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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby WestSideBilly » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:00 am

Isn't 14 another term for agnostic?
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby rose-colored-coolaid » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:20 am

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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby WestSideBilly » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:18 am

Thanks for the clarification. I've always self-identified as an agnostic but never really thought of the different shades of gray that that encompasses.

To the point, I often wondered if an openly atheist major party presidential candidate would ever have a chance in the modern political climate. I'm fairly certain an openly Muslim candidate would not.
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby Alan » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:28 pm

I think 50/50 is pretty strong belief for an agnostic.

Do you believe there is a 50% chance of the flying spaghetti monster actually existing?
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby rose-colored-coolaid » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:47 pm

Is anyone else starting to get a little creeped out by McCain? If you are, I think I can explain why.

Take a gander at a recent McCain photo.

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Am I the only one who is faintly reminded of Dick Cheney?
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Follow-up question. Who else out there thinks that McCain is starting to regret picking the fake Tina Fey. He would have been better off with the real one. First, her approval rating is much higher. Second, she has more foreign experience. Third, she has more executive experience. Finally, she reads and can speak in coherent sentences.

Final question, with polls narrowing (as they usually do), it's not certain that McCain will lose. If he wins, and then for medical reasons Palin is forced to take over, will that mean that we've finally reached a low regarding caliber of our leadership and we've nowhere to go but up? Or, does it mean we're going to just keep getting worst and worst presidents? I mean, what could be worst? Whoopi and Hasselbeck from the View? A Michael Bay and Mike Tyson ticket? Jose Canseco??
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby Charles Dean » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:12 pm

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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby WestSideBilly » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:51 pm

Something I've been mulling over for a few days:

What's the effect on down ticket races if Obama is called the winner for Virginia (likely) and North Carolina (possible) by 8pm EST? If he wins those two states, there's basically no scenario for McCain to win... would evening voters in the rest of the country show up? If not, would that help or hurt Republicans?

My initial thought was that nobody would vote for a "loser" so it'd possibly push to the left some of the close Senate races, as well as Rossi/Gregoire.
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby rose-colored-coolaid » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:25 pm

In case you haven't seen it, this is yet. The whole thing is great, but skip ahead to 1:40, and you'll learn just what Sarah Palin really did for some $100k a year as mayor Wasilla. Good spot at 4:00 about Todd Palin's ties to AIP.
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby Charles Dean » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:23 pm

I saw that the other night. Pretty hilarious.

You know, if I was from NYC, I think I would be pretty pissed at everyone in small town america who talks about 9/11 constantly. People in small towns have ZERO risk from terrorist attacks, but are the most terrified of it.

I'm interested to see how close Gregoire/Rossi is. I'll bet it's a pretty close race again. She's not the most popular governor, but she's not universally hated either.
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby Charles Dean » Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:22 am

I completely agree with you. I can't recall an election in the recent past that had more devisive speech than what we are seeing right now. Implying that because someone disagrees with you makes them less american than you is a very slippery slope.
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby rose-colored-coolaid » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:50 pm

As sports fan knows, one of the best ways to really lose (not just lose, but lose horribly and uncontrollably) is to .

So, here's the question we're faced with : does Palin look like a terrible pick because McCain made a bad choice, or because McCain could get the right people to manage her? Either way, he looks like a doofus. The other question is, does she have any future in 2012?

Spoiler - I think she's as finished on the national stage as Dan Quayle and that in 2 years she'll be vulnerable for governor.
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Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Postby Charles Dean » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:03 pm

I think she's done nationally. If the GOP had been smart, what they would've done was seen what they had and started grooming her now for a run in 2012 without putting her in the national spotlight right now.

If she had been properly vetted, I think that they would've realized just how grossly underprepared she is for the national stage. But if she had a few years under her belt, she could've killed this election, or 2012.

As it stands, she'll make a run in 2012, but I think she's done nationally. She'll write a few books and make millions on book deals and speaking engagements.
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