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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77856</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77846&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;/a&gt; - I think I&#039;d turn this around on you.  What was it about Vaughn that was soooo bad that Boeing had to buy the entire company?  They better hope it was only the management, or they just wasted the purchase price, and still have a plane model in serious trouble.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77856&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77856&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77846\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;\/a&gt; - I think I\&#039;d turn this around on you.  What was it about Vaughn that was soooo bad that Boeing had to buy the entire company?  They better hope it was only the management, or they just wasted the purchase price, and still have a plane model in serious trouble.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77846' rel="nofollow">Faster @ 34</a> &#8211; I think I&#8217;d turn this around on you.  What was it about Vaughn that was soooo bad that Boeing had to buy the entire company?  They better hope it was only the management, or they just wasted the purchase price, and still have a plane model in serious trouble.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77856','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77856','Kary L. Krismer','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77846\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;\/a&gt; - I think I\'d turn this around on you.  What was it about Vaughn that was soooo bad that Boeing had to buy the entire company?  They better hope it was only the management, or they just wasted the purchase price, and still have a plane model in serious trouble.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77855</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77846&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow...so BMWs sedans, which they&#039;ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Since when did a car have to have been made forever to be reliable?  Not that the BMW sedans had good ratings.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77855&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77855&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77846\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow...so BMWs sedans, which they\&#039;ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nSince when did a car have to have been made forever to be reliable?  Not that the BMW sedans had good ratings.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a href='#comment-77846' rel="nofollow">Faster @ 34</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Wow&#8230;so BMWs sedans, which they&#8217;ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?</p></blockquote>
<p>Since when did a car have to have been made forever to be reliable?  Not that the BMW sedans had good ratings.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77855','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77855','Kary L. Krismer','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-77846\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow...so BMWs sedans, which they\'ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nSince when did a car have to have been made forever to be reliable?  Not that the BMW sedans had good ratings.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77854</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77846&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;/a&gt; - I don&#039;t know what makes it less likely.  I know my wife did training down in AZ for a short time, and the quality there was much worse, but that could have been due to the quantity they had to hire at the time.

I&#039;m not the one who makes the reports of certain employers being unhappy, I just read them.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77854&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77854&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77846\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Faster @ 34&lt;\/a&gt; - I don\&#039;t know what makes it less likely.  I know my wife did training down in AZ for a short time, and the quality there was much worse, but that could have been due to the quantity they had to hire at the time.\r\n\r\nI\&#039;m not the one who makes the reports of certain employers being unhappy, I just read them.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77846' rel="nofollow">Faster @ 34</a> &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what makes it less likely.  I know my wife did training down in AZ for a short time, and the quality there was much worse, but that could have been due to the quantity they had to hire at the time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the one who makes the reports of certain employers being unhappy, I just read them.
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		<title>By: Faster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...so BMWs sedans, which they&#039;ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?

Just out of curiousity, what is it about SC that makes it less likely to have high quality workers? You aren&#039;t one of those PNWers who thinks everybody in the South is a redneck are you?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77846&#039;,&#039;Faster&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77846&#039;,&#039;Faster&#039;,&#039;Wow...so BMWs sedans, which they\&#039;ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?\r\n\r\nJust out of curiousity, what is it about SC that makes it less likely to have high quality workers? You aren\&#039;t one of those PNWers who thinks everybody in the South is a redneck are you?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;so BMWs sedans, which they&#8217;ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?</p>
<p>Just out of curiousity, what is it about SC that makes it less likely to have high quality workers? You aren&#8217;t one of those PNWers who thinks everybody in the South is a redneck are you?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77846','Faster',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77846','Faster','Wow...so BMWs sedans, which they\'ve been making just short of forever are more reliable than their SUVs?\r\n\r\nJust out of curiousity, what is it about SC that makes it less likely to have high quality workers? You aren\'t one of those PNWers who thinks everybody in the South is a redneck are you?',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Jonness</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Right-to-work laws are statutes enforced in twenty-two U.S. states, mostly in the southern or western U.S., allowed under provisions of the Taft-Hartley Act, which prohibit agreements between trade unions and employers making membership or payment of union dues or &quot;fees&quot; a condition of employment, either before or after hiring.&quot;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77837&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77837&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;\&quot;Right-to-work laws are statutes enforced in twenty-two U.S. states, mostly in the southern or western U.S., allowed under provisions of the Taft-Hartley Act, which prohibit agreements between trade unions and employers making membership or payment of union dues or \&quot;fees\&quot; a condition of employment, either before or after hiring.\&quot;&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Right-to-work laws are statutes enforced in twenty-two U.S. states, mostly in the southern or western U.S., allowed under provisions of the Taft-Hartley Act, which prohibit agreements between trade unions and employers making membership or payment of union dues or &#8220;fees&#8221; a condition of employment, either before or after hiring.&#8221;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77837','Jonness',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77837','Jonness','\&quot;Right-to-work laws are statutes enforced in twenty-two U.S. states, mostly in the southern or western U.S., allowed under provisions of the Taft-Hartley Act, which prohibit agreements between trade unions and employers making membership or payment of union dues or \&quot;fees\&quot; a condition of employment, either before or after hiring.\&quot;',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77820</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77814&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;faster @ 31&lt;/a&gt; - Okay, I looked up CR&#039;s reliability records for BMW, for the cars made in SC per your link.  The X5 is dismal, the Z4 pretty good, and there&#039;s no report on the X6.  So a mixed bag. So maybe only half the 787s made in SC will fall out of the sky.  ;-)

