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><channel><title>Seattle BubbleFeatures &#0149; Seattle Bubble</title> <atom:link href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/category/features/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog</link> <description>local real estate news, statistics, and commentary without the sales spin.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:27:36 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>Cheapest Seattle Homes: March Edition</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/03/04/cheapest-seattle-homes-march-edition/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/03/04/cheapest-seattle-homes-march-edition/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:00:30 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheapest-homes]]></category><guid
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Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, hit the April 2009 post.
Please note: These posts should not be construed to be an [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<style>.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}</style><p>Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/" title="Cheapest Seattle Homes: April Edition">hit the April 2009 post</a>.</p><p><b>Please note</b>: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement or endorsement of any specific home for sale.  We are merely taking a brief snapshot of the market at a given time.  Also, just because a home makes it onto the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; list, that does not indicate that it is <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/27/strategies-for-finding-the-best-value-in-todays-market/" title="Strategies for Finding the Best Value in Today’s Market">a good value</a>.</p><p>Here are this month&#8217;s three cheapest single-family homes in the city limits of Seattle (according to <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/" title="Search Seattle Homes">Redfin</a>):</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/11020-Beacon-Ave-S-98178/home/178040">11020 Beacon Ave S</a></td><td>$124,777</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>760</td><td>4,480 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2246/WA/Seattle/Rainier-Valley">Rainier Valley</a></td><td>$164</td><td>Short Sale</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/14342-Wallingford-Ave-N-98133/home/103036">14342 Wallingford Ave N</a></td><td>$149,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>660</td><td>5,250 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1181/WA/Seattle/Haller-Lake">Haller Lake</a></td><td>$226</td><td>Short Sale</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/10025-32nd-Ave-SW-98146/home/155816">10025 32 Ave SW</a></td><td>$152,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>740</td><td>6,300 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/63/WA/Seattle/Arbor-Heights">Arbor Heights</a></td><td>$205</td><td>Short Sale</td></tr></table><p>I believe this is the first time we&#8217;ve done this exercise and all of the top three have been short sales.</p><p><b>Stats snapshot for Seattle Single-Family Homes Under $200,000</b><br
/> Total on market: 54<br
/> Average number of beds: 2.3<br
/> Average number of baths: 1.1<br
/> Average square footage: 1,027<br
/> Average days on market: 78</p><p>Although the three cheapest homes are more expensive than <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-december-edition/" title="Cheapest Seattle Homes: December Edition">our last update in December</a>, the number of homes available under $200,000 shot up by 60% and the average square footage rose 11%.</p><p>Here are the three cheapest homes in terms of dollars per square foot:</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9053-9th-Ave-SW-98106/home/475547">9053 9 Ave SW</a></td><td>$91</td><td>$254,900</td><td>7</td><td>2</td><td>2,790</td><td>4,780 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1246/WA/Seattle/Highland-Park">Highland Park</a></td><td>Bank Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/8131-49th-Ave-S-98118/home/174555">8131 49th Ave S</a></td><td>$98</td><td>$205,000</td><td>3</td><td>2</td><td>2,090</td><td>4,750 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/778/WA/Seattle/Dunlap">Dunlap</a></td><td>Short Sale</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9215-39th-Ave-S-98118/home/480297">9215 39th Ave S</a></td><td>$102</td><td>$249,950</td><td>4</td><td>2</td><td>2,450</td><td>4,000 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/27925/WA/Seattle/Beacon-Hill">Beacon Hill</a></td><td>Short Sale</td></tr></table><p>This home didn&#8217;t quite make either of our lists this month, but I just had to mention it&#8230;  Here&#8217;s an excerpt from the listing description for <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/736-S-Southern-St-98108/home/477508">736 S Southern St</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Nicely landscape and exterior is in great shape, tile and hardwood floring. Planty of parking</p></blockquote><p>And here&#8217;s a good shot that demonstrates that last feature they mentioned:</p><div
style="width:400px; margin: 0 auto;"><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/736-S-Southern-St-98108/home/477508"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/planty-of-parking.jpg" style="border:0;" /></a></div><p>That&#8217;s right, folks.  For just $200,000, you could park four (count &#8216;em, four) cars in tandem next to your very own Seattle home.</p><p>Here&#8217;s the last bonus:  The lowest dollars per square foot on a house priced above $500,000: <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/11310-3rd-Ave-NW-98177/home/25670451" title="11310 3rd Ave NW">11310 3rd Ave NW</a> at $157 $/sqft.  $599,950, 5 beds, 4 baths, 3,828 square feet.  &#8220;Dynamic custom built home.&#8221;  Decent looking view on the listing photos.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/03/04/cheapest-seattle-homes-march-edition/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>23</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Can You Really Climb the Equity Ladder?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/03/01/can-you-really-climb-the-equity-ladder/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/03/01/can-you-really-climb-the-equity-ladder/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:24:38 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[equity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[equity ladder]]></category> <category><![CDATA[feedback]]></category> <category><![CDATA[home equity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[open_question]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=9818</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m working on a post that explores the concept of the homebuying &#8220;equity ladder&#8221; (or &#8220;property ladder&#8220;), in which the lifetime buying plan of the typical American homebuyer is assumed to look like:
photo by Flickr user Atle BrunvollBuy a cheap starter home in your 20s.  Maybe a little 2-bed house or a condo conversion.
4-5 [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on a post that explores the concept of the homebuying &#8220;equity ladder&#8221; (or &#8220;<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_ladder" title="Wikipedia: Property ladder">property ladder</a>&#8220;), in which the lifetime buying plan of the typical American homebuyer is assumed to look like:</p><div
style="float: right; margin: 10px 0 10px 10px; border: 1px solid #000000; font-size: 85%; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mnemonic/20530112/" title="my view for the next week by Atle Brunvoll"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/equity-ladder.png" style="border:0;" /></a><br
/><a
href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mnemonic/20530112/" title="my view for the next week by Atle Brunvoll">photo by Flickr user Atle Brunvoll</a></div><ul><li>Buy a cheap starter home in your 20s.  Maybe a little 2-bed house or a condo conversion.</li><li>4-5 years later, sell and upgrade to a nice mid-range home, probably 3-4 beds with a back yard for the kids.</li><li>5-10 years later, sell and upgrade again to some sort of McMansion, basically the house you wanted all along.</li><li>20 or so years later, sell your McMansion and downsize to a hip urban condo, cashing out piles of equity to fund your retirement.</li></ul><p>I&#8217;d like to hear your thoughts on this subject.  What do the well-educated and streetwise readers of Seattle Bubble think of the concept of the equity ladder?  Does it make sense (both in the Seattle area specifically and in a more general sense)?  Is it the best way to play the home ownership game?</p><p>What say you?</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/03/01/can-you-really-climb-the-equity-ladder/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>104</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>How-To: Navigate and Understand Public Records</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/02/17/how-to-navigate-and-understand-public-records/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/02/17/how-to-navigate-and-understand-public-records/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:36:22 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[banks]]></category> <category><![CDATA[foreclosures]]></category> <category><![CDATA[how-to]]></category> <category><![CDATA[public records]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=9693</guid> <description><![CDATA[Yesterday a reader emailed me asking how to look up public foreclosure documents.  Since it&#8217;s been over a year since I covered the topic of researching public records, I thought this would be a good time to review the process.  In this post we&#8217;ll be discussing the process and providing links for King [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday a reader emailed me asking how to look up public foreclosure documents.  Since it&#8217;s been over a year since I covered the topic of <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/12/26/how-to-research-property-loan-records/" title="How To: Research Property &#038; Loan Records">researching public records</a>, I thought this would be a good time to review the process.  In this post we&#8217;ll be discussing the process and providing links for King County.  For other counties hit the <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/real-estate-resources/" title="Real Estate Resources">Real Estate Resources</a> page.</p><p>For the purposes of this post, let&#8217;s say you&#8217;ve found a home on Redfin, and as you&#8217;re looking at the listing photos, the obviously-vacant state of the home tips you off that this home just might be a bank-owned foreclosure.  As an example, we&#8217;ll use <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/11715-7th-Ave-NE-98125/home/106009" title="11715 7th Ave NE Seattle, WA 98125">11715 7th Ave NE</a>, listed last week at an asking price of $332,000.</p><p>First, let&#8217;s head over to the <a
href="http://www5.kingcounty.gov/parcelviewer/viewer/kingcounty/viewer.asp" title="King County Parcel Search">King County Parcel Search</a>, click &#8220;Search by Address,&#8221; and put in the address in the required format (i.e. &#8211; 11715 in the &#8220;House Number&#8221; box and 7th in the &#8220;Street Name&#8221; box).  That will pull up a map on the right side with the parcel outlined in purple, as well as a list of details and a series of links on the lower-left.</p><p>If you&#8217;re interested in how much the property last sold for (in a non-foreclosure), click the &#8220;Get Property Report&#8221; link to pull up the <a
href="http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=6413100232" title="Assessor information for parcel number 6413100232">assessor parcel information page</a>.  Look through the list of &#8220;Sales/Quit Claims/Transfers&#8221; for sales with an instrument type of &#8220;Statutory Warranty Deed,&#8221; which usually indicates a standard sale.  In this case, we see that the property sold for $210k in July 2001, and then sold for $400k in March 2006.</p><p>Grab the &#8220;Parcel Number&#8221; from the lower-left.  In this case, our parcel number is 6413100232.  Now, head over to <a
href="http://www.kingcounty.gov/business/Recorders/RecordsSearch.aspx" title="King County Recorder's Office">King County Records</a> and click the big &#8220;Records Search&#8221; box.  Accept the disclaimer, then click the big &#8220;Search&#8221; link next to the text &#8220;Official Public Records.&#8221;</p><p>In order to find all the relevant documents, we&#8217;ll put in some recent date range (like 01/01/2008 to 02/15/2010) and down in the &#8220;Tax Parcel&#8221; box put the parcel number in the from and to boxes.  Leave document type and everything else blank.</p><p>Here are a few of the possible document types that will be returned:</p><ul><li>&#8220;Warranty Deed&#8221; is usually filed with a normal sale transaction.</li><li>&#8220;Deed of Trust&#8221; is the document usually filed that describes a mortgage or refinance.  These are not available to be viewed online in King County but if you take the document # down to the records office in Seattle you can view it in person.</li><li>&#8220;Notice of Trustee Sale&#8221; is the document filed by the bank giving the mortgage-holder a 90-day notice that their home will be foreclosed.</li><li>&#8220;Trustee Deed&#8221; gets filed when a bank forecloses on a home at the public auction at the courthouse.</li><li>&#8220;Deed&#8221; can be a variety of types of deeds, including a &#8220;Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure,&#8221; which means the owner &#8220;handed the keys&#8221; to the bank without going through the full foreclosure process.</li></ul><p>For this particular property we get two results: a Notice of Trustee Sale on 07/23/2009, followed by a Trustee Deed on 11/03/2009.  Sure enough, this home was foreclosed by the bank in November.</p><p>If you click the icon in the &#8220;Image&#8221; column on the right for either entry, you can view a pdf file of the public records.  The Notice of Trustee Sale indicates that the borrower was $16k behind on their payments on a mortgage of $453k.  The Trustee Deed indicates that the bank (Aurora Loan Services) paid $392,476 at the public courthouse auction on 10/23/2009.</p><p>We definitely learned some interesting information about this particular home from the public records.  At their current asking price of $332,000, the bank here is already accepting a 15% loss on what they paid at the foreclosure auction, and a 27% loss on the total mortgage amount.  We also learned that the asking price represents roughly a 5% annual rate of appreciation from the 2001 sale, and a 17% discount from the early 2006 price.</p><p>Armed with the information that you dig out of the public records, you will hopefully be able to make better decisions about how to approach the possible purchase of a bank-owned home.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/02/17/how-to-navigate-and-understand-public-records/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>20</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Do Rising Interest Rates Lead to Falling Home Prices?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/02/09/do-rising-interest-rates-lead-to-falling-home-prices/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/02/09/do-rising-interest-rates-lead-to-falling-home-prices/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:00:33 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Interest Rates]]></category> <category><![CDATA[long-term]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=9576</guid> <description><![CDATA[Yesterday a reader asked:
I was wondering if you could write a post sometime on the relationship between interest rates and home prices (or direct me to a previous post if you&#8217;ve already done this). My husband is feeling pressured to buy a home within the next couple of months b/c he thinks interest rates will [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/02/08/housing-atm-we-have-a-winner/#comment-93880" title="Comment by Jessica">a reader asked</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I was wondering if you could write a post sometime on the relationship between interest rates and home prices (or direct me to a previous post if you&#8217;ve already done this). My husband is feeling pressured to buy a home within the next couple of months b/c he thinks interest rates will go up soon and we will have to spend more money for a house. I feel that an increase in interest rates will cause home prices to drop further. What is the historical relationship between interest rates and home prices? Have home prices ever declined before when interest rates go up? What data exist to inform your opinions on this? Also, does an increase in interest rates usually lead to an increase in inflation?</p></blockquote><p>First, here&#8217;s a post I wrote back in June on the subject of interest rates and home prices: <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-consequences-of-a-market-full-of-monthly-payment-buyers/" title="The Consequences of a Market Full of Monthly Payment Buyers">The Consequences of a Market Full of Monthly Payment Buyers</a>.  [Update: Here's another relevant one that I had forgotten: <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/16/interest-rates-vs-home-prices/" title="Interest Rates vs. Home Prices">Interest Rates vs. Home Prices</a>] I&#8217;d also like to point out another more recent post that argues that <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/15/its-a-great-time-to-rent/" title="It's a Great Time to Rent">It&#8217;s a Great Time to Rent</a>.</p><p>Also, please be aware that feeling &#8220;pressure&#8221; is never a good reason to buy a home. <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/08/22/suzanne-researched-this-part-2/" title="Suzanne Researched This: Part 2"><b>Never</b></a>.</p><p>Okay, let&#8217;s tackle the specific questions quoted above.  In order to attempt to explore this issue, we&#8217;ll look at King County home prices (inflation-adjusted using the CPI) and mortgage interest rates over the last 60 years.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KC-Home-Price_1950-2009-real.png" title="Interest Rates &#038; King County Median Home Price"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KC-Home-Price_1950-2009-real-600x435.png" style="border: 0;" title="Interest Rates &#038; King County Median Home Price - Click to enlarge" alt="Interest Rates &#038; King County Median Home Price" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>Prior to 2007, there were two extended periods of time during which inflation-adjusted King County home prices fell: 1969-1975 and 1979-1985 (each highlighted above in yellow).  Interestingly, mortgage interest rates were indeed rising going into both of those periods.</p><p>From 1965 to 1974, interest rates rose over five points.  Meanwhile, home prices dropped over 20% from their peak.  During a period of relatively stable (though definitely still high) interest rates between 1975 and 1979, home prices shot up.  Then, as interest rates began their steepest climb, shooting up nine points in four years, home prices fell again, dropping 20% off the peak.</p><p>It is interesting to note that the dramatic price declines that we are currently seeing is the first time that home prices have fallen for an extended period of time without a corresponding period of rising interest rates.</p><p>The national picture looks similar, although the 1969-1975 decline is much less pronounced, and there is an additional period of declining prices between 1990 and 1996, during which interest rates were declining.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/USA-Home-Price_1950-2009-real.png" title="National Home Prices &#038; Interest Rates"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/USA-Home-Price_1950-2009-real-600x435.png" style="border: 0;" title="National Home Prices &#038; Interest Rates - Click to enlarge" alt="National Home Prices &#038; Interest Rates" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p><em>(Note that the interest rate on the above chart does not exactly match the first chart, as the above chart is taken directly from the data provided by Robert Shiller on his <a
href="http://www.irrationalexuberance.com/">Irrational Exuberance</a> website.)</em></p><p>It was also asked &#8220;does an increase in interest rates usually lead to an increase in inflation?&#8221;  I believe that high interest rates and high inflation usually happen around the same time, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily accurate to say that the increased interest rates <em>lead to</em> increased inflation.  More likely they&#8217;re both symptoms of larger economic forces at play.</p><p>All that being said, it is important to be aware of a couple of things.  One, people have been expecting interest rates to rise for about a year, and yet they continue to hover around 5%.  Buying based on where you think interest rates are going to go is probably not a good plan.</p><p>Two, if you do end up buying in a high interest rate situation, keep in mind that you can always refinance if rates go down later.  However, if you end up buying in a high purchase price situation, then home prices go down later, you won&#8217;t have the luxury of refinancing into a lower principal balance.</p><p>Lastly, I&#8217;ll take this opportunity to repeat the advice I have given since launching this site about when it is best to buy a home.  If you find a house that you believe is priced fairly, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/06/simple-affordability-calculator/" title="Simple Affordability Calculator">that you can afford</a> using a conventional fixed-rate mortgage, that you will be happy living in for at least ten years, and you won&#8217;t be distraught if the value goes down, then go for it.</p><p>Frankly, who cares about interest rate or home price trends if it is important to you to buy a home and you can afford to buy a home you love?  Just don&#8217;t allow yourself to be fooled into believing that buying a home is a great investment, or that you have to buy now or risk being priced out forever.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/02/09/do-rising-interest-rates-lead-to-falling-home-prices/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>91</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Predictions: Looking Into the Crystal Ball for 2010</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/01/11/predictions-looking-into-the-crystal-ball-for-2010/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/01/11/predictions-looking-into-the-crystal-ball-for-2010/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Polls]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Crellin]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Gardner]]></category> <category><![CDATA[predictions]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Scott]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Tytler]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Wood]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=8813</guid> <description><![CDATA[It is time once again for our annual predictions post, where your host goes on record with crazy shots in the dark about what might happen in the Seattle real estate market over the next calendar year.  For those of you following along with this game at home, here are the predictions of record [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time once again for our annual predictions post, where your host goes on record with crazy shots in the dark about what might happen in the Seattle real estate market over the next calendar year.  For those of you following along with this game at home, here are the predictions of record for the past three years: <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/01/11/prices-unleavened-in-2007/" title="Prices Unleavened in 2007?">2007</a>, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/01/17/predictions-2007-revisited-2008-prognosticated/" title="Predictions: 2007 Revisited, 2008 Prognosticated">2008</a>, &amp; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/01/09/predictions-2008-in-the-bag-2009-on-the-horizon/" title="Predictions: 2008 in the Bag, 2009 on the Horizon">2009</a>.</p><p>First up, let&#8217;s see how everyone from 2009&#8217;s post did.</p><p><strong><u>The Contenders</u>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Matthew Gardner</strong>, local land-use economist</li><li><strong>Steve Tytler</strong>, Everett Herald Real Estate Columnist / owner, Best Mortgage</li><li><strong>J. Lennox Scott</strong>, Chairman and CEO of John L. Scott Real Estate</li><li><strong>Tim Ellis</strong>, editor-in-chief, Seattle Bubble</li></ul><table
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 95%; text-align: center" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="400"><tr
style="font-weight: bold" cellpadding="0"><td>&nbsp;</td><td>Gardner</td><td>Tytler</td><td>Scott</td><td>Ellis</td><td>King Co. SFH</td></tr><tr><td
style="text-align: right;font-weight: bold;">Prices:&nbsp;</td><td>&#8220;essentially flat&#8221;</td><td>-5% to 10%</td><td>&#8220;stabilized&#8221;</td><td>&#8220;about -10%&#8221;</td><td><strong>-5.8%</strong></td></tr></table><p>This year&#8217;s winner for the closest prediction is Steve Tytler, whose guesses have consistently been the closest of anyone actually in the industry.  My price guess looks like it will probably end up being the closest if you use Seattle&#8217;s Case-Shiller data (<a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/29/case-shiller-seattles-summer-of-stalled-prices-continues/" title="Case-Shiller: Seattle’s Summer of Stalled Prices Stretches On">October was down 12.4%</a>), but to be fair and consistent, we&#8217;re sticking with the NWMLS median, so Steve gets the prize this year.</p><p>Here is the text of my predictions on inventory, sales, and prices last year:</p><blockquote><p>My guess is that inventory in 2009 will be flat to slightly down from 2008 for most of the year. I am betting that the double-digit YOY drops in sales will not last beyond the first or second quarter, but will eventually flatten out and maybe even show YOY gains.<br
/> &#8230;<br
/> As far as a specific prediction on prices, my guess is about another 10 percent drop in 2009, which would put December 2009’s median at $363,150.</p></blockquote><p>Inventory did indeed end the year down, and sales showed YOY gains.  Overall, my biggest shortcoming was in failing to foresee the February implementation of the $8,000 tax credit, which clearly provided a short-term boost to the market.</p><p><strong><u>The Real Estate Non-Market</u></strong><br
/> This brings me to my giant caveat for 2010.  The excellent real estate analyst Rich Toscano wrote a great piece in November about the increasing difficulty of <a
href="http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/toscano/article_6c6cbc80-4bcc-5edb-8f8e-2a4e2bc1bb1b.html" title="Forecasting the Real Estate Non-Market">Forecasting the Real Estate Non-Market</a> that I feel is quite relevant.</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;the real estate &#8220;market&#8221; is now as much a political entity as it is an economic entity.  The government has gone to amazing levels of effort to prop up the housing market.  &#8230;huge amounts of money are being borrowed or simply created out of thin air and shunted directly into the housing market through multiple channels. Even as demand is thus boosted, supply is being constrained by foreclosure moratoria and opaque and arbitrary financial industry bailouts.</p><p>The net effect is that government intervention is exerting an enormous influence on the housing market. So one can&#8217;t just look at fundamentals as in the good old days. Instead, one is forced to practice a sort of real estate Kremlinology in an attempt to figure out how fiscal and monetary policy will affect, or cease to affect, the market.</p></blockquote><p><strong><u>Looking Back at Where We Have Been</u></strong><br
/> Of course, it&#8217;s still fun to make wild guesses, even if we don&#8217;t know what the government will pull out of their future taxpayer-funded hat next.  But before we get to this year&#8217;s predictions, I thought it might be informative to drop a few charts.  The following three charts go back through 1993, which is as far back as I have been able to locate consistent NWMLS data on home prices.</p><p>First up is King County&#8217;s median SFH sale price, adjusted for inflation in November 2009 (the latest CPI data) dollars.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/King-Co-Median-Price-real_1993-2009.png" title="King Co. Median SFH Price (inflation-adjusted to November 2009 dollars)"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/King-Co-Median-Price-real_1993-2009-600x436.png" title="King Co. Median SFH Price (inflation-adjusted to November 2009 dollars) - Click to enlarge" alt="King Co. Median SFH Price (inflation-adjusted to November 2009 dollars)" width="600" height="436"></a></p><p>In November 2009 dollars, the July 2007 peak was just barely shy of $500,000, peaking at $499,545.  December 2009 came in 24% off that peak.  Next, here is a chart of home prices and King County median household incomes, indexed to January 1993.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/King-Co-Price-Incomes-Index_1993-2009.png" title="King Co. Median SFH Price &#038; Median Household Income"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/King-Co-Price-Incomes-Index_1993-2009-600x436.png" title="King Co. Median SFH Price &#038; Median Household Income - Click to enlarge" alt="King Co. Median SFH Price &#038; Median Household Income" width="600" height="436"></a></p><p>Something still seems a bit, shall we say, <em>off</em> about that.  Lastly, here is King County&#8217;s affordability index:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/King-Co-Affordability-Index_1993-2009.png" title="King Co. Affordability Index"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/King-Co-Affordability-Index_1993-2009-600x436.png" title="King Co. Affordability Index - Click to enlarge" alt="King Co. Affordability Index" width="600" height="436"></a></p><p>Definitely an improvement there, but a lot of what is keeping that above 90 is the crazy low interest rates, being held there thanks to the government.  See above.</p><p><strong><u>The Crystal Ball Gets Murky</u></strong><br
/> So, let&#8217;s see what predictions we can find from the usual suspects for 2010.</p><p>Oddly enough, it seems that fewer and fewer local real estate professionals are willing to step out on a limb with predictions.  The only article I was able to find that referenced 2010 and quoted Gardner, Crellin, and Scott was Eric Pryne&#8217;s piece in the Times: <a
href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/realestate/2010587046_residentialrewrap27.html" title="Tax credit fuels home-sales bounce, but will it be just a blip?">Tax credit fuels home-sales bounce, but will it be just a blip?</a>.</p><p>Here&#8217;s all those three had to say in that article:</p><blockquote><p>In February, Congress approved an $8,000 tax credit for first-time homebuyers in hopes of kick-starting moribund home sales.</p><p>&#8220;It worked,&#8221; Lennox Scott, chairman and CEO of John L. Scott Real Estate, said at a recent industry forum. &#8220;That&#8217;s what completely activated the market.&#8221;<br
/> &#8230;<br
/> After plummeting 20 percent in 18 months from its summer 2007 peak, the median price of a single-family home sold in King County slipped only slightly more in 2009.<br
/> &#8230;<br
/> And next year? &#8220;They&#8217;re not going to go up,&#8221; Jill Wood, Windermere Real Estate president, said of home prices. &#8220;They&#8217;ve probably leveled off for now.&#8221;</p><p>Even that assessment may be optimistic, others say. Glenn Crellin, director of the Washington Center for Real Estate Research at Washington State University, said it&#8217;s more likely that prices will continue to decline through midyear.<br
/> &#8230;<br
/> The question now is, how many prospective buyers remain? &#8220;Were we stealing future demand?&#8221; Seattle land-use economist Matthew Gardner asked at a recent forum.</p></blockquote><p>So we&#8217;ve got no prediction from Scott, an ambiguous forecast of a decline from Crellin, and a question from Gardner that he likely already knows the answer to.  We did also get a bonus forecast from Jill Wood of prices having &#8220;leveled off.&#8221;</p><p>The only commentator I&#8217;ve found still willing to join me in predictions is <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/05/23/a-conversation-with-steve-tytler/" title="A Conversation with Steve Tytler">perennial Seattle Bubble favorite</a> Steve Tytler.  Here&#8217;s his piece: <a
href="http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20091108/BIZ/711089953/1005" title="Forecast for 2010 housing market: slow decline">Forecast for 2010 housing market: slow decline</a></p><blockquote><p>I think average home prices will continue to drop a little, but the pace of depreciation will continue to slow. Overall, average home prices may fall about 5 percent, but as always the rate of depreciation will vary from neighborhood to neighborhood. In general, highly desirable neighborhoods, especially those close to major job centers, will do better than outlying areas.</p><p>Will we hit the housing market bottom in 2010? Maybe. You can only know for sure that a market has bottomed in retrospect when you can look back at housing prices on a graph and see the point where they stopped going down and started going up and stayed up. We may very well hit that point some time next year, probably late spring or summer.</p></blockquote><p>Kudos to Steve for still being willing to stick his neck out there.</p><p><strong><u>The Tim on 2010</u></strong><br
/> So finally we get to my predictions for the coming year.  Keeping in mind that unknown future government meddling will probably throw off any guesses I make today, my outlook for 2010 is pretty similar to what I saw for 2009.  I don&#8217;t think Seattle home prices have bottomed yet.  If allowed to adjust to market fundamentals, they&#8217;ve probably got at least another 10% to fall, maybe a bit more.  I would expect most of that to come this year.</p><p>Barring any additional free money giveaways, sales will probably show YOY gains during the first part of the year, and be more or less flat for the second half.  I suspect that interest rates will rise, possibly up into the sixes, which when combined with the borrowed sales thanks to the tax credit, will end up supressing sales as the year winds down.  Inventory will probably be flat to down slightly.</p><p>There you have it, The Tim on record for 2010.  Now lets&#8217; hear your predictions in the comments, as well as in this poll:<br
/> Note: There is a poll embedded within this post, please visit the site to participate in this post's poll.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2010/01/11/predictions-looking-into-the-crystal-ball-for-2010/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>167</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Still Searching for the Home Price Bottom Around Seattle</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/16/still-searching-for-the-home-price-bottom-around-seattle/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/16/still-searching-for-the-home-price-bottom-around-seattle/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:00:36 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Statistics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[bottom-calling]]></category> <category><![CDATA[predictions]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=8310</guid> <description><![CDATA[A few people have asked for another checkup on our bottom-calling series from February, in which we explored six different methods of forecasting the bottom for Seattle-area home prices.
