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By: Kary L. Krismer

Kary L. Krismer — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:36:27 +0000

I pulled the first four this month for King County, and they were all continuance of trustee sale docs. I’m not going to look at all 70 or so that have been filed since July 26, but it’s possible they almost all were.

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By: Kary L. Krismer

Kary L. Krismer — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:32:11 +0000

RE: DrShort @ 12 – And only 9 the first two days! I’m not certain that they index NOT sale documents as fast as deeds though. With the deeds, King County is very fast–within minutes. With NOT sale docs they may take longer, because they aren’t as time critical for anyone to know about.

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By: DrShort

DrShort — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:52:48 +0000

By Kary L. Krismer @ 2:

RE: S-Crow @ 1 – Apparently the same pattern up there, if not even more so. Only 43 of the 1,400 were filed the last week. King County was roughly 60 if I recall correctly.

If this holds for this week too, I’d say pretty clearly they were trying to beat the new law. But we’ll know better in a month or two.

Only 8 filed yesterday, so I think we’ll see a lull in NTS filings for a month or so until the pipeline fills back up. The rise in Trustee Deeds is probably more interesting. Already seen 54 of those in the first two days of the month (although that’s a really small sample).

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By: Kary L. Krismer

Kary L. Krismer — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:02:33 +0000

RE: Marc @ 7 – I was only addressing the deed of trust issue on agricultural land, and hadn’t even noticed the reference to warranty deeds. But I had noticed you said “I think” which is actually why I responded. I thought you’d like to know.
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By: Raj

Raj — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:09:36 +0000

I will buy the when the tax credit rise to 25K

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By: Dan C.

Dan C. — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:09:28 +0000

Thanks Kary!
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By: Softwarengineer

Softwarengineer — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:19:53 +0000

No wonder my local realitor advertises bank owned homes on its TV screen sign

Hades, from Tim’s numbers, asssuming listed homes generally get delisted (?) in groves, the default dummy units rule the sales %?
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By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:22:31 +0000

Kary,

I know agricultural property financing is handled differently but, since I never deal with it, I’m not up to speed on the details, thus the “I think” qualification. I don’t doubt your take on the non-judicial foreclosure issue. However, I’m sure agricultural property is stil routinely conveyed by warranty deed in arms length transactions. In fact, real estate contract fulfillment deeds usually take the form of a statutory warranty deed with additional language explaining their fulfillment purpose.
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By: Kary L. Krismer

Kary L. Krismer — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:27:30 +0000

Dan C., Google “County name” Recorder” and you should find the search site for each county. This is for King County:

http://www.kingcounty.gov/business/Recorders.aspx

Marc, deeds of trust cannot be used for agricultural property in Washington. They mainly use real estate contracts for such property. If the deed of trust doesn’t recite that the property is not used for agricultural property, then it cannot be non-judicially foreclosed.
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By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:16:14 +0000

Keep in mind that all of the recorded documents in these graphs (Warranty Deeds, Notice of Trustee Sales, and Trusteee Deeds) are used with all types of real property: residential homes (single and multi-family) as well as commercial, industrial, and (I think) agricultrural property.

I don’t doubt that the large majority of these documents that are currently being recorded pertain to residential real estate since the commercial market has seen a dramatic slow down in transaction volume. However, this leaves these statistics subject to the same flaw that the median price is subject to: the mix of different property types is constantly changing thereby limiting the predictive value of month to month, year over year, and year to year comparisons.

That said, it’s definitely interesting to watch the foreclosure rate in “real time.”
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By: Dan C.

Dan C. — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:16:12 +0000

Sorry if this has been posted a million times, but where does one find the Notice of Trutee sale filings?
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By: Kary L. Krismer

Kary L. Krismer — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:11:53 +0000

Thinking about this further, if this does hold, then it was extremely stupid of the legislature not to pass this with an emergency clause so that it would be effective immediately. If it does hold, this will be two sessions in a row where the legislature caused people in financial difficulties more trouble than if they’d just done nothing.

I hope the legislature never tries to do anything to try to help real estate agents.
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By: Kary L. Krismer

Kary L. Krismer — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:07:23 +0000

RE: S-Crow @ 1 – Apparently the same pattern up there, if not even more so. Only 43 of the 1,400 were filed the last week. King County was roughly 60 if I recall correctly.

If this holds for this week too, I’d say pretty clearly they were trying to beat the new law. But we’ll know better in a month or two.
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By: S-Crow

S-Crow — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:45 +0000

Snohomish Co. Notice of Trustee Sales that I searched last evening from June 1st to date was about 1,400. That’s a lot of homes in trouble.
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