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Bottom-Calling: Dollars per Square Foot Linear Forecast

By The Tim on February 17th, 2009 at 6:00 AM · 54 Comments

For our next forecast, let’s refer to a dataset that we’ve only gone to once before on Seattle Bubble: Radar Logic’s Residential Property Index.

Radar Logic analyzes home sales and produces a running index of sale prices in the Seattle metro area in terms of dollars per square foot.

Here are our basic assumptions for the Dollars per Square Foot Linear forecast:

  • The 2000 to early 2004 trendline for Seattle home prices represents a reasonable baseline.
  • Prices on a $/sqft basis will continue falling at present rate.
  • The bottom will be 10% below the historical trend line.

Given these assumptions, here’s a rough picture of what Seattle’s Radar Logic Residential Property Index would look like through late 2009:

Bottom-Calling Method 2: Dollars per Square Foot Linear Forecast

Using the Dollars per Square Foot Linear forecast model, Seattle-area home prices (as measured by Radar Logic) will hit bottom late this year to early next year.

This method seems to give us a fairly reasonable prediction. The historical trend (red dashed line in the chart above) represents home price growth of approximately 5% per year in the years just prior to the housing bubble. Of course, it is certainly open for debate whether 5% annual growth is truly sustainable in the long-term, and whether 10% below that trendline is a reasonable bottom. If you believe, as some do, that unsustainable price growth has been taking place since the late ’90s, the bottom would obviously be much later and lower than shown above.

Also note that this forecast method and the three that remain in Bottom-Calling Week do not forecast any further into the future than the bottom month. Once the bottom is reached, the forecast is halted.

Method 2: Dollars per Square Foot Linear Forecast (Summary)
Bottom Month: December 2009
Bottom Value: 30.7% off peak
Likelihood*: 20%

* Likelihood is a totally subjective value assigned according to The Tim’s gut feeling. Treat it accordingly.

Bottom-Calling Week on Seattle Bubble

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Radar Logic Shows Seattle MSA Price per Square Foot Dropping at 17% per Year

By deejayoh on April 10th, 2008 at 8:00 AM · 30 Comments

Many of you are aware of the “Residential Property Index” published for the top 25 MSAs by Radar Logic. Radar Logic has a similar business model to MacroMarkets with the Case-Shiller Index (e.g., creating housing-based contracts to be traded on a futures market) but there are some key differences in the way that they calculate their index. Here is a quick overview:

  • Radar Logic’s index is based on ALL sales in a market. They do not ignore any sales that appear to be outliers. As such, Radar Logic does not use a “paired sales” methodology
  • As a means to make transactions comparable, Radar Logic tracks markets based on the price of a house per square foot, rather than the overall price of the house
  • Radar Logic reports their index daily – not monthly. The data is published on their site 60 days in arrears (so as of the date of this analysis, prices were available through February 5)
  • In order to smooth the daily impact of low sales volumes, etc, they offer rolling 7 and 28 day averages. The 28-day average is the one most comparable to other indices.
  • Like Case-Shiller, the reporting unit for Seattle is the MSA – which includes King, Snohomish and Pierce counties.

The index for Seattle shows a fairly familiar picture. A market that peaked in June of last year, that has fallen steadily since then, and has just recently turned negative on a year over year basis. I was interested in how fast things were off from the peak. When one looks at the rate of decline since the peak in June, things look a little different.

Seattle MSA

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According to Radar Logic – prices in Seattle peaked on June 26, 2007 at $236.16 per square foot. Since then, prices have dropped fairly steadily to their current level of $211.63. That’s a drop of 10.4% in just over 7 months. On an annualized basis, this means prices per square foot in the Seattle MSA are dropping at a rate of 17%. What I also found kind of interesting in looking at this chart is how consistent the rate of appreciation appeared to be between 2000 and 2004. As you can see by the line I’ve added, it was almost linear at ~6.4% per year. If you extend this rate of appreciation through today, you’d have seen prices at about $185 per square foot – or 12% under current levels.

The fact that we’re only 8 months past the peak is very important. The papers are still reporting the year over year changes, and interpreting the lack of a significant drop as evidence that Seattle has dodged the bullet. However, as this index (and Case-Shiller, and the median) shows, even if the market is able to trade sideways for the next 4 months – we are still looking at double digit price drops in July.

Since Radar Logic also offers indices for 25 other MSAs, here is a comparison to some other West Coast markets:

Market Comparisons

As you can see, Seattle again looks most similar to San Diego in the scale of our downturn – and in this index we lag that market by 13 months. Interestingly, San Francisco and Los Angeles seemed to have peaked much closer to Seattle according to this measure. Like Seattle, all of these markets have already booked double digit declines on a square foot basis inside of a year. The Bay Area (San Francisco) seems particularly hard hit on this metric – tracking to nearly a third off in the space of a year.

At the end of the day, this is just one data point – but when I get enough of them all pointing in the same direction, I start to think I’m on to something!

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Radar Logic: Seattle Going Into the Red

By The Tim on February 20th, 2008 at 10:52 AM · 19 Comments

Uh-oh, looks like Seattle is starting to get some negative national attention. As in, coverage that isn’t saying “wow, look what a strong, resilient housing market,” but rather “looks like Seattle’s housing market is poised to fall.”

Seattle, wake up and smell the coffee, your housing prices may be falling faster than foam on a latte.

Seattle, whose job growth from such companies as Boeing Co, Microsoft Corp, Google Inc and Starbucks Corp, is seeing the strength of its housing market eroding, Jonathan Miller, Radar Logic director of research, said on Tuesday at the Reuters Housing Summit.

Seattle has ranked about the top of all the U.S. housing markets over the past few years, Miller said. Prices have appreciated at about 12 percent to 16 percent yearly.

This past summer, the appreciation rate fell to 9 percent. Today its stands at about 1.5 percent. Meanwhile, the inventory of unsold homes in that market climbed at 40 percent over the last year.

“You can really see a top market like Seattle, which has been consistently performing well, going into the red,” said Miller.

It’s nice to hear something about Seattle’s housing market in the national media that isn’t of the “real estate party in Washington” variety. It’s true, things really are slowing down here. Prices have been falling since the summer, and not just in the usual seasonal way.

If you’re interested in checking out Radar Logic’s data, head over to their website, where you can generate nifty graphs of home prices and transaction volumes so you can see for yourself what Mr. Miller is talking about.

(Ilaina Jonas, Reuters, 02.19.2008)

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