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> <channel><title>Comments on: Study: So What if Boeing Does Leave the Puget Sound?</title> <atom:link href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/</link> <description>local real estate news, statistics, and commentary without the sales spin.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:50:20 -0700</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: SteveH</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70922</link> <dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:23:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70922</guid> <description>Let&#039;s get a few things clear here.  A company does not pay the sales tax, the customer pays it.  The business collects it from the customer and forwards it to the state.  This is revenue neutral for the business.  If a company has a presence in Washington they have to charge the sales tax and forward the revenue to Washington for a purchase made in Washington.  Amazon does not get out of collecting and paying the Washington sales tax for Washington customers by shipping from some out of state address.  They have a corporate presence here and have to collect the tax.  Also, there is a huge movement going on with states agreeing amongst themselves that they will collect other states sales tax on internet purchases.  The are several groups of states that already do this.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70922&#039;,&#039;SteveH&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70922&#039;,&#039;SteveH&#039;,&#039;Let\&#039;s get a few things clear here.  A company does not pay the sales tax, the customer pays it.  The business collects it from the customer and forwards it to the state.  This is revenue neutral for the business.  If a company has a presence in Washington they have to charge the sales tax and forward the revenue to Washington for a purchase made in Washington.  Amazon does not get out of collecting and paying the Washington sales tax for Washington customers by shipping from some out of state address.  They have a corporate presence here and have to collect the tax.  Also, there is a huge movement going on with states agreeing amongst themselves that they will collect other states sales tax on internet purchases.  The are several groups of states that already do this.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get a few things clear here.  A company does not pay the sales tax, the customer pays it.  The business collects it from the customer and forwards it to the state.  This is revenue neutral for the business.  If a company has a presence in Washington they have to charge the sales tax and forward the revenue to Washington for a purchase made in Washington.  Amazon does not get out of collecting and paying the Washington sales tax for Washington customers by shipping from some out of state address.  They have a corporate presence here and have to collect the tax.  Also, there is a huge movement going on with states agreeing amongst themselves that they will collect other states sales tax on internet purchases.  The are several groups of states that already do this.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70922','SteveH','Let\'s get a few things clear here.  A company does not pay the sales tax, the customer pays it.  The business collects it from the customer and forwards it to the state.  This is revenue neutral for the business.  If a company has a presence in Washington they have to charge the sales tax and forward the revenue to Washington for a purchase made in Washington.  Amazon does not get out of collecting and paying the Washington sales tax for Washington customers by shipping from some out of state address.  They have a corporate presence here and have to collect the tax.  Also, there is a huge movement going on with states agreeing amongst themselves that they will collect other states sales tax on internet purchases.  The are several groups of states that already do this.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lamont</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70885</link> <dc:creator>lamont</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:51:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70885</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s not like Amazon can avoid the sale tax by shipping stuff from NJ.&#8221;</p><p>Yes they can.  I believe Amazon is incorporated in VA or some other state on the East Coast, and none of their distribution centers are in WA state and they don&#8217;t pay sales tax on the goods going through their distribution centers.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70885','lamont','\&quot;It&acirc;€™s not like Amazon can avoid the sale tax by shipping stuff from NJ.\&quot;\r\n\r\nYes they can.  I believe Amazon is incorporated in VA or some other state on the East Coast, and none of their distribution centers are in WA state and they don\'t pay sales tax on the goods going through their distribution centers.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70790</link> <dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:11:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70790</guid> <description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-70789&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DaveP @ 17&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;AFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s because they had a good argument that there&#039;d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales... major tax advantages..&lt;/blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t think that would get them out of it. Owning a few of the largest structures in the world, which are located in Washington, would create enough of a nexus.  It&#039;s not like Amazon can avoid the sale tax by shipping stuff from NJ.Also note that the sale tax would only apply to items shipped to Washington in any event.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70790&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70790&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-70789\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;DaveP @ 17&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;AFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center\/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I\&#039;m sure it\&#039;s because they had a good argument that there\&#039;d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales... major tax advantages..&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nI don\&#039;t think that would get them out of it. Owning a few of the largest structures in the world, which are located in Washington, would create enough of a nexus.  It\&#039;s not like Amazon can avoid the sale tax by shipping stuff from NJ.\n\nAlso note that the sale tax would only apply to items shipped to Washington in any event.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a
href='#comment-70789' rel="nofollow">DaveP @ 17</a>:<br
/><blockquote>AFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s because they had a good argument that there&#8217;d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales&#8230; major tax advantages..</p></blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think that would get them out of it. Owning a few of the largest structures in the world, which are located in Washington, would create enough of a nexus.  It&#8217;s not like Amazon can avoid the sale tax by shipping stuff from NJ.</p><p>Also note that the sale tax would only apply to items shipped to Washington in any event.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70790','Kary L. Krismer','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-70789\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;DaveP @ 17&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;AFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center\/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I\'m sure it\'s because they had a good argument that there\'d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales... major tax advantages..&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nI don\'t think that would get them out of it. Owning a few of the largest structures in the world, which are located in Washington, would create enough of a nexus.  It\'s not like Amazon can avoid the sale tax by shipping stuff from NJ.\n\nAlso note that the sale tax would only apply to items shipped to Washington in any event.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DaveP</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70789</link> <dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:06:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70789</guid> <description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-70756&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what goes up must come down @ 16&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;question if all these businesses can&#039;t make it in WA because of the tax structure why don&#039;t they just pack up and leave?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They have.Boeing HAS left, most people just don&#039;t think about it.  They moved their headquarters to a different state just a years ago.  Moving the corporate headquarters had nothing to do with the puget sound traffic fiasco, and everything to do with intrusive and expensive government.
