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Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

15 responses to “Friday Flashback: NAR’s Laughable Seattle “Analysis””

  1. Pegasus

    Only a RedFin employee would be doing a weekly body slam on the traditional realtor. Pretty funny though. You should do a post on the best David Lereah quotes as he steered the NAR and the public upon the rocks.

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  2. ray pepper

    Red Fin IS going the way of the “traditional realtor” by giving less and less back to buyers, ever increasing office minimums of 6000+ per transaction, and still charging 1.5% to list.

    I bet you could make 10 calls to local “Traditional” Agents in your area that are “desk fee” and 1/2 will give you the same deal OR BETTER if you assist them in finding your home. As for 1.5%-3% to LIST?? Thats going out the window first. You can Bank on That! Sheer insanity!!

    The Buffet is coming to an end! But, unfortuantely there is a VERY long line…………..So Pegasus I wouldn’t say this comes from a Red Fin employee slamming a traditional Realtor…The INSANE fees of both are quickly coming together!

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  3. David Losh

    RE: ray pepper @ 2

    Well, I think consumers should get something for the money they spend. Probably 80% of Real Estate agents bring absolutely nothing to a transaction, or are a hinderance.

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  4. Ira Sacharoff

    RE: ray pepper @ 2
    I wouldn’t say that the body slamming is a result of Tim being a RedFin employee. He would’ve posted the same thing months or years before joining RedFin.

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  5. ricklind

    By Pegasus @ 1:

    Only a RedFin employee would be doing a weekly body slam on the traditional realtor. Pretty funny though. You should do a post on the best David Lereah quotes as he steered the NAR and the public upon the rocks.

    Just pointing out the obvious that since it’s his blog he can do pretty much what he wants to.

    Doesn’t change the perception that during the run up it was always “a great time to buy.” I still hear that from many of the realtors I interact with in other venues.

    I am not bashing realtors, many of whom bring real value to the table. Same said for attorneys.

    I think it is true of many professions, including mine, that when your best tool is a hammer, everything tends to look like a nail. Human nature?

    Best,

    Rick

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  6. Scotsman

    RE: ray pepper @ 2

    Come on Ray- Redfin has those nifty little bar graphs over in the upper right hand corner that show you realtor ratings from satisfied consumers. Do you offer that? Plus many of their realtors are hot- and violent love always sells. They aren’t looking for listings, they’re looking for buyers. They’ll let you come up with the listing, at a discount. It’s a clever approach to a limited amount of the market, but not the future for all. Better than Zillow, but there’s still room for a grand new model.

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  7. Pegasus

    By The Tim @ 5:

    RE: Ira Sacharoff @ 4 – Pretty sure it was a joke.

    It was and I knew Ray would show up after I posted it. However I was really hoping for some other weekend topic that would not be another endless marathon of real estate “professionals” bashing and stalking each other. The consumers unless they are heavily sedated have already figured out who the villains are and are better off watching “Swamp People” gutting alligators.

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  8. ricklind

    By Pegasus @ 8:

    By The Tim @ 5:
    RE: Ira Sacharoff @ 4 – Pretty sure it was a joke.

    It was and I knew Ray would show up after I posted it. However I was really hoping for some other weekend topic that would not be another endless marathon of real estate “professionals” bashing and stalking each other. The consumers unless they are heavily sedated have already figured out who the villains are and are better off watching “Swamp People” gutting alligators.

    Good Stuff! I like Swamp People but am sad that we can’t get the current season streaming on Netflix.

    Might I suggest “Warehouse 13″ on SyFy?

    This should go on open thread but it is Fri and I am beat.

    Rick

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  9. Hugh Dominic

    I love Fridays.

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  10. Ira Sacharoff

    RE: Pegasus @ 8
    In season 3 of Swamp People, Realtors are going to dropped into the Louisiana swamplands, and will be hunted by the Swamp People, but will be left alone by the alligators. Professional courtesy.

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  11. Jonness

    All in all, what we have here is another disappointing showing from the NAR. If they’re going to have any chance of convincing a thinking person of a strong, resilient Seattle housing market, they’re going to have to come up with something more than this steaming pile of tired catchphrases and misleading statistics.

    I think the MBA’s over at the NAR believe 80% of people are stupid. Therefore, there’s no reason to convince thinking people of anything. As long as they sell homes to gullible idiots, their business model will flourish.

    Goebbels wrote the following paragraph in an article dated 12 January 1941, 16 years after Hitler’s first use of the phrase “big lie,” titled “Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik” and translated “From Churchill’s Lie Factory.” It was published in Die Zeit ohne Beispiel.

    “The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.”

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  12. Azucar

    “I think the MBA’s over at the NAR believe 80% of people are stupid. ”

    In my experience, 80% might be an underestimate. Too bad it takes a little while to figure out which group someone belongs to when you first meet them.

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  13. Dirty_Renter

    RE: Ira Sacharoff @ 11
    I heard they’re going to use realtors/bankers as bait next season. Of course, they’ll first have to drench them in Joe’s secret sauce…all the while Troy sings, ‘yeah yeah yeah yeah.’

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  14. Ira Sacharoff

    By Dirty_Renter @ 14:

    RE: Ira Sacharoff @ 11
    I heard they’re going to use realtors/bankers as bait next season. Of course, they’ll first have to drench them in Joe’s secret sauce…all the while Troy sings, ‘yeah yeah yeah yeah.’

    Alligator One to Alligator Two: Didn’t that banker taste a little too rich?

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