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Why giving away TVs or bonus instead of reducing price?

Postby newbee » Fri May 18, 2007 4:07 pm

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Postby twistjusty » Fri May 18, 2007 4:42 pm

"A society in which consumption has to be artificially stimulated in order to keep production going is a society founded on trash and waste, and such a society is a house built upon sand." -- Dorothy L. Sayers
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Postby klio » Fri May 18, 2007 5:01 pm

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Postby femto » Sun May 20, 2007 12:17 pm

It's all about the "comps". When appraising properties only the sale price of comps is considered, not seller concessions. For developers looking to move multiple properties they have a lot to gain by propping up the price of the early sales through a variety of schemes such as free upgrades, kickbacks (aka "down payment assistance"), and something I stumbled across recently, secret discounts (I blogged about it a few weeks ago ). In the simplest example, If they lower the price on house 1 by $5K the appraised value of house 2 will go down by $5K, and the cost to the seller across both houses is $10K. If they instead give $5K worth of non-price consideration (e.g. free TV, better kitchen appliances, etc.) the price of house 2 stays the same, and the cost to the seller is only $5K.
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Postby Lionel » Sun May 20, 2007 1:28 pm

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closing costs?

Postby B » Sun May 20, 2007 2:48 pm

So does the common practice of hiding closing costs in the final sales price get rolled into the statistics for "ever increasing" prices that are reported? I would assume they are factored out somehow, otherwise the stat would be total BS.

It's a violation of law to inflate the price for other purposes, but something tells me there is a lot of gray area here. I think builders can get away with quite a bit, including rebates, "landscaping", appliances and furnishings, etc. I am not sure if used-house sellers can legally do the same things (though I would be willing to bet that there is a lot of stuff going on that is technically fraud.

Any stories from the trenches? And what % of house sales these days are arranged with the seller "covering" closing costs (and thereby pumping up the sales price data artificially)?
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