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2001/q2/news_release_010510a.htmlAFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s because they had a good argument that there&#039;d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales... major tax advantages.Bear in mind that these large companies get millions in special tax breaks that &quot;regular&quot; companies don&#039;t get.   Thus I moved my company out of WA.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70789&#039;,&#039;DaveP&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70789&#039;,&#039;DaveP&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-70756\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;what goes up must come down @ 16&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;question if all these businesses can\&#039;t make it in WA because of the tax structure why don\&#039;t they just pack up and leave?&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\nThey have.  \r\n\r\nBoeing HAS left, most people just don\&#039;t think about it.  They moved their headquarters to a different state just a years ago.  Moving the corporate headquarters had nothing to do with the puget sound traffic fiasco, and everything to do with intrusive and expensive government.  \r\nhttp:\/\/www.boeing.com\/news\/releases\/2001\/q2\/news_release_010510a.html\r\n\r\nAFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center\/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I\&#039;m sure it\&#039;s because they had a good argument that there\&#039;d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales... major tax advantages.\r\n\r\nBear in mind that these large companies get millions in special tax breaks that \&quot;regular\&quot; companies don\&#039;t get.   Thus I moved my company out of WA.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a
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/><blockquote>question if all these businesses can&#8217;t make it in WA because of the tax structure why don&#8217;t they just pack up and leave?</p></blockquote><p>They have.</p><p>Boeing HAS left, most people just don&#8217;t think about it.  They moved their headquarters to a different state just a years ago.  Moving the corporate headquarters had nothing to do with the puget sound traffic fiasco, and everything to do with intrusive and expensive government.<br
/> <a
href="http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2001/q2/news_release_010510a.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2001/q2/news_release_010510a.html</a></p><p>AFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s because they had a good argument that there&#8217;d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales&#8230; major tax advantages.</p><p>Bear in mind that these large companies get millions in special tax breaks that &#8220;regular&#8221; companies don&#8217;t get.   Thus I moved my company out of WA.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70789','DaveP','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-70756\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;what goes up must come down @ 16&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;question if all these businesses can\'t make it in WA because of the tax structure why don\'t they just pack up and leave?&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\nThey have.  \r\n\r\nBoeing HAS left, most people just don\'t think about it.  They moved their headquarters to a different state just a years ago.  Moving the corporate headquarters had nothing to do with the puget sound traffic fiasco, and everything to do with intrusive and expensive government.  \r\nhttp:\/\/www.boeing.com\/news\/releases\/2001\/q2\/news_release_010510a.html\r\n\r\nAFAIK Microsoft moved their fullfillment center\/division to a different state a long time ago (Navada iirc).  I\'m sure it\'s because they had a good argument that there\'d be no nexus in WA, so no need to pay sales tax here for sales... major tax advantages.\r\n\r\nBear in mind that these large companies get millions in special tax breaks that \&quot;regular\&quot; companies don\'t get.   Thus I moved my company out of WA.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: what goes up must come down</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70756</link> <dc:creator>what goes up must come down</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70756</guid> <description>question if all these businesses can&#039;t make it in WA because of the tax structure why don&#039;t they just pack up and leave?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70756&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70756&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;question if all these businesses can\&#039;t make it in WA because of the tax structure why don\&#039;t they just pack up and leave?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question if all these businesses can&#8217;t make it in WA because of the tax structure why don&#8217;t they just pack up and leave?<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70754</guid> <description>dls those senior IAM people you talk about bought a long, long, long time ago&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70754&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70754&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;dls those senior IAM people you talk about bought a long, long, long time ago&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dls those senior IAM people you talk about bought a long, long, long time ago<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70753</guid> <description>Boeing will leave WA when I see my arse without a mirror.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70753&#039;,&#039;commentator&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70753&#039;,&#039;commentator&#039;,&#039;Boeing will leave WA when I see my arse without a mirror.