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Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

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Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:10 pm
by rose-colored-coolaid
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

Posted:
Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:06 pm
by rose-colored-coolaid
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

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Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:44 pm
by Robroy
Palin hit it out of the park tonight. I was literally stunned at what I was hearing and how it was being presented.
Meanwhile, I think y'all will LOVE this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-h ... 23477.html
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

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Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:53 pm
by deejayoh
Here's a Wordle map of her speech

Anyone else notice by taking the "L" out of her name, you can make the ticket "McCain/PAIN"
fun with the alphabet
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

Posted:
Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:04 pm
by Charles Dean
She was good tonight, but I'd hardly say she hit it out of the park. She did a good job at speaking to her base and getting the arena pumped up.
However, and this has been for the last two days of the convention, the only thing the Republicans have right now is a "not Obama" campaign. They don't have any ideas on how to change anything other than to cut taxes right now. So all they can do is attack rather than lay out plans for what can be done to make things better right now.
I totally agree with Rose. The idea of an executive who has the power to detain anyone they choose for any reason they imagine, or not even give a reason, not allow them a trial and just jail them indefinitely. That is truly terrifying.
We are supposed to have a government with checks and balances in order to avoid this sort of abuse of power.
Saddam Hussein got his day in court. Nazis got their day in court. Mizlovech got his day in court. These were all terrible people. But they were all granted their day in court. And I think that as Americans that's something that we should not deny anyone in the world. After all, would we as American citizens be OK with an American citizen being detained indefinitely with no charges brought against them? Even if they were an alleged murderer?
Anyway, I give it a B-. she spoke well and got the base riled up, but ultimately all she had to say is, "NoBama".
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

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Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:14 pm
by redmondjp
Taking that a bit further, Deejayoh: McSame-Pain!
I watched her speech tonight as well and thought it was excellent. I didn't agree with all of it, and of course much of it was the usual rhetoric -- e.g.how McCain has been fighting the Washington establishment for his whole career bla bla bla -- guess what folks? He IS the Washington establishment! As well as his whole campaign team, who consist primarily of lobbyists for all of the biggest global corporations and even middle-eastern countries!
But I agree with Robroy on the fact that she hit it out of the park tonight. I switched over to PBS after the speech to see their talking heads' reactions, and boy were some of them seething because they knew it too! Gwen Ifill was spinning like a top from the get-go, trying to make it out how the whole speech was Obama-bashing (how DARE they!!!).
OK, back to the regularly-scheduled topic now in 3 . . . 2. . . .
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

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Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:33 am
by Charles Dean
I was actually thinking more about it last night and this morning and I know that the #1 issue with voters is the economy, right? So far, the only thing I've heard from the convention is Obama will raise your taxes. Which, is only true for the top 2% of the country.
No actual solutions on what to do about the economy.
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

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Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:53 am
by david_mcmanus
Just curious, but has the NAR endorsed a candidate yet?
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

Posted:
Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:32 am
by rose-colored-coolaid
Re: June Case Shiller numbers / Political Smackdown FFA

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Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:35 am
by The Tim
Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

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Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:43 am
by Charles Dean
I disagree. Obama is not running as not-Bush. He's actually put forward quite alot about what policies he will have and what sort of things he will do to bring about change. Kerry was running not-Bush. I always hated him as a candidate. He had very little substance to his campaign.
Although I guess it could be said that McCain is running as not Bush/Not Obama.
Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

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Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:17 am
by Charles Dean
And just for fun, here's Jon Stewart from last night taking on the media:
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/ind ... oId=184086
Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

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Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:04 pm
by rose-colored-coolaid
I realized today why I wasn't as impressed with Palin's speech as I thought I needed to be (that's the C+ grade I gave it prior to declaring her dead to me). The problem is she seems kind of bitter, and I get the impression that she clings to her religion and guns because of it. Maybe it's her small town roots...I don't know.
Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

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Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:32 pm
by The Tim
Re: Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

Posted:
Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:54 pm
by Charles Dean