BTW, Mercedes reliability has apparently improved since I looked at CR last.  It&#039;s still not good, but it&#039;s no longer Land Rover bad.  But they also seem to be reporting less data--most the Land Rover report is blank now.  VW is still horrible, much worse than Mercedes now.  I don&#039;t even need to look up what they build in SC, because it&#039;s bad no matter where it&#039;s made.  Maybe it is the German engineering.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77820&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77820&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77814\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;faster @ 31&lt;\/a&gt; - Okay, I looked up CR\&#039;s reliability records for BMW, for the cars made in SC per your link.  The X5 is dismal, the Z4 pretty good, and there\&#039;s no report on the X6.  So a mixed bag. So maybe only half the 787s made in SC will fall out of the sky.  ;-)\r\n\r\nBTW, Mercedes reliability has apparently improved since I looked at CR last.  It\&#039;s still not good, but it\&#039;s no longer Land Rover bad.  But they also seem to be reporting less data--most the Land Rover report is blank now.  VW is still horrible, much worse than Mercedes now.  I don\&#039;t even need to look up what they build in SC, because it\&#039;s bad no matter where it\&#039;s made.  Maybe it is the German engineering.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77814' rel="nofollow">faster @ 31</a> &#8211; Okay, I looked up CR&#8217;s reliability records for BMW, for the cars made in SC per your link.  The X5 is dismal, the Z4 pretty good, and there&#8217;s no report on the X6.  So a mixed bag. So maybe only half the 787s made in SC will fall out of the sky.  ;-)</p>
<p>BTW, Mercedes reliability has apparently improved since I looked at CR last.  It&#8217;s still not good, but it&#8217;s no longer Land Rover bad.  But they also seem to be reporting less data&#8211;most the Land Rover report is blank now.  VW is still horrible, much worse than Mercedes now.  I don&#8217;t even need to look up what they build in SC, because it&#8217;s bad no matter where it&#8217;s made.  Maybe it is the German engineering.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77820','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77820','Kary L. Krismer','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77814\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;faster @ 31&lt;\/a&gt; - Okay, I looked up CR\'s reliability records for BMW, for the cars made in SC per your link.  The X5 is dismal, the Z4 pretty good, and there\'s no report on the X6.  So a mixed bag. So maybe only half the 787s made in SC will fall out of the sky.  ;-)\r\n\r\nBTW, Mercedes reliability has apparently improved since I looked at CR last.  It\'s still not good, but it\'s no longer Land Rover bad.  But they also seem to be reporting less data--most the Land Rover report is blank now.  VW is still horrible, much worse than Mercedes now.  I don\'t even need to look up what they build in SC, because it\'s bad no matter where it\'s made.  Maybe it is the German engineering.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: faster</title>
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		<dc:creator>faster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77732&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kary L. Krismer @ 19&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;In the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Tell that to BMW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Manufacturing_Co._Spartanburg&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77814&#039;,&#039;faster&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77814&#039;,&#039;faster&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77732\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Kary L. Krismer @ 19&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;In the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\nTell that to BMW.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/BMW_Manufacturing_Co._Spartanburg&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a href='#comment-77732' rel="nofollow">Kary L. Krismer @ 19</a>:<br />
<blockquote>In the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tell that to BMW.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Manufacturing_Co._Spartanburg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Manufacturing_Co._Spartanburg</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77814','faster',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77814','faster','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-77732\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Kary L. Krismer @ 19&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;In the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\nTell that to BMW.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/BMW_Manufacturing_Co._Spartanburg',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: cheapseats</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77780&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 29&lt;/a&gt; - I think SC is more tech savy than has been suggested. I am no expert, but I went to several Cisco training courses at Cisco offices in SC. I think that they produced telecom gear there. 

Also, it is sort of a ridiculous argument that the talent must be locally grown. If there is actually a chance of Boeing moving anything there, I am sure the Real Estate agents there are talking up the potential for high paying positions that will be moving in from Wa...

This was not directed at you Jonness, I was just too lazy to scroll up.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77782&#039;,&#039;cheapseats&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77782&#039;,&#039;cheapseats&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77780\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 29&lt;\/a&gt; - I think SC is more tech savy than has been suggested. I am no expert, but I went to several Cisco training courses at Cisco offices in SC. I think that they produced telecom gear there. \r\n\r\nAlso, it is sort of a ridiculous argument that the talent must be locally grown. If there is actually a chance of Boeing moving anything there, I am sure the Real Estate agents there are talking up the potential for high paying positions that will be moving in from Wa...\r\n\r\nThis was not directed at you Jonness, I was just too lazy to scroll up.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77780' rel="nofollow">Jonness @ 29</a> &#8211; I think SC is more tech savy than has been suggested. I am no expert, but I went to several Cisco training courses at Cisco offices in SC. I think that they produced telecom gear there. </p>
<p>Also, it is sort of a ridiculous argument that the talent must be locally grown. If there is actually a chance of Boeing moving anything there, I am sure the Real Estate agents there are talking up the potential for high paying positions that will be moving in from Wa&#8230;</p>
<p>This was not directed at you Jonness, I was just too lazy to scroll up.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77782','cheapseats',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77782','cheapseats','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77780\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 29&lt;\/a&gt; - I think SC is more tech savy than has been suggested. I am no expert, but I went to several Cisco training courses at Cisco offices in SC. I think that they produced telecom gear there. \r\n\r\nAlso, it is sort of a ridiculous argument that the talent must be locally grown. If there is actually a chance of Boeing moving anything there, I am sure the Real Estate agents there are talking up the potential for high paying positions that will be moving in from Wa...\r\n\r\nThis was not directed at you Jonness, I was just too lazy to scroll up.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Jonness</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77780</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.&quot;

OTOH, it doesn&#039;t require a degree in rocket science to do assembly line work. S.C. might be the perfect place to find people willing to handle a screwdriver for less than 6 figures/yr.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77780&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77780&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;\&quot;S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.\&quot;\r\n\r\nOTOH, it doesn\&#039;t require a degree in rocket science to do assembly line work. S.C. might be the perfect place to find people willing to handle a screwdriver for less than 6 figures\/yr.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.&#8221;</p>
<p>OTOH, it doesn&#8217;t require a degree in rocket science to do assembly line work. S.C. might be the perfect place to find people willing to handle a screwdriver for less than 6 figures/yr.
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		<title>By: Vailripper</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77776</link>
		<dc:creator>Vailripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77740&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tim @ 21&lt;/a&gt; - 

I too am looking to buy in Bellingham. There does appear to be a lot of ambiguity in this area, it&#039;s very difficult to find good market analytics up here. I am especially interested in how the Vancouver Olympics might affect the market here, I wonder if we are close enough to the action to enjoy any of the post Olympics surge that most cities have seen. 

Average household income of only 40k really makes me wonder how anyone affords a house up here.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77776&#039;,&#039;Vailripper&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77776&#039;,&#039;Vailripper&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77740\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Tim @ 21&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nI too am looking to buy in Bellingham. There does appear to be a lot of ambiguity in this area, it\&#039;s very difficult to find good market analytics up here. I am especially interested in how the Vancouver Olympics might affect the market here, I wonder if we are close enough to the action to enjoy any of the post Olympics surge that most cities have seen. \r\n\r\nAverage household income of only 40k really makes me wonder how anyone affords a house up here.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77740' rel="nofollow">Tim @ 21</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>I too am looking to buy in Bellingham. There does appear to be a lot of ambiguity in this area, it&#8217;s very difficult to find good market analytics up here. I am especially interested in how the Vancouver Olympics might affect the market here, I wonder if we are close enough to the action to enjoy any of the post Olympics surge that most cities have seen. </p>
<p>Average household income of only 40k really makes me wonder how anyone affords a house up here.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77776','Vailripper',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77776','Vailripper','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77740\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Tim @ 21&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nI too am looking to buy in Bellingham. There does appear to be a lot of ambiguity in this area, it\'s very difficult to find good market analytics up here. I am especially interested in how the Vancouver Olympics might affect the market here, I wonder if we are close enough to the action to enjoy any of the post Olympics surge that most cities have seen. \r\n\r\nAverage household income of only 40k really makes me wonder how anyone affords a house up here.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77761</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77754&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Raj @ 25&lt;/a&gt; - 6 of the 7 under 300k were in the area bordered by Broadway on the west, 23rd on the east, between Madison and Yesler.  Just searching that area the median did drop, from about 425,000 to 391,000.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77761&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77761&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77754\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Raj @ 25&lt;\/a&gt; - 6 of the 7 under 300k were in the area bordered by Broadway on the west, 23rd on the east, between Madison and Yesler.  Just searching that area the median did drop, from about 425,000 to 391,000.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77754' rel="nofollow">Raj @ 25</a> &#8211; 6 of the 7 under 300k were in the area bordered by Broadway on the west, 23rd on the east, between Madison and Yesler.  Just searching that area the median did drop, from about 425,000 to 391,000.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77761','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77761','Kary L. Krismer','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77754\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Raj @ 25&lt;\/a&gt; - 6 of the 7 under 300k were in the area bordered by Broadway on the west, 23rd on the east, between Madison and Yesler.  Just searching that area the median did drop, from about 425,000 to 391,000.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77759</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77754&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Raj @ 25&lt;/a&gt; - More Forbes BS.