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boeing will leave WA when I see my arse without a mirror.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70707</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-70688&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;b @ 4&lt;/a&gt; - There are plenty of senior IAM folks who make at/near/above $100K, and plenty of short service engineers who make much less than that, so stating that only top management and engineers can afford to buy in the local area is incorrect.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70707&#039;,&#039;dls&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70707&#039;,&#039;dls&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-70688\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;b @ 4&lt;\/a&gt; - There are plenty of senior IAM folks who make at\/near\/above $100K, and plenty of short service engineers who make much less than that, so stating that only top management and engineers can afford to buy in the local area is incorrect.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a
href='#comment-70688' rel="nofollow">b @ 4</a> &#8211; There are plenty of senior IAM folks who make at/near/above $100K, and plenty of short service engineers who make much less than that, so stating that only top management and engineers can afford to buy in the local area is incorrect.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70706</guid> <description>&quot;the majority of Boeing employees can no longer afford homes here anymore, only the top management and engineers can shoehorn themselves into a $400k crackerbox dump.&quot;Several Boeing employees live on my street, a modest neighborhood with a mix of old and new developments about fifteen minutes north of Paine Field, and $400k will get you a 3000 sf house on a quarter to half acre of recent construction (~ 10 yrs) or an acre or more with an older house.  There is plenty of affordable housing on the fringes, and by affordable I mean the mortgage payment is doable on a working class income and the house can be rented for the mortgage payment if desired (or in my case necessary because of a job change), and with a regional mandate to expand transit outward it&#039;s only going to make more sense in the future to pass on inner city life.This is a slightly off topic rant but lack of affordable housing has nothing to do with Boeing potentially leaving Washington.  They have been battling the state&#039;s economic development people for many years, with good reason IMO.  WA is as unfriendly toward business as any state IMO.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70706&#039;,&#039;Bits_of_Real_Panther&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70706&#039;,&#039;Bits_of_Real_Panther&#039;,&#039;\&quot;the majority of Boeing employees can no longer afford homes here anymore, only the top management and engineers can shoehorn themselves into a $400k crackerbox dump.\&quot;\r\n\r\nSeveral Boeing employees live on my street, a modest neighborhood with a mix of old and new developments about fifteen minutes north of Paine Field, and $400k will get you a 3000 sf house on a quarter to half acre of recent construction (~ 10 yrs) or an acre or more with an older house.  There is plenty of affordable housing on the fringes, and by affordable I mean the mortgage payment is doable on a working class income and the house can be rented for the mortgage payment if desired (or in my case necessary because of a job change), and with a regional mandate to expand transit outward it\&#039;s only going to make more sense in the future to pass on inner city life.\r\n\r\nThis is a slightly off topic rant but lack of affordable housing has nothing to do with Boeing potentially leaving Washington.  They have been battling the state\&#039;s economic development people for many years, with good reason IMO.  WA is as unfriendly toward business as any state IMO.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the majority of Boeing employees can no longer afford homes here anymore, only the top management and engineers can shoehorn themselves into a $400k crackerbox dump.&#8221;</p><p>Several Boeing employees live on my street, a modest neighborhood with a mix of old and new developments about fifteen minutes north of Paine Field, and $400k will get you a 3000 sf house on a quarter to half acre of recent construction (~ 10 yrs) or an acre or more with an older house.  There is plenty of affordable housing on the fringes, and by affordable I mean the mortgage payment is doable on a working class income and the house can be rented for the mortgage payment if desired (or in my case necessary because of a job change), and with a regional mandate to expand transit outward it&#8217;s only going to make more sense in the future to pass on inner city life.</p><p>This is a slightly off topic rant but lack of affordable housing has nothing to do with Boeing potentially leaving Washington.  They have been battling the state&#8217;s economic development people for many years, with good reason IMO.  WA is as unfriendly toward business as any state IMO.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70706','Bits_of_Real_Panther','\&quot;the majority of Boeing employees can no longer afford homes here anymore, only the top management and engineers can shoehorn themselves into a $400k crackerbox dump.\&quot;\r\n\r\nSeveral Boeing employees live on my street, a modest neighborhood with a mix of old and new developments about fifteen minutes north of Paine Field, and $400k will get you a 3000 sf house on a quarter to half acre of recent construction (~ 10 yrs) or an acre or more with an older house.  There is plenty of affordable housing on the fringes, and by affordable I mean the mortgage payment is doable on a working class income and the house can be rented for the mortgage payment if desired (or in my case necessary because of a job change), and with a regional mandate to expand transit outward it\'s only going to make more sense in the future to pass on inner city life.