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Posted by S-Crow on April 20th, 2008 at 1:10 AM · 23 Comments
Note: Once again, if you are looking for data and graphs, this post is not for you.
So much could be said about this issue. One of the most fascinating developments to see unfold and the one theme I keep coming back to is how powerful blogging has been in shaping the mind-set of the public when it comes to the real estate market, both nationally and locally. Not only is it powerful in the psyche of the buying or selling consumer, but also to those who actively work in real estate.
For example, there has been an enormous effort within the real estate community to combat negative housing sentiment. It is understandable. But, I also think that the effort serves two purposes. First, it is to combat a deteriorating market perception for the public. Second, it is to thwart the potential fallout from within the rank and file who work in the industry.
What’s so different about our market correction today than last time?
- Access to information.
- Bloggers vs. NAR. (real estate industry unable to counter bloggers using both video and blogs)
- Bloggers vs. Newspapers.
- Bloggers breaking down data.
- Bloggers sharing news or breaking news.
Rather than have circa 1990 technology to obtain information regarding all things real estate related, today we have what I consider information overload. I can’t keep up with it myself. It’s overwhelming.
Zillow.com, for my money, was instrumental in removing the price curtain from the real estate machine. This forced an entire industry to change or adapt. While people will argue about current value accuracy or Zestimates, the compelling number of immeasurable value is the disclosure of what a property recently sold for. Armed with this information, consumers can make decisions along with their real estate agent as to how to best position offers or whether or not purchasing is best for them at a given time.
In a classic case of blogging for mind share, I see countless references by real estate agents locally and around the country arguing to “put the market into perspective, only 1 percent of all outstanding mortgages are in default.” Quite swiftly, a contrarian blogger responds, that’s “good news, because if it were more than one percent, I can’t imagine how bad things would be. Bear Stearns would be only one of scores of financial players to collapse, and who knows, maybe we will have more to come?”
To conclude:
If contrarion bloggers on Seattle Bubble find that the market has shifted in a positive direction, it could very well be that those very contrarions will lead the charge to a swift and meaningful recovery, one of which could rival anything we’ve seen to date.
And then, The Tim will have a conundrum on his hands. What then to do with the “bubble” part of the title.
S-Crow
Categories: News · Opinion · Uncategorized
Tags: Real Estate Psychology, S-Crow
Posted by S-Crow on February 4th, 2008 at 8:43 AM · 13 Comments
I know there are a lot of home improvement hounds out there like me, so…..
If anyone would like discounted ($2 off Adult admission) Seattle Home Show coupons for weekday admission, please e-mail me with your contact information and I’ll get them in the mail to you. Show is from Feb 16-24. Weekday show hours: Monday 10am -8:30pm and Tues.-Friday from 11am -8:30pm.
Bonus: you all can get a t- shirt from Ray at the show. (teasing Ray, just teasing.)
Categories: Uncategorized
Tags: Home Improvement, S-Crow
Posted by The Tim on October 3rd, 2007 at 11:16 AM · 19 Comments
Forbes just loves to frame their articles around lists. You may recall Seattle showing up frequently on previous such real-estate-related lists, such as Best Places to Flip a Home (#1), Richest Cities In The U.S. (#8), Best Cities For Jobs (#34), and Most Overpriced Places In The U.S. 2005 (#1). Well, lucky us, we made yet another Forbes list: America’s Most Stable Housing Markets (sort of like picking out the warmest hangouts in Antarctica).
Nationwide, home prices are falling, sales are sluggish and the number of foreclosures is mounting. Ask any economist and you’ll hear that things are bad, and likely to get worse.
Unless you live in Seattle, where the market is slowing but fundamentals remain strong.
“Fundamentals remain strong” appears to be nothing more than code for “prices haven’t fallen… yet.” Here in Seattle, things aren’t yet “bad,” but they are almost certainly likely to get worse. I guess being “barely ok, and likely to get worse” is enough to catapult us to the top of the list.
The Emerald City has experienced strong price appreciation over the last six quarters, and that’s expected to continue in the new year, though at a slower pace. In addition to a very low housing inventory and a strong sales rate…
Wait, did he just say “a very low housing inventory”? That’s a riot. And while sales have been slowing YOY for 21 of the last 22 months, I will grant that through July, it could still be described as a “strong sales rate.” July’s sales were higher than every year outside of 2003-2006. Of course, with the tightening mortgage market, sales in August came to a screeching halt, coming in lower than any August since 2001… but we’ll let that slide, since Forbes probably isn’t working off of data that current.
…there are few non-conforming and high-risk loans on the books than in other cities, which means the area will likely see fewer defaults in the coming months than the rest of the country’s markets.
Really? I suppose with a statement as vague as “than in other cities,” it’s true. But the list of qualifying “other cities” is frankly pretty short. We’re right up there with most of the other cities that started experiencing increasing foreclosures once the appreciation music stopped. For more on the loan picture, check out this and this.
To arrive at our list, we teamed with Moody’s Economy.com to develop three prediction models based on a range of factors that affect how prices move. These include, among other things, the state of local economies, new construction contracts, foreclosure rates, local credit markets, sales rates, affordability and inventory.
