Presidential Election Political Smackdown FFA

[Robroy]

[Robroy]

[rose-colored-coolaid]

[Robroy]

[Robroy]

[Charles Dean]

REMEMBER:
"Wright" This guy was his pastor and a mentor. He did some very good things, but also said some very bad things. I'll give you this one. However McCain and Palin have their own pastor problems, which aren't getting even close to the attention that Wright has already received.

"Odinga" http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp hardly a connection here at all.

"Ayers" This link is so tenuous and small. They served on a board that worked on education in poor places in Chicago. The review of records from Annenberg turned up nothing, which you predicted would hold some huge revelation about their relationship. In fact, the current president of Annenberg is endorsing John McCain (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/0 ... 32954.html) shouldn't he then denounce her endorsement, rather than having it right at the top of the list? It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier ... It's ridiculous," Republican Rep. Diana Nelson said. "There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It's nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It's so silly."

"Alinsky" Linking him to someone who died long before he had a chance to meet him. Very clever. I can see why a conservative wouldn't like Alinsky's ideas, because he worked for common people and the poor. One of the first community organizers. And we all know that community organizers are very evil people.

"Pfleger" Another link that is tiny. In that Obama worked in Chicago as a community organizer, he helped out Pfleger's work with the poor. What a bastard.

"Marshall" Are you referring to Frank Marshall Davis? Someone who was a friend of his grandfather's who took on a fathering role for Obama when he was young. I'm sure he was influenced by him, but you're talking about someone who was a good friend of his grandfather and someone who helped raise him.

"Farrakhan" Give me a break.

"ACORN" Another popular target for conservatives. We wouldn't want those uppity poor and minorities to start getting any ideas they deserve fairness, would we?

"Wade Rathke" Not only the founder of ACORN, but A UNION MEMBER!!!! WHAT A SON OF A BITCH!!!!!


"Judge a man by the company he keeps!"

So, if we're going to play the association game, let's play then.

Hagee
Keating
G Gordon Liddy
Richard Quinn
US Council for World Freedom
Mustafa Abu Naba'a
Ali Jawad
Kemper Marley
Marylin Shannon


Ifshin, who was just about as radical as Ayers and had more direct contact with McCain than Obama did with Ayers

Alaska Independence Party (Joe Vogler, Chryson and Stoll) which is very disturbing. A cessationist party, whom Palin fully endorses, her husband was a member of for many years and who actually had past ties with Iran. Think about it. If Michelle Obama had been a member of the Socialist party, could you imagine the outrage? Doesn't really go with the country first theme.

Thomas Muthee, witch hunter extrodinaire!

Not to mention all of the lobbyists he's employing on his campaign. These are all people you also don't need to play 6 degrees of separation to connect him to.

Playing a guilt by association argument will put you in a bad place, because we all have strange associations with people. There are people in your life I'm sure that are/have been criminals just like there are in mine. There are people I have worked with whom I know have done very bad things in the past.

Like Biden said, "if you have something to say to a man, say it to his face." McCain will not do this in the debate, because he knows that he'll be opening up Pandora's Box.

[Robroy]

It is hard to take that post seriously. I agree that, as with all candidates, there are skeletons where there really isn't much there, but you attempt to brush away serious issues whith a far to broad brush.

But I am not surprised.

[Robroy]

Ifshin:
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain- ... hin/32880/

And another guy says it best from another site:

The difference between Ifshin and Ayers is a simple one. Ifshin came to understand that he was wrong - that his actions hurt his country. And John McCain forgave him.
Ayers, to this day, regrets that he was not able to bomb more government buildings. He has apologized to no one. And, in fact, Ayers remains proud of his treasonous behavior. And his friendship with Obama is not one of reconciliation, but of conspiracy and sedition.

[Charles Dean]

I'm also not surprised that you don't even try to defend McCain and Palin's associations at all.

[Robroy]

For Odinga you mention a Snopes article about an email and say "hardly a connection at all".

Swell.

But it is not what I was talking about.

I was talking about this.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/ ... rue-story/
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/200 ... mic-jihad/
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71383
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/us-am ... dinga.html

For those who like to watch:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtx ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvLV3d1Eq4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdtirp4X ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvLV3d1Eq4

[Robroy]

[Robroy]

[Robroy]

Hey Charles, here is some of the obama stuff in a nice picture with clickable links:

http://justsaynodeal.com/acorn.html

[rose-colored-coolaid]

[Robroy]

FWIW, I never mentioned nuclear weapons. It was intentional. I don't think they will be necessary. I think other countries are convinced that we will not use them unless someone else does first.

It's like coming to a knife fight with a huge gun but telling the others involved that you will not use it unless they shoot their little popguns first. So you pull out your knife to take on 20 other guys with knives.

Results may vary.

It would be funny if Nukes became our Maginot line.