\r\n\r\nThis is a slightly off topic rant but lack of affordable housing has nothing to do with Boeing potentially leaving Washington.  They have been battling the state\'s economic development people for many years, with good reason IMO.  WA is as unfriendly toward business as any state IMO.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70704</link> <dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:25:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70704</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-70693&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;old ballard @ 6&lt;/a&gt; - Re DHL, yes.  They took over Airborne Express to gain a larger US presence and then moved everyone out of the Seattle area to AZ, TX and FL.  Then they failed.They thought the wages were too high here, but it doesn&#039;t really do much good to pay others less if the others are incapable of doing the job.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70704&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70704&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-70693\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;old ballard @ 6&lt;\/a&gt; - Re DHL, yes.  They took over Airborne Express to gain a larger US presence and then moved everyone out of the Seattle area to AZ, TX and FL.  Then they failed.\r\n\r\nThey thought the wages were too high here, but it doesn\&#039;t really do much good to pay others less if the others are incapable of doing the job.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a
href='#comment-70693' rel="nofollow">old ballard @ 6</a> &#8211; Re DHL, yes.  They took over Airborne Express to gain a larger US presence and then moved everyone out of the Seattle area to AZ, TX and FL.  Then they failed.</p><p>They thought the wages were too high here, but it doesn&#8217;t really do much good to pay others less if the others are incapable of doing the job.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70704','Kary L. Krismer','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-70693\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;old ballard @ 6&lt;\/a&gt; - Re DHL, yes.  They took over Airborne Express to gain a larger US presence and then moved everyone out of the Seattle area to AZ, TX and FL.  Then they failed.\r\n\r\nThey thought the wages were too high here, but it doesn\'t really do much good to pay others less if the others are incapable of doing the job.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mikal</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70703</link> <dc:creator>Mikal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:45:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70703</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-70698&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DaveP @ 9&lt;/a&gt; - It is simple. Just like having no state income tax. Sales tax is now 9.5 percent. Other than vehicles which still have to be licensed here, it is cheaper to rent a truck and go to Oregon for big ticket items. That nearly ten percent add on is HUGE. The B and O tax here is nuts. Seattle in it&#039;s infinite wisdom has made a square foot tax for businesses that are located within city limits but do business in other parts of the state. We need police, fireman,and other things paid for with tax money, but the system here bites.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70703&#039;,&#039;Mikal&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70703&#039;,&#039;Mikal&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-70698\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;DaveP @ 9&lt;\/a&gt; - It is simple. Just like having no state income tax. Sales tax is now 9.5 percent. Other than vehicles which still have to be licensed here, it is cheaper to rent a truck and go to Oregon for big ticket items. That nearly ten percent add on is HUGE. The B and O tax here is nuts. Seattle in it\&#039;s infinite wisdom has made a square foot tax for businesses that are located within city limits but do business in other parts of the state. We need police, fireman,and other things paid for with tax money, but the system here bites.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a
href='#comment-70698' rel="nofollow">DaveP @ 9</a> &#8211; It is simple. Just like having no state income tax. Sales tax is now 9.5 percent. Other than vehicles which still have to be licensed here, it is cheaper to rent a truck and go to Oregon for big ticket items. That nearly ten percent add on is HUGE. The B and O tax here is nuts. Seattle in it&#8217;s infinite wisdom has made a square foot tax for businesses that are located within city limits but do business in other parts of the state. We need police, fireman,and other things paid for with tax money, but the system here bites.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70703','Mikal','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-70698\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;DaveP @ 9&lt;\/a&gt; - It is simple. Just like having no state income tax. Sales tax is now 9.5 percent. Other than vehicles which still have to be licensed here, it is cheaper to rent a truck and go to Oregon for big ticket items. That nearly ten percent add on is HUGE. The B and O tax here is nuts. Seattle in it\'s infinite wisdom has made a square foot tax for businesses that are located within city limits but do business in other parts of the state. We need police, fireman,and other things paid for with tax money, but the system here bites.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DaveP</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70698</link> <dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:26:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70698</guid> <description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-70684&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mukoh @ 3&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Boeing would hurt plenty.