Not much has changed since our most recent checkup in July, when prices as measured by the Case-Shiller Index were 22.5% off the peak (May data), and [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few people have asked for another checkup on our <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/02/20/bottom-calling-so-wheres-the-bottom/" title="Bottom-Calling: So Where's the Bottom?">bottom-calling series from February</a>, in which we explored six different methods of forecasting the bottom for Seattle-area home prices.</p><p>Not much has changed since <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/31/bottom-calling-checkup-no-bottom-in-sight-yet/" title="Bottom-Calling Checkup: No Bottom In Sight Yet">our most recent checkup in July</a>, when prices as measured by the Case-Shiller Index were 22.5% off the peak (May data), and we had passed two of our six potential bottoms.</p><p>As of the <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/24/case-shiller-seattle-home-prices-hit-new-post-bubble-low/" title="Case-Shiller: Seattle Home Prices Hit New Post-Bubble Low">latest Case-Shiller data (September)</a>, home prices are still hitting new lows, although they have been fairly flat for the summer at 22.5% off the peak.  Our next potential bottom is this month with the <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/02/17/bottom-calling-dollars-per-square-foot-linear-forecast/" title="Dollars per Square Foot Linear Forecast">Dollars per Square Foot Linear Forecast</a>, but we obviously won&#8217;t know if this month is the bottom until at least a few months from now.</p><p>In the mean time, it definitely looks like we can safely say that we did not hit the bottom this summer or fall.  Here&#8217;s King County&#8217;s median $/sqft, <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/county/118/WA/King-County" title="Redfin: King County Market Trends">according to Redfin</a>:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-King_2009-12.png" title="Median Price per Square Foot: King County"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-King_2009-12-600x404.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Median Price per Square Foot: King County - Click to enlarge" alt="Median Price per Square Foot: King County" width="600" height="404"></a></p><p>There&#8217;s definitely a nice little summer boost there, with the median sold $/sqft coming up off the March-May low of $199/sqft up to a mini-peak of $206/sqft in September.  However, as of December 14th, King County home prices have already hit a new low, dropping to $198/sqft.</p><p>The pattern in Seattle proper looks similar, though prices have not yet dropped to a new low <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/city/16163/WA/Seattle" title="Redfin: Seattle Market Trends">according to Redfin&#8217;s data</a>.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-Seattle_2009-12.png" title="Median Price per Square Foot: Seattle"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-Seattle_2009-12-600x404.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Median Price per Square Foot: Seattle - Click to enlarge" alt="Median Price per Square Foot: Seattle" width="600" height="404"></a></p><p>April low: $271/sqft.  August mini-peak: $283/sqft.  Latest: $278/sqft.</p><p><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/county/2/WA/Snohomish-County" title="Redfin: Snohomish County Market Trends">Snohomish County</a> didn&#8217;t get much of a summer boost at all:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-Snohomish_2009-12.png" title="Median Price per Square Foot: Snohomish County"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-Snohomish_2009-12-600x404.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Median Price per Square Foot: Snohomish County - Click to enlarge" alt="Median Price per Square Foot: Snohomish County" width="600" height="404"></a></p><p>Spring: $163/sqft.  Summer: $165/sqft.  Latest: $158/sqft.</p><p><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/county/3096/WA/Pierce-County" title="Redfin: Pierce County Market Trends">Pierce County</a> got a boost, and has fallen almost all the way back down.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-Pierce_2009-12.png" title="Median Price per Square Foot: Pierce County"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Med-SqFt-Pierce_2009-12-600x404.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Median Price per Square Foot: Pierce County - Click to enlarge" alt="Median Price per Square Foot: Pierce County" width="600" height="404"></a></p><p>Spring: $128/sqft.  Summer: $133/sqft.  Latest: $129/sqft.</p><p>Here&#8217;s one more look at the dollars per square foot metric, <a
href="http://www.zillow.com/local-info/WA-King-County-home-value/r_207/#metric=mt%3D36%26dt%3D2%26tp%3D5%26rt%3D6%26r%3D207%2C16037" title="Zillow Market Trends">courtesy of Zillow</a>, who apparently derives their data from a slightly different source than Redfin.</p><div
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href="http://www.zillow.com/local-info/WA-King-County-home-value/r_207/#metric=mt%3D36%26dt%3D2%26tp%3D5%26rt%3D6%26r%3D207%2C16037" style="color:#36B;font-size:11px;line-height:13px;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;">More King Home Values</a></div></div><p>Zillow puts the April low at $205/sqft, a peak in July at $211/sqft, and the latest reading (October) at $206/sqft.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/16/still-searching-for-the-home-price-bottom-around-seattle/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>42</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Quantifying Cumulative Government Kickbacks for Homebuyers</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/14/quantifying-cumulative-government-kickbacks-for-homebuyers/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/14/quantifying-cumulative-government-kickbacks-for-homebuyers/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:45:37 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buy-vs-rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[government_meddling]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tax credit]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=8290</guid> <description><![CDATA[I thought it might be useful to visualize just how much the government is involved in the housing market.  Let&#8217;s look at how much a homebuyer receives via capital gains tax excemption for home sales, mortgage interest deduction, deductability of points paid on mortgage, and first-time buyers tax credit over 5 years, 15 years, [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it might be useful to visualize just how much the government is involved in the housing market.  Let&#8217;s look at how much a homebuyer receives via capital gains tax excemption for home sales, mortgage interest deduction, deductability of points paid on mortgage, and first-time buyers tax credit over 5 years, 15 years, and 30 years.</p><p>Here are the underlying assumptions I&#8217;ll be working from:  $400,000 house, $1,600 / mo rent.  3% YOY home value appreciation, rent increases 2% YOY.  Buyers are a married couple with good credit in 25% tax bracket.  Home maintenance costs average 1% of purchase price per year.  Utilities are equal between rented house and purchased house.  No HOA dues.  3.5% down, 1 point paid on FHA 30-year fixed financing for an APR of 5.489%.</p><p><b>Scenario 1:</b> Buy a house, stay in it for the duration of the mortgage, paying it off in 30 years.</p><p><b>Scenario 2:</b> Buy a house, in 5 years, sell house and move to roughly equivalent house, putting down whatever extra money remains from the sale.  Repeat every 5 years for 30 years.</p><p><b>Scenario 3:</b> (baseline comparison) Rent for 30 years.</p><p>Here&#8217;s what the outlays and kickbacks look like for each scenario after 5 years (that&#8217;s one sale by the 5-year buyer):</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Gov-Kickback-Year-05.png" title="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Gov-Kickback-Year-05-600x410.png" title="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers - Click to enlarge" alt="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers" width="600" height="410"></a></p><p>Both the 30-year buyer (scenario 1) and the 5-year serial buyer (scenario 2) received the $8,000 tax credit and saved $17,997 in income taxes.  The 5-year serial buyer saved an additional $4,081 in capital gains tax exemption.</p><p>Here&#8217;s what it looks like after 15 years (3 sales by the 5-year buyer):</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Gov-Kickback-Year-15.png" title="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Gov-Kickback-Year-15-600x410.png" title="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers - Click to enlarge" alt="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers" width="600" height="410"></a></p><p>Since the 5-year serial buyer reset their mortgage interest amortization at 30 years three times, they have now saved $57,015 in income taxes vs. the 30-year buyer&#8217;s $23,799 savings.  The 5-year serial buyer has also saved $12,878 with capital gains tax exemptions on three sales.</p><p>It gets even more lopsided after 30 years:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Gov-Kickback-Year-30.png" title="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Gov-Kickback-Year-30-600x410.png" title="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers - Click to enlarge" alt="Government Kickbacks for Home Buyers" width="600" height="410"></a></p><p>The 5-year serial buyer has saved over three times as much as the 30-year buyer.  Granted, they paid an extra $171k in real estate fees and excise taxes to save $110k, but the government-sponsored &#8220;savings&#8221; provided an immediate gratification.</p><p>These numbers are obviously just rough estimates, and don&#8217;t take every single variable into account.  The purpose is just to point out the approximate magnitude of the current government interventions on the financial bottom line for individuals in the housing market.</p><p>With the 30-year buyer in the above scenario receiving roughly $1,700 a year in tax incentives and the 5-year buyer getting $5,300 a year, there is obviously a strong government incentive to not only buy a house, but to become a serial purchaser, swapping houses every few years to maximize the realized &#8220;benefits&#8221; offered by good old Uncle Sam.</p><p>In my opinion, it&#8217;s no wonder the housing market has gotten so screwed up when the move most encouraged by the existing government incentive structure is to buy the most expensive house, finance as much as possible, and move to a new, more expensive house as often as possible, basically remaining in a state of permanent home indebtedness.</p><p><em>Thanks to <a
href="http://www.mortgageporter.com/" title="The Mortgage Porter">Rhonda Porter</a> for assistance in calculating the costs and rates for FHA financing used in this post.</em></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/14/quantifying-cumulative-government-kickbacks-for-homebuyers/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>37</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Cheapest Seattle Homes: December Edition</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-december-edition/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-december-edition/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheapest-homes]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=8151</guid> <description><![CDATA[.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}
Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, hit the April post.
Please note: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<style>.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}</style><p>Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/" title="Cheapest Seattle Homes: April Edition">hit the April post</a>.</p><p><b>Please note</b>: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement or endorsement of any specific home for sale.  We are merely taking a brief snapshot of the market at a given time.  Also, just because a home makes it onto the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; list, that does not indicate that it is <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/27/strategies-for-finding-the-best-value-in-todays-market/" title="Strategies for Finding the Best Value in Today’s Market">a good value</a>.</p><p>Here are this month&#8217;s three cheapest single-family homes in the city limits of Seattle (according to <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/" title="Search Seattle Homes">Redfin</a>):</p><table
class="CNNTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr
class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/8523-Dallas-Ave-S-98108/home/477350">8523 Dallas Ave S</a></td><td>$108,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>900</td><td>3,480 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2558/WA/Seattle/South-Park">South Park</a></td><td>$134</td><td>Bank-Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/11026-Parkview-Ave-S-98178/home/197536">11026 Park View Ave S</a></td><td>$130,000</td><td>3</td><td>1</td><td>980</td><td>8,060 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2246/WA/Seattle/Rainier-Valley">Rainier Valley</a></td><td>$133</td><td>Short Sale</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/11403-71st-Pl-S-98178/home/176575">11403 71 Pl S</a></td><td>$155,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>820</td><td>5,640 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2246/WA/Seattle/Rainier-Valley">Rainier Valley</a></td><td>$189</td><td>Short Sale</td></tr></table><p>Here&#8217;s the current status of <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/04/cheapest-seattle-homes-september-edition/" title="Cheapest Seattle Homes: September Edition">September&#8217;s top 3</a>:</p><ol><li><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/8523-Dallas-Ave-S-98108/home/477350">8523 Dallas Ave S</a>: Still on market @ $108k</li><li><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9444-15th-Ave-SW-98106/home/2096591">9444 15th Ave SW</a>: Sale pending</li><li><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/526-S-Concord-St-98108/home/21708684/nwmls-29107469">526 S Concord St</a>: Delisted</li></ol><p><b>Stats snapshot for Seattle Single-Family Homes Under $200,000</b><br
/> Total on market: 34<br
/> Average number of beds: 2.2<br
/> Average number of baths: 1.2<br
/> Average square footage: 928<br
/> Average days on market: 117</p><p>Here are the three cheapest homes in terms of dollars per square foot:</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/4706-S-Orcas-St-98118/home/492919">4706 S Orcas St</a></td><td>$86</td><td>$225,000</td><td>4</td><td>1</td><td>2,620</td><td>3,645 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2246/WA/Seattle/Rainier-Valley">Rainier Valley</a></td><td>-</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9227-8th-Ave-S-98108/home/477389">9227 8th Ave S</a></td><td>$87</td><td>$159,950</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>1,840</td><td>5,400 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2558/WA/Seattle/South-Park">South Park</a></td><td>Short Sale</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/11411-60th-Ave-S-98178/home/195476">11411 60th Ave S</a></td><td>$96</td><td>$284,900</td><td>4</td><td>2.75</td><td>2,960</td><td>9,428 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/city/21634/WA/Bryn-Mawr-Skyway">Bryn Mawr-Skyway</a></td><td>Bank Owned</td></tr></table><p>Three of the six homes on our two lists are in Rainier Valley, and two are in South Park.  Looks like you should know what neighborhoods to target for the cheapest homes&#8230;</p><p>Here&#8217;s the last bonus:  The lowest dollars per square foot on a house priced above $500,000: <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/322-23rd-Ave-E-98112/home/147626" title="322 23rd Ave E">322 23rd Ave E</a> at $134 $/sqft.  $549,000, 6 beds, 3 baths, 4,100 square feet.  &#8220;Remodeled 1901 Farmhouse.&#8221;  On the market for just under a month.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/12/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-december-edition/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>11</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Strategies for Finding the Best Value in Today&#8217;s Market</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/27/strategies-for-finding-the-best-value-in-todays-market/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/27/strategies-for-finding-the-best-value-in-todays-market/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:53:27 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[directed_thread]]></category> <category><![CDATA[overvalued]]></category> <category><![CDATA[undervalued]]></category> <category><![CDATA[value]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=8102</guid> <description><![CDATA[Last week we asked the question: How do you find properties that are the best value in today’s market?  Following are the highlights of that discussion.
MEDIC focuses on tax assessments and prior sales, using a combination of county records websites (directory here) and Redfin.  For MEDIC, &#8220;a good price&#8230; is at least 40-50% [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/" title="Directed Thread: How do you find the best value?">we asked the question</a>: <b>How do you find properties that are the best value in today’s market?</b> Following are the highlights of that discussion.</p><p><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/#comment-87411" title="Comment by MEDIC">MEDIC focuses on tax assessments and prior sales</a>, using a combination of county records websites (<a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/real-estate-resources/" title="Real Estate Resources">directory here</a>) and Redfin.  For MEDIC, &#8220;a good price&#8230; is at least 40-50% off peak bubble prices.&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/#comment-87414" title="Comment by Kary L. Krismer">Kary L. Krismer recommends</a> seeking value by &#8220;looking at as wide of an area as possible.&#8221;  He also suggests that you &#8220;focus on the seller,&#8221; and &#8220;try to predict which ones are more likely [to be] more desperate/flexible than others.&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/#comment-87421" title="Comment by DrShort">DrShort presents a neatly ordered list</a>, which includes a lot of great advice like looking at &#8220;quality homes that aren’t perfect&#8221; and &#8220;look at a lot of houses and follow how they do on the market&#8221; to train yourself to be able to spot value.</p><p><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/#comment-87424" title="Comment by Aaron">Aaron thinks it was a trick question</a>, saying that you should be patient and &#8220;shop for the home you want to live in for 5+ years in a neighborhood you love at the price you can afford.&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/#comment-87443" title="Comment by Meadows">Meadows reiterates the need for patience</a>, suggesting a strategy of picking a neighborhood and going &#8220;door to door w/a calling card and ask to be called if the owner hears of anything in the general area.&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/#comment-87490" title="Comment by Andtech">Andtech breaks the ice as a first-time poster</a> with a great 1-2-3 strategy: Identify the area, determine your ideal home characteristics, and measure the market demand.</p><p>Personally, I think this inaugural &#8220;directed thread&#8221; was a success.  Thanks to all of you who participated and added to the discussion.  I think we got a lot of useful insights.  This is definitely an exercise I would like to do again.  If you have any suggestions for the next &#8220;directed thread&#8221; topic, feel free to drop them in the comments here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/27/strategies-for-finding-the-best-value-in-todays-market/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>18</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Directed Thread: How do you find the best value?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:51:06 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[directed_thread]]></category> <category><![CDATA[value]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7987</guid> <description><![CDATA[Well, today&#8217;s the last day of my trip to New York City, and since I didn&#8217;t quite plan far enough ahead to have a substantive post today, I thought we could try something new.
It&#8217;s called a &#8220;directed thread,&#8221; and it goes like this:I&#8217;ll pose a question for discussion.
Everyone hashes it out in the comments.
Later this [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, today&#8217;s the last day of my trip to New York City, and since I didn&#8217;t quite plan far enough ahead to have a substantive post today, I thought we could try something new.</p><p>It&#8217;s called a &#8220;directed thread,&#8221; and it goes like this:<ul><li>I&#8217;ll pose a question for discussion.</li><li>Everyone hashes it out in the comments.</li><li>Later this week I&#8217;ll parse the discussion.</li><li>The most useful or interesting posts will be mixed into a post of their own sometime next week, hopefully harnessing the collective knowledge of the community for the betterment of the whole.</li></ul><p>So, here&#8217;s today&#8217;s discussion topic: <strong>How do you find properties that are the best value in today&#8217;s market?</strong></p><p>Do you mostly look at specific neighborhoods?  Are there certain property characteristics that often signal good value?  What tools do you use, etc&#8230;  Anything and everything related to finding the best value is fair game.  Let&#8217;s hear it.</p><p>As something of a consolation prize for the lack of a more meaty post (and because I just think it&#8217;s cool and I want to share it), here&#8217;s a picture I shot last night of Times Square from the Empire State Building.  See you all tomorrow.</p><div
style="width: 642px; margin: 0 auto 15px;"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Times-Square-at-Night.jpg" style="border:1px solid #000000;" /></div> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/16/directed-thread-how-do-you-find-the-best-value/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>60</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Seattle Bubble Commenters: Thank You!</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/05/seattle-bubble-commenters-thank-you/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/05/seattle-bubble-commenters-thank-you/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:00:38 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[comments]]></category> <category><![CDATA[forum]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7818</guid> <description><![CDATA[Seattle Bubble hit a geeky milestone yesterday, with the posting of its 0&#215;10000th comment!  That&#8217;s hexadecimal&#8212;base 16&#8212;65,536 for you non-geeks out there.  The 0&#215;10000th comment was posted by Flying Ape.
In commemoration of this geeky occasion, here are a few statistics relating to the comments on Seattle Bubble.
As of the 0&#215;10000th comment, 65,536 comments [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seattle Bubble hit a geeky milestone yesterday, with the posting of its 0&#215;10000th comment!  That&#8217;s hexadecimal&mdash;base 16&mdash;65,536 for you non-geeks out there.  The 0&#215;10000th comment was <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/04/job-loss-crash-comparison-update-stimulus-rant/#comment-86445">posted by Flying Ape</a>.</p><p>In commemoration of this geeky occasion, here are a few statistics relating to the comments on Seattle Bubble.</p><p>As of the 0&#215;10000th comment, 65,536 comments had been posted across a total of 1,852 posts, for an average of 35 comments per post.  Seattle Bubble was <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2005/08/08/welcome-to-seattle-bubble/" title="Welcome to Seattle Bubble">launched on August 5, 2005</a>, so that&#8217;s an average of <a
href="http://is.gd/4NuUX" title="Don't click this.">42</a> comments per day.</p><p>Stupid spam robots have attempted (and failed) to post 89,069 (0&#215;15BED) spam comments, outnumbering comments by real people 1.4 to 1.  And that&#8217;s just since Seattle Bubble&#8217;s move to its own domain <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/05/20/seattle-bubble-moves-to-wordpress/" title="Seattle Bubble Moves to WordPress">in May 2007</a>, meaning that the spambots (failed to) post an average of <b>99</b> comments per day.  Yikes!</p><p><strong>Top 10 most-commented posts:</strong></p><ol><li>2008.06 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/06/06/may-reporting-roundup-3/">May Reporting Roundup</a> (330 comments)</li><li>2009.06 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/11/may-foreclosures-up-69-from-2008-in-king-county/">May Foreclosures Up 69% from 2008 in King County</a> (295 comments)</li><li>2008.08 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/08/21/house-valuation-workshop/">House Valuation Workshop</a> (232 comments)</li><li>2009.01 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/01/22/official-word-on-microsoft-layoffs-1400-now-5000-total/">Official Word on Microsoft Layoffs: 1,400 Now, 5,000 Total</a> (218 comments)</li><li>2009.07 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/27/are-home-price-drops-around-seattle-mostly-over/">Are Home Price Drops Around Seattle Mostly Over?</a> (218 comments)</li><li>2008.07 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/08/june-reporting-roundup-2/">June Reporting Roundup</a> (206 comments)</li><li>2009.08 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/28/comment-of-the-week-impulsive-behavior-disorder/">Comment of the Week: Impulsive Behavior Disorder</a> (198 comments)</li><li>2008.01 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/01/17/predictions-2007-revisited-2008-prognosticated/">Predictions: 2007 Revisited, 2008 Prognosticated</a> (186 comments)</li><li>2008.09 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/09/29/breaking-house-votes-down-700b-bailout/">Breaking: House Votes Down $700B Bailout</a> (179 comments)</li><li>2009.07 &#8211; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/06/nwmls-sales-edge-above-08-median-up-5-mom-down-12-yoy/">NWMLS: Sales Edge Above &#8216;08, Median Up 5% MOM, Down 12% YOY</a> (177 comments)</li></ol><p><strong>Top <del
datetime="2009-11-05T16:43:59+00:00">10</del> 12 most prolific commenters:</strong></p><ol><li><a
href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/realestate/author.asp?author=112562&#038;x=10&#038;y=9" rel="external nofollow">Kary L. Krismer</a> (2,548 comments)</li><li><a
href="http://SeattleBubble.com/" rel="external nofollow">The Tim</a> (2,085 comments)</li><li><a
href="http://www.fixerfixer.com" rel="external nofollow">david losh</a> (1,596 comments)</li><li>deejayoh (1,504 comments)</li><li>Scotsman (1,472 comments)</li><li>patient (1,190 comments)</li><li><a
href="http://clearcutbainbridge.blogspot.com/" rel="external nofollow">Eleua</a> (1,177 comments)</li><li>softwarengineer (1,150 comments)</li><li>meshugy (929 comments)</li><li>Matthew (925 comments)</li><li><a
href="http://www.500Realty.net" rel="external nofollow">Ray Pepper</a> (869 comments)</li><li>Jon (782 comments)</li></ol><p>[<em>Update:</em> There was a glitch in the auto-generated top ten that caused some commenters' count to be split.  I have updated the list to correct for this error.]</p><p>Technically, &#8220;Anonymous&#8221; was #1 with 2,651 comments (a throwback to Seattle Bubble&#8217;s old days at Blogger.com), but since that&#8217;s not really a single person, it doesn&#8217;t count.  What&#8217;s really impressive about Kary&#8217;s spot at #1 is that he only just started commenting on Seattle Bubble <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/17/thousands-of-sellers-gave-up-in-june/#comment-52721" title="Kary L. Krismer's first comment on Seattle Bubble">in July of last year</a>, so in less than 16 months he has managed to rack up nearly twice as many comments as the next-closest competitor (not counting myself), averaging 5.4 comments per day.</p><p>And let&#8217;s not leave out <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/forum/" title="Seattle Bubble Forum">the forum</a>!</p><p><strong>Top 10 forum posters:</strong></p><ol><li>rose-colored-coolaid (1,976 posts)</li><li>deejayoh (1,154 posts)</li><li>TJ_98370 (837 posts)</li><li>The Tim (790 posts)</li><li>Alan (780 posts)</li><li>Robroy (681 posts)</li><li>sniglet (679 posts)</li><li>Markor (602 posts)</li><li>biliruben (573 posts)</li><li>WestSideBilly (550 posts)</li></ol><p>A giant <b>THANK YOU</b> goes out to everyone that participates in the discussion here at Seattle Bubble.  I have learned a lot from you, and I think on the whole we have made a positive contribution to the understanding and demystifying of real estate and related economic issues in the Seattle area.  I hope that we can continue the conversation for many 0&#215;1000s of comments to come.  ;^)</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/11/05/seattle-bubble-commenters-thank-you/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>69</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Avoid Pitfalls When Appealing Your Property Tax Valuation</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/29/avoid-pitfalls-when-appealing-your-property-tax-valuation/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/29/avoid-pitfalls-when-appealing-your-property-tax-valuation/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:00:14 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Charlie Walsh</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[assessments]]></category> <category><![CDATA[guest-post]]></category> <category><![CDATA[King_County]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Property Taxes]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Reducing taxes]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Walsh]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7724</guid> <description><![CDATA[.thetable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .thetable td {padding: 0px 5px;}
Note from The Tim: The following is a guest post from Charlie Walsh, the Founder and CEO of ValueAppeal, a new startup based in Seattle. ValueAppeal is a simple online tool that homeowners can use to help them appeal their property tax assessments.
