r\n\r\nIf I stand aside, will the government clean my teenage daughter\'s room?\r\n\r\nWill the hazmat team use that cool yellow caution tape?   ;-)',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jonness</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/30/news-roundup-local-banks-on-the-brink/#comment-69598</link> <dc:creator>Jonness</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:59:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=4891#comment-69598</guid> <description>Ray:The Venture CEO is living in a delusion fueled by denial. This is probably the first time he has ever had to face not having his parents pick up after his mess. After leaving the safety of the parents&#039; home, many people look to government to take over the parental duties.  That&#039;s why he can&#039;t believe Uncle Sam won&#039;t pick up this mess for him. It&#039;s outside of his realm of imagination.It&#039;s like when you&#039;re first told there is no Santa Clause. It&#039;s hard to accept at first, but with time you get through it.That&#039;s just my opinion of course.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;69598&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;69598&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;Ray:\r\n\r\nThe Venture CEO is living in a delusion fueled by denial. This is probably the first time he has ever had to face not having his parents pick up after his mess. After leaving the safety of the parents\&#039; home, many people look to government to take over the parental duties.  That\&#039;s why he can\&#039;t believe Uncle Sam won\&#039;t pick up this mess for him. It\&#039;s outside of his realm of imagination.\r\n\r\nIt\&#039;s like when you\&#039;re first told there is no Santa Clause. It\&#039;s hard to accept at first, but with time you get through it.\r\n\r\nThat\&#039;s just my opinion of course.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray:</p><p>The Venture CEO is living in a delusion fueled by denial. This is probably the first time he has ever had to face not having his parents pick up after his mess. After leaving the safety of the parents&#8217; home, many people look to government to take over the parental duties.  That&#8217;s why he can&#8217;t believe Uncle Sam won&#8217;t pick up this mess for him. It&#8217;s outside of his realm of imagination.</p><p>It&#8217;s like when you&#8217;re first told there is no Santa Clause. It&#8217;s hard to accept at first, but with time you get through it.</p><p>That&#8217;s just my opinion of course.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('69598','Jonness','Ray:\r\n\r\nThe Venture CEO is living in a delusion fueled by denial. This is probably the first time he has ever had to face not having his parents pick up after his mess. After leaving the safety of the parents\' home, many people look to government to take over the parental duties.  That\'s why he can\'t believe Uncle Sam won\'t pick up this mess for him. It\'s outside of his realm of imagination.\r\n\r\nIt\'s like when you\'re first told there is no Santa Clause. It\'s hard to accept at first, but with time you get through it.\r\n\r\nThat\'s just my opinion of course.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hector</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/30/news-roundup-local-banks-on-the-brink/#comment-69597</link> <dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:56:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=4891#comment-69597</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-69581&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ray Pepper @ 2&lt;/a&gt; -Ray, it&#039;s because Seattle is special...Venture neglected to hedge their bets, and are now paying for it.  Instead of taking personal responsibility, it&#039;s much easier to blame the gov.  I&#039;m sure if Bernie or Paulie were somehow present, Venture wouldn&#039;t have said a word.That being said, I&#039;m all for local banks (and business in general), and it hurts to see them doing so poorly.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;69597&#039;,&#039;Hector&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;69597&#039;,&#039;Hector&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-69581\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Ray Pepper @ 2&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nRay, it\&#039;s because Seattle is special...Venture neglected to hedge their bets, and are now paying for it.  Instead of taking personal responsibility, it\&#039;s much easier to blame the gov.  I\&#039;m sure if Bernie or Paulie were somehow present, Venture wouldn\&#039;t have said a word.\r\n\r\nThat being said, I\&#039;m all for local banks (and business in general), and it hurts to see them doing so poorly.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a
href='#comment-69581' rel="nofollow">Ray Pepper @ 2</a> &#8211;</p><p>Ray, it&#8217;s because Seattle is special&#8230;Venture neglected to hedge their bets, and are now paying for it.  Instead of taking personal responsibility, it&#8217;s much easier to blame the gov.  I&#8217;m sure if Bernie or Paulie were somehow present, Venture wouldn&#8217;t have said a word.</p><p>That being said, I&#8217;m all for local banks (and business in general), and it hurts to see them doing so poorly.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('69597','Hector','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-69581\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Ray Pepper @ 2&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nRay, it\'s because Seattle is special...Venture neglected to hedge their bets, and are now paying for it.  Instead of taking personal responsibility, it\'s much easier to blame the gov.  I\'m sure if Bernie or Paulie were somehow present, Venture wouldn\'t have said a word.\r\n\r\nThat being said, I\'m all for local banks (and business in general), and it hurts to see them doing so poorly.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: softwarengineer</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/30/news-roundup-local-banks-on-the-brink/#comment-69582</link> <dc:creator>softwarengineer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=4891#comment-69582</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BANKS WILL GO &#8220;BELLY UP&#8221;</p><p>Dr Roubini predicts more, in part:</p><p>&#8220;&#8230;Roubini Says Stocks Will Drop as Banks Go ‘Belly Up’</p><p>U.S. stocks will fall and the government will nationalize more banks as the economy contracts through the end of 2009, said Nouriel Roubini, the New York University professor who predicted last year’s economic crisis.</p><p>“The stock market is a bit ahead of the real macroeconomic and financial news,” Roubini, a professor at NYU’s Stern School of Business and the chairman of consulting firm Roubini Global Economics, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in London today. “We’ll have some major banks going belly up that will need to be taken over.”&#8230;&#8221;</p><p>The rst of the URL:</p><p><a
