Posted by: Timothy Ellis (The Tim)

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

30 responses to “Real Actual Listing Photos: Genius Edition”

  1. ray pepper

    I just realized its NOT the pictures that make this segment VERY funny its your commentary………….hmmm……..Maybe you missed your calling……………….I love the apocalypse front row seat remark…too funny!

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  2. DavidB

    The house with the pool is located on Magnolia. It looked pretty good in the photos so I went to their open house last weekend. The place is a dump! No way it will sell for the $739K asking price.

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  3. Kevin

    By DavidB @ 2:

    Magnolia. The place is a dump!

    It also seems pretty nice from the photos to me too, what’s the issue with it? Is the pool water actually slimy green?

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  4. One Eyed Man

    I’m pretty sure the house with the pool has another open house coming up soon. But be sure to try the stuffed mushrooms if you want it to live up to the virtual tour. It seems to have that certain Magical Mystery that cries out for locally grown hor dourves to bring out the full ambience of the color scheme and lighting.

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  5. softwarengineer

    If You’re Tall

    How do you keep from burning your rump in the spacious kitchen while bent over chopping onions at the counter with the gas burners on?

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  6. Scotsman

    I finally got my mom to list her house. When the photos came up I couldn’t believe them. While the shots were well done, the photo doctoring was a mess- the weird blue sky was there, along with the luminescent lawn and other oddities. Worst of all were the kitchen cabinets. While actually yellow, they were lightened so much as to appear white- very nice and contemporary. But it will be a real shock when the buyers walk in and don’t recognize anything from the pics. I think it’s a dis-service to all and must backfire as often as it helps. Even worse, the agent is her “friend,” so I didn’t get any concessions there. Funny photos, mis-spellings in the description, on and on, and all at a full 6%. We’ll see if she gets a price that makes it all worthwhile.

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  7. HappyRenter

    By Kevin @ 3:

    By DavidB @ 2:
    Magnolia. The place is a dump!

    It also seems pretty nice from the photos to me too, what’s the issue with it?

    I would need to re-paint the entire house. How many construction sites are there nearby?

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  8. Dan

    By DavidB @ 2:

    The house with the pool is located on Magnolia. It looked pretty good in the photos so I went to their open house last weekend. The place is a dump! No way it will sell for the $739K asking price.

    Well if that is the case then I’d say that notwithtanding the day glow green picture the listing agent did a pretty good job with the photos overall. It looks like it’s not quite been fully updated but the pics don’t tip give the impression it’s at all shabby. No sense from the listing either that this is perched above the bus depot and rail lines.

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  9. One Eyed Man

    RE: Scotsman @ 6

    That’s another one of those business etiquette things I never got right. I always thought if someone was your friend you didn’t have to ask for special concessions cause they were your “trusted advisor” just like they said and you automatically got some sort of friends and family deal.

    Either that or maybe I’m as slow witted and gullible as my wife says and I don’t really have any friends. There’s probably more than one painful truth for me in the above comment.

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  10. Scotsman

    RE: One Eyed Man @ 9 -This is the third deal the woman has done for my mom, who is currently 91 and in failing health. I’d settle for competence in putting the listing together and presenting the house to potential buyers. The woman has a reputation, formed during the bubble years, for getting top dollar for her listings. We’ll see- my mom’s house is old and small in a very expensive area, easily a tear down in the past, but perhaps not so much now? In my opinion, nothing is “right” about the entire situation, but it’s not worth the aggravation or discomfort to argue it with my mom. I treat my customers/clients very differently, but that’s my business and life. This isn’t my choice. If she gets $60K more than most think it’s worth then she’s paid for her “services.”

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  11. Kary L. Krismer

    Yet another reason you should not mount a TV over a fireplace.

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  12. Peter Witting

    Great selections! For the last listing (downtown condo), I wonder if the Einstein photo is also to get you to subliminally overlook the $1,184 in monthly maintenance fees?

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  13. ray pepper

    RE: Scotsman @ 10 -R u Serious??” If she gets $60K more than most think it’s worth then she’s paid for her “services.” “Is she going to find a CASH Buyer that will do this? Good luck on the appraisal Scotsman for the 97% of Buyers out there. She may get the offer for 60k over (which I doubt) but it surely won’t close with that same amount.Paying anyone more then 500 to list anything in 2011 going forward is either sheer insanity or grossly misinformed. Especially if your a Bubblehead reader.I know I know its your Mom..and she is ill…So I will give you a PASS on this one.

    God Bless her…………

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  14. Scotsman

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 11

    Um, Kary- you’re wrong. If you’re referring to example number four that isn’t a TV, it’s a remnant of the imported photo used to put some “heat” in the real fireplace. They forgot to close it out before saving the doctored photo. so there we have it- Kary has been proven wrong. Now, Kary can commence arguing that he wasn’t referring to that at all, his was a generic comment, he never claimed to be looking at example number four, etc. blah, blah, blah. Carry on.

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  15. Kary L. Krismer

    RE: Scotsman @ 14 – I did make a mistake. I forgot the emoticon to indicate I was joking. ;-)

    (BTW, the joke was a fire that close to the TV would damage it.)