King County Property Tax [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<style>.thetable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .thetable td {padding: 0px 5px;}</style><p><em><strong>Note from The Tim:</strong> The following is a guest post from Charlie Walsh, the Founder and CEO of <a
href="http://www.valueappeal.com/" title="ValueAppeal">ValueAppeal</a>, a new startup based in Seattle. <a
href="http://www.valueappeal.com/" title="ValueAppeal">ValueAppeal</a> is a simple online tool that homeowners can use to help them appeal their property tax assessments.</em></p><p><span
style="font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">King County Property Tax Appeal Deadline Is Soon!</span></p><p>Each year counties around the country send out notices in the mail letting homeowners know what the new assessed value of their home is for property tax purposes. Unlike most counties around the country, King County doesn’t send out all of their assessment notices at the same time. Over the course of the summer, the King County Assessor sends out assessment notices for a different neighborhood each week. Homeowners have sixty (60) days from the postmark date on their mailing notice to file their appeal (a.k.a. Real Property Petition Form) with the King County Board of Equalization. That means each neighborhood’s appeal deadline is a little different.</p><p>When homeowners receive their notice in the mail that their property tax assessment has gone up above the market value of the home, the gut reaction is “there’s no way I could sell my house for that much.” That’s exactly what happened recently to the Thompson family in Seattle.  They received a notice in the mail that their four bedroom, 3 bathroom home was assessed for over $675,000, way more than they could possibly sell it for on the open market.</p><p>Unfortunately, most homeowners leave it at that. They pay their bill grudgingly and try to forget about it. A lot of homeowners may not even realize how much they’re overpaying because their mortgage company pays the property taxes on their behalf and then adds it to their statement each month. Fortunately the Thompsons didn’t just accept their unfair assessment, they figured out the rules for filing and appeal and lowered their assessment by just over $110,000, saving them over $1,300 on their property tax bill.</p><p>The first thing the Thompson’s did correctly was to make sure they filed their Real Property Petition Form before the end of their 60 day appeal window. (The Real Property Petition Form is available on the <a
href="http://www.kingcounty.gov/Assessor.aspx">King County Assessor’s website</a>, or by calling 206-296-7300) All King County homeowners receive an assessment notice in the mail between April and September of each year. The mailings are intentionally staggered over the course of the summer and homeowners have 60 days from the date of their mailing notice to file a notice of intent to appeal their assessment. The Thompsons received their assessment notice in the mail on September 10th so they had to file their appeal by November 9th at the latest.</p><p>In their research, the Thompsons learned that in order to prove their case for a lower assessment to the Board of Equalization, they needed to present 3-5 comparables homes “comps” along with the Real Property Petition Form they downloaded from the assessor’s website.  This meant finding nearby homes similar in square feet, lot size, bedrooms, bathrooms, etc, that sold for less than their home was assessed for. This was the Thompson’s first big hurdle; where were they going to get the comps?</p><p><span
style="font-size: 1.2em; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Finding the correct comps is harder than you might think.</span></p><p>Many homeowners will start by typing their address into a service like Zillow to get a long list of about 40 comps and picking the ones that seem best at first glance. Unfortunately, this often leads to their comps being disqualified and their appeal case being unceremoniously thrown out.</p><p>Why? There are a number of reasons comps are disqualified during an appeal hearing.  For starters, the King County Assessor evaluates your home’s value as of the January 1st assessment date each year by looking at comps that sold PRIOR to that assessment date. Therefore, in order to successfully appeal, the homeowner must also submit comps that sold PRIOR to the assessment date as well. Zillow’s data is constantly updated to attempt to determine a real time market value, so most of the comps you see displayed for your property sold AFTER January 1st, 2009 and would be disqualified by the assessor.</p><p>And that’s not all. Homeowners are not allowed to submit comps that sold as part of a foreclosure, short sale, inheritance or divorce transaction, donation to charity, or any other non arm’s length transaction. Yet all of these transactions are technically “sales” and show up in official records. Unfortunately if you look up comps on Zillow, many of these important details get lost.</p><p>As you can see there are some hurdles that homeowners have to deal with when appealing their property taxes. Finding the correct comps to use in a property tax appeal is difficult. Fortunately for the Thompsons, today there are <a
href="http://www.valueappeal.com/" title="ValueAppeal">online property tax appeal resources</a> available to help homeowners select the correct comps that didn’t even exist as recently as 2008.</p><p>On August 27th, 2009 the King County Assessor mailed assessment notices for the following neighborhoods: Queen Anne, Western West Seattle, Rainier Beach, Broadview, Blue Ridge, and Shilshole. That means the sixty (60) day window for these neighborhoods closes on Monday October 26th, 2009. If you’re only a week or two late filing your Real Property Petition Form they’ll usually let it slide, but don’t push it. If you never received your assessment notice in the mail you can sign an affidavit saying you never received it and they’ll allow you to file your petition after the deadline.</p><p>Click below for the remaining upcoming appeal King County property tax appeal deadlines.<span
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class="thetable"><tr><th>Neighborhood</th><th
style="width:100px;">Mailing Date</th><th
style="width:100px;">Appeal Deadline</th></tr><tr><td>Laurelhurst / Windermere</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>Mercer Island</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>Enumclaw Plateau</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>Ravenna / University District</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>Blk Diamond / E Maple Valley</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>East Auburn / SE Kent</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>Kennydale / Newport Shores</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>Kingsgate &#038; Queensgate</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>Fall City/Preston / Issaquah Highlands / <br
/>Snoqualmie Ridge</td><td>9/3/09</td><td>11/2/09</td></tr><tr><td>West Kent</td><td>9/17/09</td><td>11/16/09</td></tr><tr><td>Issaquah to May Valley</td><td>9/17/09</td><td>11/16/09</td></tr><tr><td>Covington</td><td>9/17/09</td><td>11/16/09</td></tr><tr><td>Lake Youngs</td><td>9/17/09</td><td>11/16/09</td></tr><tr><td>Kent &#038; Renton Suburbs</td><td>9/17/09</td><td>11/16/09</td></tr><tr><td>Vashon Island</td><td>9/17/09</td><td>11/16/09</td></tr></table> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/29/avoid-pitfalls-when-appealing-your-property-tax-valuation/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>15</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The rain returns, and with it the perfect house-shopping season.</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-rain-returns-and-with-it-the-perfect-house-shopping-season/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-rain-returns-and-with-it-the-perfect-house-shopping-season/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:42:21 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[advice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[right time to buy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sales]]></category> <category><![CDATA[weather]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7671</guid> <description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s no doubt that the gloomy, dark, wet weather has returned to Seattle.  While everyone around Seattle retreats into the warm confines of their living rooms and local coffee shops, I&#8217;d like to offer a bit of contrarian advice for the house-shoppers out there.  Seize the winter.
Winter is hands down the best time [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that the gloomy, dark, wet weather has returned to Seattle.  While everyone around Seattle retreats into the warm confines of their living rooms and local coffee shops, I&#8217;d like to offer a bit of contrarian advice for the house-shoppers out there. <strong>Seize the winter.</strong></p><p>Winter is hands down the best time to go house hunting in Seattle, for three major reasons.</p><p><b>1. Less Competition</b></p><p>If home sales were spread evenly throughout the year, each month would see roughly 8.3% of the yearly total.  Of course, anyone who has spent even a little bit of time following the real estate market knows that this is not the case.  Over the last nine years, four months have consistently accounted for less than their fair share of closed sales each year: November, December, January, and February.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Monthly-Closed-Sales-Pct_00-08.png" title="Monthly Percentage of Total Yearly Closed Sales: King Co. SFH 2000-2008"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Monthly-Closed-Sales-Pct_00-08-600x435.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Monthly Percentage of Total Yearly Closed Sales: King Co. SFH 2000-2008 - Click to enlarge" alt="Monthly Percentage of Total Yearly Closed Sales: King Co. SFH 2000-2008" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>Keep in mind that we&#8217;re talking about closed sales, so these represent people who were house-hunting roughly a month or so earlier.  In other words, if you want the least amount of competition, you should be out there looking for your next home in December or January.  October and November are also good, though not quite to the same degree.</p><p>It is true that inventory also tends to decline in the winter months, giving you less selection to choose from, but sales usually decline <em>more</em>, as winter almost always sees the yearly highs for &#8220;months of supply&#8221; (inventory divided by sales).  And less inventory isn&#8217;t necessarily a bad thing anyway, as that leads us to the second point&#8230;</p><p><b>2. More Motivated Sellers</b></p><p>How many times have you heard a hopeful seller declare as winter approaches: &#8220;I&#8217;ll just pull my house off the market for the winter and try again in the spring.&#8221;  These are the kinds of houses you <em>don&#8217;t</em> want to buy, because the sellers are obviously not very motivated.</p><p>Typically, sellers who leave their homes on the market through the long, dark winter are those that <em>need</em> to sell for some reason or another, and will therefore be more likely to be willing to bargain with you.</p><p>Look for homes that have been on the market for 4-5 months in the middle of December, and you&#8217;ll probably find a highly motivated seller.</p><p><b>3. Easier to Spot Major Problems</b></p><p>In the summer, Seattle homes look great with a fresh coat of paint, the blue sky in the background providing a delightful contrast to the gleaming reflection of the sun on the bright white trim.  But what you don&#8217;t see is the host of problems that may be lurking under the surface, ready to spring out the first time the rains return.</p><p>When it&#8217;s wet and rainy outside, it is far easier to spot lots of common Seattle-area house problems:</p><ul><li>leaky roof</li><li>leaky basement / crawl space</li><li>mold</li><li>flooding / muddy yard</li><li>poor insulation</li><li>bad window or door seals</li></ul><p>Buying a house is a major financial commitment <b>beyond</b> the mortgage, and it&#8217;s best to go into it knowing about these kinds of issues <em>before</em> they rear their ugly heads.  House shopping in the pouring rain is a great way to help make sure you don&#8217;t miss something.</p><p><b>Seize the winter.</b><br
/> Obviously if everyone took this advice, some of the benefits of house-hunting in the winter would be lost.  Fortunately for you, most people will continue to let things like school schedules and sunny skies dictate their house shopping plans, making the winter the perfect time for you to get the best house for the least amount of money.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/26/the-rain-returns-and-with-it-the-perfect-house-shopping-season/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>27</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Reader Question: No Debt &amp; An Impending Raise &#8211; Time to Jump In?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/19/reader-question-no-debt-an-impending-raise-time-to-jump-in/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/19/reader-question-no-debt-an-impending-raise-time-to-jump-in/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[affordability]]></category> <category><![CDATA[reader_question]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7615</guid> <description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a question I received from a reader over the weekend:
I have $50k in the bank, no debt, make 50k per year and am confident in a position that will pay 75k per year starting 06/10. Let&#8217;s assume that if the position doesn&#8217;t happen, I will take a second job to make up the difference.
I&#8217;ve [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question I received from a reader over the weekend:</p><blockquote><p>I have $50k in the bank, no debt, make 50k per year and am confident in a position that will pay 75k per year starting 06/10. Let&#8217;s assume that if the position doesn&#8217;t happen, I will take a second job to make up the difference.</p><p>I&#8217;ve never owned a home. Rent for me is one room in a house and just $400/mo. A place I buy would need to be on the eastside.</p><p>I&#8217;ve lived well below my means for years (and also been a Seattle Bubble reader for that amount of time). But in my current situation I&#8217;m seriously considering a first home. Your opinion on my situation would be appreciated.</p><p>- &#8220;Seattle Bill&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s my advice for Bill:</p><p><b>1) Structure your budget around what you already have <em>today</em>, not what you might have sometime in the near future.</b></p><p>You&#8217;re making $50,000 today.  That&#8217;s what you have to work with, not $75,000.  If you buy today, setting your budget based on a future expectation of a massive increase in salary, you&#8217;re setting yourself up for failure.</p><p>Here&#8217;s what I recommend to anyone that is considering buying, in any market.  First, go to your preferred mortgage broker, bank, or credit union and find out what kind of loans you are qualified for, how much you can borrow, and what your monthly payment would be.  Getting a pre-qualification does not require you to commit to a lender or a loan, but will tell you for sure how much you can borrow.</p><p>For example, let&#8217;s say you were pre-qualified for a $250,000 loan, with a monthly principal + interest payment of $1,100.  Add in probable taxes and insurance (we&#8217;ll say another $350 / month), and you&#8217;ve got a total monthly PITI obligation of $1,450.  With a yearly salary of $50,000, that comes out to 34% of your gross income.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/06/simple-affordability-calculator/" title="Simple Affordability Calculator">simple affordability calculator</a> I posted earlier this year to help you quickly calculate your own personal affordability situation.</p><p>Personally, my absolute upper limit would be 30%, but even that would come out to $1,250 a month for you, which is over three times what you&#8217;re paying right now.  Figure out what you <em>think</em> you&#8217;d be comfortable with, and then <em>force</em> yourself to live with that budget for six months, saving the difference between your current rent and your expected monthly house payment.</p><p>If you succeed in living within that budget for six months, you&#8217;ll have a pretty good idea of what other sacrifices you&#8217;ll have to make to buy the house, and you&#8217;ll have another $5,000+ in the bank to help pay for closing costs or your down payment.  If your salary does end up rising by 50%, either stick to what you could afford with $50k, or get pre-qualified again with the new salary, and &#8220;test drive&#8221; your budget again with the new salary.</p><p><b>2) If you decide to buy, pay a price that you think is fair for the house <em>today</em> (assume that it may stagnate or decrease in value in the future).</b></p><p>One surefire way to set yourself up for financial problems in the future is to rationalize your decision to buy a house by convincing yourself that it is a great financial investment.</p><p>There are plenty of great reasons to buy a house.  Buy a house because you want a place that you have control over.  Buy a house because you want stability.  Buy a house because you want to plant a garden.  Buy a house because you want to breed Irish Wolfhounds.  Just don&#8217;t buy a house because you think it will make you money.  Maybe it will, maybe it won&#8217;t, but that factor should not be a part of your decision-making process.</p><p><b>3) Keep your eye on bank-owned houses, and look for homes that need a little work.</b></p><p>There are definitely some good deals to be found out there today, but they&#8217;re not in the owner-occupied homes that have been &#8220;upgraded&#8221; with hardwood floors, granite countertops, and a fresh coat of paint on the outside.  High curb appeal may sell a house fast, but it doesn&#8217;t sell a house at a good bargain.  If you&#8217;re willing to put in a little bit of work, look for bank-owned fixers.</p><p><b>The Bottom Line: Know what you&#8217;re getting into.</b></p><p>Nobody can tell you what you should do, since no two people have the same financial situation.  My recommendation is just that you do the research, critically evaluate your finances, and should you decide to buy, do so with realistic expectations.</p><p>So what&#8217;s your advice for Seattle Bill?  Let&#8217;s hear from the commenters.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/19/reader-question-no-debt-an-impending-raise-time-to-jump-in/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>74</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Rent vs. Buy Comparisons: Have the excesses been removed?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/14/rent-vs-buy-comparisons-have-the-excesses-been-removed/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/14/rent-vs-buy-comparisons-have-the-excesses-been-removed/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:00:27 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Neighborhoods]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Statistics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buy-vs-rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[price-to-rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rent]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7548</guid> <description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s try another rent vs. buy exercise to see if &#8220;all the excesses have already been removed&#8221; as some have claimed.  Rather than delve into depth on a specific randomly-selected Seattle-area neighborhood, let&#8217;s instead look at what a specific type of house might cost you in multiple Seattle-area neighborhoods to rent vs. how much [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try another rent vs. buy exercise to see if &#8220;all the excesses have already been removed&#8221; <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/11/lawrence-yun-home-values-have-overshot-downward/" title="Lawrence Yun: &quot;Home values have overshot downward&quot;">as some have claimed</a>.  Rather than delve into depth on a specific randomly-selected Seattle-area neighborhood, let&#8217;s instead look at what a specific type of house might cost you in multiple Seattle-area neighborhoods to rent vs. how much it would cost to buy.</p><p><b>Methodology</b><br
/> The prices quoted below are for a 3-bed, 2-bath single-family homes with 1,750 to 2,000 square feet.  For the rentals, these are based on actual houses I found currently on the rental market.  For the sales, I used sale records of actual prices that people have paid in the last three months.  Where possible, I have located multiple samples that match the description above and taken the average price.</p><p>To calculate the monthly payment (principal + interest only), I&#8217;ll be using a 5.15% interest rate (roughly the average over the last three months), (generously) assuming 20% down on a 30-year mortgage.  Keep in mind that the true cost of buying also includes insurance, taxes, maintenance, and a host of other costs generally not paid by a renter.  For a more detailed breakdown of the total costs (and tax benefits) of buying, hit up <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/09/12/homebuying-platitudes-vs-reality/" title="Homebuying Platitudes vs. Reality">this 2007 post</a>.</p><p>I have also indicated the price to rent ratio, which is simply the home price divided by the total rent paid in a year.</p><table
class="sortable"><tr><th>Area</th><th>For Rent</th><th>P + I</th><th>Home Price</th><th>Ratio</th></tr><tr><td>Ballard</td><td>$1,595</td><td>$2,070</td><td>$473,661</td><td>24.7</td></tr><tr><td>Queen Anne</td><td>$2,000</td><td>$2,686</td><td>$615,000</td><td>25.6</td></tr><tr><td>Shoreline</td><td>$1,415</td><td>$1,609</td><td>$368,379</td><td>21.7</td></tr><tr><td>Kirkland*</td><td>$1,511</td><td>$2,040</td><td>$466,916</td><td>25.8</td></tr><tr><td>Redmond</td><td>$1,450</td><td>$1,877</td><td>$429,625</td><td>24.7</td></tr><tr><td>Renton</td><td>$1,250</td><td>$1,428</td><td>$326,938</td><td>21.8</td></tr><tr><td>West Seattle</td><td>$1,650</td><td>$2,271</td><td>$520,000</td><td>26.3</td></tr></table><p>According to <a
href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/price_rent_ratios/" title="Fortune Magazine: Where housing is headed">a table of data from Fortune Magazine</a>, Seattle&#8217;s price-to-rent ratio just before the local peak in prices was at 38.0, compared to a 15-year average of 23.3.  In our table above, the average price-to-rent ratio for a 3-bed, 2-bath home in a handful of Seattle-area neighborhoods comes out to 24.3.  Unfortunately, the two are not directly comparable since Forbes&#8217; calculation included houses, condos, and apartments all among the rentals (which would drive the rental prices lower and the long-term average price-to-rent ratio higher), while my data was drawn only from single-family homes.</p><p>While home prices have come down some since I first researched <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/09/12/homebuying-platitudes-vs-reality/" title="Homebuying Platitudes vs. Reality">the rent vs. buy discussion in detail back in 2007</a>, a growing oversupply of repartmenting condos and accidental landlords is also pushing down rents recently, so the price-to-rent ratio hasn&#8217;t actually changed as much as one might expect.</p><p>Overall, price-to-rent ratios in the low-to-mid 20s still seems a bit high.  Not crazy out of control bubble high, but it still looks like there is room for a bit more correction.  Especially when you consider that the current prices are being artificially propped up by unnaturally low interest rates and the $8,000 tax credit in the midst of nearly 10% unemployment and a local economic scene that has yet to show any clear signs of turning the corner.</p><p><span
style="font-size: 85%;">* [Updated, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/14/rent-vs-buy-comparisons-have-the-excesses-been-removed/#comment-84992">see comment #71 below</a>.]</span></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/14/rent-vs-buy-comparisons-have-the-excesses-been-removed/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>103</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Mythical Teeming Hordes of &#8220;Pent-Up Buyers&#8221;</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/07/the-mythical-teeming-hordes-of-pent-up-buyers/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/07/the-mythical-teeming-hordes-of-pent-up-buyers/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:45:50 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[demand]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Economy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[government_meddling]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Opinion]]></category> <category><![CDATA[pent-up demand]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tax credit]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7484</guid> <description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been hearing a lot of speculation recently that goes something along these lines:
There is basically this enormous teeming horde of potential home buyers out there lurking on the sidelines for no good reason.  All we need to do is come up with the right concoction of incentives to get these pent-up buyers off [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been hearing a lot of speculation recently that goes something along these lines:</p><blockquote><p>There is basically this enormous teeming horde of potential home buyers out there lurking on the sidelines for no good reason.  All we need to do is come up with the right concoction of incentives to get these pent-up buyers off the fence and the housing market will recover!</p></blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s just one example of that kind of reasoning from <a
href="http://www.thenewstribune.com/business/story/906213.html" title="Real estate rallies, agents say">an article yesterday&#8217;s Tacoma News Tribune</a>:</p><blockquote><p>According to Dick Beeson, a Windermere broker and a director of Northwest MLS, the latest numbers reflect &#8220;a lot of pent-up demand. A lot more people are realizing closed sales.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>As regular readers of these pages will recall, I do not buy the claim that there is a large mass of &#8220;pent-up demand.&#8221;  In fact, I believe quite the opposite is true: that during the bubble (thanks to virtually non-existant lending standards and a mass get-rich-quick hysteria) and now post-bubble (thanks to various bailouts, tax incentives, and artificially low interest rates) a significant amount of demand has been <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/07/tax-giveaways-succeed-in-borrowing-more-demand-from-the-future/" title="Tax Giveaways Succeed in Borrowing More Demand from the Future">borrowed from the future</a>.</p><p>Let&#8217;s take a few moments to visualize the concept of borrowed demand using data on closed sales and population.  Here are our working assumptions:</p><ul><li>The number of closed sales in the year 2000 is a reasonable baseline for a healthy market.</li><li>In a normal market, closed sales will grow linearly as a function of households.</li><li>Household size since the 2000 Census has remained steady at 2.39 people per household.</li><li>For 2009, fourth quarter closed sales will come in 10% above 2008.</li></ul><p>Based on these assumptions, here&#8217;s a view of the cumulative &#8220;borrowed demand&#8221; by year since 2000.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="<br /> http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Borrowed-Demand_2009-09.png" title="Cumulative Borrowed Demand"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Borrowed-Demand_2009-09-600x435.png" title="Cumulative Borrowed Demand - Click to enlarge" alt="Cumulative Borrowed Demand" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>While sales in 2001 and 2002 were fairly close to what our assumptions would have predicted (slightly lower, probably due to the dot-com bubble fallout), as the housing bubble began to inflate in 2003 the number of borrowed sales started to pile up at an alarming pace, peaking at over 23,000 in 2006.</p><p>Since 2005 when closed sales peaked at 31,939 (vs. a forecast &#8220;normal&#8221; level of 24,118), the number of closed sales has dropped significantly, falling to roughly half the peak level in 2008 at 15,991.  To real estate agents, these declining sales numbers indicate that there <em>must</em> be a building volume of &#8220;pent-up demand.&#8221;  However, as the chart above demonstrates, this is merely what it looks like when the market is forced to pay back the demand that was borrowed from the future.</p><p>If sales had been allowed to continue correcting at the natural rate we were seeing in the first few months of the year, the entire borrowed demand debt would likely have been paid in full in 2009, allowing sales volumes to begin to recover to a more normal level in 2010.  Instead, the market has been innundated with misguided attempts to bring out the non-existant &#8220;pent-up demand,&#8221; and the way things are shaping up right now it looks like last-ditch borrowing of future demand will leave us with a few thousand sales still to be paid back sometime in the future, likely resulting in a continued drag on demand in 2010 and 2011.</p><p>&#8220;Pent-up demand&#8221; is a myth.  That&#8217;s not to say that there aren&#8217;t some legitimate potential buyers out there with the ability to purchase who are sitting on the sidelines waiting for a better market opportunity.  However, they are most certainly far outnumbered by the buyers who purchased prematurely in 2003-2006 that would otherwise have waited a few years to buy once their finances were more in order.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/10/07/the-mythical-teeming-hordes-of-pent-up-buyers/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>54</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>What&#8217;s Behind Rising FHA Defaults?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/21/whats-behind-rising-fha-defaults/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/21/whats-behind-rising-fha-defaults/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:00:35 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[defaults]]></category> <category><![CDATA[FHA]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Financing]]></category> <category><![CDATA[foreclosures]]></category> <category><![CDATA[lending]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7308</guid> <description><![CDATA[Note from The Tim: Jillayne Schlicke has been a valued member of the Seattle Bubble community for quite some time, and I&#8217;m happy to welcome her as a guest poster.  Jillayne has many years experience in the lending industry and offers some great insights.  She currently provides continuing education for real estate professionals [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>Note from The Tim:</strong> Jillayne Schlicke has been a valued member of the Seattle Bubble community for quite some time, and I&#8217;m happy to welcome her as a guest poster.  Jillayne has many years experience in the lending industry and offers some great insights.  She currently provides continuing education for real estate professionals through her company <a
href="http://ceforward.com/">CE Forward</a>.</em></p><p>I’d like to thank The Tim for inviting me to create occasional guest posts for Seattle Bubble readers. SB’s bloggers and commenters have taught me how to critically analyze local real estate statistics. SB was a safe place I could go on a Friday night when my kids were elsewhere and I was craving an understanding of what was happening during the 2007-08 meltdown. I am honored to give back to the SB community.</p><p>The rising default rate on FHA loans is concerning but I’m not terribly surprised.  It’s really no secret that the government is using Fannie, Freddie and FHA to help keep the banks afloat by allowing zombie banks to pawn off their toxic crap to the agencies.  Ultimately the taxpayer is paying the price as we see Fannie and Freddie continuing to run a red balance sheet and FHA headed down the same path.</p><p>FHA originations were all but dead during the real estate bubble because so many LOs favored subprime lending where underwriting guidelines were non-existent.  But long ago, in a land far, far away, when we were rocking out to Duran Duran, Echo and the Bunnyman, and Joy Division, I was processing FHA loans for a mortgage banker in Seattle.  When rates came down to a low of 13% I had about 100 files in process. I was trained to pre-underwrite my files so underwriting recruited me and I became a young underwriter at age 23, just old enough to go drinking after work with the crew.  I’ll never forget Barbie Owens who had the entire FHA underwriting manual embedded into her brain Matrix-style (I know Jujitsu!) She could recite entire paragraphs from the manual verbatim. Imagine 20 female underwriters, all of us smoked, and none of the windows opened. That was mortgage banking in the 80s. But I digress.</p><p>Back in the 1980s, underwriting was serious business. We were treated like gods by the loan originators who worked in fear of us declining their deal.  Only David Korch knew how to play it. He brought us ice cream bars on hot, sunny days. New underwriters were given bunny files; easy conventional refinances, to cut our teeth.  Then we were sent to FHA training. FHA had a field office in Seattle with real humans who would actually answer the phone and our questions.  At least once a year a representative from FHA would take new underwriters through a six week FHA underwriting course called Direct Endorsement 101.  After we finished we could underwrite FHA credit only (on all FHA loans the appraisal goes through a separate underwriting process) as long as a senior FHA underwriter signed our files.</p><p>If an FHA loan went into default, it was presented as a case study in meetings so that all of us could learn from our mistakes.  If an FHA underwriter had too many defaults against her identifying number, she was put on probation.</p><p>This all changed during the subprime days when FHA’s business went down to literally nothing.  Today, FHA allows the FHA-approved lenders to appoint and train their own underwriters! Does anyone see the problem with that policy?</p><p>Let’s revisit early 2008. Wholesale lenders are dropping like flies, and six figure income mortgage brokers are sweating bullets trying to figure out how to make their next boat, BMW, second home, first home, and condo-in-Hawaii payment month after month.  They see the writing on the wall and the future, as far as they could see, was FHA.  Thousands of mortgage brokers rushed to become approved to originate FHA loans and hundreds of wholesale lenders and banks had to quick beef up their underwriting departments to handle the onslaught of FHA loans being hurriedly thrown at them.</p><p>Many of those underwriters only knew subprime loans and had never seen an FHA file, never read the FHA Single Family Mortgage Insurance Manual for 203b loans and suddenly lenders were making folks FHA underwriters overnight.</p><p>And now we’re wondering why default rates are so high.</p><p>FHA doesn’t make subprime loans.  They will allow loans to people with less than perfect credit but this is definitely not subprime territory.</p><p>We have three main problems leading to this dramatic rise in FHA defaults:</p><ol><li>Pressure from government to use FHA for purposes of taking toxic loans off the bank’s balance sheets;</li><li>Lack of education, training, and mentoring of new underwriters during the recent, dramatic rise in FHA originations; and,</li><li>Lack of a large enough down payment from the homeowner to insure against falling home prices.</li></ol><p>Negative equity combined with job loss, business failure, or other financial distress means higher FHA defaults are in our future as long as home values continue to drop, we allow banks to put underwriters into service with no training, and we let the politicians use FHA as a toxic waste dump.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/21/whats-behind-rising-fha-defaults/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>60</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Local Real Estate Search iPhone App Smackdown</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/08/local-real-estate-search-iphone-app-smackdown/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/08/local-real-estate-search-iphone-app-smackdown/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Coldwell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Findwell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[iPhone]]></category> <category><![CDATA[JohnLScott]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Redfin]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Zillow]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7189</guid> <description><![CDATA[This is a guest post from Kevin Lisota of Findwell Real Estate.  The Bay Area may still have more tech companies than Seattle, but we definitely seem to be leading the way in real estate tech, with four local companies now offering iPhone apps for real estate search.  Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have an [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is a guest post from Kevin Lisota of <a
href="http://www.findwell.com/" title="Findwell">Findwell Real Estate</a>.  The Bay Area may still have more tech companies than Seattle, but we definitely seem to be leading the way in real estate tech, with four local companies now offering iPhone apps for real estate search.  Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have an iPhone, so Kevin generously offered to write a comparison of the various iPhone apps available for Seattle real estate searchers.</i></p><p>Seattle has suddenly become a hotbed of real estate apps for the iPhone, now with four major competitors: <a
href="http://www.zillow.com/iphone/" title="Zillow iPhone App">Zillow</a>, <a
