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Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market.

14 responses to “Monday Open Thread (2012-12-17)”

  1. softwarengineer

    The After Christmas Sales from Over Stocked Glut

    The best time to shop in Seattle?

    The PI semms to think this way….

    http://www.seattlepi.com/business/personal-finance/article/Holiday-shoppers-may-see-big-discounts-soon-4119116.php

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  2. Pegasus

    RE: softwarengineer @ 1 – There is a study out there that shows that the median price of toys, when the distressed sales are all excluded or discombobulated, has stayed about the same for the past five years proving that houses, er, toys don’t go down in value. Better not wait, you could be priced out foreva. If only we had some inventory to fill the demand! Cabbage Patch dolls anyone?

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  3. blurtman

    Thank you for defending our freedom.

    Bryant saw a flash on the screen: the explosion. Parts of the building collapsed. The child had disappeared. Bryant had a sick feeling in his stomach.

    “Did we just kill a kid?” he asked the man sitting next to him.

    “Yeah, I guess that was a kid,” the pilot replied.

    “Was that a kid?” they wrote into a chat window on the monitor.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/pain-continues-after-war-for-american-drone-pilot-a-872726.html

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  4. David Losh

    RE: blurtman @ 3

    The problem with war is women, and children get killed. Whether it’s by mortar, random fire fight, napalm, or drone, women, and children get killed in war.

    The solution is to make a lasting peace which is where the United States has a stumbling block.

    There has been resistance to humanitarian aid going to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and now Syria. It seems to be OK to spend billions on weapons, soldiers, equipment, or drones, but to rebuild we need some financial partnering.

    If we were the good guys, we would be there to help. I understand throwing off the dictators, but in the vacuum, we seem more interested in the deals we make, for what we can get, rather than what is good for the people of that country.

    If you care about the kids then feed them, give them shelter, and be a buddy.

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  5. ChrisM

    RE: blurtman @ 3 – War is hell. That’s why we only go to war after Congress has debated & authorized it. The President just can’t go out declare war on anyone. We have rules of law in this country.

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  6. softwarengineer

    RE: David Losh @ 4

    I Want the Good Old Days Back

    When we had a “Cold War” with the Soviet Union and Red China….hades, we at least had an American manufacturing base then and decent wages with low unemployment.

    And “Cold War” mutual destruction kept us from pushing the button anyway….but alas, Nixon started that ping pong games with the Chinese….the rest is the unraveling of American economy replaced with an unpayable debt and unpayable wars now too.

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  7. Blurtman

    RE: ChrisM @ 5 – So it is said, especially by those who sit in their comfortable homes, oblivious to the violence. But can you provide a link describing the US Senate’s ratification of a declaration of war against Afghanistan?

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  8. Kary L. Krismer

    RE: Blurtman @ 7 – I think you missed a heavy dose of sarcasm in that post. I believe the last time there was a declaration of war was after Pearl Harbor. Congress has basically ratified other actions . . ..

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  9. wreckingbull

    RE: David Losh @ 4 – I’d say it is ALSO a problem than men get killed, most of whom had no choice in signing up. Let’s not forget that, David.

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  10. Blurtman

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 8 – Probably right. If so, apologies to ChrisM.

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  11. ricklind

    By blurtman @ 3:

    Thank you for defending our freedom.

    Bryant saw a flash on the screen: the explosion. Parts of the building collapsed. The child had disappeared. Bryant had a sick feeling in his stomach.

    “Did we just kill a kid?” he asked the man sitting next to him.

    “Yeah, I guess that was a kid,” the pilot replied.

    “Was that a kid?” they wrote into a chat window on the monitor.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/pain-continues-after-war-for-american-drone-pilot-a-872726.html

    When I read your post I thought of the shooting in Conn. and did a google search on Adam Lanza, the shooter, and videogames.
    Seems he had a “hypnotic obsession” (not my phrase) with violent videogames. The dude dressed up in a demon of darkness spec ops get-up and went for the kids, just like shooting zombies in a videogame.
    We have become very good at teaching how to kill from a distance, literally and emotionally.
    I think (hope) the difference is that the guys in the link felt remorse when they realized they made a mistake.
    Both are very sad.

    Fel Temp Reparatio?

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  12. ricklind

    Found while surfing on Matt Taibbi’s blog. Pegs and Blurty should like this. Ira will ask, “what’s new?”
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213

    Here we go again.

    Fel Temp…

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  13. Ira Sacharoff

    RE: ricklind @ 12
    Just outrageous. Aren’t we supposed to receive equal justice under the law? Maybe we are supposed to, but the reality seems to suggest that if you’re a top official with a major bank, you can pretty much commit any crime out there and not get charged with a crime.

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  14. Kary L. Krismer

    RE: Ira Sacharoff @ 13 – Guilt by association?

    I don’t like our drug laws at all, but I don’t think it’s possible to prosecute a teller in Mexico for violation of US laws. And I doubt you could ever prove that any executive in the United States knew what was going on in Mexico. There is the possibility of trying a corporation itself for a crime, as happened with Ford and the Pinto, but I don’t think the result would be much different, and at what cost?

    Finally, it’s not at all clear that the penalty didn’t exceed the profits the bank made from the transaction. The bank does not make a million dollars when it aids in laundering a million dollars.

    This should probably be a bigger issue in Mexico. Down there thousands of people are being murdered because of our drug laws, and this activity assisted those entities. Stated differently, this is not our fight as much as theirs. (Although I think the better solution would be for them to simply legalize drug activity and bring it mainstream to end the killing.)

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