I did a one mile radius from an address very close to the star in that map, and the six month period prior to today is actually slightly higher than the six month period a year ago.  And the number is almost $500,000.

There were 7 that went under $300,000 this year, and only one last year.  The minimum price both years was $240,000.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77759&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77759&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77754\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Raj @ 25&lt;\/a&gt; - More Forbes BS.\r\n\r\nI did a one mile radius from an address very close to the star in that map, and the six month period prior to today is actually slightly higher than the six month period a year ago.  And the number is almost $500,000.\r\n\r\nThere were 7 that went under $300,000 this year, and only one last year.  The minimum price both years was $240,000.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77754' rel="nofollow">Raj @ 25</a> &#8211; More Forbes BS.</p>
<p>I did a one mile radius from an address very close to the star in that map, and the six month period prior to today is actually slightly higher than the six month period a year ago.  And the number is almost $500,000.</p>
<p>There were 7 that went under $300,000 this year, and only one last year.  The minimum price both years was $240,000.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77759','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77759','Kary L. Krismer','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77754\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Raj @ 25&lt;\/a&gt; - More Forbes BS.\r\n\r\nI did a one mile radius from an address very close to the star in that map, and the six month period prior to today is actually slightly higher than the six month period a year ago.  And the number is almost $500,000.\r\n\r\nThere were 7 that went under $300,000 this year, and only one last year.  The minimum price both years was $240,000.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77754</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Depth: America&#039;s Fastest-Falling Neighborhoods:

City: Seattle
Neighborhood: Central Business District
Median Price: $285,000
Decline (year-over-year): -51%

src : http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/06/neighborhoods-home-prices-lifestyle-real-estate-neighborhood-home-prices_slide_16.html&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77754&#039;,&#039;Raj&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77754&#039;,&#039;Raj&#039;,&#039;In Depth: America\&#039;s Fastest-Falling Neighborhoods:\r\n\r\nCity: Seattle\r\nNeighborhood: Central Business District\r\nMedian Price: $285,000\r\nDecline (year-over-year): -51%\r\n\r\nsrc : http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/2009\/07\/06\/neighborhoods-home-prices-lifestyle-real-estate-neighborhood-home-prices_slide_16.html&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Depth: America&#8217;s Fastest-Falling Neighborhoods:</p>
<p>City: Seattle<br />
Neighborhood: Central Business District<br />
Median Price: $285,000<br />
Decline (year-over-year): -51%</p>
<p>src : <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/06/neighborhoods-home-prices-lifestyle-real-estate-neighborhood-home-prices_slide_16.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/06/neighborhoods-home-prices-lifestyle-real-estate-neighborhood-home-prices_slide_16.html</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77754','Raj',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77754','Raj','In Depth: America\'s Fastest-Falling Neighborhoods:\r\n\r\nCity: Seattle\r\nNeighborhood: Central Business District\r\nMedian Price: $285,000\r\nDecline (year-over-year): -51%\r\n\r\nsrc : http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/2009\/07\/06\/neighborhoods-home-prices-lifestyle-real-estate-neighborhood-home-prices_slide_16.html',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Racket</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77744</link>
		<dc:creator>Racket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not like they used to.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77744&#039;,&#039;Racket&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77744&#039;,&#039;Racket&#039;,&#039;Not like they used to.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not like they used to.
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77743</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are Canadians still buying in Whatcom County?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77743&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77743&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;Are Canadians still buying in Whatcom County?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are Canadians still buying in Whatcom County?
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77741</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that someone was so happy about the news reports that the housing market is recovering that they decided to raise their list price!  Hmm...

Date  Event  Price  Appreciation  Source  
Jul 07, 2009  Price Changed $1,010,000  --  NWMLS #29045521  
Apr 01, 2009  Listed $999,000  --  NWMLS #29045521&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77741&#039;,&#039;Jim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77741&#039;,&#039;Jim&#039;,&#039;I noticed that someone was so happy about the news reports that the housing market is recovering that they decided to raise their list price!  Hmm...\r\n\r\nDate  Event  Price  Appreciation  Source  \r\nJul 07, 2009  Price Changed $1,010,000  --  NWMLS #29045521  \r\nApr 01, 2009  Listed $999,000  --  NWMLS #29045521&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that someone was so happy about the news reports that the housing market is recovering that they decided to raise their list price!  Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Date  Event  Price  Appreciation  Source<br />
Jul 07, 2009  Price Changed $1,010,000  &#8212;  NWMLS #29045521<br />
Apr 01, 2009  Listed $999,000  &#8212;  NWMLS #29045521
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77741','Jim',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77741','Jim','I noticed that someone was so happy about the news reports that the housing market is recovering that they decided to raise their list price!  Hmm...\r\n\r\nDate  Event  Price  Appreciation  Source  \r\nJul 07, 2009  Price Changed $1,010,000  --  NWMLS #29045521  \r\nApr 01, 2009  Listed $999,000  --  NWMLS #29045521',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77740</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Bellingham and rent as well.   I&#039;ve noticed that some of the houses we&#039;ve been keeping tabs on have sold in the past month or so.   We are still waiting it out as we rent for about half what we would expect our mortgage to be.   I&#039;d be curious to know who is buying these homes though.    My wife and I make well over 100,000 which I don&#039;t think is typical for Whatcom  county and we are reluctant to spend more than 300,000 but we aren&#039;t going to spend that kind of money for a pos.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77740&#039;,&#039;Tim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77740&#039;,&#039;Tim&#039;,&#039;I live in Bellingham and rent as well.   I\&#039;ve noticed that some of the houses we\&#039;ve been keeping tabs on have sold in the past month or so.   We are still waiting it out as we rent for about half what we would expect our mortgage to be.   I\&#039;d be curious to know who is buying these homes though.    My wife and I make well over 100,000 which I don\&#039;t think is typical for Whatcom  county and we are reluctant to spend more than 300,000 but we aren\&#039;t going to spend that kind of money for a pos.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Bellingham and rent as well.   I&#8217;ve noticed that some of the houses we&#8217;ve been keeping tabs on have sold in the past month or so.   We are still waiting it out as we rent for about half what we would expect our mortgage to be.   I&#8217;d be curious to know who is buying these homes though.    My wife and I make well over 100,000 which I don&#8217;t think is typical for Whatcom  county and we are reluctant to spend more than 300,000 but we aren&#8217;t going to spend that kind of money for a pos.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77740','Tim',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77740','Tim','I live in Bellingham and rent as well.   I\'ve noticed that some of the houses we\'ve been keeping tabs on have sold in the past month or so.   We are still waiting it out as we rent for about half what we would expect our mortgage to be.   I\'d be curious to know who is buying these homes though.    My wife and I make well over 100,000 which I don\'t think is typical for Whatcom  county and we are reluctant to spend more than 300,000 but we aren\'t going to spend that kind of money for a pos.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77733</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77723&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Losh @ 14&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77709&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;/a&gt; - 

Sorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you&#039;re not paying cash you can&#039;t afford it&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I partially agree with this.  As I&#039;ve repeatedly pointed out with examples, people who buy higher priced homes put down well over 20%, and a lot pay cash.  Most common is just getting the maximum conventional loan.

No one wants a $5,000 a month mortgage payment.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77733&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77733&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77723\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;David Losh @ 14&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77709\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;\/a&gt; - \n\nSorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you\&#039;re not paying cash you can\&#039;t afford it&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nI partially agree with this.  As I\&#039;ve repeatedly pointed out with examples, people who buy higher priced homes put down well over 20%, and a lot pay cash.  Most common is just getting the maximum conventional loan.\n\nNo one wants a $5,000 a month mortgage payment.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a href='#comment-77723' rel="nofollow">David Losh @ 14</a>:<br />
<blockquote><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77709' rel="nofollow">george @ 11</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>Sorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you&#8217;re not paying cash you can&#8217;t afford it</p></blockquote>
<p>I partially agree with this.  As I&#8217;ve repeatedly pointed out with examples, people who buy higher priced homes put down well over 20%, and a lot pay cash.  Most common is just getting the maximum conventional loan.</p>
<p>No one wants a $5,000 a month mortgage payment.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77733','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77733','Kary L. Krismer','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-77723\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;David Losh @ 14&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77709\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;\/a&gt; - \n\nSorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you\'re not paying cash you can\'t afford it&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\n\nI partially agree with this.  As I\'ve repeatedly pointed out with examples, people who buy higher priced homes put down well over 20%, and a lot pay cash.  Most common is just getting the maximum conventional loan.\n\nNo one wants a $5,000 a month mortgage payment.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77732</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77720&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 13&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77732&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77732&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77720\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 13&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIn the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a href='#comment-77720' rel="nofollow">Jonness @ 13</a>:<br />
<blockquote>With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!</p></blockquote>
<p>In the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77732','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77732','Kary L. Krismer','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-77720\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 13&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIn the open thread I indicated this is more likely an indication that Voight plant will move up here.  S.C. is not really the place you go for high end workers, and Boeing will now discover that when they have to deal with the employees and potential workforce directly.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: truthtold</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77730</link>
		<dc:creator>truthtold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9-Meadows
Whatcom and Skagit bother  me...
the Realtors are generally awful, no redfin representation, overly close relations between small banks, developers and local gov. along with non-existent real estate news (unless local paper decides to interview yet another zombie realtor) makes for major ignorance in buying community.  Relying upon being in the (hidden?) corner of US and prices make no sense while realtors simply lie about prospects, potential rents, etc.  I think these markets are propped up with crap - as these two counties totally lack jobs and income; and the California retiree is gone.
They need bubble coverage! as the Bellingham buyer appears to be surprisingly uninformed.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77730&#039;,&#039;truthtold&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77730&#039;,&#039;truthtold&#039;,&#039;#9-Meadows\r\nWhatcom and Skagit bother  me...\r\nthe Realtors are generally awful, no redfin representation, overly close relations between small banks, developers and local gov. along with non-existent real estate news (unless local paper decides to interview yet another zombie realtor) makes for major ignorance in buying community.  Relying upon being in the (hidden?) corner of US and prices make no sense while realtors simply lie about prospects, potential rents, etc.  I think these markets are propped up with crap - as these two counties totally lack jobs and income; and the California retiree is gone.\r\nThey need bubble coverage! as the Bellingham buyer appears to be surprisingly uninformed.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9-Meadows<br />
Whatcom and Skagit bother  me&#8230;<br />
the Realtors are generally awful, no redfin representation, overly close relations between small banks, developers and local gov. along with non-existent real estate news (unless local paper decides to interview yet another zombie realtor) makes for major ignorance in buying community.  Relying upon being in the (hidden?) corner of US and prices make no sense while realtors simply lie about prospects, potential rents, etc.  I think these markets are propped up with crap &#8211; as these two counties totally lack jobs and income; and the California retiree is gone.<br />
They need bubble coverage! as the Bellingham buyer appears to be surprisingly uninformed.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77730','truthtold',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77730','truthtold','#9-Meadows\r\nWhatcom and Skagit bother  me...\r\nthe Realtors are generally awful, no redfin representation, overly close relations between small banks, developers and local gov. along with non-existent real estate news (unless local paper decides to interview yet another zombie realtor) makes for major ignorance in buying community.  Relying upon being in the (hidden?) corner of US and prices make no sense while realtors simply lie about prospects, potential rents, etc.  I think these markets are propped up with crap - as these two counties totally lack jobs and income; and the California retiree is gone.\r\nThey need bubble coverage! as the Bellingham buyer appears to be surprisingly uninformed.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: ella</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77729</link>
		<dc:creator>ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the housing market has returned, we can ditch the housing market stimulus.  Let the market stand on it own.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77729&#039;,&#039;ella&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77729&#039;,&#039;ella&#039;,&#039;Now that the housing market has returned, we can ditch the housing market stimulus.  Let the market stand on it own.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the housing market has returned, we can ditch the housing market stimulus.  Let the market stand on it own.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77729','ella',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77729','ella','Now that the housing market has returned, we can ditch the housing market stimulus.  Let the market stand on it own.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: what goes up must come down</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77726</link>
		<dc:creator>what goes up must come down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon you are clueless about Boeing but I guess that  would not stop you from commenting.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77726&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77726&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;Jon you are clueless about Boeing but I guess that  would not stop you from commenting.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon you are clueless about Boeing but I guess that  would not stop you from commenting.
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77724</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77720&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 13&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Seattle Time articles is amusing.