[From the slide show:]
Median home price:$395,000
Annual price change from 2006: 8.9%
Projected price change to 2008: 3.09%
Moody’s Economy.com sure seems to be fickle with these predictions. Just last month CNN reported on “an analysis conducted by Moody’s Economy.com” that showed prices in “Seattle-Bellevue-Everett” declining 2.9%.
Also, it’s not at all clear from the article what specific geographical area they’re referring to when they say “Seattle.” It’s definitely not just the city of Seattle, where the median home price sat at $439,000 last month. It’s also apparently not King County, where the median is $415,000. My best guess is that they’re using some combination of King, Pierce, and Snohomish counties—which makes the prediction of continued price increases seem even more unlikely to come true.
In related news, the author of this piece and the previously-featured “Best Places to Flip a Home,” Matt Woolsey, contacted me after my post about that article:
I came across your blog while looking for information on Seattle real estate and I must say a lot of the analysis looks great. Your apparent desire to punch me in the face regarding the flipping story is of some concern to me for my next visit to your city, but I nonetheless will continue to follow your site. For future consideration, you should know that all of our stories are comprised of data driven analysis
For the record, my comment that I would “really like to gut-punch these reporters” was tongue-in-cheek. You have nothing to fear in Seattle, Matt. Well, not from me, anyway. I can’t speak for anyone that giddily jumped into the market to flip a house after reading that article, only to find that the time for flipping in Seattle is long gone…
(Matt Woolsey, Forbes, 10.01.2007)
Categories: Uncategorized
Tags: Forbes, fundamentals, mortgages, predictions, Woolsey
Posted by S-Crow on August 27th, 2007 at 10:26 PM · 22 Comments
I just happen to look up at the ticker when I was in Times Square about a week or so ago (8/17) after a quick subway train ride up from Wall Street. Then shortly after, the following message in the picture below showed and I quickly took a shot of it. This was on Friday after the Fed injected another round of Billions into the market. These photos pretty much sums up the market over the last couple weeks.
After arriving home at 2:30AM Wednesday last week I had but a few hours of shut eye and then promptly drove all the way to Idaho. On the way back home this past weekend I felt the urge to take it slow and go HWY 2 and visit the Grand Coulee Dam and then onward to the North Cascades Highway via the beautiful Methow Valley and Okanogan countryside. I told my kids that one of the trips this summer had to include some historical background for a bit of education. The Grand Coulee Dam was it.
Well, during the visit I came away absolutely awestruck. We all went upstairs to the visitors center Theater and watched a 50 minute documentary on why the Grand Coulee Dam was built: It was part of the New Deal by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to put people back to work after the devastation created by the Stock Market Crash of October, 1929. The documentary spent several minutes discussing, with actual 1929 footage of the floor in a frenzy at the NYSE, the events leading to the New Deal by FDR and subsequent Federal backing of building the Grand Coulee Dam.
While only a handful of people were in the Theater, I noticed an old couple sitting two rows down from us and I could not help but notice they were knodding there heads up and down (presumably in agreement with what was being said) and from side to side (presumably in agreement and disbelief that they or people they knew went through that period) during some intense footage of the desperation across America.
During the documentary I could not help but think, my gosh, I was at ground zero (Wall Street) just a few days ago where it all began, and then to see this monumental icon of American engineering, ingenuity, brutal work and symbol of both the dark days of America and at the same time the symbol of what is great about this country. Some of the quotes in the documentary by the financial elite are eerily similar to what we hear today about the economy and health of the banking system. There was even mention of how the FDIC was created back then to guarantee deposits and thus reduce the possibility of there ever being a run on banks.
The Grand Coulee Dam took many years to build and 12 Million Cubic Yards of concrete. It produces the most electrical power in North America and it currently is the largest concrete structure in America and the third largest Hydroelectic plant on earth. Excavation began in 1933 and it was essentially complete in 1941. Subsequent upgrades and pumping stations followed and now irrigates roughly a half million acres of farmland in what is today the Columbia Basin. It is a must see if you ever get a chance.
Photo of the Grand Coulee Dam (a mile long) this past Saturday. A symbol of both the dark and bright periods in American history. Sorry this post too long, but I hope some find the symbolism, as I did, very educational.
Categories: Uncategorized
Tags: economy, escrow, S-Crow, Uncategorized
Posted by The Tim on July 27th, 2007 at 7:56 AM · 40 Comments
Are prices in Seattle based on strong fundamentals or speculation? While we can certainly look at the data and draw conclusions for ourselves, there is little to no hard information out there about how many people are buying merely to turn a quick buck.
There are those that treat the lack of hard data regarding speculative buying as evidence that there is little to none of it occurring in Seattle. I highly doubt that is the case (for reasons discussed here numerous times before), but even if we assume that it were true up to this point, I’m inclined to think that speculation in Seattle is on the rise.
Exhibit A: Thursday’s Seattle P-I front-page story about a local flip:
The last time Al Johnson was inside the house at 4425 Cascadia Ave. S. in Columbia City, there were no walls.