href="http://www.johnlscott.com/mobile-search.aspx" title="John L. Scott Real Estate - Mobile Property Search">John L Scott</a>, <a
href="http://coldwellbanker.com/servlet/Traffic?action=banner&#038;bannerId=257461&#038;page=home&#038;redirect=http%3a%2f%2fitunes%2eapple%2ecom%2fWebObjects%2fMZStore%2ewoa%2fwa%2fviewSoftware%3fid%3d325309137%26mt%3d8+" title="Coldwell Banker iPhone App">Coldwell Banker</a>, and the newest entrant, <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/iphone" title="Redfin's Real Estate App for the iPhone &#038; iPod Touch">Redfin</a>. Since The Tim doesn&#8217;t have an iPhone, I offered to jump in and and provide a head-to-head SMACKDOWN between these four heavyweights of the Seattle real estate world. (Full Disclosure: I run <a
href="http://www.findwell.com/" title="Findwell">findwell</a>, a competitor to all of these companies and an advertiser on Seattle Bubble. We don&#8217;t have our own iPhone app at the moment, so I can be objective in this comparison.)</p><p>Click below to read the full SMACKDOWN.</p><p><span
id="more-7189"></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.3em;">Zillow</span></p><p><a
href="http://www.zillow.com/iphone/" title="Zillow iPhone App"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Zillow1.png" style="border:0; float: right; margin: 0 0 5px 5px;" /></a><p>Zillow is the current king of the real estate app for the iPhone with over 700k downloads to date. The app is designed to provide mobile access to property data on Zillow and to take advantage of the GPS capabilities of the iPhone to instantly locate where you are.</p><p><b>The Good:</b></p><ol><li>Zillow&#8217;s database lists all properties that they find in tax records. You can see property data for every home on the street, including its size, configuration, year built, and Zillow&#8217;s estimate of the current value. Zillow will also identify recent comparable sales nearby.</li><li>Homes that are for sale on Zillow have added data, such as photos of the property and direct contact information for the listing agent or owner. You will also see homes where the owners have set a &#8220;Make Me Move&#8221; price, even though the home isn&#8217;t officially on the market.</li><li>Built in GPS capabilities quickly locate and follow you on the map, plus you can save your favorite searches and homes. It would be nice if the favorites and searches synchronized directly with your account on Zillow.</li></ol><p><b>The Not So Good:</b></p><ol><li>In most of the US, Zillow for sale listings are not provided by feeds from local Multiple Listing Service (MLS) systems. They are reliant on individual agents and brokerages to send them listings, which is an extra step that not all agents do these days. While their property database is complete from tax records, their sale listings are incomplete without feeds from the local MLS.</li><li>Zillow allows you to enter open house times, but these do not appear on the iPhone app.</li><li>I actually came across a few bugs with list prices displaying incorrectly on their map interface.</li></ol><p><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.3em;">John L Scott</span></p><p><a
href="http://www.johnlscott.com/mobile-search.aspx" title="John L. Scott Real Estate - Mobile Property Search"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/JohnLScott2.png" style="border:0; float: right; margin: 0 0 5px 5px;" /></a><p>John L Scott is a recent entrant in the iPhone market, but rather than create an actual application, they have created a custom mobile website available that automatically detects when you visit <a
href="http://www.johnlscott.com/">www.johnlscott.com</a> from an iPhone or other smartphones and renders search capabilities in a mobile-friendly format.</p><p><b>The Good:</b></p><ol><li>John L Scott is a brokerage and member of the Northwest MLS, so their listing database is up to date with all local agent listings.</li><li>Their mobile website uses the same &#8220;Property Tracker&#8221; system to access your saved searches and favorites. It was pretty seamless to share favorites back and forth between your mobile phone and their regular website, however I couldn&#8217;t figure out how to actually save a search on the mobile device. I could only view searches that I created on my desktop on the phone.</li><li>Because it is a web app and lacked maps, it did perform relatively quickly, even at the lowest Edge network speeds.</li></ol><p><b>The Not So Good:</b></p><ol><li>No map views &#8211; It is fairly easy to search by address, city or using the GPS, but the results window produces a list with 20-30 listings per screen. My search for nearby properties with the GPS resulted in 100+ properties. There is no way to see where they are on the map and having to tab through 5 consecutive screens to see them all is a major drag.</li><li>No map searches &#8211; Their text-based search is crude at best. When searching large numbers of listings, it seems a critical omission to not be able to use a map to display and search.</li><li>Their site shows open houses when they are in your list, but there is no way to search for open houses.</li></ol><p><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.3em;">Coldwell Banker</span></p><p><a
href="http://coldwellbanker.com/servlet/Traffic?action=banner&#038;bannerId=257461&#038;page=home&#038;redirect=http%3a%2f%2fitunes%2eapple%2ecom%2fWebObjects%2fMZStore%2ewoa%2fwa%2fviewSoftware%3fid%3d325309137%26mt%3d8+" title="Coldwell Banker iPhone App"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Coldwell-Banker2.png" style="border:0; float: right; margin: 0 0 5px 5px;" /></a><p>Coldwell Banker is not actually a Seattle company, rather an arm of the large national franchise company Realogy. They do have a substantial number of agents in Seattle, so we&#8217;ll include them in this competition.</p><p><b>The Good:</b></p><ol><li>Visually this app is fairly appealing and they did spend some time on graphic design. I&#8217;m not hugely fond of the page flip transitions, but overall it looks quite nice.</li></ol><p><b>The Not So Good:</b></p><ol><li>This app only shows listings from Coldwell Banker and other Realogy franchises. I don&#8217;t have the exact figures, but that means that something like 90+% of listings in our area don&#8217;t show up, rendering this app pretty much useless. Why wouldn&#8217;t they show all of the MLS listings like they do on their website?</li><li>The very first screen makes you register or sign in with a Coldwell Banker account. Forced logons are never a great idea, though if you look closely, there is a &#8220;skip this&#8221; choice in tiny text at the bottom.</li><li>The Coldwell Banker franchise in Seattle is Coldwell Banker Bain. Apparently Coldwell Banker Bain and the national Coldwell Banker site use totally different user databases and search technology. I can&#8217;t synchronize my favorites and searches with their iPhone app.</li><li>The app claims that it uses GPS to &#8220;find properties near me&#8221;. I have GPS and the best it can do is display a 15-mile radius of Seattle. When I click the GPS button again, it zooms out on Seattle to a 30-mile radius. If it is truly using GPS, finding properties near me means 1/4 mile or less!</li><li>Navigating around on the map does not automatically refresh properties. It looks like there are no listings until you hit the refresh button up top.</li></ol><p><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.3em;">Redfin</span></p><p><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/iphone" title="Redfin's Real Estate App for the iPhone &#038; iPod Touch"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Redfin1.png" style="border:0; float: right; margin: 0 0 5px 5px;" /></a><p>The latest entrant to the iPhone real estate melee is Redfin. Like Zillow and Coldwell Banker, Redfin created an application for the iPhone that integrates listings with Google Maps.</p><p><b>The Good:</b></p><ol><li>Integration between the iPhone app and the main Redfin site is good. The ability to upload photos and notes for each property and have them also appear on the main website it quite useful.</li><li>Data quality – Because Redfin is a broker member of the Northwest MLS, you can be assured that you are looking at the latest listings from local agents.</li><li>Easy to search nearby – Using the GPS quickly locates both listings and open houses in the nearby vicinity. Very handy when you are out and about on a Sunday afternoon looking at homes.</li><li>Most of the listing data you would find online is also available from the iPhone, including things like HOA dues and property tax amount. Unfortunately they omitted the listing history for each property, which certainly seems valuable info when you are evaluating each house.</li><li>User interface – Out of the four, navigation and data display seems the most elegant and well thought out.</li></ol><p><b>The Not So Good:</b></p><ol><li>Curiously your can save your favorites back and forth to the main Redfin website, but not your searches. Seems like a fairly common thing that home buyers would want on their mobile phone, particularly those waiting for immediate updates to the favorite searches.</li><li>The app does a good job at finding properties near you or ones where you specify specific search criteria. However, it does not allow free form searching on the map. If you are looking at search results on the map, you can swipe to new areas on the map, and nothing appears. Zillow seems to already have solved this.</li><li>Unlike Zillow, there is zero data available for properties that are not actively listed on the MLS. While this sort of makes sense when focusing on home buyers, there are many buyers who want quick info on surrounding properties when they are out house hunting.</li><li>For the moment, uploaded photos remain private, but Redfin has openly suggested that these could be made publicly viewable, even after the sale. I can see how fellow home buyers would love this sort of interactivity from the community, but it ignores two basic restrictions. First, as members of the MLS, Redfin does not own the vast majority of listings that appear on its site. Those listings are owned and controlled by listing agents from other brokerages and the sellers that they represent. I&#8217;m quite positive that making user-captured photos public flies in the face of the basic rules of the MLS and seller representation. Say what you will about MLS rules and regulations, but listing data is ultimately the property of the homeowner, not a third-party like Redfin. Sellers and their agents get to control how their listing appears on MLS sites, not random individuals. More concerning is a desire to make these photos public after sale. That feels like a major invasion of privacy for a new homeowner. Once a home is sold, the homeowner needs to control what, if any, photos from inside their home appear to the general public.</li></ol><p><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.3em;">Verdict</span></p><p>Who is the winner in our first Seattle iPhone SMACKDOWN? All of them have some work to do, but I&#8217;m going to give a tie to Zillow and Redfin for searching properties in Seattle. Zillow is interesting because it contains data for all properties in the tax records, including configuration and previous sale information. Redfin is better at searching active listings because they are based on MLS data. Redfin also has better interactivity with saving favorites, notes and photos back to their main website. John L Scott made a valiant first attempt with their mobile website, but the lack of maps and text-heavy interface make it clunky and hard to use. The Coldwell Banker app is a non-starter until the local Coldwell Banker Bain decides to integrate their search website with the national website. Until then, it is horribly incomplete.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/08/local-real-estate-search-iphone-app-smackdown/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>17</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Cheapest Seattle Homes: September Edition</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/04/cheapest-seattle-homes-september-edition/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/04/cheapest-seattle-homes-september-edition/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheapest-homes]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7154</guid> <description><![CDATA[.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}
Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, hit the April post.
Please note: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<style>.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}</style><p>Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/" title="Cheapest Seattle Homes: April Edition">hit the April post</a>.</p><p><b>Please note</b>: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement or endorsement of any specific home for sale.  We are merely taking a brief snapshot of the market at a given time.  Also, just because a home makes it onto the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; list, that does not indicate that it is a good value.</p><p>Here are this month&#8217;s three cheapest single-family homes in the city limits of Seattle (according to <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/" title="Search Seattle Homes">Redfin</a>):</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/8523-Dallas-Ave-S-98108/home/477350">8523 Dallas Ave S</a></td><td>$115,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>900</td><td>3,480 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2558/WA/Seattle/South-Park">South Park</a></td><td>$134</td><td>Bank-Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9444-15th-Ave-SW-98106/home/2096591">9444 15th Ave SW</a></td><td>$149,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>830</td><td>2,145 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/682/WA/Seattle/Delridge">Delridge</a></td><td>$180</td><td>Probable Short Sale</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/526-S-Concord-St-98108/home/21708684/nwmls-29107469">526 S Concord St</a></td><td>$154,950</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td><a
href="http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=7883601551" title="Assessor information for parcel number 7883601551">530</a></td><td>6,000 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2558/WA/Seattle/South-Park">South Park</a></td><td>$292</td><td>-</td></tr></table><p>The #1 home from July&#8217;s post retained its top spot, with another $6,000 reduction in price.  July&#8217;s #2 home went off the market, while #3 is still on the market at the same price ($160k).</p><p><b>Stats snapshot for Seattle Single-Family Homes Under $200,000</b><br
/> Total on market: 48<br
/> Average number of beds: 2.3<br
/> Average number of baths: 1.2<br
/> Average square footage: 1,042<br
/> Average days on market: 73</p><p>Here are the three cheapest homes in terms of dollars per square foot:</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9345-7th-Ave-S-98108/home/21883894">9345 7th Ave S.</a></td><td>$74</td><td>$404,988</td><td>4</td><td>2.5</td><td>5,463</td><td>2,283 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2558/WA/Seattle/South-Park">South Park</a></td><td>Short Sale</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/5926-S-Eastwood-Dr-98178/home/177824">5926 S Eastwood Dr</a></td><td>$74</td><td>$205,000</td><td>4</td><td>2.75</td><td>2,760</td><td>6,000 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2247/WA/Seattle/Rainier-View">Rainier View</a></td><td>-</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9021-10th-Ave-SW-98106/home/475993">9021 10th Ave SW</a></td><td>$97</td><td>$285,000</td><td>5</td><td>3</td><td>2,950</td><td>7,140 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1246/WA/Seattle/Highland-Park">Highland Park</a></td><td>New Construction</td></tr></table><p>July&#8217;s #3 in terms of $/sqft is <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9456-13th-Ave-SW-98106/home/11901240">still on the market</a>, but for some reason the listing now does not mention the structure, so I removed it from the list.  Also, the Eastwood Dr listing seems to have mysteriously gained 310 sqft since we last noticed it.  Hmm&#8230;</p><p>Here&#8217;s the last bonus:  The lowest dollars per square foot on a house priced above $500,000: <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9457-10th-Ave-SW-98106/home/12301472" title="9457 10th Ave SW">9457 10th Ave SW</a> at $137 $/sqft.  $549,888, 7 beds, 4 baths, 4,000 square feet.  New construction, first listed in August of last year.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/09/04/cheapest-seattle-homes-september-edition/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>31</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Checking Up on the &#8220;Forced Savings Plan&#8221; Myth</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/31/checking-up-on-the-forced-savings-plan-myth/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/31/checking-up-on-the-forced-savings-plan-myth/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:00:13 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[bought at the peak]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buy-vs-rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[equity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fundamentals]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mythbusting]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[saving]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Stock Market]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7050</guid> <description><![CDATA[Please consider the following excerpt from a post I wrote that was originally published on the personal finance blog Get Rich Slowly (and later here):
&#8230;if home buying is like a savings plan, it’s probably the worst savings plan on Earth. Would you voluntarily sign up for a savings plan where well over half of the [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please consider the following excerpt from a post I wrote that was originally published <a
href="http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2007/07/16/renting-vs-buying-the-realities-of-home-buying/" title="Renting vs. Buying: The Realities of Home-Ownership">on the personal finance blog Get Rich Slowly</a> (and later <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/09/12/homebuying-platitudes-vs-reality/" title="Homebuying Platitudes vs. Reality">here</a>):</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;if home buying is like a savings plan, it’s probably the worst savings plan on Earth. Would you voluntarily sign up for a savings plan where well over half of the money you deposit in the first 20 years simply vanishes, and from which you can only withdraw money by relocating and paying a 6-9% fee (not on the amount you have &#8220;saved&#8221; mind you, but on the total sale price of the home)? Of course not. That doesn&#8217;t sound anything like a savings plan.</p><p>If your goal is to build wealth, you will be much better off investing your money in the stock market than buying a home.</p></blockquote><p>In the post, I described a pair of examples using real-world homes that I had located on both the rental and for sale markets at the time: comparable 3-bed, 2.5-bath, 1,800 sqft houses in nearby neighborhoods in the Kirkland / Juanita area.  The rental was $1,495 a month, and the home for sale had an asking price of $425,000.</p><p>It just so happens that I wrote this post in July 2007, the peak month for Seattle home prices according to both the Case-Shiller home price index and the NWMLS King County SFH median.  As such, I thought it might be instructive to run a little comparison of how things would have turned out for the hypothetical buyer and renter / stock investor described in the original post.  With home prices off over 20% from their peak, and stocks down 34%, who would currently have more equity?</p><p>Following is a chart that shows the monthly equity in each scenario.  Note that the buyer adds to their equity by paying $322-$367 in principal each month (it increases slightly each month), while the renter / stock investor increases their equity by adding the $1,161-$964 (it decreases slightly due to rent increases) they are saving each month to their investment.  The value of the home is based on Seattle&#8217;s Case-Shiller index, with a slight increase in value assumed for July and August.  The value of the stock investment is based on the S&amp;P 500 index, and rent increases are based on the &#8220;rent of primary residence&#8221; portion of the CPI for the Seattle area.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Comparison_2009-08.png" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $85,000 Down on a $425,000 House"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Comparison_2009-08-600x435.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $85,000 Down on a $425,000 House - Click to enlarge" alt="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $85,000 Down on a $425,000 House" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>As of the end of August, just over two years into their respective &#8220;investments,&#8221; our hypothetical homebuyer is left with $537, while the renter / stock investor currently has $84,690 in equity.  Here&#8217;s a visual of the total amount of money each would have put into their respective investments, and the total amount they have lost in the crash:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Lost_2009-08.png" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $85,000 Down on a $425,000 House"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Lost_2009-08-600x435.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $85,000 Down on a $425,000 House - Click to enlarge" alt="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $85,000 Down on a $425,000 House" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>At 25%, the stock investor&#8217;s loss is nothing to sneeze at for sure, but it pales in comparison to the 99% loss suffered by the peak homebuyer.  Ouch.</p><p>But what if we tweak the scenario slightly, in order to stack the deck as much as we can against the renter / stock buyer?  Let&#8217;s say we set the start date to October 2007, the peak of the stock market, and only run the numbers through February 2009, the low point when stocks were over 50% off their peak.  The stock buyer&#8217;s losses double to 50%, but as it turns out, the home buyer is still far worse off with a 93% loss.</p><p>Of course, the $85,000 down scenario isn&#8217;t really very realistic compared to what most people were really doing in 2007.  Let&#8217;s modify the situation a bit into something more reflective of reality.</p><p>Instead of comparing 20% down on a $425,000 house, let&#8217;s say the hypothetical potential buyer and renter had just $8,750, which would be a 3.5% down payment on a $250,000 house.  Again, to stack the deck against the renter / stock buyer in this scenario, we&#8217;ll assume they&#8217;re still paying $1,495 a month in rent, even though that would rent a <em>far</em> nicer house in 2007 than $250k would buy.</p><p>Here&#8217;s the equity matchup for our more realistic scenario:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Comparison-Entry-Level_2009-08.png" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $8,750 Down on a $250,000 House"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Comparison-Entry-Level_2009-08-600x435.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $8,750 Down on a $250,000 House - Click to enlarge" alt="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $8,750 Down on a $250,000 House" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>Wow.  The homebuyer in this scenario presently has <b>negative</b> $39,847 in equity, while the stock buyer has $12,820.  Take a look at the invested / lost chart:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Lost-Entry-Level_2009-08.png" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $8,750 Down on a $250,000 House"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Equity-Lost-Entry-Level_2009-08-600x435.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $8,750 Down on a $250,000 House - Click to enlarge" alt="Peak Buyer Equity Comparison: $8,750 Down on a $250,000 House" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>The homebuyer has lost 364% of what they have put in, vs. 22% for the stock buyer.</p><p>I think this is an appropriate time to repeat the point I quoted at the beginning of this post.  If home buying is like a savings plan, it&#8217;s probably <b>the worst savings plan on Earth</b>.</p><p>When you actually look at the present equity situation for the people who jumped into the housing market near the peak, stretching their budgets to buy a house that they didn&#8217;t even intend to live in long-term, the current record foreclosures start to make some sense.</p><p>If you bought a house near the peak thinking that it would be a great &#8220;forced savings plan,&#8221; you would probably be pretty tempted to hand over the keys, walk away, get yourself into a nice affordable rental, and get yourself started on an <b>actual</b> savings plan&mdash;like actually <em>saving</em> money every month.  And who could blame you, really.</p><p><span
style="font-size: 85%;"><strong>P.S.</strong> &#8211; I should add that at this particular moment, I don&#8217;t think the stock market is a very good place to put your money.  With a P/E ratio on the S&#038;P 500 somewhere in the ballpark of 150, I think stocks are primed to drop back down in the not-too-distant future, possibly by a considerable amount.  That&#8217;s not investment advice, just my personal opinion.</span></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/31/checking-up-on-the-forced-savings-plan-myth/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>101</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Comment of the Week: Impulsive Behavior Disorder</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/28/comment-of-the-week-impulsive-behavior-disorder/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/28/comment-of-the-week-impulsive-behavior-disorder/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:14:19 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[affordability]]></category> <category><![CDATA[bailout]]></category> <category><![CDATA[banks]]></category> <category><![CDATA[comments]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=7043</guid> <description><![CDATA[This comment of the week is brought to you by Jonness:
All’s I know is my household income is 6 figures, I have no kids, I have 20% down, and I still don’t feel like I can afford a house priced $400K. How people are pulling the FHA trigger with 3.5% down and $70K in household [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment of the week is <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/27/what-the-heck-is-the-affordability-index-anyway/#comment-81345" title="Comment by Jonness">brought to you by Jonness</a>:</p><blockquote><p>All’s I know is my household income is 6 figures, I have no kids, I have 20% down, and I still don’t feel like I can afford a house priced $400K. How people are pulling the FHA trigger with 3.5% down and $70K in household income is beyond me. I mean, what happens if a spouse loses a job or a family member gets ill? Don’t people care about long-term stability in their lives? It appears to me, a lot of people borrow as much as they possibly can at every new moment in time.</p><p>IMO, no houses are affordable right now, because buyers like me have to compete with 10 flaky families overstretching themselves to get a dump on a 6K sq. ft. lot. They do this purely out of ignorance and an inability to control their impulsive behavior disorder. Then when they default, I pay taxes to bail their irresponsible arses out. Meanwhile, the govt. floods the market with borrowed dollars in order to artificially inflate the price of the foreclosed home so that the crazy banker who made the outrageously risky loan can continue to live in a house that I cannot afford to buy.</p><p>This game is crazy.</p></blockquote><p>So what&#8217;s the cure for impulsive behavior disorder?  Is there one?  Surely there must be a way out of this self-destructive cycle, right?</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/28/comment-of-the-week-impulsive-behavior-disorder/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>198</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Localism: Still a Wasteland &#124; KOMO: We Want Some of that Action</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/20/localism-still-a-wasteland-komo-we-want-some-of-that-action/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/20/localism-still-a-wasteland-komo-we-want-some-of-that-action/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:10:43 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[ActiveRain]]></category> <category><![CDATA[advertising]]></category> <category><![CDATA[blogging]]></category> <category><![CDATA[hyperlocal]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Localism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Neighborhoods]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6897</guid> <description><![CDATA[A little over a year ago ActiveRain (basically a social network for real estate professionals) launched
Localism, an attempt at leveraging their nationwide network of real estate salespeople to generate content for thousands of &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221; city and neighborhood portals, presumably in order to create an attractive platform on which small businesses would spend their advertising dollars. [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little over a year ago ActiveRain (basically a social network for real estate professionals) launched<br
/> <a
href="http://localism.com/" title="Welcome to Localism">Localism</a>, an attempt at leveraging their nationwide network of real estate salespeople to generate content for thousands of &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221; city and neighborhood portals, presumably in order to create an attractive platform on which small businesses would spend their advertising dollars. <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/07/09/localism-hyper-local-real-estate-sales-pitches/" title="Localism – Hyper Local Real Estate Sales Pitches">Our review of Localism&#8217;s Seattle-area offerings</a> concluded that the site amounted to little more than sales pitches from &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221; agents.</p><p>Checking in on Localism a year later reveals that not much has changed.  The four local pages we reviewed are nearly as empty as they were, with none of the so-called &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221; blogs even managing to average more than about two posts per month.  The contributors are all still all real estate salespeople, and <a
href="http://localism.com/users/new" title="Register for Localism&mdash;NOT">the registration page</a> still says &#8220;we&#8217;re not taking new accounts right now.&#8221;</p><p>With the rousing success of Localism in their first year, it&#8217;s no wonder that other corporations would be dying to jump onto the &#8220;let&#8217;s create a bunch of &#8216;hyperlocal&#8217; blogs on templates&#8221; bandwagon&mdash;wait, what?  No, that doesn&#8217;t make any sense.  And yet, that&#8217;s exactly what KOMO News decided to do this week, launching <a
href="http://www.komonews.com/communities" title="KOMO News - Communities">their very own &#8220;community&#8221; pages</a>.</p><p>KOMO&#8217;s new pages are definitely a few steps above the bland failure that is Localism.  From day one they are allowing and encouraging people to register and contribute.  The layout is more inviting and looks like it has more going on.  Plus, at least as at the corporate level KOMO is local to the &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221; markets they are attempting to attract.</p><p>I do notice that advertising takes up quite a bit of &#8220;above the fold&#8221; space, and their right sidebar has a dedicated section for &#8220;Local Real Estate Agents,&#8221; so it is fairly obvious what KOMO&#8217;s motivation is here.  I certainly don&#8217;t begrudge them the chance to try to make money, but I still don&#8217;t see what they&#8217;re offering that local blogs are not.</p><p>Just like Localism, many of the communities with shiny new KOMO pages already have popular, well-established blogs, run by dedicated locals.  KOMO says they&#8217;re not attempting to compete with these sites, but in reality I doubt there are really two separate markets in the neighborhood blogging scene&mdash;one for authentic, community-driven blogs, and another for template-ized, corporate profit vehicles.</p><p>[<b>Update:</b> See an (official?) <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/20/localism-still-a-wasteland-komo-we-want-some-of-that-action/#comment-80937">response from KOMO below</a>, describing their perspective.]</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/20/localism-still-a-wasteland-komo-we-want-some-of-that-action/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>19</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Seattle Real Estate Reporting: There Can Be Only One</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/12/seattle-real-estate-reporting-there-can-be-only-one/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/12/seattle-real-estate-reporting-there-can-be-only-one/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:41:53 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Rain City Guide]]></category> <category><![CDATA[real_estate_professionals]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Seattle_PI]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Seattle_Times]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6795</guid> <description><![CDATA[When I started Seattle Bubble just over four years ago in August 2005, there were many sources for local real estate news&#8212;The Seattle Times, The Seattle P-I, Rain City Guide, etc&#8230;  I started this site not due to a lack of news sources, but due to what I felt was a lack of consumer-oriented [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started Seattle Bubble <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2005/08/08/welcome-to-seattle-bubble/" title="Welcome to Seattle Bubble">just over four years ago</a> in August 2005, there were many sources for local real estate news&mdash;The Seattle Times, The Seattle P-I, Rain City Guide, etc&#8230;  I started this site not due to a lack of news sources, but due to what I felt was a lack of <em>consumer-oriented</em> local real estate news.  All of the existing sources were heavy on the industry cheerleading and light on actual investigation and digging into the numbers.</p><p>Lately the local real estate news scene has been changing quite a bit&#8230;</p><p><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/There-Can-Be-Only-One.jpg" title="There can be only one." alt="There can be only one." style="float: left; margin: 5px 5px 5px 0; border: 1px solid #000000;" />Back in November of last year the Seattle Times&#8217; dedicated real estate reporter Elizabeth Rhodes was <a
href="http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/11/14/sign_of_the_times" title="Slog: Sign of the Times">voluntarily downsized</a>.  Yesterday <a
href="http://www.seattlepi.com/" title="Seattle P-I">SeattlePI.com</a> real estate reporter Aubrey Cohen announced that he is <a
href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/realestatenews/archives/176055.asp" title="Changes to our real estate coverage">moving to the aerospace beat</a>, with no mention of anyone moving into the dedicated real estate position.</p><p>Over at the Times, business reporter Eric Pryne has been doing a good job with the occasional real estate story, and Aubrey says that he will &#8220;continue to help guide&#8221; the real estate reporting at the P-I.  I don&#8217;t doubt that both news outlets will continue to cover real estate issues, but neither seems to have a dedicated reporter for the subject.</p><p>Meanwhile, the P-I &#8220;reader blog&#8221; <a
href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/realestate/" title="Seattle Real Estate Professionals">Seattle Real Estate Professionals</a> is all but dead, averaging about one post every other week. <a
href="http://raincityguide.com/" title="Rain City Guide">Rain City Guide</a> has evolved itself into some sort of real estate search / general industry discussion site with Seattle-specific stories having become quite rare.</p><p>It would seem that after four years, Seattle Bubble is now Seattle&#8217;s <em>only</em> source for dedicated local real estate reporting.</p><p>With that in mind, I&#8217;d like to open up a conversation with you, the readers, about what you would like to get out of the local real estate reporting provided here at Seattle Bubble.  Rather than kicking back and using the lack of competition as an excuse to be lazy, I&#8217;d prefer to take this opportunity to improve the site even more.</p><p>So what would you like to get out of Seattle Bubble?  More personal interest stories?  More interactive maps and interactive charts?  Additional community-driven features?  Coverage of specific neighborhood issues?  Let&#8217;s hear your ideas.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/12/seattle-real-estate-reporting-there-can-be-only-one/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>88</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Stalled Development Map: Over 75 Stalled Projects Mapped</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/10/stalled-development-map-over-75-stalled-projects-mapped/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/10/stalled-development-map-over-75-stalled-projects-mapped/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:31:10 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[construction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Google]]></category> <category><![CDATA[maps]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6770</guid> <description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s another update on the Seattle Bubble interactive stalled / slow development map.