Unless the union busting efforts legally can free up the free loaders earning way more then average it will happen sooner or later.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It&#039;d take more than union busting.  WA has an A@@ backwards business tax on gross sales rather than net profit.  It has way more red tape and regulations than many other states.  Basically, WA has a political culture that spews hate toward business.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70698&#039;,&#039;DaveP&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70698&#039;,&#039;DaveP&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-70684\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;mukoh @ 3&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Boeing would hurt plenty. \r\nUnless the union busting efforts legally can free up the free loaders earning way more then average it will happen sooner or later.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIt\&#039;d take more than union busting.  WA has an A@@ backwards business tax on gross sales rather than net profit.  It has way more red tape and regulations than many other states.  Basically, WA has a political culture that spews hate toward business.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a
href='#comment-70684' rel="nofollow">mukoh @ 3</a>:<br
/><blockquote>Boeing would hurt plenty.<br
/> Unless the union busting efforts legally can free up the free loaders earning way more then average it will happen sooner or later.</p></blockquote><p>It&#8217;d take more than union busting.  WA has an A@@ backwards business tax on gross sales rather than net profit.  It has way more red tape and regulations than many other states.  Basically, WA has a political culture that spews hate toward business.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70698','DaveP','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-70684\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;mukoh @ 3&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Boeing would hurt plenty. \r\nUnless the union busting efforts legally can free up the free loaders earning way more then average it will happen sooner or later.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIt\'d take more than union busting.  WA has an A@@ backwards business tax on gross sales rather than net profit.  It has way more red tape and regulations than many other states.  Basically, WA has a political culture that spews hate toward business.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: singliac</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70695</link> <dc:creator>singliac</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:34:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70695</guid> <description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-70693&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;old ballard @ 6&lt;/a&gt; -
I believe that was Kary&#039;s point.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70695&#039;,&#039;singliac&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70695&#039;,&#039;singliac&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-70693\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;old ballard @ 6&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\nI believe that was Kary\&#039;s point.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a
href='#comment-70693' rel="nofollow">old ballard @ 6</a> &#8211;<br
/> I believe that was Kary&#8217;s point.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70694</guid> <description>Certainly Boeing leaving would hurt, although the number of Boeing employees as a percentage of the total Seattle area population is far smaller than it was 30 years ago, and the economy is more diversified. Still, places not too far from Boeing manufacturing facilities would be heavily impacted, especially Everett, Mukilteo, and Kent.   Renton saw the handwriting on the wall a few years back and built retail and housing where some Boeing facilities used to be.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70694&#039;,&#039;Ira sacharoff&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70694&#039;,&#039;Ira sacharoff&#039;,&#039;Certainly Boeing leaving would hurt, although the number of Boeing employees as a percentage of the total Seattle area population is far smaller than it was 30 years ago, and the economy is more diversified. Still, places not too far from Boeing manufacturing facilities would be heavily impacted, especially Everett, Mukilteo, and Kent.   Renton saw the handwriting on the wall a few years back and built retail and housing where some Boeing facilities used to be.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly Boeing leaving would hurt, although the number of Boeing employees as a percentage of the total Seattle area population is far smaller than it was 30 years ago, and the economy is more diversified. Still, places not too far from Boeing manufacturing facilities would be heavily impacted, especially Everett, Mukilteo, and Kent.   Renton saw the handwriting on the wall a few years back and built retail and housing where some Boeing facilities used to be.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70694','Ira sacharoff','Certainly Boeing leaving would hurt, although the number of Boeing employees as a percentage of the total Seattle area population is far smaller than it was 30 years ago, and the economy is more diversified. Still, places not too far from Boeing manufacturing facilities would be heavily impacted, especially Everett, Mukilteo, and Kent.   Renton saw the handwriting on the wall a few years back and built retail and housing where some Boeing facilities used to be.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: old ballard</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70693</link> <dc:creator>old ballard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70693</guid> <description></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boeing must want a new airfield or another tax break.</p><p>This so-called â€śreportâ€ť is typical of the kind of hack job (black mail) you see right before Boeing demands some kind of concession from the state or the unions.</p><p>I wouldnâ€™t bury a dead cat in the PSBJ, just more corporate media.</p><p><b>RE:</b> <a
href='#comment-70682' rel="nofollow">Kary L. Krismer @ 1</a> -</p><p>Didnâ€™t DHL shut down itâ€™s entire U.S. operations.<div
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href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('70693','old ballard','Boeing must want a new airfield or another tax break.\r\n\r\nThis so-called &acirc;€śreport&acirc;€ť is typical of the kind of hack job (black mail) you see right before Boeing demands some kind of concession from the state or the unions.\r\n\r\nI wouldn&acirc;€™t bury a dead cat in the PSBJ, just more corporate media.\r\n\r\n&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-70682\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Kary L. Krismer @ 1&lt;\/a&gt; -\r\n\r\nDidn&acirc;€™t DHL shut down it&acirc;€™s entire U.S. operations.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gary</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/14/study-so-what-if-boeing-does-leave-the-puget-sound/#comment-70691</link> <dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:33:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70691</guid> <description>I think it would hurt a lot more than that.
