Posted by: Charlie Walsh

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  1. My SE King County Property Assessment Went Down 12.3%

    Its unofficial, but verbally others in SE King County tell me their’s went up.

    If what I’m hearing is true, the King County property assessment process is in a a total quagmire.

    But another thought to brighten your day…..LOL….let’s say your assessment went down like mine, but what if they increase your property tax next year anyway?

  2. If I just bought a house for a ‘normal’ price (i.e. not a short sale) two months ago, the property tax valuation should be approximately what I bought if for, right?

  3. RE: softwarengineer @ 1 – Well, as I’m sure you know, if the average reduction in assessment was more than yours, changes are your taxes will go up. The tax paid is relative to all the other properties.

  4. On average property tax assessments went down by about 15% in King County this year, but it can vary widely by neighborhood. Indeed, plenty of homeowners saw their assessments increase.

    If your home isnt overassessed there isnt much you can do about your property tax bill. However, if the nominal tax rate is raised for everyone, the people that will lose the most are the ones who should have appealed… but didn’t.

  5. Joe-

    Unfortunately not. King County properties are assessed once per year as of January 1st. Therefore, the price you paid for the home in July or August this year is not relevant to your January 1st, 2009 assessment because the sale happened after the assessment date.

    This doesnt mean you aren’t overassessed though. The best way to find out if you’re overassessed or not is to type your address into the ValueAppeal homepage and we’ll tell you instantly for free.

  6. We closed in October, and they still assessed our property high the next year. I contemplated appealing to get the experience, but didn’t. If I’d known of Valueappeal at the time (assuming it existed then), that might have gotten me off my butt.

  7. My assessment went up 100K last year and went down 100K this year. In prior years, the assessment would actually stay about the same from year to year. This is on a house I bought for 300K in 2003. I have to agree with SoftwareEngineer in that the King County Assessor’s office seems to be in a total quagmire.

  8. Appealing your tax assessment is kind of a lost art. For many new home owners this will be new information. It’s true that some people feel that lowering your assessment may lower a buyer’s perception of value. In the past that may have been true.

    With declining property prices more and more people are going to want to lower expenses or lower perceived value. Governments are going to be looking for money. Tax assessment is a quick and easy way to raise revenue.

    When I first saw this site I originally thought it is a great concept in a declining market. You could use it to prepare low ball offers on properties. It’s refreshing that in a time when every one wants to prop up prices this site is looking to lower them.

  9. Charlie, I think there are a couple date calculation errors in your post. 

    If the Thompsons received their notice on Sept 10, then filing the petition on Nov 10 would not be timely.  The assessment notice would have been mailed no later than Sept 9 and there are 31 days in Oct.  This means the 60 days would expire on Nov 8, which is a Sunday.  So, will the petition be timely if filed on Monday, Nov 9th? 

    Also, what constitutes filing?  Does my petition have to be postmarked by the deadline or received by the deadline?

    Finally, it appears you miscounted again at the end of the post, right before your table of dates. If the assessment notices are mailed out on Sept 3rd, 60 days expires on Nov 2nd. Why do you state that the deadline is Oct 26th?       

  10. By David Losh @ 8:

    Appealing your tax assessment is kind of a lost art. For many new home owners this will be new information. It’s true that some people feel that lowering your assessment may lower a buyer’s perception of value. In the past that may have been true.

    I’m not sure that’s ever been true, but FWIW, I wrote a piece on that topic over at Valueappeal.

    http://blog.valueappeal.com/zestimate/could-lowered-assessed-value-hurt-you-when-you-sell-your-home

    My conclusion was it was most likely to have no effect at all, that it was slightly possible it would increase the amount someone was willing to pay (because of lower tax payments), and somewhat less likely than that to decrease what they’re willing to pay.

  11. RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 9

    That part of the comment was in response to your post on the ValueAppeal site.

    It may have been an issue when people could just sell a property and move on, but today most, and I mean most, people are just stuck with a property declining in value.

    Your assessment won’t be going down below market pricing because the numbers are based on market sales. The comparables are coming in lower and lower. The County will most likely try to keep your assessment up as high as possible, but it’s ridiculous for you to pay more in taxes than what your property is actually worth.

    I’m finding it hard to understand why people in the Real Estate business can not admit property values are declining and will be, now, for years to come.

  12. By David Losh @ 11:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 9 – Your assessment won’t be going down below market pricing because the numbers are based on market sales. The comparables are coming in lower and lower. The County will most likely try to keep your assessment up as high as possible, but it’s ridiculous for you to pay more in taxes than what your property is actually worth.

    I’m finding it hard to understand why people in the Real Estate business can not admit property values are declining and will be, now, for years to come.

    The county has no incentive to keep “your assessment up as high as possible . . ..” You should know that.

    I don’t as to the second part, I don’t think anyone is denying that property values have declined, but any projection of years and years to come is worthless.

  13. Municipality has interest in keeping “assessment up high” and despite nice anecdotes, appealing the county shmeckspert is typically a graceless waste of time. The only ‘chin’ in shmeckspert role is for increased valuation + revenue. Greater fool (a.k.a. comparable recent sales) property values create high comps and increased tax revenues – that’s why they are utilized and have been considered fair + lovely. Assessor is typically defensive and somewhat punchy regarding technique and skill of their keen-math valuation.
    Now things are different and comps are unfavorable as greater fools are reduced in number and cities are fiscally challenged or broke while wrestling the likes of T. Eiman…I wonder if municipalities will abandon greater fool valuation in favor of stability which could also be read as integrity. In any case – we’re absolutely broke and I suspect current tax levels will be remembered fondly.

  14. Thanks for double checking the appeal deadlines in the post. I’ll take a look too verify.

    As to your question about what constitutes a filing. The King County Assessor’s website says this:

    “If submitted by mail, petitions must be postmarked by the post office no later than the filing deadline”

    In reality they aren’t that hard core about it. Usually if you aren’t more than a week or two late in filing your appeal they’ll accept it anyway. If you’re a month or more late then you’re out of luck. If you never received your assessment notice in the mail you can sign an affidavit saying you never received it and they’ll allow you to file your petition far after the deadline. You have to call them to get the affidavit.

  15. RE: Charlie Walsh @ 14 – That’s interesting. I’ve had them catch a tax payment check that was mailed a day late. I wouldn’t think it would be worth paying someone to check postmarks until at least 3 days after the deadline. The interest simply isn’t that much.

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