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Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else
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The Tim
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 Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Heh, I thought this piece in the Seattle Times was amusing: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere elseJohn Moe wrote: I think we need to talk. About us. Or, more specifically, about the lack of "us." Ooh, I've been dreading this conversation, but it's a conversation that needs to happen. One that's been a long time coming, quite frankly. OK, OK. Here goes.
I know you've been really busy lately, so you may not have noticed that I haven't been ... around ... so much. Perhaps you've even noticed that all my stuff is gone. It's true, Seattle. I've moved out, and I'm breaking up with you.
...over time, people and cities grow. They change. And sometimes they do so in very different ways. I think that's what happened to you and me. We started to drift apart. The little gripes and quirks that you have, those things that I've always been able to tolerate and even find charming at times, really began to bug the heck out of me. Things like your cost of living for a family, for instance, or your fumbling around on transportation issues (although I must admit, that Sound Transit train is going to look simply adorable on you). Also — I'm just going to come out and say it, Seattle — THE RAIN! No blame here; I know you can't help it, it's a chronic meteorological condition. I lived with it for decades, even convinced myself I enjoyed it, but I think I reached the saturation point, you know?
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rose-colored-coolaid
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else It was a good read. I just can't understand why anyone would leave a world class city; London, NYC, Tokyo, Seattle, Moscow, Paris, Hong Kong, Sydney. This guy must have no taste.
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Cougar
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else I'm not alone! Did we have an extra long winter here or what? Or could it be I am facing a midlife as well. I am turning 50 this month and took a "gap" year, the kind you usually take before college, to explore ideas for my future. Living here all of my 50 I was surprised at how dark this winter was and how it really took a toll on my sunny outlook. Today is the first warm overcast day worthy of shorts. Can Seattle ever become world class with this weather, can the four months of great beauty override the eight months of soggy gray? Gray skies, gray buildings, gray everwhere!
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ira s
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else It sure gets to me too, but I never had that sunny a disposition to begin with.
Now, when we've had weeks without sunshine, and near daily rain or hail, I scream out loud " I can't take this f***ing bull****!"
Just don't know how well I'd fit in in St. Paul. I'm not much for ice fishing, I don't think.
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Lake Hills Renter
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else I love it here, even the climate. The rain doesn't bother me at all, I rather like it in fact. It's getting dark at 4pm that starts to wear thin after a while. But we make up for it with dark at 11pm in the summer.
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PublicEnemy#1
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else As someone who moved from Seattle last July to a city in the Midwest, all I can say is, "Don't knock it 'til you have tried it!". A Midwest city which, by the way, recently was shown to have more Fortune 500 companies than Seattle and ranked in the top 10 percent (out of 373) for quality of life. We quit having snow weeks ago, what about you? It was 75 yesterday and 65 today... We are expecting rain tonight though, through part of tomorrow, so those of us who grew up in Seattle can feel at home for a day or two. I am not knocking Seattle's high cost of living and insane governmental decisions. The high cost of living in Seattle (e.g. property taxes, housing costs, utilities, etc.), combined with a ridiculous commute, forced me to eventually sell my house in the south end and allowed me to pay cash for my 1929 Tudor Revival here. Life's too short for high blood pressure. 
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Lake Hills Renter
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else PublicEnemy#1 wrote: As someone who moved from Seattle last July to a city in the Midwest, all I can say is, "Don't knock it 'til you have tried it!". Dunno if you were referring to me, but I spent 30 years in Texas, so I've definitely tried it enough to knock it. There is absoliutely nothing that would ever make me want to go back. I'm only in Seattle because I work there -- I'd rather live outside the metro, probably farther north -- but for me anything east of the Rockies is off my radar permanently. I gotta have mountains.
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PublicEnemy#1
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Nope, wasn't referring to you, just a general reply to the posting... I quit enjoying the mountains when I lived in Reno and had to time my trips to SFO in the winter to ensure I wouldn't get stuck up there for a day or two. Nice to look at, but a pain to drive over in winter. Snoqualmie is a piece of cake by comparison, but I still wouldn't want to live in Cle Elum and commute to Seattle, as some people are doing.
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Markor
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Lake Hills Renter wrote: I love it here, even the climate. The rain doesn't bother me at all, I rather like it in fact. It's getting dark at 4pm that starts to wear thin after a while. But we make up for it with dark at 11pm in the summer. I second this. I even dread the sunny days!
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Robroy
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else I've lived in the Seattle area since 1967.
I'm looking at SW Kentucky. Seriously.
Just can't take the politics and culture here any more, although I do enjoy feeding the gulls at Ivars and riding my bike down the second avenue express.
It just aint worth it any more.
It might crimp my bike style a bit, but Kentucky and surrounding areas are a motorcycle paradise.
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WestSideBilly
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Complaining is universal.
We complain about the rain/gray/dark all winter, then complain when it's sunny & 85 that it's too damn hot.
Midwesterners (and Northeasterners) complain from November through March that it's too cold, too much snow, they're sick of shoveling, their skin is dry, etc - then complain from June - August that it's too hot, too humid, the thunderstorms are screwing up their plans, and at least this year, their house is under water.
Southerners complain from May through October that it's too hot, and they wish it was February again so they could stand to be outside.
I won't even get into Californians complaining about the weather.
As for dysfunction, well that's pretty universal too. Though I must give credit to Seattle for being so vocal about how bad traffic is (which is understandable) while out the other side of their mouth being so adamant that someone else should pay for it.
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Robroy
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Actually, if my gas taxes and license fees went to actual road construction, I'd be happy.
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Markor
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Robroy wrote: Actually, if my gas taxes and license fees went to actual road construction, I'd be happy. Seems to me there is way too much road construction! E.g., I-90 over Mercer Island was under construction for years, now they're ripping it up again. I-405 is being widened, uglified. I think roads are in great shape around here overall, I'd just like to see zero growth for once. Zero growth (not zero improvement) in the long run is the only way the city is going to still be here in the long run.
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PublicEnemy#1
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Part of the fun of moving to a new part of the country are the inevitable questions from locals when they find out you are from Seattle, (e.g. Do you miss having a Starbuck's on every corner?)
There are some AMAZING parks and forests and woods here that make you realize that forests don't always consist of just coniferous trees.
And the roads go everywhere. Six different ways until Sunday to get somewhere. If a road is congested from construction, get off of it and take another one that will get you there.
But, at least, the traffic is almost non-existent and yes, people DO complain at rush hour because they can only go 45 or 50 mph on the freeways, lol!
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WestSideBilly
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Re: Sorry, Seattle - I've found somewhere else Markor wrote: Seems to me there is way too much road construction! E.g., I-90 over Mercer Island was under construction for years, now they're ripping it up again. I-405 is being widened, uglified. I think roads are in great shape around here overall, I'd just like to see zero growth for once. Zero growth (not zero improvement) in the long run is the only way the city is going to still be here in the long run. Where do you drive? Seattle's roads are among the worst in the country, despite one of the best climates for road survivability (though studded tires being legal greatly accelerates the demise of the surface). Most of the cities in the midwest and northeast do a better job maintaining and repairing roads, despite having to deal with constant freeze/thaw cycles, substantially higher temperature variations, and a lot of chemicals getting added to the road surface (salt/deicing agents). I-5 from I-405 to I-405 wouldn't even qualify as a freeway in most places. 520 from I-5 to the first east side exit is marginal. Alaskan Way is crap. 3/4 of the surface streets in Seattle proper need to be rebuilt, not just repaved. Spokane Street and the elevated structure above it are beyond repair.
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