Gregoire says &quot;The idea of labor giving up the right to strike is a huge issue for them. There has to be something on the other side equally compelling.&quot;

It&#039;s called a job. The union is asking for guarantees? Bye, Boeing.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77724&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77724&#039;,&#039;jon&#039;,&#039;By &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77720\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 13&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nThe Seattle Time articles is amusing.\r\n\r\nGregoire says \&quot;The idea of labor giving up the right to strike is a huge issue for them. There has to be something on the other side equally compelling.\&quot;\r\n\r\nIt\&#039;s called a job. The union is asking for guarantees? Bye, Boeing.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By <a href='#comment-77720' rel="nofollow">Jonness @ 13</a>:<br />
<blockquote>With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!</p></blockquote>
<p>The Seattle Time articles is amusing.</p>
<p>Gregoire says &#8220;The idea of labor giving up the right to strike is a huge issue for them. There has to be something on the other side equally compelling.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called a job. The union is asking for guarantees? Bye, Boeing.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77724','jon',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77724','jon','By &lt;a href=\'#comment-77720\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Jonness @ 13&lt;\/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nThe Seattle Time articles is amusing.\r\n\r\nGregoire says \&quot;The idea of labor giving up the right to strike is a huge issue for them. There has to be something on the other side equally compelling.\&quot;\r\n\r\nIt\'s called a job. The union is asking for guarantees? Bye, Boeing.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: David Losh</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77723</link>
		<dc:creator>David Losh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77709&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;/a&gt; - 

Sorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you&#039;re not paying cash you can&#039;t afford it. Real Estate has always been something you pay off. That&#039;s how it works. 

When you leverage you do it to pay off behind you. If I buy ten houses and build equity the goal is to sell off five to own five free and clear. That&#039;s the game in a nut shell. A million is a move up, or inheritance.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77723&#039;,&#039;David Losh&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77723&#039;,&#039;David Losh&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77709\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nSorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you\&#039;re not paying cash you can\&#039;t afford it. Real Estate has always been something you pay off. That\&#039;s how it works. \r\n\r\nWhen you leverage you do it to pay off behind you. If I buy ten houses and build equity the goal is to sell off five to own five free and clear. That\&#039;s the game in a nut shell. A million is a move up, or inheritance.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77709' rel="nofollow">george @ 11</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>Sorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you&#8217;re not paying cash you can&#8217;t afford it. Real Estate has always been something you pay off. That&#8217;s how it works. </p>
<p>When you leverage you do it to pay off behind you. If I buy ten houses and build equity the goal is to sell off five to own five free and clear. That&#8217;s the game in a nut shell. A million is a move up, or inheritance.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77723','David Losh',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77723','David Losh','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77709\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nSorry George, but over a million is a cash market. If you\'re not paying cash you can\'t afford it. Real Estate has always been something you pay off. That\'s how it works. \r\n\r\nWhen you leverage you do it to pay off behind you. If I buy ten houses and build equity the goal is to sell off five to own five free and clear. That\'s the game in a nut shell. A million is a move up, or inheritance.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Jonness</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77720&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77720&#039;,&#039;Jonness&#039;,&#039;With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77720','Jonness',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77720','Jonness','With the Boeing 767 soon to move out with Vought, I have to wonder how long these Spring bubble prices will appear to be bargains?That strike right in the heart of the worst financial downturn since the Great Depression has turned out to be a real stroke of genius. Buy now or be priced out forever!',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Softwarengineer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77711</link>
		<dc:creator>Softwarengineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77709&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;/a&gt; - 

RIGHT ON GEORGE

With stable bank money markets under 1% and even their 12 mo CDs around 1.5% [notice I said &quot;stable bank&quot;; I consider, IMO, higher CD rates a good indication of an unstable bank]; where&#039;s the &quot;tax advantage&quot; of borrowing with net pay at 5% mortgage interest, or even 3% for that matter?

Paying off even a make-believe 3% home mortgage loan makes you like the equivalent of 4-5% interest on gross pay....after-all you pay the make-believe reduced 3% house payments out of your net pay bloggers.

Now, tell me how this makes sense, even saving 6 months gross pay extra cash, while you make house payments; to protect you from a lay off?

