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"No ‘crisis’ at banks in state"

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"No ‘crisis’ at banks in state"

Postby hungrybear » Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:46 am

Did anyone else see in the News Tribune by the CEO of the Washington Bankers association? Those who read Calculated Risk and other blogs may recognize this kind of "reassurance" as a danger sign. Didn't IndyMac say the same thing before they went under? Not to mention he seems to completly ignore WaMu and it's exposure to subprime. Also what about our local banks exposure to construction loans both residential and commercial? Those our probably a way bigger danger than subprime loans at this point.
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Re: "No ‘crisis’ at banks in state"

Postby Robroy » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:50 pm

This is just my personal opinion. If I were forced to bet on whether Wamu would succeed or fail, I would choose fail, in a heartbeat. That is, assuming "government bailout" was not an option.
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Re: "No ‘crisis’ at banks in state"

Postby Niuska » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:34 am

I doubt they will "fail" in the way that some smaller banks fail. With smaller banks, they disappear on a Friday and reopen Monday as a branch of the FDIC.

With a larger bank (like WaMu) they will be pushed by regulators to make a shotgun marriage with a stronger bank at a huge discounted share price. See Bear Stearns at $2 per share.

These larger banks that are in trouble (WaMu, Wachovia, National City) are too complicated for the government to handle an orderly transition. They need another similar large bank with experience to take over the assets and obligations.

Small banks are simple. They have deposits and loans.
Most of the larger banks have many subsidiaries with their fingers involved in Wall Street complex financial instruments. Unwinding that by the government would be a disaster. That is part of the reason Bear Stearns for pushed into the arms of JP Morgan Chase.

Just my opinion on how this will happen.
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Re: "No ‘crisis’ at banks in state"

Postby deejayoh » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:26 am

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Re: "No ‘crisis’ at banks in state"

Postby hungrybear » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:44 am

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Re: "No ‘crisis’ at banks in state"

Postby TJ_98370 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:59 pm

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Mr. Rogoff predicts a "whopper" bank failure in the next few months. He also predicts big inflation in the U.S. over the next few years. I really hope that he is wrong, because the consequences are not going to be pretty if he is right.
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The worst of the global financial crisis is yet to come and a large U.S. bank will fail in the next few months as the world's biggest economy hits further troubles, former IMF chief economist Kenneth Rogoff said on Tuesday.
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"The U.S. is not out of the woods. I think the financial crisis is at the halfway point, perhaps. I would even go further to say 'the worst is to come'," he told a financial conference.
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"We're not just going to see mid-sized banks go under in the next few months, we're going to see a whopper, we're going to see a big one, one of the big investment banks or big banks," said Rogoff, who is an economics professor at Harvard University and was the International Monetary Fund's chief economist from 2001 to 2004........

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