In the month and a half since the launch of the map, readers have contributed 76 stalled and/or slowed residential developments in the greater Seattle area.  The Bothell area still has the largest representation, and even months after starting the map, I [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another update on the <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&#038;msa=0&#038;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258" title="Google Maps: Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction">Seattle Bubble interactive stalled / slow development map</a>.</p><p>In the month and a half since <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/23/mapping-stalled-slow-construction-around-seattle/" title="Mapping Stalled / Slow Construction Around Seattle">the launch of the map</a>, readers have contributed <strong>76</strong> stalled and/or slowed residential developments in the greater Seattle area.  The Bothell area still has the largest representation, and even months after starting the map, I still spot a new one that hasn&#8217;t been mapped yet every week or two.</p><p>Again, anyone can contribute to this map, just <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&#038;msa=0&#038;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258" title="Google Maps: Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction">load it up in Google</a> and add the stalled / slowed residential construction sites (SFH or condo) near you.  Below is the current stalled development map.  Please feel free to continue contributing new locations and improving the data, especially if you live in an area with currently spotty coverage.</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 662px;"><iframe
width="660" height="775" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258&amp;ll=47.661688,-122.200000&amp;spn=0.554953,0.823975&amp;z=10&amp;output=embed"></iframe><br
/><small>View <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258&amp;ll=47.661688,-122.200000&amp;spn=0.554953,0.823975&amp;z=10&amp;source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction</a> in a larger map</small></p><p>What amuses me is that there are still people out there claiming that we will be facing a housing <em>shortage</em> in just a year or two.  I wonder if Todd Britsch (of <em>Bothell</em>-based <a
href="http://www.newhometrends.com/">New Home Trends</a>) is still holding to <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/10/20/double-digit-appreciation-returning-soon-to-seattle/" title="Double-Digit Appreciation Returning Soon to Seattle!">his 2008 prediction</a> that &#8220;Seattle is headed for a serious shortage that could bring a return to double-digit price appreciation starting in 2012.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/08/10/stalled-development-map-over-75-stalled-projects-mapped/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>100</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Bottom-Calling Checkup: No Bottom In Sight Yet</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/31/bottom-calling-checkup-no-bottom-in-sight-yet/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/31/bottom-calling-checkup-no-bottom-in-sight-yet/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:00:38 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Statistics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[bottom-calling]]></category> <category><![CDATA[inventory]]></category> <category><![CDATA[predictions]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6655</guid> <description><![CDATA[Back in February while the market&#8217;s deep freeze was leading some observers to anxiously declare that we had reached the bottom, here at Seattle Bubble we sliced and diced the market in Bottom-Calling Week.  In the series we explored six different analytical methods for predicting when real estate around Seattle would hit &#8220;the bottom.&#8221;
Six [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in February while the market&#8217;s deep freeze was leading some observers to anxiously declare that we had reached the bottom, here at Seattle Bubble we sliced and diced the market in <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/02/16/bottom-calling-week-on-seattle-bubble/" title="Bottom-Calling Week on Seattle Bubble">Bottom-Calling Week</a>.  In the series we explored six different analytical methods for predicting when real estate around Seattle would hit &#8220;the bottom.&#8221;</p><p>Six new months of Case-Shiller data have been released since that series and two potential bottom dates are now in the rear-view mirror.  It seems like good time for a little checkup.</p><p>First up, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/02/16/bottom-calling-week-on-seattle-bubble/#method0" title="Bottom-Calling: Blind Optimism">Method 0: Blind Optimism</a>.  Our &#8220;Blind Optimism&#8221; forecast method was based on a mere gut feeling that January was the peak for year-over-year drops.  This method predicted a bottom in February at 16.9% off the peak.  Let&#8217;s see how that turned out:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bottom-Calling-Method-0_Blind-Optimism-Checkup.png" title="Bottom-Calling Method 0: Blind Optimism"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bottom-Calling-Method-0_Blind-Optimism-Checkup-600x435.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Bottom-Calling Method 0: Blind Optimism - Click to enlarge" alt="Bottom-Calling Method 0: Blind Optimism" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>I guess we can put that one to bed.  February was definitely <b>not</b> the bottom.</p><p>Next, let&#8217;s check in on <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/02/16/bottom-calling-inventory-based-forecast/" title="Bottom-Calling: Inventory-Based Forecast">Bottom-Calling: Inventory-Based Forecast</a>, which was based on the relationship between standing inventory (&#8220;active listings&#8221;) and home prices that Deejayoh explored in his post <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/06/17/why-inventory-matters/" title="Why Inventory Matters">Why Inventory Matters</a>, and predicted a bottom in April at 20.1% off the peak.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bottom-Calling-Method-1_Inventory-Based-Checkup.png" title="Bottom-Calling Method 1: Inventory-Based Forecast"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bottom-Calling-Method-1_Inventory-Based-Checkup-600x435.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Bottom-Calling Method 1: Inventory-Based Forecast - Click to enlarge" alt="Bottom-Calling Method 1: Inventory-Based Forecast" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>Looks like April wasn&#8217;t the bottom either.  Although, in fairness, in the time since we made this forecast, we discovered that <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/11/recent-spike-in-pending-sales-due-to-change-in-definition/">the NWMLS changed the definition of &#8220;active listing&#8221;</a> back in July 2008 a way that resulted in lower inventory being reported at the end of the month.  So it&#8217;s no real surprise that this method turned out not to be very reliable.</p><p>Lastly, let&#8217;s check in on a summary of where we&#8217;re at so far with respect to all six of our bottom-calling methods:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bottom-Calling-Update_2009-05.png" title="Bottom-Calling: May 2009 Update"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bottom-Calling-Update_2009-05-600x436.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px;" title="Bottom-Calling: May 2009 Update - Click to enlarge" alt="Bottom-Calling: May 2009 Update" width="600" height="436"></a></p><p>Our official February 2009 call was for 36% off the peak in December 2010.  Six months later, I&#8217;m still comfortable sticking with that guess.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/31/bottom-calling-checkup-no-bottom-in-sight-yet/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>58</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Northshore Townhomes: A Case Study in Bubble Mania Development</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/23/northshore-townhomes-a-case-study-in-bubble-mania-development/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/23/northshore-townhomes-a-case-study-in-bubble-mania-development/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[developers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Kenmore]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Mastro]]></category> <category><![CDATA[townhomes]]></category><guid
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Regular readers may recall past mentions on these pages of Northshore Townhomes, an 86-unit townhome complex in my north Kenmore neighborhood.
The story of Northshore Townhomes is a classic tale of bubble mania.  The 6-acre parcel was purchased in 2002 for $1 million by well-known local developer Mike Mastro (via an LLC), but development did [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div
style="margin: 0 0 5px 10px; float: right; display: block; width: 252px; height: 375px;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/northshore-kenmore-signs-800.jpg" title="Northshore Townhomes Sandwich Signs"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/northshore-kenmore-signs.jpg" width="250" height="373" alt="Northshore Townhomes Sandwich Signs" title="Northshore Townhomes Sandwich Signs" style="border: 1px solid #000000; width: 250px; height: 373px;" /></a></div><p>Regular readers may recall <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/06/02/anecdotes-kenmore-condo-battle-heating-up/" title="Anecdotes: Kenmore Condo Battle Heating Up">past</a> <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/04/massive-condo-oversupply-on-the-north-end/" title="Massive Condo Oversupply on the North End">mentions</a> on these pages of Northshore Townhomes, an 86-unit townhome complex in my north Kenmore neighborhood.</p><p>The story of Northshore Townhomes is a classic tale of bubble mania. <a
href="http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=0126049078" title="Assessor information for parcel number 0126049078">The 6-acre parcel</a> was purchased in 2002 for $1 million by well-known local developer Mike Mastro (via an LLC), but development did not begin in earnest until 2006, breaking ground in the midst of the real estate frenzy (condo prices were up over <em>24%</em> year-over-year in November that year).</p><p>Now, Kenmore is nice, but it&#8217;s not exactly near the top of most people&#8217;s lists when they are thinking about where they want to live around Seattle.  Is Kenmore really the best market in which to build 86 new townhomes priced $280,000 to $400,000, with <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/northshore-kenmore-features.jpg" title="excerpt from a Northshore Kenmore ad">a feature list</a> that includes &#8220;the finest finishes throughout&#8221; and &#8220;chic cabanas with table, bar, and rollout lounges&#8221;?  And even if Kenmore is a good place for such a development, does it make sense to put it <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&#038;source=s_d&#038;saddr=18226+68th+Ave+NE,+Kenmore,+WA+98028-2601+(James+G+Murphy+Inc)&#038;daddr=Northshore+Townhomes&#038;hl=en&#038;geocode=FbHI2AIdw562-CEQV_Oq64JAyA%3BFfjM2AIdi7K2-CETAQkVttKfFQ&#038;mra=ls&#038;sll=47.762097,-122.246311&#038;sspn=0.005149,0.009559&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;ll=47.76214,-122.246836&#038;spn=0.005149,0.009559&#038;t=h&#038;z=17" title="Google Map">half a block</a> from <a
href="http://www.murphyauction.com/" title="James G. Murphy Co.">a major auction house</a>?  Obviously not, but during the bubble <em>everything</em> was being snatched up with bidding wars as soon as it came on the market, so in the mind of the developer it was probably a no-lose proposition.</p><p>As construction on Northshore neared completion in early 2008, the marketing began to ramp up. <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/northshore-beyond-your-imagination.jpg" title="Northshore Townhomes website snapshot">A flashy website</a> came online, sandwich boards were strewn about the neighborhood, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/totally-new.jpg" title="Totally New! Totally Luxurious! (Totally Not Selling!)">billboards</a> were placed all along Bothell / Lake City Way, and <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/northshore-kenmore-ad.jpg" title="Northshore Kenmore 2008 buyer's promotion">promotions</a> were launched.  Everything looked great, except for one thing&#8230;  There were no buyers.</p><div
style="clear: both;"></div><div
style="float: left;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-gallery01.jpg" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-thumb01.jpg" width="320" height="240" style="border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 0;" alt="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" /></a></div><div
style="float: right;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-gallery02.jpg" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-thumb02.jpg" width="320" height="240" style="border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 0;" alt="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" /></a></div><div
style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 15px;"></div><p>As 2008 wound to a close, not a single unit had sold.  Signs and online offers advertising units for rent began to pop up along side the still-listed units that were for sale.  Of course, this simply provided an even greater disincentive to any possible buyers.</p><p>By early 2009, the days of speculators gobbling up properties in hopes unloading on a greater fool for a massive profit were long gone, and Northshore had been left in the lurch.  Mastro finally completely gave up trying to sell the townhomes, and the entire complex became rentals.  According to a May <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/OPR20090515001333-1-34.pdf" title="Northshore Kenmore deed of trust (pdf)">deed of trust</a> (pdf) filed with King County, Mastro&#8217;s company owes $23.6 million on the property.  With <a
href="http://www.forrent.com/apartment-community-profile/1000055256.php" title="Northshore Townhomes on ForRent.com">rents at the complex</a> averaging around $1,700, it will take at least 30 years to pay off the construction (assuming 100% occupancy and ignoring maintenance costs and taxes).</p><div
style="float: left;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-gallery03.jpg" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-thumb03.jpg" width="320" height="240" style="border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 0;" alt="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" /></a></div><div
style="float: right;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-gallery04.jpg" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Northshore-Townhomes-thumb04.jpg" width="320" height="240" style="border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 0;" alt="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" title="Northshore Townhomes | Kenmore, WA" /></a></div><div
style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 15px;"></div><p>Today, <a
href="http://www.northshorekenmore.com/" title="Northshore Kenmore's old domain name">the ridiculous marketing website</a> has gone dark, the sandwich boards that used to proclaim &#8220;<a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/northshore-kenmore-sandwich-800.jpg" title="Northshore Kenmore sandwich board">NEW TOWNHOMES FROM $279K</a>&#8221; have new &#8220;<a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/now_leasing.jpg" title="Northshore Kenmore sandwich board (new and improved)">NOW LEASING</a>&#8221; labels taped over them, and the front door of the former sales center has a slot cut into it for the <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/rent-drop-large.jpg" title="Northshore Townhomes rent drop">rent drop</a>.  Renters are moving in, but with rents that average 16% higher (in terms of $/sqft) than <a
href="http://www.forrent.com/apartment-community-profile/1012873.php" title="The Timbers at Kenmore">other</a> nearby <a
href="http://www.forrent.com/apartment-community-profile/999903423.php" title="Inglewood Forest Apartments">apartments</a>, it&#8217;s no surprise that the complex is slow to fill up.</p><p>We recently <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/10/major-local-commercial-real-estate-developer-struggling/" title="Major Local Commercial Real Estate Developer Struggling">posted a link</a> to a <a
href="http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2009/07/13/story1.html?b=1247457600^1858386" title="Developer Mike Mastro’s troubles mount">Puget Sound Business Journal story</a> about Mike Mastro&#8217;s mounting financial troubles.  Kenmore&#8217;s Northshore Townhomes is just one example of Mastro&#8217;s major market miscalculation.  $24 million here, $10 million there, pretty soon you&#8217;re talking about some real money.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/23/northshore-townhomes-a-case-study-in-bubble-mania-development/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>48</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Cheapest Seattle Homes: July Edition</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/17/cheapest-seattle-homes-july-edition/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/17/cheapest-seattle-homes-july-edition/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:00:46 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheapest-homes]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6429</guid> <description><![CDATA[.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}
Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, hit the April post.
Please note: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<style>.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}</style><p>Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/" title="Cheapest Seattle Homes: April Edition">hit the April post</a>.</p><p><b>Please note</b>: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement or endorsement of any specific home for sale.  We are merely taking a brief snapshot of the market at a given time.  Also, just because a home makes it onto the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; list, does not indicate that it is a good value.</p><p>Here are this month&#8217;s three cheapest single-family homes in the city limits of Seattle (according to <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/" title="Search Seattle Homes">Redfin</a>):</p><table
class="CNNTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr
class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/8523-Dallas-Ave-S-98108/home/477350">8523 Dallas Ave S</a></td><td>$121,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>900</td><td>3,480 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2558/WA/Seattle/South-Park">South Park</a></td><td>$134</td><td>Bank-Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/3013-SW-Admiral-Way-98126/home/329272">3013 SW Admiral Way</a></td><td>$152,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>520</td><td>5,415 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1848/WA/Seattle/Admiral">Admiral</a></td><td>$292</td><td>Bank-Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Tukwila/10335-51st-Ave-S-98178/home/175432">10335 51st Ave S</a></td><td>$160,000</td><td>2</td><td>1.75</td><td>820</td><td>5,760 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2245/WA/Seattle/Rainier-Beach">Rainier Beach</a></td><td>$195</td><td>Short Sale</td></tr></table><p>June&#8217;s #2 home moved up to #1 this month with $30,000 in price cuts since it was last featured on these pages.  I don&#8217;t understand why nobody has snatched this place up yet, especially with such an amazing view:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 0 auto;"><iframe
width="600" height="240" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://maps.google.com/maps/sv?cbp=12,21.6,,0,9.85&amp;cbll=47.527057,-122.313763&amp;v=1&amp;panoid=&amp;gl=us&amp;hl="></iframe><br
/><small><a
id="cbembedlink" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?cbp=12,21.6,,0,9.85&#038;cbll=47.527057,-122.313763&#038;ll=47.527057,-122.313763&#038;layer=c" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small></p><p>But I digress.</p><p><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/10225-Evanston-Ave-N-98133/home/98507" title="10225 Evanston Ave N">April&#8217;s cheapest home</a> apparently sold in June for $140,000. <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/7525-14th-Ave-SW-98106/home/161089" title="7525 14th Ave SW">June&#8217;s #3 home</a> also sold, for $15,000 off the $155,000 listing price when it was featured here.</p><p><b>Stats snapshot for Seattle Single-Family Homes Under $200,000</b><br
/> Total on market: 44<br
/> Average number of beds: 2.1<br
/> Average number of baths: 1.2<br
/> Average square footage: 999<br
/> Average days on market: 78</p><p>Here are the three cheapest homes in terms of dollars per square foot:</p><table
class="CNNTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr
class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/5926-S-Eastwood-Dr-98178/home/177824">5926 S Eastwood Dr</a></td><td>$102</td><td>$249,950</td><td>4</td><td>2.75</td><td>2,450</td><td>6,000 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2247/WA/Seattle/Rainier-View">Rainier View</a></td><td>-</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/1400-NE-Brockman-Pl-98125/home/115661">1400 NE Brockman Pl</a></td><td>$104</td><td>$349,000</td><td>3</td><td>1.75</td><td>3,340</td><td>7,200 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1894/WA/Seattle/Northgate">Northgate</a></td><td>-</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9456-13th-Ave-SW-98106/home/11901240/nwmls-29075648">9456 13th Ave SW</a></td><td>$107</td><td>$320,711</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>3,000</td><td>5,009 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1246/WA/Seattle/Highland-Park">Highland Park</a></td><td>-</td></tr></table><p>One more bonus for you this month.  Here&#8217;s the lowest dollars per square foot on a house priced above $500,000: <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/2307-17th-Ave-S-98144/home/168142" title="2307 17th Ave S">2307 17th Ave S</a> at just $109 $/sqft.  $549,500, 6 beds, 4 baths, 5,020 square feet.  I love the Christmas decorations in the listing photos.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/17/cheapest-seattle-homes-july-edition/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>32</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Seattle-Area Housing Oversupply Still Increasing</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/13/seattle-area-housing-oversupply-still-increasing/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/13/seattle-area-housing-oversupply-still-increasing/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:41:07 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Statistics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[construction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[demand]]></category> <category><![CDATA[occupancy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[OFM]]></category> <category><![CDATA[supply]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6356</guid> <description><![CDATA[One set of data we like to check in on occasionally is the big picture of local housing supply and demand, measured by comparing the total number of housing units to the total number of households.  You may recall the last time we checked in on this data back in March: Local Housing Oversupply [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One set of data we like to check in on occasionally is the big picture of local housing supply and demand, measured by comparing the total number of housing units to the total number of households.  You may recall the last time we checked in on this data back in March: <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/03/19/local-housing-oversupply-could-disappear-by-july-2010/" title="Local Housing Oversupply Could Disappear by July 2010...">Local Housing Oversupply Could Disappear by July 2010&#8230;</a></p><blockquote><p>Good news everyone!</p><p>The latest population estimates for King County have been <a
href="http://www.census.gov/popest/estimates.html" title="US Census Bureau Population Estimates">released by the Census Bureau</a>, and at the present rate of population growth, we’ll be able to use up all of our <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/11/05/housing-shortage-or-overbuilt%E2%80%94a-new-look-at-supply-and-demand/" title="Housing Shortage or Overbuilt—A New Look at Supply and Demand">excess housing inventory</a> by July of next year&#8230;</p><p>&#8230;<strong>if</strong> all residential construction across the county completely ceased after July 2008, that is.</p></blockquote><p>Our previous excursions into this data have been based on Census Bureau estimates, which are unfortunately not very timely.  However, the Washington State Office of Financial Management keeps its own sets of estimates which are much more current.  In fact, <a
href="http://www.ofm.wa.gov/pop/april1/default.asp" title="OFM: Official April 1, 2009 Population Estimates">their latest release a few weeks ago</a> provides data through April of this year.</p><p>Here&#8217;s an updated chart of housing supply (total housing units) and demand (total households) for the 3-county Puget Sound region, indexed to 2000:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-King-Sno-Pierce_2009.png" title="Puget Sound Housing Supply &#038; Demand"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-King-Sno-Pierce_2009-600x435.png" title="Puget Sound County Housing Supply &#038; Demand - Click to enlarge" alt="Puget Sound County Housing Supply &#038; Demand" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>Across King, Snohomish, and Pierce counties, a total of 147,591 new households have been added since 2000.  During the same time, 184,378 new housing units have been built, amounting to an oversupply of 36,787 housing units.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a look at the raw number of housing units and households that were added to the region each year:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-Yearly-King-Sno-Pierce_2009.png" title="Puget Sound Housing Supply &#038; Demand"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-Yearly-King-Sno-Pierce_2009-600x435.png" title="Puget Sound County Housing Supply &#038; Demand - Click to enlarge" alt="Puget Sound County Housing Supply &#038; Demand" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>Only 2004 and 2005 had people moving here faster than new housing stock was coming online, and 2006 more than made up for the discrepancy in short order.</p><p>Here&#8217;s the indexed chart for King County only:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-King_2009.png" title="King Housing Supply &#038; Demand"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-King_2009-600x435.png" title="King County Housing Supply &#038; Demand - Click to enlarge" alt="King County Housing Supply &#038; Demand" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>In King County, we&#8217;ve added 65,443 households and 90,157 housing units over the past nine years, for a total oversupply of 24,714 housing units.</p><p>Here&#8217;s the year-by-year chart for King County:</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-Yearly-King_2009.png" title="King Housing Supply &#038; Demand"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Supply-Demand-OFM-Yearly-King_2009-600x435.png" title="King County Housing Supply &#038; Demand - Click to enlarge" alt="King County Housing Supply &#038; Demand" width="600" height="435"></a></p><p>Here in King, only 2005 saw a larger addition of households than housing units.  Even between 2008 and 2009, 3,304 more housing units were added than new households.</p><p>So it would seem that rather than working through our local housing oversupply, we&#8217;re still <em>adding to</em> it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/13/seattle-area-housing-oversupply-still-increasing/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>42</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Drive by sign of the times</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/10/drive-by-sign-of-the-times/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/10/drive-by-sign-of-the-times/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:12:16 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>S-Crow</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[anecdote]]></category> <category><![CDATA[builders]]></category> <category><![CDATA[developers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[foreclosures]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6317</guid> <description><![CDATA[
Everyday for well over a year I drive by this development hovering over Hwy 2 as you head eastbound to Lake Stevens or Snohomish.   I noticed this one lonely house (with paint all over it) with a tree surrounded by vacant lots.  Late this afternoon on my way home from the office in Everett I [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p
style="width: 600px; margin: 0 auto 15px;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Hwy-2-pic.JPG"><img
style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Hwy-2-pic-600x450.jpg" alt="Hwy 2 pic" width="600" height="450" /></a></p><p>Everyday for well over a year I drive by this development hovering over Hwy 2 as you head eastbound to Lake Stevens or Snohomish.   I noticed this one lonely house (with paint all over it) with a tree surrounded by vacant lots.  Late this afternoon on my way home from the office in Everett I decided to drive by (pics below).  I had no idea what was painted on this house until I drove right next to it.   While a few may find humor in this, I do not.  Sign of the times.</p><p>This morning I attended the Snohomish Co. foreclosure auction at the county courthouse and spoke with Kathy, an older woman who is a seasoned investor of these auctions.   She indicated to me that about 90% of the sales are going back to the lender and will come back on the market as REO at a future date.   I left at 11:30 am and I only witnessed one home (of scores on the dockets) being sold.  All the other sales up to that point were delayed, postponed or went back to the Beneficiary (lender) if the bid start price was too high for any investor to bid on&mdash;generally the bank buys it back for what is owed on the first mortgage.</p><p>I think purchasing an REO (bank owned) property could be more appealing to a buyer looking to get a good buy vs. a foreclosure.  There are a lot of risks in buying a foreclosure.  For example, it is rare to be able to inspect the interior.  The home could also be trashed by the owner just hours or days prior to the sale.</p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 0 auto 15px;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/hwy2-pic-closer.jpg"><img
style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/hwy2-pic-closer-600x450.jpg" alt="hwy2 pic closer" width="600" height="450" /></a></p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 0 auto 15px;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/neighbor.JPG"><img
style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/neighbor-600x450.jpg" alt="neighbor" width="600" height="450" /></a></p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 0 auto 15px;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/hwy-2-house.jpg"><img
style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/hwy-2-house-600x450.jpg" alt="hwy 2 house" width="600" height="450" /></a></p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 0 auto 15px;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Hwy-2-collage.JPG"><img
style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Hwy-2-collage-600x450.jpg" alt="Hwy 2 collage" width="600" height="450" /></a></p><p
style="width: 600px; margin: 0 auto 15px;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/model-home.JPG"><img
style="border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 0 auto;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/model-home-600x450.jpg" alt="model home" width="600" height="450" /></a></p><p>On the gable over the windows is writing that says, &#8220;Model Home.&#8221;   You can barely see it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/10/drive-by-sign-of-the-times/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>14</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Stalled Development Map Update, Developments in Foreclosure</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/09/stalled-development-map-update-developments-in-foreclosure/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/09/stalled-development-map-update-developments-in-foreclosure/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[News]]></category> <category><![CDATA[builders]]></category> <category><![CDATA[construction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[foreclosures]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Google]]></category> <category><![CDATA[maps]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Pryne]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Seattle_Times]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6280</guid> <description><![CDATA[Just a quick update on the Seattle Bubble interactive stalled / slow development map.