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  16. DavidB

    Kevin @ 3

    The construction quality of the house is poor. The house has not been well maintained at all and needs many updates and improvements. The basement is not nice at all and smells. The pool looked nice but I didn’t get that close to it.

    The basement is the area in the photo next to the pool with all of the windows and doors. It looks pretty nice in the photos but in reality the pool pump is just inside the door and the basement would need a lot of work to be nice.

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  17. DavidB

    Dan @ 8

    The location of the house isn’t bad. It’s on a dead end street and has a nice view of the water and city. The value is in the land since the house should be torn down.

    The problem with living on the east side of Magnolia is there’s a lot of noise from the trains and black soot dust from the trains gets all over everything. I swore I’d never live on that side of the hill again!

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  18. Scotsman

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 15

    Umm, Ok. Not funny.. . nor believable. But very predictable. Point made.

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  19. Jonness

    By Kary L. Krismer @ 15:

    RE: Scotsman @ 14 – I did make a mistake. I forgot the emoticon to indicate I was joking. ;-)(BTW, the joke was a fire that close to the TV would damage it.)

    Actually, I got the joke (without the emoticon) and thought it was funny. :)

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  20. S. Marty Pantz

    The first image, of the colorful house and pool, reminded me to note Owsley Stanley’s passing this week.

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  21. Julie Lyda

    RE: Scotsman @ 10 -Scotsman, your comment “if she gets $60K more than most think its worth” was an interesting comment.When you say most, who are you referring to? Other agents? Or home buyers.I think this would make for an interesting conversation.

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  22. David Losh

    RE: Julie Lyda @ 21

    I agree, that would be a discussion. Sorry Ray, but you would have to be brain dead to list a house for $500 and hope it sells in today’s market place.

    Those multiple offer properties aren’t by price alone, it needs a complete package.

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  23. Kary L. Krismer

    By Scotsman @ 18:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 15

    Umm, Ok. Not funny.. . nor believable. But very predictable. Point made.

    TVs above fireplaces are one of the things I hate, and it’s a bit of a sore subject because it’s something the wife likes. So far I have prevailed.

    Worse than TVs above fireplaces are those housing units built with a 4:3 space for a TV long after the time that the entire world (except builders and architects) knew TVs were going 16:9 (and that ignores the whole flat-screen issue over the depth of the space). You can have a house built in 2000 that seems obsolete and out of date.

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  24. ray pepper

    RE: David Losh @ 22

    now that is the joke of the day………..

    “Those multiple offer properties aren’t by price alone”

    Sorry to inform EVERYONE……………..Its all about PRICE and it will ALWAYS be ALL about Price.

    Paying 3% to anyone to LIST is sheer insanity..Especially if your a Bubble Head Reader.

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  25. Kary L. Krismer

    By ray pepper @ 24:

    Sorry to inform EVERYONE……………..Its all about PRICE and it will ALWAYS be ALL about Price.

    Sorry to inform you, but sellers actually sometimes care about what that price is. Thus, they want advice on how to clean up. They want good pictures. They want exposure.

    I know you do a lot of that, which sort of goes against your saying that it’s all about price.

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  26. ray pepper

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 25

    Oh Kary we always tell people to clean up..Also to take good pictures..and and and…

    The fact is this. It is a completely different world and the “magical listing agent” cannot do SQUAT to stimulate a sale over a “discount” Brokerage. Broker open it day after day…sit in those Open Houses and serve cookies…..But, the fact remains the price will dictate its sale and if you or Dave believe any other agent can get a higher price then I assure you that the price will be CRUSHED when the appraisal comes along.

    The banks know the environment their lending.

    But, I understand……..I heard the crying 5 years ago when we started ” Why are you doing this? We all have mouths to feed?”

    Its in my opinion everyone has been fed ENOUGH!

    If you do NOT believe me just look at the number of sales of MLS4Owners…Try telling them Traditional Agents will get the seller more money. http://mls4owners.com/results_317.html

    500 Realty was started for Buyers and I have no problem putting a plug out there for outstanding “game changer” companies. Bravo MLS4Owners and RedFin!

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  27. Kary L. Krismer

    By ray pepper @ 26:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 25 – Oh Kary we always tell people to clean up..Also to take good pictures..and and and…

    As I noted, you do those things and that disproves your claim that it’s only price.

    Also, the fact that some agency can sell properties for a certain price is not proof that the sellers could not have netted more using another agency. Rather obviously, it’s easier to sell property for less money than for more money. But most sellers want to sell for more money.

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  28. luke

    You should do one of these specifically dedicated to the over use of wide angle lenses… my personal pet peeve.

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  29. David S

    By luke @ 28:

    You should do one of these specifically dedicated to the over use of wide angle lenses… my personal pet peeve.

    Wide angle lenses are perfectly suitable for the subject, it’s what they are designed for. Some post production treatments are useful because perfect lighting can not be staged in every room. They can also be done very poorly.

    Adding blue sky when there is gloom, adding a fire in every room on top of that sunny day, basically, putting objects in that are not there or taking objects out that are there is my peeve.

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  30. whatsmyname

    RE: David S @ 29
    ” adding a fire in every room on top of that sunny day”

    It might be worthwhile and entertaining if those rooms don’t have fireplaces.

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