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Weekly Twitter Digest (Link Roundup) for 2009-11-07

By The Tim on November 7th, 2009 at 5:00 AM · 12 Comments

  • Seattle has its very own foreclosure tour. http://is.gd/4JmKk #
  • The only people who believe NAR's "pending sales" measure has any relation to reality are the willfully ignorant. http://is.gd/4LeQO #
  • Seattle City Council unanimously approves "backyard cottages" http://is.gd/4LDaT #
  • Wow, weird. RT @mattgoyer: New blog post: Moda Repossessed? http://bit.ly/24T0rB #
  • Apparently Seattle Bubble placed 16th out of the "top 75 Seattle Media Websites" for 2009. http://is.gd/4Mi1C HT @moniguzman #
  • Seattle Times:Seattle overwhelmingly passes affordable-housing levy – http://is.gd/4N6PB #
  • Microsoft cuts 800 more jobs, moving beyond the 5,000 announced in Jan. http://is.gd/4N9DW #
  • CBIC, a Seattle-based insurer of contractors, making big cutbacks with a combination of layoffs, pay cuts, and schedule cuts. #
  • Seattle Bubble's 0×10000th comment! http://tinyurl.com/ye8rdj2 #
  • King5: Neighbors left with dirty work in foreclosed homes http://is.gd/4Nwh4 #
  • RT @mattgoyer: Redfin Delivers Near-Real-Time Sales Records for 1.4 Million Homes, Integrates Social Media: http://bit.ly/40wLbm #
  • Seattle Weekly: Condo Demand? Not So Great. But the Homeless Are a Booming Market http://is.gd/4O1eM #
  • $45 billion more in deficit spending. $33b homebuilder tax break, $10b homebuyer tax credit, $2.4b unemployment. WTH. http://is.gd/4O9wa #
  • All the cool details about Redfin's sweet upgrade that shows full info on recently-sold properties: http://is.gd/4Oae4 #
  • NWMLS October data post updated with charts: http://is.gd/4OnOH #
  • U-6 Unemployment at 17.5%. As in nearly 1 in every 5 workers in the USA are unemployed or underemployed. Yikes. #
  • RT @mikesimonsen: How Washington is encouraging big risk on high LTV jumbos. From the @AltosResearch blog. http://bit.ly/4zaDQg #

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  • 2.

    Herman

    Isn’t it against the MLS rules for Redfin to retain the listing photos and so on, after the sale?

  • 3.

    Kary L. Krismer

    RE: Herman @ 2 – I don’t know. They couldn’t take them for a new listing, but I’m unaware of anything that would keep them from using them for this purpose. That doesn’t mean there isn’t such a rule though.

  • 4.

    AMS

    RE: Herman @ 2 – There is a MLS rule against retaining one’s own photos?

  • 5.

    Kary L. Krismer

    RE: AMS @ 4 – I think it’s talking about Redfin perhaps using my photos on one of my listings, for example, when they show sold listings. The chance of the photos they show being one of their own is rather slight, probably less than 1%. They are not a big player in listings.

  • 6.

    AMS

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 5 – Copyright violation?

  • 7.

    Kary L. Krismer

    RE: AMS @ 6 – Perhaps. And that might depend on whatever deal the agent has with the photographer.

  • 8.

    AMS

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 7 – I’m sorry I didn’t go into the theory further.

    Let’s assume the agent owns the photos, or has all legal rights to the photos. (These are not high value photos. Agents probably don’t hire Ansel Adams…)

    So the agent owns the photos, but there is some MLS agreement. The agent allows/agrees that the photos may be used in some way. The copyright violation comes up when someone uses the photos outside of the scope of the agreement. (I guess this might be gray market photos?)

    (Of course we need to exclude the non-protected categories, such as fair use, but I doubt Redfin could claim fair use, or any of the other non-protected uses.)

  • 9.

    Kary L. Krismer

    I’d agree. I was just pointing out that the owner of the photograph might not be a member of the NWMLS, and thus any rule the NWMLS has allowing the use of the photograph could still give rise to copyright issues.

  • 10.

    AMS

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 9 – Oh, that goes a step beyond what I was thinking. If someone is using a photo for commercial use without any permission whatsoever, then that’s the worst case scenario.

    I doubt there is much hot linking, but when a hot linked photo is changed, often to porn, that’s where the hilarity begins.

    This does, in some way, remind me of how music is copied and the RIAA.

    The more interesting commentary comes when one compares the fencing of real estate to copyright laws. There was a time prior to all the bounds and restrictions that fences creates, and the same is true for literary works, except the land has been around longer than history.

  • 11.

    Joel

    I don’t know jack about the legalities of it. All I know is that it’s super cool.

  • 12.

    Hugh Dominic

    I’m not sure I like the idea that photos of the inside of my house are easily found on the Internet. I mean, if I buy a house and there are old photos from a previous seller.

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