Especially if renting is 1/2 the monthly cost.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77711&#039;,&#039;Softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77711&#039;,&#039;Softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77709\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nRIGHT ON GEORGE\r\n\r\nWith stable bank money markets under 1% and even their 12 mo CDs around 1.5% &#91;notice I said \&quot;stable bank\&quot;; I consider, IMO, higher CD rates a good indication of an unstable bank&#93;; where\&#039;s the \&quot;tax advantage\&quot; of borrowing with net pay at 5% mortgage interest, or even 3% for that matter?\r\n\r\nPaying off even a make-believe 3% home mortgage loan makes you like the equivalent of 4-5% interest on gross pay....after-all you pay the make-believe reduced 3% house payments out of your net pay bloggers.\r\n\r\nNow, tell me how this makes sense, even saving 6 months gross pay extra cash, while you make house payments; to protect you from a lay off?\r\n\r\nEspecially if renting is 1\/2 the monthly cost.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77709' rel="nofollow">george @ 11</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>RIGHT ON GEORGE</p>
<p>With stable bank money markets under 1% and even their 12 mo CDs around 1.5% [notice I said "stable bank"; I consider, IMO, higher CD rates a good indication of an unstable bank]; where&#8217;s the &#8220;tax advantage&#8221; of borrowing with net pay at 5% mortgage interest, or even 3% for that matter?</p>
<p>Paying off even a make-believe 3% home mortgage loan makes you like the equivalent of 4-5% interest on gross pay&#8230;.after-all you pay the make-believe reduced 3% house payments out of your net pay bloggers.</p>
<p>Now, tell me how this makes sense, even saving 6 months gross pay extra cash, while you make house payments; to protect you from a lay off?</p>
<p>Especially if renting is 1/2 the monthly cost.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77711','Softwarengineer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77711','Softwarengineer','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77709\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;george @ 11&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nRIGHT ON GEORGE\r\n\r\nWith stable bank money markets under 1% and even their 12 mo CDs around 1.5% &amp;#91;notice I said \&quot;stable bank\&quot;; I consider, IMO, higher CD rates a good indication of an unstable bank&amp;#93;; where\'s the \&quot;tax advantage\&quot; of borrowing with net pay at 5% mortgage interest, or even 3% for that matter?\r\n\r\nPaying off even a make-believe 3% home mortgage loan makes you like the equivalent of 4-5% interest on gross pay....after-all you pay the make-believe reduced 3% house payments out of your net pay bloggers.\r\n\r\nNow, tell me how this makes sense, even saving 6 months gross pay extra cash, while you make house payments; to protect you from a lay off?\r\n\r\nEspecially if renting is 1\/2 the monthly cost.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: george</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77709</link>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The industry is finally coming to face the fact that this is not a typical cycle with bottoming and upticks. They are starting to recognize longer term trends such 13.8 trillion in consumer debt does make a difference and the fact that purchaser&#039;s priorities in a home have changed. Once prices got low enough the buyers came out assisted by low rates and the government $8,000 give away but at the street level even the over $1,000,000 market saw volumes rise once prices got to the point where you could buy under replacement cost and that didn&#039;t even include the lot in some cases which in essence had no value. All of these trends will discourage future inventory  but I am seeing a VERY price concious ourchaser who  has had a total &quot;shift&quot; in values. Many of the purchasers who bought did not do so with the idea of it being a trade and reselling they are taking longer term views and in the case of the folks purchasing homes over a $1,000,000 I saw cases where the purchasers got shorter term mortagages with the idea the home would be paid off at the time they would be ready to move on. The real estate industry has never seen this type of thinking before. This is a total shift from a &quot;consumption&quot; economy to a &quot;conservation&quot; economy and how this all plays out over the next few years will be interesting. My persoanl opinion is that typical &quot;cyclical&quot; thinking will bite you.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77709&#039;,&#039;george&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77709&#039;,&#039;george&#039;,&#039;The industry is finally coming to face the fact that this is not a typical cycle with bottoming and upticks. They are starting to recognize longer term trends such 13.8 trillion in consumer debt does make a difference and the fact that purchaser\&#039;s priorities in a home have changed. Once prices got low enough the buyers came out assisted by low rates and the government $8,000 give away but at the street level even the over $1,000,000 market saw volumes rise once prices got to the point where you could buy under replacement cost and that didn\&#039;t even include the lot in some cases which in essence had no value. All of these trends will discourage future inventory  but I am seeing a VERY price concious ourchaser who  has had a total \&quot;shift\&quot; in values. Many of the purchasers who bought did not do so with the idea of it being a trade and reselling they are taking longer term views and in the case of the folks purchasing homes over a $1,000,000 I saw cases where the purchasers got shorter term mortagages with the idea the home would be paid off at the time they would be ready to move on. The real estate industry has never seen this type of thinking before. This is a total shift from a \&quot;consumption\&quot; economy to a \&quot;conservation\&quot; economy and how this all plays out over the next few years will be interesting. My persoanl opinion is that typical \&quot;cyclical\&quot; thinking will bite you.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The industry is finally coming to face the fact that this is not a typical cycle with bottoming and upticks. They are starting to recognize longer term trends such 13.8 trillion in consumer debt does make a difference and the fact that purchaser&#8217;s priorities in a home have changed. Once prices got low enough the buyers came out assisted by low rates and the government $8,000 give away but at the street level even the over $1,000,000 market saw volumes rise once prices got to the point where you could buy under replacement cost and that didn&#8217;t even include the lot in some cases which in essence had no value. All of these trends will discourage future inventory  but I am seeing a VERY price concious ourchaser who  has had a total &#8220;shift&#8221; in values. Many of the purchasers who bought did not do so with the idea of it being a trade and reselling they are taking longer term views and in the case of the folks purchasing homes over a $1,000,000 I saw cases where the purchasers got shorter term mortagages with the idea the home would be paid off at the time they would be ready to move on. The real estate industry has never seen this type of thinking before. This is a total shift from a &#8220;consumption&#8221; economy to a &#8220;conservation&#8221; economy and how this all plays out over the next few years will be interesting. My persoanl opinion is that typical &#8220;cyclical&#8221; thinking will bite you.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77709','george',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77709','george','The industry is finally coming to face the fact that this is not a typical cycle with bottoming and upticks. They are starting to recognize longer term trends such 13.8 trillion in consumer debt does make a difference and the fact that purchaser\'s priorities in a home have changed. Once prices got low enough the buyers came out assisted by low rates and the government $8,000 give away but at the street level even the over $1,000,000 market saw volumes rise once prices got to the point where you could buy under replacement cost and that didn\'t even include the lot in some cases which in essence had no value. All of these trends will discourage future inventory  but I am seeing a VERY price concious ourchaser who  has had a total \&quot;shift\&quot; in values. Many of the purchasers who bought did not do so with the idea of it being a trade and reselling they are taking longer term views and in the case of the folks purchasing homes over a $1,000,000 I saw cases where the purchasers got shorter term mortagages with the idea the home would be paid off at the time they would be ready to move on. The real estate industry has never seen this type of thinking before. This is a total shift from a \&quot;consumption\&quot; economy to a \&quot;conservation\&quot; economy and how this all plays out over the next few years will be interesting. My persoanl opinion is that typical \&quot;cyclical\&quot; thinking will bite you.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: David Losh</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77704</link>
		<dc:creator>David Losh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77649&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Tim @ 2&lt;/a&gt; - 

What about Moody&#039;s putting Bremerton/Silverdale in the top five places for appreciation? Was that a link I saw here? 

That&#039;s one I really do not understand.

To be fair comment 1 is on topic for a news round up.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77704&#039;,&#039;David Losh&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77704&#039;,&#039;David Losh&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77649\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;The Tim @ 2&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nWhat about Moody\&#039;s putting Bremerton\/Silverdale in the top five places for appreciation? Was that a link I saw here? \r\n\r\nThat\&#039;s one I really do not understand.\r\n\r\nTo be fair comment 1 is on topic for a news round up.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77649' rel="nofollow">The Tim @ 2</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>What about Moody&#8217;s putting Bremerton/Silverdale in the top five places for appreciation? Was that a link I saw here? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s one I really do not understand.</p>
<p>To be fair comment 1 is on topic for a news round up.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77704','David Losh',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77704','David Losh','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77649\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;The Tim @ 2&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nWhat about Moody\'s putting Bremerton\/Silverdale in the top five places for appreciation? Was that a link I saw here? \r\n\r\nThat\'s one I really do not understand.\r\n\r\nTo be fair comment 1 is on topic for a news round up.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: meadows</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77696</link>
		<dc:creator>meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our friends (two small kids) just bought a 100 year old home here in Bellingham. They had been renting, which I had urged them to do after they sold their home &quot;in the county&quot; at the peak a couple years back. But they drank the juice, I couldn&#039;t stop them, I tried. They paid way too much for a too small fixer-upper on a small lot. They could&#039;ve paid half the (new) monthly payment for a great rental in a nicer neighborhood with lots more room. And waited a bit more...

