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22 responses to “Guided Tour: King County’s New Online Property Records”

  1. drshort

    The coolest feature is a lot of old houses have a picture from the 1930s / 1940s.

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  2. dave

    I’ve been trying to find all the sold units at 1521 2nd Ave in downtown Seattle. It doesn’t seem to work though.

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  3. drshort

    RE: dave @ 2

    I don’t know if this changed with the new site, but it used to take months (like up to 6) for the parcel viewer to reflect an ownership change.

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  4. dave

    Thanks. But with that parcel number, i can’t see the sold units.. am i missing something?

    with the old website, it was much easier.

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  5. dave

    thanks! it works.

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  6. Anonymous Coward

    If you really want the nitty-gritty details, like mortgage holder(s), Notice of Trustee Sale, etc, and up to date ownership information, here’s how. Make a note of the parcel number(s) and click on the link to the recorders office. Click on “Records Search” on the left hand side of the page, click “Records Search”, read and accept the terms and conditions, then click on the Official Public Records Search. Now you can search by tax parcel number or a range of tax parcel numbers, which will bring up all public records related to the property (or properties).

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  7. Fran Tarkenton

    By drshort @ 4:

    I don’t know if this changed with the new site, but it used to take months (like up to 6) for the parcel viewer to reflect an ownership change.

    FWIW, I filed a quit claim deed in person a month or so ago, and it was reflected in the parcel viewer by the time I got back to my office.

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  8. Ron Nelson

    I Remember back when all the Information Was Public, I liked that much better than what they currently Cover Up.

    It seems that the Direction things go in tend to almost create more Opportunity for Crimes to Be Covered Up.

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  9. Ron Nelson

    Had a Friend at work make an Offer on a Shot Sale about 3 months ago.

    Problem is he didn’t Realize that the Home had 5 Liens/Loans on the Property, which you don’t have almost a Snowballs Chance in Hell of Closing. Its going short about 200,000. in Loans… try closing this One~!!

    Try getting 5 Creditors agreeing on this one- 4 probably aren’t going to profit off the Short at all.

    To bad that information wasn’t made more public in King County, if they just left there Site that Mirrored Snohomish County it would of been much better in my opinion.

    If I was involved in Mortgage Fraud, I sure would like the Way King County displays the Lack of Information.

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  10. Ron Nelson

    Short Term Real Estate Flippers/Mortgage Fraud and there is Multiple applications. Easy Access to Mortgage/Loan information also disempowers the Buyers.

    Having Loan information can help determine if you can also get creative in Purchase Agreements. (Wrap around Loans etc.)

    Also if your renting… its nice to know the Landlord is in Good Terms with the Bank/Mortgagee.

    It would be nice if they gave made this type of information Public information the moment they fell behind. Renters shouldn’t be bound to there contract if the Landlord/Mortgagor falls behind in Obligations to the Bank/Mortgagee.

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  11. Ron Nelson

    Correction: Not having easy access to Loan information disempowers the Buyer.

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  12. S-Crow

    RE: Ron Nelson @ 14 – Ron, you can always ask your local escrow firm for any public information that King County does not provide via their online website. We have access to multiple sources of public records and courts. It may not be instantaneous, but you have resources available.

    PS. while I don’t’ know the circumstances of the subject property you refer to, getting lien holders to release the lien so the subject property can sell may or may not be all that much of a hassle. For example, worked on releasing a Federal Tax Lien on a property to the tune of tens of thousands. The IRS has other ways to collect vs. a lien on a single family home with zero equity.

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  13. Jason

    Thanks for posting the tour. After the redesign, I had no idea how to find lists of units at a condominium.

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  14. Ron Nelson

    Yes- I realize there is within the Real Estate industry different sources of Information.. Title Company etc.

    My comments are based simply on the Public Website that Used to give much more detailed information.

    I think they my as well take down the Website since there not really suppling any information anyways who they kidding.

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  15. Ron Nelson

    S-Crow

    You work within The real estate industry?

    Basically my comment is reference to Short Sales:
    Hypothetically…

    If I go out and Borrow Money from 4 Separate People, And can only come up with enough money to pay back Part of the Money to 1 person you think that maybe Im going to have some problems have all 4 Parties agree to the Same terms?

    Thats part of the Problem with many of the Short Sales not Closing.
    The Short Sales with too Many Loans are almost Impossible To Close…

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  16. S-Crow

    RE: Ron Nelson @ 18 – Ron Nelson,

    Your scenario is solvable: All down chain/subsequent lien-holders are essentially wiped out. They agree to do two things: 1) either agree release their lien or 2) foreclosure will do it for them. Releasing the lien does not mean they are relieving the debt owed absent other legal steps a seller may take.

    This is not legal advice, but a response to your “hypothetical” situation.

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  17. Kary L. Krismer

    You can’t really determine loan information from the public records, unless perhaps they are so in default that a notice of trustee’s sale is filed, or obviously if the deed of trust has been reconveyed. You can make educated guesses about the loan levels, but that’s all they are and sometimes your guess will be way off. I’ve had two transactions this year alone where I thought the seller was a bit tight on having funds to close where they weren’t because one of the loans had been paid down (or not fully drawn out).

    BTW, this is a big part of the reason why studies on percent underwater are BS.

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  18. David Losh

    RE: Ron Nelson @ 18

    True, all lien holders have a claim. The house up the street from me was taken over by the contractor who supplied the cabinets on a remodel. He had a claim, a mechanics lien. He refused to release the claim, negotiated with the other lien holders, and ended up with the house.

    You’re right, you just never know.

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