“You’ve done a nice job,” Johnson told owner Thomas Loeser after touring the rehabilitated 1911 Craftsman house Monday.
Johnson, an associate broker with Windermere Real Estate, was the listing agent who sold the “extreme fixer” in February to Loeser and his brother, Derek — lawyers when they’re not fixing up houses.
In recent years, many developers have fixed up run-down houses and then put them right back on the market. The Loesers’ house offers an extreme example.
They paid $315,000 for the run-down abode Feb. 20 and put it back on the market for $549,000 last weekend. Thomas Loeser wouldn’t say how much they spent on renovations, but acknowledged that one agent who said back in February the house would take $150,000 in work wasn’t far off.
Johnson speculated just before the sale that the house, once fixed up, could fetch $150,000 over the sales price in the current market — at most.
So, $549,000?
“Let’s see what happens,” Johnson, who is not representing the house this time, said Monday.
Exhibit B: #1 on Forbes’ latest list, “Best Places to Flip a Home“? You guessed it… Seattle!
Flipping—in which an investor buys a home, makes quick improvements and resells at a higher price—”was a rage in the housing market surge,” says Anthony Sanders, a professor of real estate finance at Arizona State University. “But it is not as popular in this flat housing market.”
It’s easy to understand why. With prices falling quarter after quarter, the prospect of buying low and selling lower doesn’t sound nearly as appealing as buying low and selling high.
However, those looking to make a quick buck may do so in a number of markets ripe for a well-spotted flip.
Best among them is Seattle. It landed atop our list based on a number of measures.
I’m not a violent person by nature, but part of me would really like to gut-punch these reporters that are encouraging people to go out there and jump into Seattle’s already-stalling housing market to try to turn a quick buck. The days of easy money from flipping real estate in Seattle are over (if they were ever even here to begin with).
Exhibit C: Anyone seen or heard from “Seattle Eric” lately?
(Aubrey Cohen, Seattle P-I, 07.25.2007)
(Matt Woolsey, Forbes, 07.26.2007)
P.S. (For those not in the know, Seattle Eric was the proprietor of a blog titled Tales of a Seattle Real Estate Investor (formerly located at this address), where he chronicled his quest to flip houses in Seattle for fun and profit. He was also a contributor over at Rain City Guide for a short while. The last time anyone heard from him, he had gotten out of the flipping business to become a real estate agent, and was still having trouble unloading a few of his houses.)
Addendum: Be sure to check out a relatively new Seattle-area blog that focuses specifically on local flips: ReMuddle. I have added a link to them on the sidebar under Bubble Sites -> Regionals. Thanks to RedmondJP for pointing them out in the forum. Speaking of the forum, also be sure to check out the long-running thread on this very subject: Audacious Flips and Renovations.
Categories: Uncategorized
Tags: anecdote, Cohen, Forbes, Seattle_PI, speculation, Woolsey
Posted by The Tim on June 22nd, 2007 at 11:31 AM · 69 Comments
Forbes has come out with yet another real estate “Top 10″ list, this time gabbing on about the “Top Home Sellers’ Markets.” Interestingly, Seattle is conspicuously absent from the list. They explain:
The Methodology
To measure inventory glut, we used Moody’s Economy.com and National Association of Realtors data that tracked a market’s current sales rate by projecting the amount of time it would take to sell off the excess housing stock at the current rate of sales.
We also looked at the change in sales rate over the last year to measure the relative tightening or loosening of the market. Finally, a measure of price stability was applied so as to prevent the list from being a rundown of upstart markets.
The measurements left out a few cities that lacked comprehensive data. Seattle, for example, has incredibly strong market fundamentals—the lowest vacancy rate of major metros at 0.9% and is a small geographic area not conducive to overproduction. It is a good seller’s market, but for tracking what we were after, Seattle data was incomplete for our analysis.
I’m not sure why their data was “incomplete” for Seattle, and I imagine that if they had access to everything they were looking for, it probably would have been on their list. However, while Seattle might be a better sellers’ market than most of the country, all indications are that we have been granted only a temporary reprieve.
While the language in the article makes their calculations sound fancy and complicated, it would appear that their primary measure of whether a city has a good “sellers’ market” comes by dividing the total monthly sales by the current number of homes for sale. This is commonly referred to as “months of supply” (MOS), but they are referring to it as the “rate of sales.” Here’s a graph of King County’s SFH from 2005 to the present:
Forbes mentions that they “also looked at the change in sales rate over the last year to measure the relative tightening or loosening of the market.” As you can see, the Seattle market can only be described as “loosening.” At the end of May, MOS stood at 3.02, up 59% from last May’s value of 1.89, which was itself up 18% from the May 2005 value of 1.61.
Sales have been declining at an average rate of 10% year-to-year for the past 19 months:
While inventory has been increasing by over 24% year-to-year for over a year:
Is Seattle presently a seller’s market? Probably. Will it still be a seller’s market by the end of the year?
“Outlook not so good.”
(Matt Woolsey, Forbes.com, 06.22.2007)
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Tags: Forbes, inventory, months of supply, Seattle_is_special, Statistics, Woolsey