Ya don&#039;t have to be a teenager to respond to peer pressure groupthink. All those links to Tim&#039;s charts, facts and trends sort of worked for awhile... but could I have done more?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77696&#039;,&#039;meadows&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77696&#039;,&#039;meadows&#039;,&#039;Our friends (two small kids) just bought a 100 year old home here in Bellingham. They had been renting, which I had urged them to do after they sold their home \&quot;in the county\&quot; at the peak a couple years back. But they drank the juice, I couldn\&#039;t stop them, I tried. They paid way too much for a too small fixer-upper on a small lot. They could\&#039;ve paid half the (new) monthly payment for a great rental in a nicer neighborhood with lots more room. And waited a bit more...\r\n\r\nYa don\&#039;t have to be a teenager to respond to peer pressure groupthink. All those links to Tim\&#039;s charts, facts and trends sort of worked for awhile... but could I have done more?&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our friends (two small kids) just bought a 100 year old home here in Bellingham. They had been renting, which I had urged them to do after they sold their home &#8220;in the county&#8221; at the peak a couple years back. But they drank the juice, I couldn&#8217;t stop them, I tried. They paid way too much for a too small fixer-upper on a small lot. They could&#8217;ve paid half the (new) monthly payment for a great rental in a nicer neighborhood with lots more room. And waited a bit more&#8230;</p>
<p>Ya don&#8217;t have to be a teenager to respond to peer pressure groupthink. All those links to Tim&#8217;s charts, facts and trends sort of worked for awhile&#8230; but could I have done more?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77696','meadows',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77696','meadows','Our friends (two small kids) just bought a 100 year old home here in Bellingham. They had been renting, which I had urged them to do after they sold their home \&quot;in the county\&quot; at the peak a couple years back. But they drank the juice, I couldn\'t stop them, I tried. They paid way too much for a too small fixer-upper on a small lot. They could\'ve paid half the (new) monthly payment for a great rental in a nicer neighborhood with lots more room. And waited a bit more...\r\n\r\nYa don\'t have to be a teenager to respond to peer pressure groupthink. All those links to Tim\'s charts, facts and trends sort of worked for awhile... but could I have done more?',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: ray pepper</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77689</link>
		<dc:creator>ray pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The insurers tell us all we need to know.  Throw the charts and graphs out the window!  Sorry Tim!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/PMI-Second-Quarter-2009-Risk-prnews-3858533375.html?x=0&amp;.v=1

Good Lord Buyers!

Make your offer AND DONT BUDGE! 
Let the prices come down to you!
Avoid all multiple offer scenarios! 

Take your time and find that GEM!............There will be more then you can imagine.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77689&#039;,&#039;ray pepper&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77689&#039;,&#039;ray pepper&#039;,&#039;The insurers tell us all we need to know.  Throw the charts and graphs out the window!  Sorry Tim!\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/PMI-Second-Quarter-2009-Risk-prnews-3858533375.html?x=0&amp;.v=1\r\n\r\nGood Lord Buyers!\r\n\r\nMake your offer AND DONT BUDGE! \r\nLet the prices come down to you!\r\nAvoid all multiple offer scenarios! \r\n\r\nTake your time and find that GEM!............There will be more then you can imagine.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insurers tell us all we need to know.  Throw the charts and graphs out the window!  Sorry Tim!</p>
<p><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/PMI-Second-Quarter-2009-Risk-prnews-3858533375.html?x=0&amp;.v=1" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/news/PMI-Second-Quarter-2009-Risk-prnews-3858533375.html?x=0&amp;.v=1</a></p>
<p>Good Lord Buyers!</p>
<p>Make your offer AND DONT BUDGE!<br />
Let the prices come down to you!<br />
Avoid all multiple offer scenarios! </p>
<p>Take your time and find that GEM!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;There will be more then you can imagine.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77689','ray pepper',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77689','ray pepper','The insurers tell us all we need to know.  Throw the charts and graphs out the window!  Sorry Tim!\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/PMI-Second-Quarter-2009-Risk-prnews-3858533375.html?x=0&amp;amp;.v=1\r\n\r\nGood Lord Buyers!\r\n\r\nMake your offer AND DONT BUDGE! \r\nLet the prices come down to you!\r\nAvoid all multiple offer scenarios! \r\n\r\nTake your time and find that GEM!............There will be more then you can imagine.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77668</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Aubrey does try to be balanced, and probably figures he&#039;s succeeded when he&#039;s upset agents and bubble bloggers equally.  I don&#039;t have a feel for the new guy at the Times yet.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77668&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77668&#039;,&#039;Kary L. Krismer&#039;,&#039;I think Aubrey does try to be balanced, and probably figures he\&#039;s succeeded when he\&#039;s upset agents and bubble bloggers equally.  I don\&#039;t have a feel for the new guy at the Times yet.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Aubrey does try to be balanced, and probably figures he&#8217;s succeeded when he&#8217;s upset agents and bubble bloggers equally.  I don&#8217;t have a feel for the new guy at the Times yet.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77668','Kary L. Krismer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77668','Kary L. Krismer','I think Aubrey does try to be balanced, and probably figures he\'s succeeded when he\'s upset agents and bubble bloggers equally.  I don\'t have a feel for the new guy at the Times yet.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: what goes up must come down</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77662</link>
		<dc:creator>what goes up must come down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey didn&#039;t I try to point out just how credible JLS is&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77662&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77662&#039;,&#039;what goes up must come down&#039;,&#039;hey didn\&#039;t I try to point out just how credible JLS is&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey didn&#8217;t I try to point out just how credible JLS is
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77662','what goes up must come down',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77662','what goes up must come down','hey didn\'t I try to point out just how credible JLS is',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Softwarengineer</title>
		<link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/07/june-reporting-roundup-muted-enthusiasm-for-increasing-sales/#comment-77660</link>
		<dc:creator>Softwarengineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77656&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;patient @ 3&lt;/a&gt; - 

YES PATIENT

The seasonal spurt of wanna-be home owners shuffing pending sales documentation [mostly worthless?] at banks and other mortgage agencies, takes like 5 months to digest I hear....plenty of time for the following:

More home price collapses, causing pending sales to default.

Potential sky-rocketing mortgage rates making them &quot;unqualified&quot;, because of the depression we&#039;re in IMO.

