are humans causing global warming?

[jon]

[lamont]

[Robroy]

So, from this article: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 83,00.html

A couple of snippets:


There has not been a public debate about the causes of global warming and most of the public and our decision makers are not aware of the most basic salient facts:

The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980).

The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.

If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again.

[Robroy]

A "solar minimum" means less activity, but also a warmer sun. It is arguable that it would, or would not, have the impact of directly causing certain warming trends in history (including the last one), but it should be brought out that "solar minimum" does not mean less heat. It means less surface activity and actually suggests GREATER heat.

[lamont]

[lamont]

[lamont]

[jon]

[Robroy]

[Ubersalad]

Holy cow...how the hell did this thread get 6 pages? I won't even bother reading it.

Overpopulation alone is enough evidence.

[Robroy]

Here is a great source of info on the subject: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/about-us

And the FAQ and Myths section is interesting as well: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/faqs-and-myths

[Robroy]

[rose-colored-coolaid]

[Robroy]

[Notabull]