So far readers have contributed 48 stalled and/or slowed residential developments in the greater Seattle area.  The greatest concentration by far is in the Bothell area, which may be due primarily to the fact that that&#8217;s where a few especially prolific [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick update on the <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&#038;msa=0&#038;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258" title="Google Maps: Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction">Seattle Bubble interactive stalled / slow development map</a>.</p><p>So far readers have contributed 48 stalled and/or slowed residential developments in the greater Seattle area.  The greatest concentration by far is in the Bothell area, which may be due primarily to the fact that that&#8217;s where a few especially prolific contributors live (including myself).</p><p>Again, anyone can contribute to this map, just <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&#038;msa=0&#038;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258" title="Google Maps: Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction">load it up in Google</a> and add the stalled / slowed residential construction sites (SFH or condo) near you.</p><p>In related news, Eric Pryne over at the Seattle Times has a story up today about one of the larger stalled developments in the Bothell / Kirkland area that has been foreclosed on: <a
href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2009436065_conner09.html" title="Seattle-area homebuilder losing projects to foreclosure ">Seattle-area homebuilder losing projects to foreclosure </a>.</p><blockquote><p>One of the Seattle area&#8217;s most prominent homebuilders has lost most of one new Eastside housing development to foreclosure, and expects to lose another big property.</p><p>Most of Conner Homes&#8217; upscale, partly built Bentley subdivision in Bothell was sold at auction last month after the company defaulted on a $24.8 million loan, county records indicate.</p><p>Another auction has been scheduled in October for 35 acres Conner owns and once planned to develop in North Bend. The builder hasn&#8217;t made loan payments on that land since at least December, according to a foreclosure notice filed with the county last week.</p></blockquote><p>For anyone interested, I pulled the foreclosure notices off the <a
href="http://www.kingcounty.gov/business/Recorders/RecordsSearch.aspx" title="King County Recorder's Office">King County Records website</a>.  Here&#8217;s the <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/OPR20090318001772-1-9.pdf" title="Conner Homes notice of trustee sale">foreclosure notice for the Bothell / Kirkland development</a> (pdf), and here&#8217;s <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/OPR20090702001810-1-6.pdf" title="Conner Homes notice of trustee sale">the one for North Bend</a> (pdf).  I guess someone forgot to tell Conner Homes that <a
href="http://www.seattlepi.com/local/399422_housesales10.html" title="Agent predicts housing slump's demise">the bottom was in February</a>.</p><p>Below is the current stalled development map.  Please feel free to keep adding to it.  FYI, I&#8217;m planning on doing a bit of a redesign to the site in the not-too-distant future, after which features such as this map will have a more accessible permanent home.</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 662px;"><iframe
width="660" height="775" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258&amp;ll=47.661688,-122.200000&amp;spn=0.554953,0.823975&amp;z=10&amp;output=embed"></iframe><br
/><small>View <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258&amp;ll=47.661688,-122.200000&amp;spn=0.554953,0.823975&amp;z=10&amp;source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction</a> in a larger map</small></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/09/stalled-development-map-update-developments-in-foreclosure/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>42</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>125% Refinance: Pricing You IN for a Decade or More</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/02/125-refinance-pricing-you-in-for-a-decade-or-more/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/02/125-refinance-pricing-you-in-for-a-decade-or-more/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:20:27 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Fannie]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Financing]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Freddie]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mortgages]]></category> <category><![CDATA[refinancing]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6166</guid> <description><![CDATA[Astute readers have no doubt have learned by now of yesterday&#8217;s announcement by HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan that the federal government&#8217;s &#8220;Making Home Affordable&#8221; plan will now allow mortgages owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to be refinanced with loan-to-value ratios of up to 125%.
I won&#8217;t go into all the details of [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astute readers have no doubt have learned by now of yesterday&#8217;s announcement by HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan that the federal government&#8217;s &#8220;Making Home Affordable&#8221; plan will now allow mortgages owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to be refinanced with loan-to-value ratios of up to 125%.</p><p>I won&#8217;t go into all the details of the announcement since you can find good coverage of the changes <a
href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/realestatenews/archives/172722.asp" title="Feds to refinance mortgages up to 125 percent of value">over at the P-I</a> or <a
href="http://www.raincityguide.com/2009/07/01/fhfa-gives-the-green-light-for-125-ltvs-on-harp-refis/" title="FHFA Gives the Green Light for 125% LTVs on HARP Refi’s">Rain City Guide</a>.  Instead, I thought it would be interesting to see what the long-term financial picture might look like for someone who plans to take advantage of this program.</p><p>Let&#8217;s take a look at some hypothetical home borrowers who currently owe $400,000 in various mortgages with difficult terms or high rates, and whose home is presently worth $320,000.  They jump on the new FHFA Home Affordable Refinance Program and refinance into a single 30-year fixed-rate loan at a 5.75% interest rate with a 125% loan-to-value ratio.</p><p>I hope that our hypothetical couple doesn&#8217;t want to move any time in the next 13 years, because under a relatively optimistic home value appreciation scenario that&#8217;s how long it will take before they will be able to sell without bringing money to the table:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
title="125% Loan-to-Value Home Refinance" href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/125-pct-mort-a.png"><img
style="border: 0; margin: 5px" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/125-pct-mort-a-600x348.png" title="125% Loan-to-Value Home Refinance" alt="125% Loan-to-Value Home Refinance" width="600" height="348" /></a></p><p>Note that the home sale proceeds line assumes paying 6% of the sale price to real estate agents, as well as an additional 2% to account for excise taxes and other costs of selling.  You can also <a
title="125% Mortgage Spreadsheet" href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/downloads/125-pct-Mortgage.xls">download the spreadsheet</a> I used to create these charts and tweak the values yourself.</p><p>With the home value appreciation tweaked to a slightly less rosy scenario, it takes 17 years before our couple can break even selling their house:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
title="125% Loan-to-Value Home Refinance" href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/125-pct-mort-b.png"><img
style="border: 0; margin: 5px" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/125-pct-mort-b-600x348.png" title="125% Loan-to-Value Home Refinance" alt="125% Loan-to-Value Home Refinance" width="600" height="348" /></a></p><p>According to <a
href="http://www.census.gov/prod/3/98pubs/p70-66.pdf" title="Census Bureau: Seasonality of Moves and Duration of Residence">a 1993 study by the Census Bureau</a> (pdf) only ~10% of home owners stayed in one house for over ten years. <a
href="http://www.jchs.harvard.edu/publications/homeownership/liho01-12.pdf" title="Joint Center for Housing Studies: The Social Benefits and Costs of Homeownership">A 2001 study</a> (pdf) by the NAR-funded Joint Center for Housing Studies put the median length of home ownership at 8.2 years.  Refinancing one&#8217;s home into a 30-year loan for 125% of the house&#8217;s value will most likely lock the borrower into their present home for a period of time longer than 90% of people usually stay in their homes.</p><p>If the goal of this new 125% loan-to-value program is to financially imprison people in their current homes for a decade or more, then it looks like it could be a rousing success.  However, I&#8217;m not sure how many currently struggling home borrowers would really consider that to be much of a &#8220;help.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/07/02/125-refinance-pricing-you-in-for-a-decade-or-more/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>145</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Neighbors Paid WHAT?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/29/the-neighbors-paid-what/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/29/the-neighbors-paid-what/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[new_homes]]></category> <category><![CDATA[walk away]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6099</guid> <description><![CDATA[In our discussion this weekend about why people would walk away from a mortgage, even though they can afford to continue paying, Tim Kane (S-Crow) pointed out:
It doesn’t take much emotional pull to consider walking away when you see property being purchased across the street for $150,000+ less than what you may have purchased your [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our discussion this weekend about why people would walk away from a mortgage, even though they can afford to continue paying, Tim Kane (S-Crow) <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/28/poll-do-you-personally-know-someone-who-has-walked-away-from-a-mortgage-they-could-afford-to-pay/#comment-76853" title="Comment by Tim Kane">pointed out</a>:</p><blockquote><p>It doesn’t take much emotional pull to consider walking away when you see property being purchased across the street for $150,000+ less than what you may have purchased your place for in 2006 and it costing substantially less to cover the monthly payment at today’s market prices. This is more prevalent in newer developments and I would guess can make for interesting neighbor to neighbor discussions.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I spent a little time on Redfin looking at some new construction homes for sale, and it didn&#8217;t take long for me to find some examples similar to Tim&#8217;s hypothetical scenario:</p><hr
style="border: 1px solid #000000; clear: both; margin-top: 0px;" /> <img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Camwest-Aspen.jpg" title="Camwest &quot;Aspen&quot;" alt="Camwest &quot;Aspen&quot;" style="border:1px solid #000000; float: right; margin: 5px 0 5px 10px;" width="175" height="147" /><b>Development:</b> <a
href="http://www.camwest.com/WF/community/community.asp?commid=1037" rel="nofollow">Camwest “Tambark Springs”</a><br
/> <b>Floorplan:</b> ~1,700 sqft, 3-bed, 2.5-bath “Aspen” <em>(pictured at right)</em><br
/> <b>Past sales:</b><ul
style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom: 0; "><li><a
href="http://web5.co.snohomish.wa.us/propsys/Asr-Tr-PropInq/PrpInq02-ParcelData.asp?PN=01058000000200" rel="nofollow">Nov. &#8216;06 @ $395,808</a></li><li><a
href="http://web5.co.snohomish.wa.us/propsys/Asr-Tr-PropInq/PrpInq02-ParcelData.asp?PN=01058000003600" title="Parcel Number 01058000003600" rel="nofollow">Feb. &#8216;07 @ $403,950</a></li><li><a
href="http://web5.co.snohomish.wa.us/propsys/Asr-Tr-PropInq/PrpInq02-ParcelData.asp?PN=01058000003200" rel="nofollow">May &#8216;07 @ $396,975</a></li></ul><p><b>New units’ current asking price:</b> <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Bothell/3610-183rd-Pl-SE-98012/home/12176985" rel="nofollow">$319,950</a> (~20% off)</p><hr
style="border: 1px solid #000000; clear: both;" /> <img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Camwest-Renton.jpg" title="Camwest home" alt="Camwest home" style="border:1px solid #000000; float: right; margin: 5px 0 5px 10px;" width="175" height="147" /><b>Development:</b> <a
href="http://www.camwest.com/WF/community/community.asp?commid=1034" rel="nofollow">Camwest “Shamrock Heights”</a><br
/> <b>Floorplan:</b> ~2,500 sqft, 3-bed, 2.5-bath <em>(pictured at right)</em><br
/> <b>Past sales:</b><ul
style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom: 0; "><li><a
href="http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=7708200550">Jul. &#8216;06 @ $563,950</a></li><li><a
href="http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=7708200930">Oct. &#8216;06 @ $564,950</a></li><li><a
href="http://www5.kingcounty.gov/kcgisreports/property_report.aspx?PIN=7708200910">Apr. &#8216;07 @ $543,000</a></li></ul><p><b>New units’ current asking price:</b> <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Unknown/Unknown-Unknown/home/12303666">$459,950</a> (~19% off)</p><hr
style="border: 1px solid #000000; clear: both; margin-bottom: 15px;" /><p>In the first example above, if we (very generously) assume that the folks that bought in ‘06 and ‘07 had 20% down payments and got 30-year fixed-rate mortgages at the going rates at the time, their payments would presently be around $2,400.  Today’s buyer with the same sized down payment would have a monthly payment around $1,700.</p><p>That’s a ~30% difference in payments.   The &#8216;06-&#8217;07 buyers are spending $8,400 a year more for the same house as their neighbors.  I imagine most people can think of lots of things they’d rather do with $8,400 a year than to continuously pay for a poor decision they made years ago.</p><p>There are tens of thousands of buyers around Seattle who bought at or near the peak with little to no money down. Many of them even got a mortgage that they can technically afford (got ramen?). At the time they bought, it made sense to them to squeeze their budget, because they bought into the notion that if they didn’t get something right away, they would be <a
href="http://pricedoutforever.com/" title="Priced Out Forever!"><strong>priced out forever</strong></a>.</p><p>Every month that these peak buyers spend in their peak-purchased house they’re basically &#8220;throwing away&#8221; hundreds (sometimes thousands) of dollars. Selling isn’t an option, because they owe so much more than the home would sell for. Walking away starts to make sense.</p><p>I’m not saying I necessarily recommend walking away as a course of action (or that I don’t), but I can absolutely understand the rationale, especially when you&#8217;re in a situation like the above examples, where people buying the <em>exact same house</em> today are paying thousands less per year.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/29/the-neighbors-paid-what/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>49</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Mapping Stalled / Slow Construction Around Seattle</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/23/mapping-stalled-slow-construction-around-seattle/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/23/mapping-stalled-slow-construction-around-seattle/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:36:02 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[builders]]></category> <category><![CDATA[construction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Google]]></category> <category><![CDATA[maps]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=6025</guid> <description><![CDATA[With the housing downturn in full swing, it&#8217;s interesting how many housing developments have slowed to a near stop or stalled completely.  I&#8217;ve begun mapping out some of these fallow construction sites in the areas that I frequent (north King / south Snohomish), and I thought it would be interesting to open the process [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the housing downturn in full swing, it&#8217;s interesting how many housing developments have slowed to a near stop or stalled completely.  I&#8217;ve begun mapping out some of these fallow construction sites in the areas that I frequent (north King / south Snohomish), and I thought it would be interesting to open the process up and make it a group project.</p><p>Below you will find the map that I have started.  If you&#8217;d like to contribute some stalled residential construction sites (SFH or condo) in your area, just sign into your Google account then <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&#038;msa=0&#038;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258" title="Google Maps: Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction">head to this link</a>, click &#8220;Edit&#8221; on the left side of the page, and begin adding your markers.</p><p>At present, the map is open for anyone with a Google account to edit freely.  I only ask that you not modify existing points added by others and that you follow roughly the same format that I have used on the starting points, which includes location, size (# of units), builder, status, and if possible, a picture.</p><p>If we all work together, I think we can create something that will be pretty interesting.</p><p
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width="660" height="700" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" style="border: 1px solid #000000;" src="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258&amp;ll=47.661688,-122.259979&amp;spn=0.554953,0.823975&amp;z=10&amp;output=embed"></iframe><br
/><small>View <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=108880603054360341047.00046c8fb51e0fa5c5258&amp;ll=47.661688,-122.259979&amp;spn=0.554953,0.823975&amp;z=10&amp;source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">Stalled/Slow Seattle Construction</a> in a larger map</small></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/23/mapping-stalled-slow-construction-around-seattle/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>31</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Potential Pitfalls to Watch for at Real Estate Auctions</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/17/potential-pitfalls-to-watch-for-at-real-estate-auctions/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/17/potential-pitfalls-to-watch-for-at-real-estate-auctions/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:49:19 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[advertisors]]></category> <category><![CDATA[auction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Lumen]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5984</guid> <description><![CDATA[A reader emailed me to inquire about the Lumen Condos auction that is currently being advertised on our sidebar, asking whether there are any &#8220;catches&#8221; or &#8220;gotchas&#8221; that aren&#8217;t easy to spot.
Auctions like this usually have a few things that might be described as &#8220;gotchas.&#8221; Here are a few things to look out for:Minimum prices [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader emailed me to inquire about the Lumen Condos auction that is currently being advertised on our sidebar, asking whether there are any &#8220;catches&#8221; or &#8220;gotchas&#8221; that aren&#8217;t easy to spot.</p><p>Auctions like this usually have a few things that might be described as &#8220;gotchas.&#8221; Here are a few things to look out for:</p><ul><li>Minimum prices that may or may not be stated beforehand (e.g. &#8211; bidding starts at $50,000, but really they won&#8217;t let the unit go for less than $150,000).</li><li>Seller usually reserves the right to end the auction at any time without prior notice, so if you show up and are hoping to bid on a unit near the end of the auction you may not get the chance.  I know this happened at the Seventeen07 auction back in October, when they held back the last few units due to low bidding volume.</li><li>They may require financing through a specific bank or the builder.</li></ul><p>With respect to the above list, the <a
href="http://www.lumencondosauction.com/terms_conditions.pdf" title="Lumen auction terms and conditions (pdf)">terms and conditions for the Lumen auction</a> state the following:</p><ul><li>&#8220;The Seller has established a minimum selling price (Published Reserve) for each property to be auctioned. No bid below the published reserve will be recognized by the Auctioneer. There are no Buyer’s Premiums or Hidden Reserves.&#8221;</li><li>&#8220;The Seller has the right to postpone or cancel the Auction in whole or in part in its sole discretion.&#8221;</li><li>&#8220;All auction bidders are required to be pre-qualified with Seller&#8217;s Designated Lender prior to the Auction, including those bidders who wish to use another lender for their purchase, and bidders who will pay cash for their purchase.&#8221;</li></ul><p>Also important to note is the clause that the seller reserves the right &#8220;to modify or add any terms and conditions of sale and to announce such modifications or additional terms and conditions either prior to or at the Auction.&#8221;</p><p>If you are thinking about buying a home at auction, I suggest attending 2-3 such auctions to get an idea of how things work and whether or not things tend to sell for prices that you think are reasonable.</p><p>The firms running these auctions are happy to provide all the fine print details about the auction to you beforehand.  If you get them and there are parts you don&#8217;t understand, you may consider hiring a real estate attorney to review them and explain them to you.</p><p>Furthermore, I received an email today from the Lumen auction folks about a &#8220;pre-auction seminar&#8221; they will be holding on July 1st:</p><blockquote><p>On Wednesday July 1, 2009 LUMEN will hold a pre-auction seminar for interested buyers of the remaining 19 new condos available in one of Seattle’s most unique developments. Potential homebuyers will have the opportunity to tour available condos, learn techniques for buying at auction, participate in a mock auction, pre-qualify with the seller’s designated lender and pre-register for the <a
href="http://www.lumencondosauction.com/">LUMEN public auction</a> to be held July 11.</p><p><strong>What:</strong> LUMEN “How to Buy” pre-auction seminar and registration<br
/> <strong>When:</strong> Wednesday, July 1, 2009 at 7 P.M.<br
/> <strong>Where:</strong> LUMEN Lounge, 501 Roy Street, Seattle, WA 98109</p></blockquote><p>Obviously the underlying purpose of this event is to get buyers interested and excited to buy the condos, but it would probably still be a good idea to attend if you are thinking of going to the auction.</p><p>The question of whether or not the Lumen condo auction or any other real estate auction represents a good buying opportunity for you depends entirely on your unique finances, priorities, and tolerance for risk.  As with any real estate purchase, the best thing you can do is take your time, do your research, and don&#8217;t rush into a decision based on emotion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/17/potential-pitfalls-to-watch-for-at-real-estate-auctions/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>33</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Revisiting Jim Cramer&#8217;s 2007 Prediction for Seattle Real Estate</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/17/revisiting-jim-cramers-2007-prediction-for-seattle-real-estate/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/17/revisiting-jim-cramers-2007-prediction-for-seattle-real-estate/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:36:58 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Cramer]]></category> <category><![CDATA[predictions]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5968</guid> <description><![CDATA[Jim Cramer, September 2007:
Don’t you dare buy a home now. You will lose money.
[Real estate agents complain, insist that real estate is regional, and there are some places where it is a good time to buy.  Cramer responds...]
Seattle, and 10005 are the only two. Maybe Montgomery County in Maryland. Three. That’s it.