Or God forbid, the pending sales [closed too, leading to an imminent foreclosure?] household incomes suffer a lay off....&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77660&#039;,&#039;Softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77660&#039;,&#039;Softwarengineer&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77656\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;patient @ 3&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nYES PATIENT\r\n\r\nThe seasonal spurt of wanna-be home owners shuffing pending sales documentation &#91;mostly worthless?&#93; at banks and other mortgage agencies, takes like 5 months to digest I hear....plenty of time for the following:\r\n\r\nMore home price collapses, causing pending sales to default.\r\n\r\nPotential sky-rocketing mortgage rates making them \&quot;unqualified\&quot;, because of the depression we\&#039;re in IMO.\r\n\r\nOr God forbid, the pending sales &#91;closed too, leading to an imminent foreclosure?&#93; household incomes suffer a lay off....&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77656' rel="nofollow">patient @ 3</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>YES PATIENT</p>
<p>The seasonal spurt of wanna-be home owners shuffing pending sales documentation [mostly worthless?] at banks and other mortgage agencies, takes like 5 months to digest I hear&#8230;.plenty of time for the following:</p>
<p>More home price collapses, causing pending sales to default.</p>
<p>Potential sky-rocketing mortgage rates making them &#8220;unqualified&#8221;, because of the depression we&#8217;re in IMO.</p>
<p>Or God forbid, the pending sales [closed too, leading to an imminent foreclosure?] household incomes suffer a lay off&#8230;.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77660','Softwarengineer',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77660','Softwarengineer','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77656\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;patient @ 3&lt;\/a&gt; - \r\n\r\nYES PATIENT\r\n\r\nThe seasonal spurt of wanna-be home owners shuffing pending sales documentation &amp;#91;mostly worthless?&amp;#93; at banks and other mortgage agencies, takes like 5 months to digest I hear....plenty of time for the following:\r\n\r\nMore home price collapses, causing pending sales to default.\r\n\r\nPotential sky-rocketing mortgage rates making them \&quot;unqualified\&quot;, because of the depression we\'re in IMO.\r\n\r\nOr God forbid, the pending sales &amp;#91;closed too, leading to an imminent foreclosure?&amp;#93; household incomes suffer a lay off....',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Matsayswhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matsayswhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the note of sensational reporting, NPR had a bit about housing this morning (I&#039;m pretty sure it was Greg Heberlein&#039;s bit) and it was very much overly optimistic. I found myself chuckling and thinking that the folks on Seattle Bubble would have some thoughts regarding how &quot;GREAT&quot; things are.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77659&#039;,&#039;Matsayswhat&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77659&#039;,&#039;Matsayswhat&#039;,&#039;On the note of sensational reporting, NPR had a bit about housing this morning (I\&#039;m pretty sure it was Greg Heberlein\&#039;s bit) and it was very much overly optimistic. I found myself chuckling and thinking that the folks on Seattle Bubble would have some thoughts regarding how \&quot;GREAT\&quot; things are.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the note of sensational reporting, NPR had a bit about housing this morning (I&#8217;m pretty sure it was Greg Heberlein&#8217;s bit) and it was very much overly optimistic. I found myself chuckling and thinking that the folks on Seattle Bubble would have some thoughts regarding how &#8220;GREAT&#8221; things are.
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		<title>By: patient</title>
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		<dc:creator>patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like the latest unemployment numbers put a fork in many of the recovery expectations. It&#039;s kind of hard to believe that the bottom will occur during increasing unemployment. It&#039;s also hard to believe that the bottom will occur in peak selling season. Not that reasonable assumptions have stopped these sources to proclaim bottoms before. The timing to turn less optimistic when there actually are some positive data as support is surprising to say the least.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77656&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77656&#039;,&#039;patient&#039;,&#039;It seems like the latest unemployment numbers put a fork in many of the recovery expectations. It\&#039;s kind of hard to believe that the bottom will occur during increasing unemployment. It\&#039;s also hard to believe that the bottom will occur in peak selling season. Not that reasonable assumptions have stopped these sources to proclaim bottoms before. The timing to turn less optimistic when there actually are some positive data as support is surprising to say the least.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like the latest unemployment numbers put a fork in many of the recovery expectations. It&#8217;s kind of hard to believe that the bottom will occur during increasing unemployment. It&#8217;s also hard to believe that the bottom will occur in peak selling season. Not that reasonable assumptions have stopped these sources to proclaim bottoms before. The timing to turn less optimistic when there actually are some positive data as support is surprising to say the least.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77656','patient',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77656','patient','It seems like the latest unemployment numbers put a fork in many of the recovery expectations. It\'s kind of hard to believe that the bottom will occur during increasing unemployment. It\'s also hard to believe that the bottom will occur in peak selling season. Not that reasonable assumptions have stopped these sources to proclaim bottoms before. The timing to turn less optimistic when there actually are some positive data as support is surprising to say the least.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: The Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-77648&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;atcguru @ 1&lt;/a&gt; - Yes, we linked up that story &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/06/weekend-news-roundup-3/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yesterday morning&lt;/a&gt;.  Also, please keep off-topic comments on &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlebubble.com/blog/category/open-thread/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the open threads&lt;/a&gt;.  Thanks.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;77649&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;77649&#039;,&#039;The Tim&#039;,&#039;&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-77648\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;atcguru @ 1&lt;\/a&gt; - Yes, we linked up that story &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/07\/06\/weekend-news-roundup-3\/\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;yesterday morning&lt;\/a&gt;.  Also, please keep off-topic comments on &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/category\/open-thread\/\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;the open threads&lt;\/a&gt;.  Thanks.&#039;,&#039;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RE:</b> <a href='#comment-77648' rel="nofollow">atcguru @ 1</a> &#8211; Yes, we linked up that story <a href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/06/weekend-news-roundup-3/" rel="nofollow">yesterday morning</a>.  Also, please keep off-topic comments on <a href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/category/open-thread/" rel="nofollow">the open threads</a>.  Thanks.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77649','The Tim',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77649','The Tim','&lt;b&gt;RE:&lt;\/b&gt; &lt;a href=\'#comment-77648\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;atcguru @ 1&lt;\/a&gt; - Yes, we linked up that story &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/07\/06\/weekend-news-roundup-3\/\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;yesterday morning&lt;\/a&gt;.  Also, please keep off-topic comments on &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/category\/open-thread\/\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;the open threads&lt;\/a&gt;.  Thanks.',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: atcguru</title>
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		<dc:creator>atcguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No specific comment on your post, Tim, but I wanted to post this tidbit I saw on Yahoo today, from smartmoney.com.  The article dealt with avoidance of the 5 worst housing markets in the country right now, in their opinion.  Portland was on the list:<br />
*******<br />
4) Portland, Ore.<br />
In the Northwest, median home prices are down but they remain above the national average. Portland’s prices fell 2.1% in March. Home prices in Seattle were down 2.0% for the month.</p>
<p>“Portland’s still going down,” says Dave McCarthy, president and chief executive of Integrated Asset Services, a real estate valuation and asset disposition and management company that collects data on the housing market.</p>
<p>The city “has remained pretty strong but they’re starting to feel some of the effects,” he adds.</p>
<p>The local labor market may be playing a role, Moody says. Portland’s unemployment rate was 11.6% in April, according to the Department of Labor. That’s well above the national average for the month (8.9%).</p>
<p>The Pacific Northwest bubble was among the last to burst, which could mean the market will be among the last to recover.<br />
******<br />
Note the last sentence&#8230;..it seems some real estate folks are starting to change their tune (?)
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77648','atcguru',''); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77648','atcguru','No specific comment on your post, Tim, but I wanted to post this tidbit I saw on Yahoo today, from smartmoney.com.  The article dealt with avoidance of the 5 worst housing markets in the country right now, in their opinion.  Portland was on the list:\r\n*******\r\n4) Portland, Ore.\r\nIn the Northwest, median home prices are down but they remain above the national average. Portland&acirc;s prices fell 2.1% in March. Home prices in Seattle were down 2.0% for the month.\r\n\r\n&acirc;Portland&acirc;s still going down,&acirc; says Dave McCarthy, president and chief executive of Integrated Asset Services, a real estate valuation and asset disposition and management company that collects data on the housing market.\r\n\r\nThe city &acirc;has remained pretty strong but they&acirc;re starting to feel some of the effects,&acirc; he adds.\r\n\r\nThe local labor market may be playing a role, Moody says. Portland&acirc;s unemployment rate was 11.6% in April, according to the Department of Labor. That&acirc;s well above the national average for the month (8.9%).\r\n\r\nThe Pacific Northwest bubble was among the last to burst, which could mean the market will be among the last to recover.\r\n******\r\nNote the last sentence.....it seems some real estate folks are starting to change their tune (?)',''); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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