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('69582','softwarengineer','BANKS WILL GO \&quot;BELLY UP\&quot;\r\n\r\nDr Roubini predicts more, in part:\r\n\r\n\&quot;...Roubini Says Stocks Will Drop as Banks Go &acirc;Belly Up&acirc; \r\n\r\nU.S. stocks will fall and the government will nationalize more banks as the economy contracts through the end of 2009, said Nouriel Roubini, the New York University professor who predicted last year&acirc;s economic crisis.\r\n\r\n&acirc;The stock market is a bit ahead of the real macroeconomic and financial news,&acirc; Roubini, a professor at NYU&acirc;s Stern School of Business and the chairman of consulting firm Roubini Global Economics, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in London today. &acirc;We&acirc;ll have some major banks going belly up that will need to be taken over.&acirc;...\&quot;\r\n\r\nThe rst of the URL:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.rgemonitor.com\/roubini-monitor\/256190\/bloomberg_-_roubini_says_geithner_plan_wont_stop_nationalizations',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ray Pepper</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/30/news-roundup-local-banks-on-the-brink/#comment-69581</link> <dc:creator>Ray Pepper</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=4891#comment-69581</guid> <description>At the Town Hall meeting with Venture Bank and hearing the CEO and CFO talk its no wonder they are toast.  They remain BULLISH on a quick recovery and when I began to speak it seemed readily apparent they had no answers as to HOW this recovery would take place.  I was quickly shut down and hearing over and over how they blame Bernanke/Paulson for all their problems was ridiculous.Futhermore, after the event I questioned the CFO as to WHY they sustained such losses in FNM/FRE.  Did they not see what was happening in Nevada/Az?  Why not stop loss orders in their portfolios?As usual, NO answers just finger pointing.  Better find that buyer quick boys!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;69581&#039;,&#039;Ray Pepper&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;69581&#039;,&#039;Ray Pepper&#039;,&#039;At the Town Hall meeting with Venture Bank and hearing the CEO and CFO talk its no wonder they are toast.  They remain BULLISH on a quick recovery and when I began to speak it seemed readily apparent they had no answers as to HOW this recovery would take place.  I was quickly shut down and hearing over and over how they blame Bernanke\/Paulson for all their problems was ridiculous.  \r\n\r\nFuthermore, after the event I questioned the CFO as to WHY they sustained such losses in FNM\/FRE.  Did they not see what was happening in Nevada\/Az?  Why not stop loss orders in their portfolios?\r\n\r\nAs usual, NO answers just finger pointing.  Better find that buyer quick boys!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the Town Hall meeting with Venture Bank and hearing the CEO and CFO talk its no wonder they are toast.  They remain BULLISH on a quick recovery and when I began to speak it seemed readily apparent they had no answers as to HOW this recovery would take place.  I was quickly shut down and hearing over and over how they blame Bernanke/Paulson for all their problems was ridiculous.</p><p>Futhermore, after the event I questioned the CFO as to WHY they sustained such losses in FNM/FRE.  Did they not see what was happening in Nevada/Az?  Why not stop loss orders in their portfolios?</p><p>As usual, NO answers just finger pointing.  Better find that buyer quick boys!<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=4891#comment-69579</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Many community banks found that (construction and development loans) was an area in which they could compete effectively against the big banks,” Frontier’s Fahey said.</p><p>This is where the big disconnect took place.   The bankers were unable to recognize that much of the inventory (developments they funded for builders accounts) being gobbled up was through the subprime and 100% loans they were so adamant about not participating in.  We&#8217;ve seen the quotes in the papers&#8230;.&#8217;we just didn&#8217;t participate in all that toxic loan and Wall Street stuff.&#8217;   Yes, but what was buying your developers housing?  Those very loans.</p><p>I had one conversation with a bank executive from one of the banks named in the Seattle Times piece.   I was very specific in my conversation about the bubble we were in and asked about their exposure to commercial/development/builder accounts.   This was late Fall 2006.   Today the stock is down 90% +.    Who coulda known?   The escrow guy or the suits?<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('69579','S-Crow','&acirc;Many community banks found that (construction and development loans) was an area in which they could compete effectively against the big banks,&acirc; Frontier&acirc;s Fahey said.\r\n\r\nThis is where the big disconnect took place.   The bankers were unable to recognize that much of the inventory (developments they funded for builders accounts) being gobbled up was through the subprime and 100% loans they were so adamant about not participating in.  We\'ve seen the quotes in the papers....\'we just didn\'t participate in all that toxic loan and Wall Street stuff.\'   Yes, but what was buying your developers housing?  Those very loans.\r\n\r\nI had one conversation with a bank executive from one of the banks named in the Seattle Times piece.   I was very specific in my conversation about the bubble we were in and asked about their exposure to commercial\/development\/builder accounts.   This was late Fall 2006.   Today the stock is down 90% +.    Who coulda known?   The escrow guy or the suits?',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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