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leaveseattle
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 Join the Tea Party
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| Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:39 pm |
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rose-colored-coolaid
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Re: Join the Tea Party Am I the only one who thinks this doesn't make any sense? Sure, everyone would love a dream world where the government exercises no taxes, but the roads and schools are somehow maintained and your calls to 911 are answered.
But, come on; a tea party! At the very least, these guys could come up with a historically accurate metaphor for their outrage. You all voted for a new government (well, everything but 2/3rds of the senators) four months ago. If there are so many people who are angry with the status quo, why did they vote for status quo candidates?
The site claims a silent majority are fed up. So, why didn't those people vote for Ron Paul? And why didn't they all vote libertarian for house and senate seats?
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| Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:56 pm |
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leaveseattle
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Re: Join the Tea Party I would use the term "symbolism"
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rose-colored-coolaid
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Re: Join the Tea Party leaveseattle wrote: I would use the term "symbolism" I wouldn't. If it's symbolic, then it's symbolic of a punch of angry people who don't know their history. We all voted for these people. We aren't being taxed without representation. How about a meaningful approach; start a website where a new spending charter is described in detail. Then, orchestrate rallies across the nation in support of this resolution, with the expressed goal of turning your resolution into a constitutional amendment. That would be both symbolic (it's hard to pass amendments, so it probably would not actually become law) and meaningful. If the resolution were well worded, it might even be the kind of event I would attend. Even if it didn't pass, you know legislators would pay attention if their ability to spend were on the line. The problem is, real work like that takes thoughtful consideration to a very hard problem. A Tea Party? That just takes being angry.
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SeattleMoose
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Re: Join the Tea Party Geez RCC.....stop being such a sheep and grow some horns!!! Were you against the WTC protests too? Trying to work "within the system" does not work when the system reaches a certain tipping point of inbreeding and corruption. We are at that point and have been for some time. BTW....the govt/banksters just gave America the finger ( http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090326/ap_on_go_co/bailout_bonuses) as the "90% tax on the bonuses" was killed in the Senate and Obama (the puppet) said "let's not demonize investors". So now it looks like the AIG scumbags will quietly keep their bonuses. Evidently, the banksters/govt puppets wanted to let the furor die down and then quietly put the whole thing to bed. After all, it sets a bad precedent if "some" scumbag parasites have to give up the lifesytles to which they have wormed themselves into....regardless of the ethics and the lack of accountability. Heavens!!! I mean who knows how many other scumbag parasites "would be next?". Tea party!!! Symbolic...perhaps...but a start Count me in!!!
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rose-colored-coolaid
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Re: Join the Tea Party SeattleMoose wrote: Geez RCC.....stop being such a sheep and grow some horns!!! So, I'm a sheep because I don't want to join your little tantrum? WaaaWaaa, we're really angry, and we demand you mean old politicians start doing your jobs. No, we're not angry like during the TARP thing, or the AIG bonus thing, we're way more angry now and pweeze listen to us!!!! If not joining a mob in a pointless exercise in historically bankrupt "symbolism" makes me a sheep to you, so be it. Have fun shouting and holding up signs. I'm sure that's going to change the way Washington works.
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Lake Hills Renter
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Re: Join the Tea Party So you're a sheep if you don't join the crowd? 
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| Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:33 pm |
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rose-colored-coolaid
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Re: Join the Tea Party Lake Hills Renter wrote: So you're a sheep if you don't join the crowd? It's kind of a sheepled if you do, sheepled if you don't world these days. I guess...
