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Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

17 responses to “Real Actual Listing Photos: The Lonely Pianos”

  1. joe

    The piano in the listing third from the bottom (titled: sold) looks like it would have required some professional movers and possibly taking out out the front window to remove.

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  2. David S

    I’m glad you are finally featuring pianos. I had made mention of these about two years ago, that certain types of listings always featured a piano not unlike the Czech Sky or repeating fire. Thanks.

    Looks like some of these pianos will play only the blues.

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  3. redmondjp

    I have done drive-by tours through several of the higher-end developments east of Redmond (along Union Hill and Novelty Hill roads), and one would think that it must be written into the covenants that a grand piano be present in the front room.

    I suspect that one reason these pianos appear so often is due to the expense of moving them out! Old, untuned, off-brand grand pianos that probably need other repairs are liabilities, not assets. Google “abandoned pianos” and you’ll find plenty of reading, such as this website:

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  4. joe dirt

    RE: redmondjp @ 3

    Not a problem since many home inspectors play piano.

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  5. Suitably Skeptical

    What are non-mathematical proportions? Now that’s a house I want to tour….

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  6. Suitably Skeptical

    yeah, once you unbolt it and pry it from where it’s embedded into the floor

    RE: joe @ 1 -

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  7. softwarengineer

    Speaking of Oak Flooring

    Notice all the homes had that too, albeit the new fake oak floor linoleum looks almost the same with a small but big difference, especially newer construction past the 70s. Oak flooring leaks a contractor told me and if you get it wet for too long [spill something behind the couch, i.e.] it can warp and the repair gets costlty if its just glueboard base floor underneath. Moral of the story, if you have linoleum over your glueboard and you want oak flooring or rugs for that matter; don’t tear the waterproof linoleum out, put the rugs and wood flooring ontop of it. If you have an older home with floor boards, the warpiing and glueboard growth detroying the new wood flooring if left damp too long is greatly mitigated. Another cheaper fix before installing wood floors or rugs on glueboard baseboard is paint it with waterproof oil base paint before installing the new floor.

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  8. Kary L. Krismer

    RE: softwarengineer @ 7 – The water is coming up through the floor? Not a spill on top of the floor?

    That’s the advantage of Bamboo. Although it is soft, it is fairly waterproof.

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  9. Dan Achatz

    I actually took that top shot, and I assure you that there was a shot included the view of the lake from that window. It’s unfortunate that the MLS limits agents to only 15 photos for an estate size home.

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  10. David S

    RE: Dan Achatz @ 9 – You’ve some nice looking work!

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  11. Dan Achatz

    Thank you

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  12. robotslave

    Mathematical proportions be darned, tell me more about this home’s “wide stance.”

    I find that phrase terribly exciting.

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  13. redmondjp

    “I wish my brother George was here.”

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  14. Sotocapo

    When we sold our house in Kirkland we were already out of the country. We had a baby grand in the front room that belonged to my MIL. It was very heavy and required professional movers to get out, my MIL did not have anywhere else to store the piano and we ended up helping her sell it. In the meantime it was in the house while it was being shown. I can see that finding a home for an awkwardly shaped and heavy piece like a grand piano is something many homeowners struggle with when they move. My dh missed it though as he played it most days but now he has a much more portable Roland keyboard instead.

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  15. yukon dave

    Edward Bernays wrote a fantastic book called “Propaganda” in 1928 and explained how he controlled the minds of the heard, aka American people. He is noted for making smoking popular, created the American Breakfast of bacon and eggs and made having a piano a sign of success. He made a great deal of money not by advertising a product but raising the entire industry and getting a cut from all of the producers. Here is a bit of his thinking:

    ” If, for instance, I want to sell pianos, it is not sufficient to blanket the country with a direct appeal, such as:
    “YOU buy a Mozart piano now. It is cheap. The best artists use it. It will last for years.”
    The claims may all be true, but they are in direct conflict with the claims of other piano manufacturers, and in indirect competition with the claims of a radio or a motor car, each competing for the consumer’s dollar.
    What are the true reasons why the purchaser is planning to spend his money on a new car instead of on a new piano? Because he has decided that he wants the commodity called locomotion more than he wants the commodity called music? Not altogether. He buys a car, because it is at the moment the group custom to buy cars.
    The modern propagandist therefore sets to work to create circumstances which will modify that custom. He appeals perhaps to the home instinct which is fundamental. He will endeavor to develop public acceptance of the idea of a music room in the home. This he may do, for example, by organizing an exhibition of period music rooms designed by well known decorators who themselves exert an influence on the buying groups. He enhances the effectiveness and prestige of these rooms by putting in them rare and valuable tapestries. Then, in order to create dramatic interest in the exhibit, he stages an event or ceremony. To this ceremony key people, persons known to influence the buying habits of the public, such as a famous violinist, a popular artist, and a society leader, are invited. These key persons affect other groups, lifting the idea of the music room to a place in the public consciousness which it did not have before. The juxtaposition of these leaders, and the idea which they are dramatizing, are then projected to the wider public through various publicity channels. Meanwhile, influential architects have been persuaded to make the music room an integral architectural part of their plans with perhaps a specially charming niche in one corner for the piano. Less influential architects will as a matter of course imitate what is done by the men whom they consider masters of their profession. They in turn will implant the idea of the music room in the mind of the general public.
    The music room will be accepted because it has been made the thing. And the man or woman who has a music room, or has arranged a corner of the parlor as a musical corner, will naturally think of buying a piano. It will come to him as his own idea.
    Under the old salesmanship the manufacturer said to the prospective purchaser, “Please buy a piano.” The new salesmanship has reversed the process and caused the prospective purchaser to say to the manufacturer, “Please sell me a piano.”

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  16. redmondjp

    RE: yukon dave @ 15 – Yup. De Beers marketed diamonds in a similar fashion (fascinating reading about this on the web – how they got famous Hollywood actresses to wear diamonds in the movies, etc). And you can’t even play a tune on one!

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