Almost 70,000 + jobs at boeing alone plus, all of the supply chain and any other business that benifits from those and the residual jobs?
As much as people like to complain about the wages they pay thier employees, they support way more than is even realized.
Think about the massive amount of commercial real estate they own here including huge amounts of waterfront.
Microsoft leaving would do far less damage.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70691&#039;,&#039;Gary&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70691&#039;,&#039;Gary&#039;,&#039;I think it would hurt a lot more than that.\r\nAlmost 70,000 + jobs at boeing alone plus, all of the supply chain and any other business that benifits from those and the residual jobs?\r\nAs much as people like to complain about the wages they pay thier employees, they support way more than is even realized.\r\nThink about the massive amount of commercial real estate they own here including huge amounts of waterfront.\r\nMicrosoft leaving would do far less damage.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would hurt a lot more than that.<br
/> Almost 70,000 + jobs at boeing alone plus, all of the supply chain and any other business that benifits from those and the residual jobs?<br
/> As much as people like to complain about the wages they pay thier employees, they support way more than is even realized.<br
/> Think about the massive amount of commercial real estate they own here including huge amounts of waterfront.<br
/> Microsoft leaving would do far less damage.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70688</guid> <description>The drop is low because the majority of Boeing employees can no longer afford homes here anymore, only the top management and engineers can shoehorn themselves into a $400k crackerbox dump.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70688&#039;,&#039;b&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70688&#039;,&#039;b&#039;,&#039;The drop is low because the majority of Boeing employees can no longer afford homes here anymore, only the top management and engineers can shoehorn themselves into a $400k crackerbox dump.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The drop is low because the majority of Boeing employees can no longer afford homes here anymore, only the top management and engineers can shoehorn themselves into a $400k crackerbox dump.<div
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Unless the union busting efforts legally can free up the free loaders earning way more then average it will happen sooner or later.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70684&#039;,&#039;mukoh&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70684&#039;,&#039;mukoh&#039;,&#039;Boeing would hurt plenty. \r\nUnless the union busting efforts legally can free up the free loaders earning way more then average it will happen sooner or later.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boeing would hurt plenty.<br
/> Unless the union busting efforts legally can free up the free loaders earning way more then average it will happen sooner or later.<div
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isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5123#comment-70683</guid> <description>Yeah, I&#039;m a bit baffled by that 6.5% drop too.  It seems like Boeing leaving WA would hurt a lot more than that.  I guess we are talking about 2030 though, so that is a lot of time without any appreciation.  It just seems strange to attempt to predict so far in the future when we don&#039;t even know what next month will bring.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;70683&#039;,&#039;singliac&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;70683&#039;,&#039;singliac&#039;,&#039;Yeah, I\&#039;m a bit baffled by that 6.5% drop too.  It seems like Boeing leaving WA would hurt a lot more than that.  I guess we are talking about 2030 though, so that is a lot of time without any appreciation.  It just seems strange to attempt to predict so far in the future when we don\&#039;t even know what next month will bring.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m a bit baffled by that 6.5% drop too.  It seems like Boeing leaving WA would hurt a lot more than that.  I guess we are talking about 2030 though, so that is a lot of time without any appreciation.  It just seems strange to attempt to predict so far in the future when we don&#8217;t even know what next month will bring.<div
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