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FreedomLover
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Re: Join the Tea Party rose-colored-coolaid wrote: leaveseattle wrote: I would use the term "symbolism" I wouldn't. If it's symbolic, then it's symbolic of a punch of angry people who don't know their history. We all voted for these people. We aren't being taxed without representation. How about a meaningful approach; start a website where a new spending charter is described in detail. Then, orchestrate rallies across the nation in support of this resolution, with the expressed goal of turning your resolution into a constitutional amendment. That would be both symbolic (it's hard to pass amendments, so it probably would not actually become law) and meaningful. If the resolution were well worded, it might even be the kind of event I would attend. Even if it didn't pass, you know legislators would pay attention if their ability to spend were on the line. The problem is, real work like that takes thoughtful consideration to a very hard problem. A Tea Party? That just takes being angry. The people attending these "tea parties" are doing it to make themselves feel better. They think the leftists who do demonstrations are in on something grand and want to join the party. There is no THERE there.
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FreedomLover
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Re: Join the Tea Party rose-colored-coolaid wrote: SeattleMoose wrote: Geez RCC.....stop being such a sheep and grow some horns!!! So, I'm a sheep because I don't want to join your little tantrum? WaaaWaaa, we're really angry, and we demand you mean old politicians start doing your jobs. No, we're not angry like during the TARP thing, or the AIG bonus thing, we're way more angry now and pweeze listen to us!!!! If not joining a mob in a pointless exercise in historically bankrupt "symbolism" makes me a sheep to you, so be it. Have fun shouting and holding up signs. I'm sure that's going to change the way Washington works. Besides, what's the point in joining a peaceful mob anyways? Historically the point of being in a mob was to engage in wanton violence and destruction...
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| Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:36 pm |
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The Tim
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Re: Join the Tea Party Wow. This MSNBC bit has to be the most unprofessional piece of so-called journalism I've ever seen on a major television news program: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-OWDjOQfIDavid Schuster wrote: It's going to be teabagging day for the right wing, and they are going nuts for it. Thousands of them whipped out the festivities early this past weekend, and while the parties are officially toothless, the teabaggers are full-throated about their goals: they want to give President Obama strong tongue-lashing, and lick government spending. I'm sure that would be hilarious to me if I were in eighth grade. As far as the actual tea parties go, I thought this write-up was pretty good: Tea Party Report: Washington, You're On Notice
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leaveseattle
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Re: Join the Tea Party Tim,
That was a great write up.
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Lake Hills Renter
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Re: Join the Tea Party I stayed away from the tea party idea because of the partisan crap (well, and then the flu). I'm glad the write-up's author didn't have any political mudslinging at his rally (and I'm no sure I believe him), but everything else I saw/read showed it had mostly been commandeered by Republicans and the right wing as an anti-Obama rally. No thanks. That kind of thing is the problem, not the solution.
Don't get me wrong, I'm neither left wing nor Democrat (nor right wing nor Republican) -- I despise partisan politics in all its flavors. But I find the hypocrisy of rallies against deficits and spending NOW, after silence for eight years of massive government deficits by the previous administration, very suspicious. Sure, I would imagine there's a lot of bailout backlash involved, which is why I was interested at first, but if it truly is about getting our financial system healthy again, then the partisans need to be kept out of it IMO. And from what I saw, they were pretty much running the show, despite the testimonials otherwise. They may have started non-partisan, but it sure didn't end up that way, at least to the neutral onlooker.
And that news report is pathetic.
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WestSideBilly
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The Tim
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Re: Join the Tea Party Lake Hills Renter wrote: But I find the hypocrisy of rallies against deficits and spending NOW, after silence for eight years of massive government deficits by the previous administration, very suspicious. My guess is that as long as times were good, the majority of the people were willfully blind to the dangerous excesses that were common across the board in the government, the private sector, and personal household budgets. And let's face it, times have been good for about 20 years now, with only minor slowdowns along the way. Now that the debt-fueled gravy train has finally been derailed, some people are beginning to wake up. The fact that Obama is the current president is largely coincidental. He obviously didn't have anything to do with getting us into this mess, but he's also taking all the wrong approaches for getting us out. IMO, McCain would have likely been doing many of the exact same things, and I personally would have been just as upset. That's why I didn't vote for either of them.
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