Posted by: The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

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  1. Questions: Is it correct to say the warranty deeds include any FSBO transactions and that the MLS stats only include transactions listed thru a realtor? Can FSBOs be listed on the MLS via certain websites? Are there many FSBO deals that actually close? Just curious to see if FSBO’s are more than a blip in this market. Seems to be alot of these signs around. Thanks

  2. The National Association of Realtors said its Pending Home Sales Index, based on contracts signed in November, dropped 16 percent to 96.0, after rising for nine straight months.

    Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast pending home sales, which lead existing home sales by one to two months, falling 2 percent in November after rising to 114.3 in October.

    Despite the monthly drop, the pending Homes Sales Index was 15.5 percent higher compared to November 2008, the Realtors group said.

    Home sales have been boosted by a $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers, which has been expanded and extended to mid-2010. The popular tax credit had been scheduled to expire at the end of November.

    “The fact that pending home sales are comfortably above year-ago levels shows the market has gained sufficient momentum on its own,” said Lawrence Yun, NAR chief economist.

    “We expect another surge in the spring as more home buyers take advantage of affordable housing conditions before the tax credit expires.”

  3. RE: What the Heck @ 1 – The Tim’s stats would include FSBOs, but in this market they are just a blip. In a hot market FSBOs can sell, but in a tough market they tend to become discouraged quickly. No they cannot appear on the NWMLS website. Limited service broker sales do appear there.

    As to the sales for December, they are probably affected somewhat by the threatened expiration of the tax credit. There was a period where buyers didn’t know whether there would be a credit, or if a new credit might have even been larger.

  4. RE: David Losh @ 2 – Again, that was affected by the threatened expiration of the tax credit. As I said over at the Times, with that event I don’t see how anyone could have only projected a 2% drop from October to November–especially over a month after the event, and after many MLSs had probably already reported.

  5. Also, I’d add that some NWMLS sales are by Quit Claim Deed, Executor’s Deed, or even Trustee’s Deed. That makes it even harder to determine the number of FSBO sales.

  6. Kary/Tim – Thanks for the clarification

  7. RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 6 – Are some FSBO Quit Claim Deed, Executor’s Deed, or even Trustee’s Deed?

    If so, what about differences in mix between NWMLS & FSBO?

  8. “Data adds to worries industry is mostly propped up by government stimulus”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34704789/ns/business-real_estate/

    Apparently the “manufacturing sector” is going to keep the housing market from pulling us “back” into recession…

  9. By waitingforseattletocool @ 8:

    December stats are out.

    This link works….
    http://www.nwrealestate.com/nwrpub/common/mktg.html

    It is nice to see prices up more than 2% MOM regardless of the tax credit. At this point, buyers waiting for prices to fall more are just rolling the dice. Prices in Seattle proper might fall another 5%, but they might go the opposite direction. Now is the time to start conservatively shopping.

  10. Is there any way to identify how many active listings are of foreclosures that are being sold by the bank? At more than 400 new foreclosures every month and roughly 7,000 active listings, it would be interesting to see if the ratio of foreclosures in the active listings are growing each month and hold a significant share, or if their cheaper prices keep them moving and leave them with a low ratio in the active listings.

    Much of my curiosity is due to the fact that a low ratio of foreclosures in the active listings would suggest that they have a relatively significant impact on the average home price, bringing it down as more foreclosures show up. If they don’t sell quickly, then perhaps they aren’t all that appealing or the prices aren’t low enough for foreclosures to be a significant factor in average home prices.

  11. RE: The Tim @ 5

    Re: [there are multiple ways to get on the MLS without hiring a traditional REALTORTMOMGWTFBBQ. e.g. – Redfin, MLS4Owners.com, 500 Realty, etc.

    Are there many FSBO deals that actually close?]

    The sales results of the MLS4owners.com sellers are displayed here.

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