So, according to [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/cramer-bobblehead-sm.jpg" alt="Jim Cramer" title="Jim Cramer" width="130" height="200" style="float:right; border:0;" /><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/10/01/cramer-vs-shiller-is-seattle-immune/" title="Cramer vs. Shiller: Is Seattle Immune?">Jim Cramer, September 2007</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Don’t you dare buy a home now. You will lose money.</p><p><em>[Real estate agents complain, insist that real estate is regional, and there are some places where it is a good time to buy.  Cramer responds...]</em></p><p>Seattle, and 10005 are the only two. Maybe Montgomery County in Maryland. Three. That’s it.</p></blockquote><p>So, according to Jim Cramer, September 2007 was a good time to buy a home in Seattle.  Everywhere else, home buyers were setting themselves up to lose money, but not in Seattle.</p><p>Let&#8217;s have a quick check on how that&#8217;s turning out.</p><blockquote><p><b>September 2007</b><br
/> King County median SFH price: $450,000<br
/> YOY appreciation: +5.9%</p><p><b>May 2009</b> <em>(20 months later)</em><br
/> King County median SFH price: $375,000<br
/> YOY appreciation: -14.8%<br
/> Total price change: -16.7%</p></blockquote><p>Whoops.  And for those of you keeping score at home, the drop in Seattle&#8217;s Case-Shiller HPI was even more steep, falling 22.2% from September 2007 through March 2009 (the latest data available).  In other words, if you bought a Seattle-area home in September 2007 with 20% down, your &#8220;investment&#8221; is now most likely completely gone.</p><p>Not that anyone really thought that Jim Cramer had any credibility (anymore/ever) anyway, but it&#8217;s certainly entertaining to revisit proclamations like this once in a while.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/17/revisiting-jim-cramers-2007-prediction-for-seattle-real-estate/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>15</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>How-To Sell Your Home: Deep Clean to Make Your House Shine</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/15/how-to-sell-your-home-deep-clean-to-make-your-house-shine/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/15/how-to-sell-your-home-deep-clean-to-make-your-house-shine/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:39:44 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[advice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buyer's market]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cleaning]]></category> <category><![CDATA[how-to]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sellers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[staging]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5946</guid> <description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago we kicked off a new series: How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market with an overview of the important factors that home sellers must address if they want to succeed in selling their homes in today&#8217;s market:Pricing
Marketing
Cleaning
ExtrasRather than tackling these in the above order of priority, we&#8217;re going to hit [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago we kicked off a new series: <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/21/how-to-sell-your-home-in-a-down-market/" title="How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market">How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market</a> with an overview of the important factors that home sellers must address if they want to succeed in selling their homes in today&#8217;s market:</p><ol><li>Pricing</li><li>Marketing</li><li>Cleaning</li><li>Extras</li></ol><p>Rather than tackling these in the above order of priority, we&#8217;re going to hit them in chronological order.  Therefore, today we&#8217;re going to take a closer look at the first thing you should do when you decide you are serious about selling your house: cleaning.</p><p>If you really want to sell your house, you&#8217;re going to have to do a lot more than just vacuum the floors and dust the shelves.  A proper pre-sale cleaning is a thorough deep-clean of the inside and outside.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a good starting checklist for your pre-sale cleaning:</p><ul><li>Steam-clean the carpets and/or buff/shine the hardwood floors.</li><li>Take everything off the walls and wash them.</li><li>If it&#8217;s been more than a few years since the interior has been painted or if you have any walls that are &#8220;bold&#8221; colors, put on a fresh coat of paint in a neutral color.</li><li>Pressure-wash the roof (edit: use caution or another method if your roof is asphalt shingles).</li><li>Put on a fresh coat of exterior paint or pressure-wash the siding.</li><li>Manicure the landscaping: pull the weeds, mow the lawn, prune the bushes &amp; trees, kill anything growing in your driveway or sidewalks, put down some fresh mulch around the bushes and flowers.</li><li>Clean every window, inside and out.</li><li>Clean out the gutters.</li><li>Thoroughly clean inside and out any appliances that stay (oven, fridge, etc.)</li><li>Take down and wash any light fixtures with dust / dead bug buildup.</li><li>De-clutter and simplify every room.</li></ul><p>You can do these things yourself, or hire a professional.  Either way you will probably be spending between a few hundred and a few thousand dollars, but by presenting a high-quality product you will be reducing the buyer&#8217;s ability (and desire) to negotiate a lower price.</p><p>Pay special attention to maximizing your &#8220;curb appeal&#8221; through pre-sale cleaning.  The first impression your house makes on the potential buyer will set the mood for their entire viewing.  You want a house that says &#8220;you would be proud to live here&#8221; from the moment they drive up.</p><p>It is also impossible to over-stress the importance of de-cluttering.  A lot has been made recently of &#8220;home staging&#8221; to improve a home&#8217;s chances of selling.  Paying a professional home stager is the easiest way to de-clutter your home, but you can accomplish much of the same results by doing a few simple things on your own:</p><ul><li>Take down all personal decorations: family photos, etc.</li><li>Eliminate any furniture that looks old or &#8220;eclectic&#8221;</li><li>Sparsely furnish each room, making sure that all furniture and decor fits the overall &#8220;feel&#8221;</li></ul><p>If you&#8217;re the DIY type, the best way to prepare the interior of your house may be to go through the house one room at a time and completely empty the room, clean the floors, paint the walls, then &#8220;stage&#8221; it per the suggestions above.</p><p>The end result of a thorough inside and out deep-cleaning will be a house that looks great in pictures, and makes potential buyers say &#8220;wow&#8221; when they see it in person.  If you truly want to get the best price possible for your home, do not put it on the market until you have achieved the &#8220;wow factor.&#8221;</p><p><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.2em;">How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market</span></p><ul><li>Introduction: <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/21/how-to-sell-your-home-in-a-down-market/" title="How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market">How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market</a></li><li><strong>Deep Clean to Make Your House Shine</strong></li><li><em>Pricing Your House</em></li><li><em>Marketing Your House</em></li><li><em>Extras to Sell Your House</em></li></ul> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/15/how-to-sell-your-home-deep-clean-to-make-your-house-shine/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>24</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Consequences of a Market Full of Monthly Payment Buyers</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-consequences-of-a-market-full-of-monthly-payment-buyers/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-consequences-of-a-market-full-of-monthly-payment-buyers/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:26:34 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Financing]]></category> <category><![CDATA[homebuying]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Interest Rates]]></category> <category><![CDATA[monthly-payment]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5927</guid> <description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a brief quote from a post that appeared here in 2006 titled The Monthly Payment Buyer:
In my opinion, it’s no wonder that home prices have gotten so out of whack with true fundamentals, when the first question someone asks in the home buying process is not “Is this house worth $XXX,000?” but rather “Can [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a brief quote from a post that appeared here in 2006 titled <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2006/11/15/the-monthly-payment-buyer/" title="The Monthly Payment Buyer">The Monthly Payment Buyer</a>:</p><blockquote><p>In my opinion, it’s no wonder that home prices have gotten so out of whack with true fundamentals, when the first question someone asks in the home buying process is not “Is this house worth $XXX,000?” but rather “Can I afford $X,000 per month (no matter what kind of financing it takes)?” Obviously a monthly payment must be affordable, but should that really be the sole determining factor in whether a house is worth buying?</p></blockquote><p>With interest rates bouncing up in the last few weeks from their artificial lows in the 4s, it&#8217;s interesting to consider how this might affect the housing market.</p><p>Following is a chart that shows how the monthly payment (principal + interest only) on a $350,000 mortgage grows as interest rates rise:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
title="Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Payment" href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mortgage-payments-rates.png"><img
style="border: 0;" title="Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Payment - Click to enlarge" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mortgage-payments-rates-600x435.png" alt="Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Payments" width="600" height="435" /></a></p><p>Since most people are still &#8220;monthly payment buyers&#8221; when it comes to buying real estate, perhaps more informative is the following chart, which shows how much mortgage a fixed $1,750 payment (principal + interest only) buys as interest rates rise:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
title="Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Size" href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mortgage-size-rates.png"><img
style="border: 0;" title="Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Size - Click to enlarge" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mortgage-size-rates-600x435.png" alt="Effect of Rising Interest Rates on Mortgage Size" width="600" height="435" /></a></p><p>A mere 1-point jump in interest rates from 4.5% to 5.5% drops the amount that can be afforded by over 10%.  Another 1-point jump up to 6.5%&mdash;a rate considered great just a few years ago&mdash;knocks another 10% off.</p><p>If suddenly everyone in the buying pool can afford 10% less for a home, what effect do you suppose that might have on prices?</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/12/the-consequences-of-a-market-full-of-monthly-payment-buyers/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>52</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Reader Story: Buying a Bank-Owned Home</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/10/reader-story-buying-a-bank-owned-home/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/10/reader-story-buying-a-bank-owned-home/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:09:57 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[anecdote]]></category> <category><![CDATA[foreclosures]]></category> <category><![CDATA[reader_stories]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5901</guid> <description><![CDATA[Tomorrow we&#8217;ll have the monthly foreclosure report for May, but today here&#8217;s a comment left by &#8220;Ross&#8221; in the reporting roundup last week that deserves to be highlighted.  Ross recounts his experience attempting to buy a bank-owned (i.e. &#8211; foreclosed) home:
On a foreclose property I was watching, here’s my experience:Last purchase price (2006) &#8211; [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomorrow we&#8217;ll have the monthly foreclosure report for May, but today here&#8217;s <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/05/may-reporting-roundup-you-have-missed-the-bottom-or-not/#comment-75030" title="Comment by Ross">a comment left by &#8220;Ross&#8221;</a> in the reporting roundup last week that deserves to be highlighted.  Ross recounts his experience attempting to buy a bank-owned (i.e. &#8211; foreclosed) home:</p><blockquote><p>On a foreclose property I was watching, here’s my experience:</p><ul><li>Last purchase price (2006) &#8211; $550K</li><li>Loan amount &#8211; $495K<li>Estimated peak pricing &#8211; ~$600K.</li><li>Property foreclosed in August 2008 to bank.</li><li>Local broker starts marketing the property in Sept 2008, initial price @ $550K. He specializes in BPO/REO sales.</li><li>I noticed the property, and since I rented on the same street, knew the area. But $550K was too overpriced.</li><li>Price drops approx ~$25K &#8211; $50K every month, usually around the 10th of the month.</li><li>By December, price is $425K.</li><li>Jan 09 price is $390K, we offer $300K on Feb 2. Bank rejects the price. We counter @ $325K, bank agains rejects the price with little explanation (’too low’).</li><li>Feb price drops to $375K, we re-offer $325K. Bank rejects.</li><li>March, price drop to $350K, we again re-offer $325K, Bank counters at $340K. We stay firm at $325K and tell them our next offer will be lower (which gets the listing agent really upset and writes a slightly nasty reply that we’re behind the curve and the price is amazing blah blah blah).</li><li>April, price drops to $325K, we again offer $325K and think we’re a shoe-in this time. However, before accepting our offer, bank pulls the listing and sends property to be auctioned at a REDC auction (www.auction.com) taking place in early May.</li><li>We attend auction in early May at the Meydenbauer center, and win the property for <del
datetime="2009-06-10T19:26:33+00:00">370K</del> [correction: $270k] + 5% premium (going to the auction house), “subject to seller confirmation”. We place 5% non refundable earnest money (cashier’s check) and wait for “confirmation.”</li><li>After approx. 3 weeks, and no response, our buyer’s agent lets us know the property is back on the market at 325K, and apparently this is our auction rejection notice.</li><li>We re-offer 325K for the property and this time get acceptance in principal.</li><li>Now comes the one-sided buyer’s addendum with a whole bunch of gotchas: bank only need supply “insurable title”, rather than “marketable title” (not being familiar with title matters I had to consult 2 attorneys on the difference). $100-per diem fee for later closing. Contract says seller will not pay any transfer or excise taxes. and a whole bunch of other verbiages that generally protect the bank, give them the right to back out and screw over the buyer.</li><li>I bring the addendum to my lawyer who makes several changes. Submit offer and addendum with changes. Bank will not accept any changes (actually, they’ve outsourced the sale to a 3rd party who does not have the authority, supposedly, to accept changes). I ask that the decision be escalated. Reply is that a new addendum can be added and they will consider changes on new addendum, but no changes will be accepted on their addendum.</li><li>Listing agent keeps telling us that he has other backup offers and even rejected one at 10K above asking (yeah right, nevermind his legal fudiciary duty to the seller to take the best price) and that he is doing me favours (yeah right) and generally rushes the process. I am not easily rushed.</li><li>Much back and fourth ensues, and we finally get the legal matters sorted out more or less to my satisfaction (I accept some compromise based on my belief that the bank actually doesn’t want to keep paying carrying costs on the property and wants it to be sold =)</li><li>Inspection and resale cert are acceptable.</li><li>Locked in a mortgage rate of 4.25% on a 30yr fixed /w 1/2 pt &#038; 25% down (lucky timing!)</li><li>Closing date set in mid June and we should make it to close, I hope!</li></ul><p>My conclusions (as a first time home-buyer):</p><ul><li>Bank have very poor and slow process.</li><li>Bank actions almost make things seem like they don’t really want to sell their property.</li><li>Their basic strategy appeared to be a Dutch auction: start the price above market value and drop price monthly to find a market clearing price. The problem is that the market was largely dropping with them, and so they could have sold the property much earlier and probably at a higher price if they had simply started the price at a realistic level and had some flexibility to accept lower than asking price. The Dutch auction strategy would work very well in a appreciating market, as each month’s appreciation will probably cover at least carrying costs.</li><li>Auction process was a waste of time, money for the seller and an annoyance to buyers (and kept the property off the market for ~1 month of peak season, (i.e. May)) Side note: properties at the auction where financing was available (read: not in horrendous condition) generally sold for 40-50% off peak market pricing. I’m not sure if they were expecting a miracle, not sure why the bank sent the property to auction if they weren’t serious to sell.</li><li>My wife became very frustrated with this process and was pushing me to just walk away several months ago. She has utter disdain for the seller and takes things personally.</li><li>In the end, I got a property for approx 45% off peak pricing, record low interest rates and I should qualify for the federal tax rebate. I personally expect the overall market to also fall about 40% in the long run, though would not be suprised to see an overshoot in the short run.</li><li>I calculated “fair market value” by averaging out comps from the early 1990s based on county records, adding 3%/yr for inflation and determining a fair price for this property would be around $325K &#8211; $375K. So my offer was not based on bubble pricing.</li><li>In the long run, I don’t expect this property to make money, beyond inflation.</li></ul></blockquote><p>What experiences have you had dealing with banks on the buying end?  Is Ross&#8217; story a familiar one?  Everyone knows that short sales are a pain and take a long time, but are just as many people having difficulties purchasing bank-owned homes as well?</p><p>Lets hear your stories.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/10/reader-story-buying-a-bank-owned-home/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>59</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>&#8220;Throwing Away Money&#8221;</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/09/throwing-away-money/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/09/throwing-away-money/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:47:30 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buy-vs-rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[mythbusting]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rent]]></category> <category><![CDATA[throwing away money]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5886</guid> <description><![CDATA[One of the reasons we would often hear people use to justify overspending on a home during the bubble was that they wanted to stop &#8220;throwing away money&#8221; on rent.
I would hope that by now most people have realized how ridiculous that concept is, but I thought it might help dispel the notion if we [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons we would often hear people use to justify overspending on a home during the bubble was that they wanted to stop &#8220;throwing away money&#8221; on rent.</p><p>I would hope that by now most people have realized how ridiculous that concept is, but I thought it might help dispel the notion if we consider a pair of hypothetical (but completely plausible) scenarios.</p><p
style="border-top: 1px dotted #000000; margin-top: -10px; padding-top: 10px;"><strong>Couple A</strong> is renting a 2-bedroom, 1.5-bath townhouse for $1,000 a month in Ballard.  Their $1,000 pays for not only the roof over their heads, but the water/sewer/trash, any necessary maintenance, and access to shared facilities such as a pool, hot tub, and workout room.</p><p>Over the past three years Couple A have spent around $35,000 on shelter.  If they decide they want to move, it&#8217;s as easy as waiting until the lease is up and collecting their security deposit.</p><p
style="border-top: 1px dotted #000000; margin-top: -10px; padding-top: 10px;"><strong>Couple B</strong> decided in 2006 that they were tired of &#8220;throwing away money on rent.&#8221;  They didn&#8217;t have a down payment, but that of course didn&#8217;t stop them from qualifying for a $400,000 loan on an adorable 2-bedroom, 1.5-bath Ballard craftsman.  With an interest rate of 5.7%, their (PITI) payments are around $3,000.  Of course, this doesn&#8217;t include any services or maintenance.</p><p>Over the past three years Couple B have spent around $67,000 on mortgage interest alone, and their home is now valued at around $340,000&mdash;15% less than they paid.  If they decide they want to move they have three options: Come up with about $40,000 in cash to cover the difference between their mortgage and the house&#8217;s value, convince the bank to accept a short sale, or <a
href="http://www.youwalkaway.com/" title="You Walk Away">walk away</a>.</p><p
style="border-top: 1px dotted #000000; margin-top: -10px; padding-top: 10px;">Now, which of these hypothetical couples seems more like they have been &#8220;throwing away money&#8221; to you?</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/09/throwing-away-money/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>127</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>DIY Seattle Home Ownership on the Cheap</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/04/diy-seattle-home-ownership-on-the-cheap/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/04/diy-seattle-home-ownership-on-the-cheap/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[construction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[custom home]]></category> <category><![CDATA[DIY]]></category> <category><![CDATA[small spaces]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5816</guid> <description><![CDATA[A couple months ago I pointed out Mike Davidson&#8217;s excellent home-building journal A House by the Park, in which he is chronicling his step-by-step process to build a custom home in Magnolia.
When I posted that link, some readers complained that Mike&#8217;s project was too high-end to be of much use to your more average family. [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple months ago <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/13/local-first-hand-journal-of-the-custom-home-building-process/" title="Local First-Hand Journal of the Custom Home-Building Process">I pointed out</a> Mike Davidson&#8217;s excellent home-building journal <a
href="http://www.ahousebythepark.com/journal/" title="A House by the Park">A House by the Park</a>, in which he is chronicling his step-by-step process to build a custom home in Magnolia.</p><p>When I posted that link, some readers complained that Mike&#8217;s project was too high-end to be of much use to your more average family.  Well, thanks to <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/03/mid-week-open-thread-2009-06-03/#comment-74869" title="">a heads up from Cheap South in the comments</a>, here&#8217;s another local project on the opposite end of the spectrum for you: <a
href="http://mobilecottage.blogspot.com/" title="Mini-Mobile Cottage">Mini-Mobile Cottage</a></p><p>Jeff &#038; Arlene are building a cottage with less than 200 square feet, documenting and pricing out the project in a similar manner to Mike&#8217;s site.  They&#8217;re also <a
href="http://mobilecottage.blogspot.com/2009/05/search-and-what-we-hope-to-find.html" title="Mini-Mobile Cottage: The Search And What We Hope To Find">looking for a place to park their house</a> upon completion in August, so if you&#8217;re interested in helping, drop them a line.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/04/diy-seattle-home-ownership-on-the-cheap/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>5</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Cheapest Seattle Homes: June Edition</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/02/cheapest-seattle-homes-june-edition/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/02/cheapest-seattle-homes-june-edition/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:47:35 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheapest-homes]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5791</guid> <description><![CDATA[.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}
Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  Ideally this should be a monthly series, but somehow it was overlooked last month.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<style>.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}</style><p>Let&#8217;s check in again on the cheapest homes around Seattle proper.  Ideally this should be a monthly series, but somehow it was overlooked last month.  For methodology and a brief explanation of the reasoning behind this series, <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/" title="Cheapest Seattle Homes: April Edition">hit the April post</a>.</p><p><b>Please note</b>: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement or endorsement of any specific home for sale.  We are merely taking a brief snapshot of the market at a given time.  Also, just because a home makes it onto the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; list, does not indicate that it is a good value.</p><p>Here are this month&#8217;s three cheapest single-family homes in the city limits of Seattle (according to <a
href="http://www.redfin.com/" title="Search Seattle Homes">Redfin</a>):</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/10044-10th-Ave-SW-98146/home/181496">10044 10th Ave SW</a></td><td>$144,950</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>520</td><td>7,620 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/city/26433/WA/White-Center">White Center</a></td><td>$279</td><td>-</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/8523-Dallas-Ave-S-98108/home/477350">8523 Dallas Ave S</a></td><td>$151,200</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>900</td><td>3,480 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2558/WA/Seattle/South-Park">South Park</a></td><td>$168</td><td>Bank-Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/7525-14th-Ave-SW-98106/home/161089">7525 14th Ave SW</a></td><td>$155,000</td><td>3</td><td>1</td><td>1,580</td><td>6,000 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/682/WA/Seattle/Delridge">Delridge</a></td><td>$98</td><td>-</td></tr></table><p>There were a few houseboats that showed up in my SFH search that were cheaper than these three, as well as a couple &#8220;fixer-uppers&#8221; of the more extreme variety.  All three of April&#8217;s featured cheapest homes are no longer on the market, but according to Redfin, none of them actually sold, either.</p><p><b>Stats for Seattle Single-Family Homes Under $200,000</b><br
/> Total on market: 42<br
/> Average number of beds: 2.0<br
/> Average number of baths: 1.2<br
/> Average square footage: 979<br
/> Average days on market: 72</p><p>As an added bonus, here are the three cheapest homes in terms of dollars per square foot:</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/5316-S-Wallace-St-98178/home/178733">5316 S Wallace St</a></td><td>$81</td><td>$250,000</td><td>6</td><td>3</td><td>3,090</td><td>9,627 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/2247/WA/Seattle/Rainier-View">Rainier View</a></td><td>-</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/3332-S-Holly-St-98118/home/479338">3332 S Holly St</a></td><td>$94</td><td>$325,000</td><td>5</td><td>2.75</td><td>3,440</td><td>10,630 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1688/WA/Seattle/Mid-Beacon-Hill">Mid-Beacon Hill</a></td><td>-</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/7525-14th-Ave-SW-98106/home/161089">7525 14th Ave SW</a></td><td>$98</td><td>$155,000</td><td>3</td><td>1</td><td>1,580</td><td>6,000 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/682/WA/Seattle/Delridge">Delridge</a></td><td>-</td></tr></table> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/02/cheapest-seattle-homes-june-edition/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>17</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>What does Personal Income tell us about near future home prices?</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/01/what-does-personal-income-tell-us-about-near-future-home-prices/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/01/what-does-personal-income-tell-us-about-near-future-home-prices/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Statistics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fundamentals]]></category> <category><![CDATA[income]]></category> <category><![CDATA[long-term]]></category> <category><![CDATA[PCI]]></category> <category><![CDATA[price-to-income]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5732</guid> <description><![CDATA[There have been a couple of discussions in the comments section in the last week or so about the relationship between home prices and incomes.   I thought it would be  a good time to queue up a post about the long-term price-to-income trends, where we are now, and what the possible outcomes could be.
The analysis [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been a couple of discussions in the comments section in the last week or so about the relationship between home prices and incomes.   I thought it would be  a good time to queue up a post about the long-term price-to-income trends, where we are now, and what the possible outcomes could be.</p><p>The analysis in this post are all based on annual data for King County for the period from 1969-2008 &#8211; a period that covers five recessions.  For home prices, I used the King County MLS median price for SFH, pulled from The Tim&#8217;s long-run home price chart.  Tim&#8217;s data in this series shows home values in April and October of each year.  I used the October data.  For income, I pulled the data for King County Personal income per capita (PCI) from www.bea.gov.  This time series runs from 1969-2007.  In order to estimate PCI for 2008, I grossed up the 2007 figure by 1%, which was the estimate of Median HHI income growth for King County by the Washington Office of Financial Management (OFM).</p><p><em>[Note from The Tim: For a more granular look at the short-term price-to-income trend since 1990, <a
title="Seattle Homes Still 10-20% Overpriced Compared to Rents and Incomes" href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/02/seattle-homes-still-10-20-overpriced-compared-to-rents-and-incomes/">hit this post</a>.]</em></p><p>The first analysis is a simple line chart showing the historical ratio of home prices to income.   Here we can see that, up until the turn of the century, home prices bounced around in a fairly narrow range when expressed as a multiple of incomes.  The multiple is closer to 4x in times of economic duress (e.g. the oil crisis and mid-eighties recession) and rises up closer to 6x in better times.  But the average multiple of home prices to incomes between 1969 and 2000 was almost exactly 5x.  Then, as lending rules are eased in 2001 -  we see the multiple grow steadily until it peaks over 8x in 2006, before falling back to 7.1x as of October 2008.</p><p
style="text-align: center;"><img
class="size-full wp-image-5735 aligncenter" style="border:0;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pci-multiple.png" alt="King County, 1969-2008" width="642" height="321" /></p><p>Based on this chart it is pretty clear to me that claims that home prices falling to their &#8220;normal state&#8221; of 3x income are best discussed on Snopes.com.  There is no historical precedent for the median price for homes in the Seattle area being that low relative to income in most of our lifetimes &#8211; and even if it has fallen to that level at some point in the past, I doubt home prices have averaged 3x income for any extended period of time.  Based on the last ~40 years the &#8220;bottom&#8221; for home prices based on the income multiple appears to be about 4x incomes.</p><p>The second analysis uses the same data, but presents the results as a scatterplot.  Here we can see even more clearly the impact of the changes in lending standards in 2001.   From 1969 to 2000, the relationship between home prices and incomes (shown in blue) follows an almost linear path.  The r-square between these two time series is over 97%.  Using a &#8220;best fit&#8221; line shows that the best predictor for home prices as a multiple of incomes during this time period is 5.35x &#8211; slightly higher than the mathematical average from the analysis above &#8211; but probably a slightly better estimate of the long run trended value.</p><p><img
class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5736" style="border:1px solid #000000;" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/price-income-scatter.png" alt="Home prices vs. Income Growth" width="638" height="378" /></p><p>The red points clearly show home prices diverging from the long-run trend line in 2001, and moving back toward it beginning in 2007.  I think this is the starkest evidence I have seen showing how the &#8220;fundamentals&#8221; of income as a driver of home values disappeared in the boom.  After tracking income for 30+ years, home prices set off on their own path just as new financing vehicles and standards were introduced to the market.</p><p>This chart also casts doubt on that the claim that the boom &#8220;started late&#8221; in Seattle.  You can clearly see that home prices were shooting up relative to incomes in 2001 and 2002, before leveling off slightly in 2003.  The perception that we were not &#8220;booming&#8221; was probably due to  income growth being depressed by the end of the dot com boom and the stock market crash &#8211; but the ratio of home prices to incomes was steadily increasing.</p><p>I also ran an analysis comparing the <em>annual change </em>in home prices to the <em>annual change </em>in incomes.  This is a &#8220;purer&#8221; analysis because with two trended series (e.g. home prices and incomes) a large portion of the explanatory value is the result of autocorrelation.  I haven&#8217;t clipped the graph in here, but the r-square for this analysis was 0.3 &#8211; which is pretty high for a single variable regression using two fairly noisy series.  It was enough to satisfy my curiosity, as I am entirely comfortable with the premise the primary driver of  home prices is income levels, all other things being equal (e.g. financing terms, relative supply)</p><p>Based on this comparison, my observations are as follows:</p><ul><li>This is evidence to me that we are clearly still far from the bottom.  Depending on your viewpoint, prices should fall back at least to the long-run income multiple (I&#8217;ll use 5.35x) and could drop as low as 4x.  Based on this data series, I see no precedent for a lower multiple.</li><li>King County PCI for 2008 should be about $55k, and given the state of the economy it will probably stay about the same in  2009 .  Applying those income multiples would indicate the King County median would  &#8220;bottom&#8221;  somewhere between $220k and $295k.</li><li>The April median for King County SFH was $380k, indicating a possibility of 22-42% of additional downside risk</li></ul><p>For home prices to fall much further than this (e.g. the super-bear&#8217;s $100k prediction), it seems to me that one or more of the following things would have to be true:</p><ol><li>Home price/income multiples would have to diverge greatly from 30+ years of historical precedence</li><li>Incomes would have to fall dramatically</li><li>Lending standards would have to be tightened dramatically from their pre-bubble standards.  (A simple increase in rates should not be a unique condition, as the period of this analysis includes the double digit rates in the early &#8217;80s)</li><li>Some other extraordinary event would have to take place such as a change in the tax treatment of real estate.</li></ol><p>Note that I am not saying any of these things won&#8217;t happen. But it does seem to me that conditions would have to change quite dramatically to result in that extreme of a drop in values.  As of today, it appears incomes are relatively stable, lending standards have (for the most part) returned to pre-bubble conditions, and home prices are trending back to the long run income multiple.</p><p>My caveat: This analysis is not intended to be predictive.  It is intended as additional information from which you, the reader can generate your own opinions about where the housing market is going and make an informed decision on a housing purchase during a period of great uncertainty.  Hopefully it will generate good discussion in the comments section.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/01/what-does-personal-income-tell-us-about-near-future-home-prices/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>72</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/21/how-to-sell-your-home-in-a-down-market/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/21/how-to-sell-your-home-in-a-down-market/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:12:09 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[advice]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buyer's market]]></category> <category><![CDATA[how-to]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sellers]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5628</guid> <description><![CDATA[We spend a lot of time on here with posts directed toward helping home buyers to do their research and make smart decisions, but the housing market is made up of buyers and sellers, so let&#8217;s turn our attention toward home sellers.
