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25 responses to “Poll: Which is more important in a kitchen?”

  1. enatailurker

    How is “open floor space” even a good thing? That just means lots of extra steps to get work done.

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  2. Kary L. Krismer

    By enatailurker @ 1:

    How is “open floor space” even a good thing? That just means lots of extra steps to get work done.

    Exactly. You can have a large kitchen that doesn’t work as well as a small well-designed kitchen, and that doesn’t even allow as many people to work in it.

    Might be good for parties though, since people do tend to congregate in the kitchen.

    As to the poll, I prefer cabinets with lots of large drawers rather than doors. Makes the same storage space much more usable.

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  3. Andrew

    Cabinet/storage space is important, but for anyone who actually likes to cook, counter space is working space, and that’s #1.

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  4. Eleua

    A wife.

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  5. Matthew

    ^ preferably one that can cook :)

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  6. enatailurker

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 2 – For parties, you want the outward-facing counter to have a good bar surface with plenty of room on the non-kitchen side of the bar. That way people can socialize “in the kitchen” without stepping foot in the work area.

    Completely agree with Kary about drawers vs. doors.

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  7. Beth Witt

    It seems like most people I talk to want either lots of counter space or cabinet space. I prefer cabinet space because if everything can be stored in a cabinet, drawer or pantry then your counter can be free from appliances making it feel bigger than it is.

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  8. ChrisM

    Wow, what a mess of a question.

    Are you looking for serious chefs? If so, the answer would probably be something like 3-sink stainless steel or maybe natural gas stove. I have no idea what amateurs would answer (and really, I’m not interested).

    Which would you rather have: oxygen, water, gravity force of something like 9 meters/second^2, or Planck constant of something like 6.63 E-34?

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  9. Erik

    RE: ChrisM @ 6
    What in the world are you talking about? You need to relax and just answer the dang question.

    Your choices are as follows:
    -lots of counter space
    -lots of cabinet space
    -nice appliances
    -plenty of open floor space
    -a good sink / faucet

    Counter space seems to be the obvious answer here.

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  10. ARDELL

    I would venture a guess that maybe “open floor space” is what we might in a listing call an “eat in kitchen” with a big space for a table and chairs? Most people would rather have a big area for a table and seating in the kitchen than have a formal dining room that is separated by a wall from the kitchen.

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  11. Azucar

    RE: ChrisM @ 6

    This is a website about the value of houses, so what people (people who buy houses… not just chefs, but the general population) value in the kitchens of houses is a relevant question.

    I miss the “down thumb” button!

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  12. Kary L. Krismer

    By ChrisM @ 6:

    Wow, what a mess of a question.

    Are you looking for serious chefs? If so, the answer would probably be something like 3-sink stainless steel or maybe natural gas stove. I have no idea what amateurs would answer (and really, I’m not interested).

    As others have noted, this is a site that deals with residential real estate. If it were a site that catered to gourmet cooks or professional chefs your comment would have more merit.

    That said, the poll is somewhat of a mess. Materials used are one of the biggest factors for a lot of buyers. Modern (or newer) cabinets and/or high quality cabinets are perhaps one of the biggest factors, because they can be the most expensive (or at least most difficult to change) items to replace, and also dominate the appearance of the kitchen. Then there’s the type of counter top (Formica, granite, etc.) and type of floor. Simply put, you could have two kitchens with identical layouts and appliances that are at the opposite ends of appeal for most buyers due to the cabinets, counter tops and flooring used, but these items are totally lacking from the poll.

    And while I have seen buyers go nuts over a stove or refrigerator, I don’t think I’ve ever had one go nuts over a kitchen faucet. Those are easily replaced.

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  13. Kary L. Krismer

    By ARDELL @ 8:

    Most people would rather have a big area for a table and seating in the kitchen than have a formal dining room that is separated by a wall from the kitchen.

    Apparently you don’t watch Renton Abbey. A “kitchen with eating space” and a dining room are both completely unnecessary when you can instead just eat on the couch in front of the TV. ;-)

    On the dining room issue, I wouldn’t venture a guess on the percentage of people who want a formal dining room. In modern houses over a certain price/size they just seem to appear! But your comment does remind me of that show from a couple of years ago–The Marriage Ref. One of their cases was a wife who wanted the dining room table set 365 days a year, even though they only used it once or twice a year.

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  14. wreckingbull

    A proper work triangle is by far the most important aspect of good kitchen design. I see many kitchens designed by people who don’t cook.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_work_triangle

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  15. Blurtman

    Granite countertops are the most important item in any kitchen, accentuated with a scented candle, a plastic wicker bowl of wax fruit, and a festive plate of microwave warmed Fred Meyer Truly Awesome (TM) chocolate chip cookies.

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  16. mmmarvel

    By Matthew @ 4:

    ^ preferably one that can cook :)

    One who loves you, is good looking and can cook :)

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  17. ARDELL

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 11

    No I don’t watch that show…but I have been that woman. :)

    Happy New Year, Kary!

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  18. Ira Sacharoff

    By wreckingbull @ 12:

    A proper work triangle is by far the most important aspect of good kitchen design. I see many kitchens designed by people who don’t cook.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_work_triangle

    Me too. All too often I see these gigantic stainless steel appliances with no adjacent countertops. And I can’t help myself. When I’m in one of these kitchens with clients, I can’t keep my mouth shut and blather on about how impractical it is. I’m good about everything else, I can’t tell people what they should like. But kitchens without a good work triangle get to me, and I don’t know how to stay quiet.

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  19. Ira Sacharoff

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 11
    We should totally do a show called ” Renton Abbey.”

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  20. Kary L. Krismer

    By Ira Sacharoff @ 17:

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 11
    We should totally do a show called ” Renton Abbey.”

    We’d be sued for copyright infringement!

    http://www.king5.com/video?id=217309831&sec=1486012

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  21. softwarengineer

    RE: Eleua @ 3

    Single Man Cave and Restaurant.com

    Who needs the kitchen operating causing greasy food from the kitchen tracking staining on the carpets [even having people in the house remove shoes Japanese style]….I don’t have to shop and pay like $5.80 for $15 worth of restaurant food…..yeah I gotta pay some sales tax and gratuity at the restaurants….but no need for a maid.

    I do cook one meal a week, so I don’t forget how….I’m a good cook.

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  22. Ira Sacharoff

    RE: Kary L. Krismer @ 18
    That was great. And here I was about to proclaim you a genius.

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  23. ARDELL

    RE: softwarengineer @ 19

    haha! You were better off before you fixed that place all up after your daughter left. Now you don’t want to dirty it. LOL! Happy New Year SWE!

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  24. Macro Investor

    Maybe the poll should have been how many people actually use a kitchen to cook? The majority of people I know cannot “cook” anything except sandwiches, TV dinners, pop corn and putting cereal in a bowl. Most of them spend a fortune updating their kitchens with the latest granite and fancy appliances… but only because they think this impresses guests.

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  25. softwarengineer

    RE: Macro Investor @ 24

    Yes, Especially Millenials That Lived With Baby Boomers That Spoiled Them

    My daughter tells me of her Millenial friends living in messy apartments/kitchens because mom and dad recently used to do all that for them….they never learned how…..and they are stuck holding the bag now. Without frozen microwave meals, they’re lost.

    Her best friend’s new place was so messy, it was hard to find a place to sit….LOL

    My daughter is changing her old wiley ways though….she’s cleaning her house today and getting his slippers and game controller with favorite beverage ready for him when he gets back from work…she’s totally changing now. Smart girl :-)

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