Just a few short years ago, the home-selling process went something like this:Put your [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We spend a lot of time on here with posts directed toward helping home buyers to do their research and make smart decisions, but the housing market is made up of buyers <em>and</em> sellers, so let&#8217;s turn our attention toward home sellers.</p><p>Just a few short years ago, the home-selling process went something like this:</p><ol><li>Put your home on the market in any condition.</li><li>Receive multiple offers within a month for 10-20% over asking price.</li><li>Profit!</li></ol><p>Sadly for you (the home seller), it&#8217;s not quite that easy any more.  Average days on market for sold homes has gone from the mid-30s at the height of the bubble to the upper 80s today.  Meanwhile, thousands of homes continue to sit on the market month after month, as the average time on market for <em>unsold</em> homes has climbed to nearly four months.</p><p>If your home is one of those that are sitting on the market unsold, or if you&#8217;re thinking about putting your house on the market, don&#8217;t just sit on your hands and <em>hope</em> that buyers will want to buy your home.  The housing market is a competition, and you need to be proactive to grab the attention of a buyer pool that is much smaller than it was during the bubble.</p><p>In order of priority, here are the things you need to focus on and get right when you put your house on the market:</p><ol><li>Pricing</li><li>Marketing</li><li>Cleaning</li><li>Extras</li></ol><p>The first three are critical, and make up the absolute minimum requirements for what any home seller should do if they really want to sell their home for a fair market price.  Unfortunately, many sellers only tackle #2 (i.e. &#8211; list it on the MLS), and then wonder why their home isn&#8217;t selling.</p><p>We will go into each of these points in detail with dedicated posts in the coming weeks, giving sellers the tools they need to appropriately price, market, and clean their homes to attract a buyer.</p><p>For today, I&#8217;d like to hear from anyone who has recently been successful at selling a home.  What tips do you have for sellers that are watching their home sit on the market for months?  What should a potential seller do <em>before</em> they list their home?</p><p><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.2em;">How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market</span></p><ul><li><strong>Introduction: How-To: Sell Your Home in a Down Market</strong></li><li><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/06/15/how-to-sell-your-home-deep-clean-to-make-your-house-shine/" title="Deep Clean to Make Your House Shine">Deep Clean to Make Your House Shine</a></li><li><em>Pricing Your House</em></li><li><em>Marketing Your House</em></li><li><em>Extras to Sell Your House</em></li></ul> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/21/how-to-sell-your-home-in-a-down-market/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>122</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>King County Home Prices &amp; Affordability 1950-2009 Q1</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/20/king-county-home-prices-affordability-1950-2009-q1/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/20/king-county-home-prices-affordability-1950-2009-q1/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:00:32 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Statistics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[affordability]]></category> <category><![CDATA[inflation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[NWMLS]]></category> <category><![CDATA[original research]]></category> <category><![CDATA[roller_coaster]]></category> <category><![CDATA[stair step]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Tytler]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5615</guid> <description><![CDATA[A reader pointed out that I had not provided an updated chart of the long-term (50+ year) trend of local home prices since I originally posted my research in February 2008.  So, here&#8217;s an updated look at the long-term trends in local home prices and affordability:So much for Steve Tytler&#8217;s famous &#8220;stair step&#8221; theory [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader pointed out that I had not provided an updated chart of the long-term (50+ year) trend of local home prices since I originally posted my research <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/19/king-county-home-prices-1946-2007/" title="King County Home Prices: 1946-2007">in February 2008</a>.  So, here&#8217;s an updated look at the long-term trends in local home prices and affordability:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kc-home-prices_1946-2009a.png" title="King County Median Home Prices: 1946-2009"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kc-home-prices_1946-2009a-600x436.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px" title="King County Median Home Prices: 1946-2009" alt="King County Median Home Prices: 1946-2009" width="600" height="436" /></a></p><p>So much for <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/05/23/a-conversation-with-steve-tytler/" title="A Conversation with Steve Tytler">Steve Tytler</a>&#8217;s famous &#8220;stair step&#8221; theory (which he was still espousing <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/02/19/king-county-home-prices-1946-2007/#comment-51079" title="Comment by Steve Tytler">as recently as July 2008</a>).</p><p>Note that in the above chart, each data point represents a 6-month average, and in the chart below, each represents a 12-month average.  For 2009 we are using the 4-month average of January &#8211; April.</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kc-affordability-index_1950-2009a.png" title="King County Affordability Index"><img
src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kc-affordability-index_1950-2009a-600x436.png" style="border: 0; margin: 5px" title="King County Affordability Index" alt="King County Affordability Index" width="600" height="436" /></a></p><p>I&#8217;d love to provide you with a more substantive post today, but I&#8217;m taking my birthday off (this post was pre-written last night).  See you tomorrow.</p><p><strong>Sources:</strong><br
/> <em>(1946-1992 Home Prices: <a
href="http://www.realestatereport.org/" title="The Central Puget Sound Real Estate Research Report">Seattle Real Estate Research Report</a>)<br
/> (1993-2009 Home Prices: <a
href="http://www.nwmls.com/discover/nwreporter.cfm?SectionListsID=11" title="NWMLS: Market Update">NWMLS</a>)<br
/> (Misc. Price Data: <a
href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2006/09/02/2003241651.pdf" title="Home Prices Long Rise">Seattle Times</a>)<br
/> (Inflation Data: <a
href="http://www.bls.gov/cpi/" title="Bureau of Labor Statistics">Bureau of Labor Statistics</a> &#8211; <a
href="http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/outside.jsp?survey=cu" title="Consumer Price Index">Consumer Price Index</a>)</em><br
/> (Household Income: <a
href="http://www.census.gov/" title="US Census Bureau">US Census Bureau</a>)<br
/> (1950-1970 Interest Rates: <a
href="http://www.forecasts.org/data/fhatrnd.htm" title="Financial Forecast Center">Financial Forecast Center</a>)<br
/> (1971-2009 Interest Rates: <a
href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/data/Monthly/H15_MORTG_NA.txt" title="Federal Reserve">Federal Reserve</a>)</em></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/05/20/king-county-home-prices-affordability-1950-2009-q1/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>85</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Robert Shiller at SPU—Psychology and the Housing Market</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/27/robert-shiller-at-spu%e2%80%94psychology-and-the-housing-market/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/27/robert-shiller-at-spu%e2%80%94psychology-and-the-housing-market/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:37:56 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[California]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Seattle_is_special]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Shiller]]></category> <category><![CDATA[SPU]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5287</guid> <description><![CDATA[Increasingly-famous economist and housing market sage Robert Shiller spoke in Seattle this morning at a business breakfast downtown and this afternoon at Seattle Pacific University.  Mr. Shiller&#8217;s presentations focused on the role that psychology plays in economic markets, a topic that he explores with co-author George Akerlof in their recent book Animal Spirits.
The morning [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Increasingly-famous economist and housing market sage Robert Shiller spoke in Seattle this morning at a business breakfast downtown and this afternoon at Seattle Pacific University.  Mr. Shiller&#8217;s presentations focused on the role that psychology plays in economic markets, a topic that he explores with co-author George Akerlof in their recent book <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691142335?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=prioutfor-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0691142335">Animal Spirits</a>.</p><p>The morning session consisted of roughly thirty minutes of prepared remarks given to a crowd of about 1,400 local business leaders and people with ties to SPU.  The afternoon session was about an hour long, and was more interactive event at a smaller venue with the capacity to seat only a few hundred.  After giving a condensed version of the same presentation from the breakfast, the floor was opened for a question-and-answer session.</p><p>Dr. Shiller&#8217;s primary thesis is that economic markets are strongly influenced by psychology that seems rational to individuals, but on the whole is &#8220;collective madness.&#8221;</p><p>He referred to the notion that prevailed during the housing bubble that home prices never go down as laughable, and said that the ideas that housing is an &#8220;amazing investment&#8221; and that you can be &#8220;priced out&#8221; are not supported by the data.</p><p>One  amusing part of the afternoon session was a story Dr. Shiller related about a localized Los Angeles housing bubble in 1885.  In describing the mentality in 1885 Los Angeles, he said that people thought &#8220;Los Angeles is special!&#8221;  He also quoted from an article in the LA Times which was published during the aftermath of the collapse in 1886:</p><blockquote><p>We Californians have learned something.  And that is that home prices can&#8217;t just go up forever&mdash;they have to be supported by something.  Never again will Californians make this mistake.</p></blockquote><p>Regarding government bailouts, Dr. Shiller likened the economy to a sinking ship (specifically the <em>Titanic</em>), saying that &#8220;we just have to try something,&#8221; and &#8220;I give them credit for trying.&#8221;  [Update: As I understood him, Dr. Shiller was proposing that we “try something” not to re-inflate the bubble, but rather to soften the blow of the bursting bubble, and to prevent the opposite of “irrational exuberance” from driving the nation and the world into a massive over-correction that could last for decades.]  He also suggested that more should be done to prevent foreclosures, due to the psychological impact of losing one&#8217;s home.</p><p>After the afternoon session, Ray Pepper (<a
href="http://www.500realty.net/" title="500 Realty">500 Realty</a>) and I were discussing the psychological implications and the moral hazard inherent in mortgage principal reductions, which Dr. Shiller seemed to be promoting.  Ray asked Dr. Shiller about this, and he responded that &#8220;I&#8217;m not a fan of it in the long run, but maybe in the immediate crisis, because people are in trouble.&#8221;  His ideal solution would be something he calls a &#8220;continuous workout mortgage,&#8221; where a workout (principal write-down) is pre-specified and priced into the mortgage from the start (a concept described in more detail in his book <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691139296?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=prioutfor-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0691139296">The Subprime Solution</a>).</p><p>Although he declined to give any specific forecasts, the feeling I got from his comments were that Dr. Shiller believes home prices will return to their long-term, inflation-adjusted historical levels, both nationwide and even here in Seattle.</p><p>For anyone interested in hearing the entire afternoon lecture, you can listen to it right here:</p><p
style="margin: 1px auto 15px; width: 290px">[See post to listen to audio]</p><p>Feel free to also <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/robert-shiller-at-spu-notes.pdf" title="Robert Shiller at SPU: Notes">download a pdf of my barely-legible notes</a>, in which I embarrassingly and inexplicably misspelled Dr. Shiller&#8217;s name.  Or, for those of you that are really adventurous, you can <a
href="http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/LDApp.woa/wa/MLSOverviewPage?sid=RpvXkbqszhFP" title="Robert Shiller at SPU: Livescribe digital notes">view an interactive version of my notes indexed to the audio of the event</a>.</p><p>If anyone would like to hear the morning lecture, I have a recording of that as well, but the quality is relatively poor due to it being such a large room.  Let me know and I will post a link in the comments.</p><p>Aubrey Cohen also has a write-up of his take on the morning event here: <a
href="http://www.seattlepi.com/local/405576_shiller27.html" title="Put down the instant coffee: Economist warns of depression mindset">Put down the instant coffee: Economist warns of depression mindset</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/27/robert-shiller-at-spu%e2%80%94psychology-and-the-housing-market/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>32</slash:comments> <enclosure
url="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/Robert-Shiller-Afternoon-Lecture.mp3" length="24333280" type="audio/mpeg" /> </item> <item><title>Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply: A New Measure of Market Virility</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/27/seasonally-adjusted-active-supply-a-new-measure-of-market-virility/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/27/seasonally-adjusted-active-supply-a-new-measure-of-market-virility/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Statistics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[months of supply]]></category> <category><![CDATA[NWMLS]]></category> <category><![CDATA[SAAS]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5258</guid> <description><![CDATA[With the increasing disparity between pending and closed sales, using &#8220;Months of Supply&#8221; as it is traditionally calculated to provide a measure of market &#8220;strength&#8221; is becoming more and more misleading.
In order to address this issue, I have devised a new measure of market vitality: Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply (SAAS).  To determine the SAAS, [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/tag/pending/" title="&quot;Pending&quot; on Seattle Bubble">increasing disparity between pending and closed sales</a>, using &#8220;Months of Supply&#8221; as it is traditionally calculated to provide a measure of market &#8220;strength&#8221; is becoming more and more misleading.</p><p>In order to address this issue, I have devised a new measure of market vitality: Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply (SAAS).  To determine the SAAS, I am dividing the number of <b>new listings</b> in a given month by the number of <b>closed sales</b>, then multiplying by a seasonal factor between 0.7 and 2.1 to smooth out the strong seasonal variations.</p><p>Here&#8217;s what the SAAS looks like for King County SFH as far back as we have reliable data:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-king-sfh_2009-03.png" title="King County SFH Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply (SAAS)"><img
style="border: 0; margin: 5px" title="King County SFH Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply (SAAS)" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-king-sfh_2009-03-600x435.png" alt="King County SFH Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply (SAAS)" width="600" height="435" /></a></p><p>King County&#8217;s SAAS has definitely dropped down off the highs we saw through the winter, when it hit values between 3.3 and 3.4, but March&#8217;s SAAS of 2.75 was still higher than January through October of last year.  We&#8217;re also well above the pre-bubble average of 1.85.</p><p>With Months of Supply we generally consider a value of 6.0 to be a &#8220;balanced market.&#8221;  For Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply, I would put the &#8220;balanced market&#8221; point at about 2.0.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a comparison of SAAS and MOS for the same period as the chart above:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-vs-mos_2009-03.png" title="King County SFH SAAS vs MOS"><img
style="border: 0; margin: 5px" title="King County SFH SAAS vs MOS" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-vs-mos_2009-03-600x435.png" alt="King County SFH SAAS vs MOS" width="600" height="435" /></a></p><p>You can see that from 2000 through about midway through 2006, the two tracked fairly close to each other.  In mid-2007 as the bubble begain to burst, MOS shot up much faster than SAAS, perhaps due to the rapidly increasing number of &#8220;<a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/tag/stale-listings/" title="&quot;Stale Listings&quot; on Seattle Bubble">stale listings</a>.&#8221;  Since last December as the gap between pending and closed sales has continued to widen, MOS has fallen much faster than SAAS.</p><p>SAAS seems to me to be a decent way to track the overall market action.  I&#8217;d love to hear your feedback on this method and the picture that is painted by this data.</p><p><b>[Update:]</b> Hit the jump below for a few more graphs of the SAAS data requested by readers.</p><p><span
id="more-5258"></span>Here&#8217;s a look at the &#8220;Active Supply&#8221; without the seasonal adjustment:</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-minus-sa_2009-03.png" title="King County SFH Non-Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply"><img
style="border: 0; margin: 5px" title="King County SFH Non-Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-minus-sa_2009-03-600x435.png" alt="King County SFH Non-Seasonally Adjusted Active Supply" width="600" height="435" /></a></p><p>Here are the monthly weights that were used to seasonally adjust the data:</p><blockquote><p>Jan: 0.7<br
/> Feb: 0.8<br
/> Mar: 0.9<br
/> Apr: 0.9<br
/> May: 0.9<br
/> Jun: 1.0<br
/> Jul: 1.1<br
/> Aug: 1.1<br
/> Sep: 1.0<br
/> Oct: 1.0<br
/> Nov: 1.2<br
/> Dec: 2.1</p></blockquote><p>And finally, here are comparisons of MOS (centered on 6.0) vs. YOY median price (centered on 5.0%), and SAAS (centered on 2.0) vs. YOY median price (at 5.0%):</p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/mos-and-yoy-prices_2009-03.png" title="King County SFH MOS and YOY Median Price"><img
style="border: 0; margin: 5px" title="King County SFH MOS and YOY Median Price" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/mos-and-yoy-prices_2009-03-600x435.png" alt="King County SFH MOS and YOY Median Price" width="600" height="435" /></a></p><p
style="margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;"><a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-and-yoy-prices_2009-03.png" title="King County SFH SAAS and YOY Median Price"><img
style="border: 0; margin: 5px" title="King County SFH SAAS and YOY Median Price" src="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/saas-and-yoy-prices_2009-03-600x435.png" alt="King County SFH SAAS and YOY Median Price" width="600" height="435" /></a></p><p>I would say that there seems to be a fairly good relationship between an SAAS around 2.0 and a &#8220;healthy,&#8221; sustainable 5.0% YOY appreciation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/27/seasonally-adjusted-active-supply-a-new-measure-of-market-virility/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>40</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Biggest Real Estate Scam Of All Time</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-biggest-real-estate-scam-of-all-time/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-biggest-real-estate-scam-of-all-time/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:11:04 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[fraud]]></category> <category><![CDATA[scam]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5241</guid> <description><![CDATA[A reader sent me this excerpt from the Fraud Examiners Manual (2006 edition), published by the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners:
Real Estate
Real estate scams are easily recognized. There is almost always an element of time pressure, with the victims being convinced they are participating in a &#8220;once-in-a-lifetime, now-or-never&#8221; deal. The investors are led to believe [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader sent me this excerpt from the <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/Fraud-Examiners-Manual-Association-Certified/dp/1889277118/" title="Fraud Examiners Manual">Fraud Examiners Manual</a> (2006 edition), published by the <a
href="http://www.acfe.com/" title="Association of Certified Fraud Examiners">Association of Certified Fraud Examiners</a>:</p><blockquote><p><b><i>Real Estate</i></b></p><p>Real estate scams are easily recognized. There is almost always an element of time pressure, with the victims being convinced they are participating in a &#8220;once-in-a-lifetime, now-or-never&#8221; deal. The investors are led to believe there is no time to investigate the venture, and that if they hesitate, they will miss the opportunity to make a fortune. Promises of big profits for little or no involvement are the norm in real estate scams.</p></blockquote><p>Oh snap, America&#8230;  you&#8217;ve been scammed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-biggest-real-estate-scam-of-all-time/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>18</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>KING 5&#8217;s Up Front: Local Housing Downturn Not Over Yet</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/21/king-5s-up-front-local-housing-downturn-not-over-yet/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/21/king-5s-up-front-local-housing-downturn-not-over-yet/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[JohnLScott]]></category> <category><![CDATA[King5]]></category> <category><![CDATA[KOMO]]></category> <category><![CDATA[propaganda]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Schauffler]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Up Front]]></category> <category><![CDATA[video]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5200</guid> <description><![CDATA[Sunday&#8217;s Up Front on KING 5 focused on the local real estate market, and provided a relatively balanced picture.  Host Allen Schauffler presented an overall picture of the current market, a look at a couple that got swept up in the bubble mania, a look at the next wave of adjustable rate resets, a [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.king5.com/video/upfront-index.html?nvid=353278&#038;shu=1" title="KING 5 Up Front: The real estate market">Sunday&#8217;s Up Front on KING 5</a> focused on the local real estate market, and provided a relatively balanced picture.  Host Allen Schauffler presented an overall picture of the current market, a look at a couple that got swept up in the bubble mania, a look at the next wave of adjustable rate resets, a warning about loan modification scammers, and an interview with George W. Johnson, Ballard&#8217;s 96-year-old real estate agent.</p><p>Here is the money quote:</p><blockquote><p>Local economist Jim Hebert says those prices are going to drop even more.  And that&#8217;s something people should consider now, when they make an offer.</p><p><em>[Hebert]</em> &#8220;&#8230;perhaps what you do is you don&#8217;t look at today&#8217;s price, you look at the price in four to six months.  And it&#8217;s going to continue to fall&mdash;for a while, it will fall.  It must.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Schauffler only interviews one real estate professional in the broadcast, mortgage broker Howard Bono, who forecasts a horizon of &#8220;three or four or five years&#8221; before the market gets back on its feet.</p><p>The overall tone of this most recent piece is a far cry from the <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2007/11/13/is-it-a-good-time-to-buy-salespeople-say-yes/" title="Is it a good time to buy? Salespeople say YES!">November 2007 Up Front</a> in which <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2008/12/12/j-lennox-scott-dick-beeson-predictions-vs-reality/" title="Lennox Scott">Lennox Scott</a>, responding to a forecast of home prices dropping 19.5% in five years, made the assertion that &#8220;that&#8217;s not the projections that we&#8217;re seeing.&#8221;  For the record, King County&#8217;s median home price is down 24% from its July 2007 peak, and 18% since Mr. Scott made that claim.</p><p>In stark contrast to Sunday&#8217;s balanced Up Front report is this piece from KOMO News on Saturday: <a
href="http://www.komonews.com/economy/homes/43232932.html" title="Home deals: A bright spark amid economic gloom">Home deals: A bright spark amid economic gloom</a> <em>(emphasis mine)</em></p><blockquote><p>It&#8217;s one of the few bright spots amid the economic gloom &#8211; a local real estate market that is <strong>brimming with deals</strong> and <strong>incredibly low financing</strong>.</p><p>But <strong>no one knows just how long it will last</strong>. So some people aren&#8217;t waiting any longer to make the plunge.<br
/> &#8230;<br
/> Coupled with the dropping prices are some <strong>jaw-dropping financing</strong> offers that are being made by some lenders. Some banks are offering rates as low as 3.875 percent.</p><p><strong>&#8220;How crazy is that?&#8221;</strong> says real estate agent Becky Hiller. &#8220;I know, <strong>it&#8217;s incredible. Amazing &#8211; it&#8217;s just unheard of.</strong>&#8221;<br
/> &#8230;<br
/> &#8220;I think <strong>the bottom has hit</strong>,&#8221; says <em>[builder Mark]</em> Huber. &#8220;Supply is going to start diminishing, and the good ones are going to go fast. This is definitely the time to buy.&#8221;</p><p>Because <strong>who knows when real estate prices will skyrocket once again</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>Wow.</p><p>Props to KING 5 for a balanced and realistic story about the local housing market, and shame on KOMO 4 for running a thinly veiled advertisement for local agents and builders and calling it &#8220;news.&#8221;</p><p><span
style="font-size: 85%;">Hat tip to RedmondJP for <a
href="http://seattlebubble.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&#038;t=2183" title="Local TV news following the lead of the print media (sigh)">pointing out the KOMO piece over in the forums</a>.</span></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/21/king-5s-up-front-local-housing-downturn-not-over-yet/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>23</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Local First-Hand Journal of the Custom Home-Building Process</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/13/local-first-hand-journal-of-the-custom-home-building-process/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/13/local-first-hand-journal-of-the-custom-home-building-process/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:09:36 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[construction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[custom home]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Davidson]]></category> <category><![CDATA[DIY]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5111</guid> <description><![CDATA[I had the pleasure of speaking with Mike Davidson (founder and CEO of Newsvine) at last week&#8217;s No News is Bad News event.  During our conversation, he alerted me to an excellent blog that he has been updating since October 2007 in which he is chronicling his journey to build a custom home: A [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of speaking with <a
href="http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/about" title="Mike Davidson">Mike Davidson</a> (founder and CEO of <a
href="http://www.newsvine.com/" title="Newsvine">Newsvine</a>) at <a
href="http://www.nonewsisbadnews.org/event2.html" title="No News is Bad News: Making it work">last week&#8217;s No News is Bad News event</a>.  During our conversation, he alerted me to an excellent blog that he has been updating since October 2007 in which he is chronicling his journey to build a custom home: <a
href="http://www.ahousebythepark.com/" title="A House By The Park">A House By The Park</a></p><p>Here&#8217;s a snippet from his About page:</p><blockquote><p>In beginning the process of building a house, I’ve found no singular source of information online which describes the start-to-finish process of creating a new custom home. There are a ton of “Building A Home For Dummies”-style books on Amazon, as well as disparate blog posts and photo galleries about new construction, but nowhere have I found a coherent, first-hand journal of the entire process from the standpoint of someone like me: a guy building his first house with no clue what to do besides putting one foot before the other.</p><p>A House By The Park will attempt to be that guide for others looking to do exactly what I’m trying to do: build a great, affordable custom home with no prior experience. If something like this existed before I began my project, I know I’d be a lot more equipped than I currently am.</p></blockquote><p>Mike is detailing the entire process, including the hunt for and acquisition of the perfect plot of land on which to build his home, which happens to be right here in the Seattle area.</p><p>One of the greatest features of <a
href="http://www.ahousebythepark.com/" title="A House By The Park">A House By The Park</a> is that Mike is 100% transparent about how much he is spending on each step of the process.  At the end of each post in which he discusses a new cost for the project, he plainly lists all the costs in a simple table, providing those who follow in his footsteps a great data point for comparison to their own project.</p><p><a
href="http://www.ahousebythepark.com/" title="A House By The Park">A House By The Park</a> would be an awesome resource for anyone considering going through the process of building a custom home.  I highly recommend checking it out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/13/local-first-hand-journal-of-the-custom-home-building-process/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>17</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Cheapest Seattle Homes: April Edition</title><link>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/</link> <comments>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:56:35 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>The Tim</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cheapest-homes]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://seattlebubble.com/blog/?p=5019</guid> <description><![CDATA[.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}
Today we&#8217;re going to kick off a new feature here that will (hopefully) provide another, more &#8220;down to earth&#8221; way to track the Seattle-area housing market.  Charts and graphs are great, but I think we can also get [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<style>.CNNTable {margin: 5px auto 15px;} .CNNTable td {padding: 0px 5px; text-align: center; font-size: .9em;} .top_row {font-weight: bold;}</style><p>Today we&#8217;re going to kick off a new feature here that will (hopefully) provide another, more &#8220;down to earth&#8221; way to track the Seattle-area housing market.  Charts and graphs are great, but I think we can also get a picture of what&#8217;s going on in the market by looking at what your money can actually buy.</p><p>So here&#8217;s the methodology: I&#8217;ll search the listings for the cheapest homes currently on the market in the city of Seattle proper.  Disregarding any properties that are in obvious states of extreme disrepair (based on listing photos and descriptions), we&#8217;ll post the top (bottom) three, along with some overall stats on the low end of the market.</p><p>Over time, we should be able to see whether the overall quality of the cheapest homes is getting better (or worse), or whether the cheapest homes are getting cheaper (or more expensive).</p><p><b>Please note</b>: These posts should not be construed to be an advertisement or endorsement of any specific home for sale.  We are merely taking a brief snapshot of the market at a given time.  Also, just because a home makes it onto the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; list, does not indicate that it is a good value.</p><p>So, let&#8217;s get on with it.  Here are this month&#8217;s three cheapest single-family homes:</p><table
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class="top_row"><td>Address</td><td>Price</td><td>Beds</td><td>Baths</td><td>SqFt</td><td>Lot Size</td><td>Neighborhood</td><td>$ / SqFt</td><td>Notes</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/10225-Evanston-Ave-N-98133/home/98507">10225 Evanston Ave N</a></td><td>$133,000</td><td>2</td><td>1.25</td><td>820</td><td>2,279 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1166/WA/Seattle/Greenwood">Greenwood</a></td><td>$162</td><td>Bank-Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/9029-8th-Ave-SW-98106/home/475006">9029 8th Ave SW</a></td><td>$147,155</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>700</td><td>3,480 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/1246/WA/Seattle/Highland-Park">Highland Park</a></td><td>$210</td><td>Bank-Owned</td></tr><tr><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/7464-S-118th-Pl-98178/home/199165">7464 S 118th Pl</a></td><td>$155,000</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>810</td><td>6,960 sqft</td><td><a
href="http://www.redfin.com/city/21634/WA/Bryn-Mawr-Skyway">Bryn Mawr-Skyway</a></td><td>$191</td><td>-</td></tr></table><p><b>Stats for Seattle Single-Family Homes Under $200,000</b><br
/> Total on market: 41<br
/> Average number of beds: 2.0<br
/> Average number of baths: 1.1<br
/> Average square footage: 1,178<br
/> Average days on market: 63</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://seattlebubble.com/blog/2009/04/03/cheapest-seattle-homes-april-edition/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>99</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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