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Alert - King County Taxpayers

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Alert - King County Taxpayers

Postby TJ_98370 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:44 pm

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I am truly amazed at the ever increasing effects of the mortgage default debacle. This might be something interesting to investigate further as it relates to King County (see below). Rest assured that King County officials are monitoring the situation closely :? ......



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Florida local governments and school districts pulled $8 billion out of a state-run investment pool, or 30 percent of its assets, after learning that the money-market fund contained more than $700 million of defaulted debt.....

......Thousands of school, fire, water and other local districts across the U.S. keep their cash in state- and county-run pools. These public accounts, modeled after private money market funds, are supposed to invest in safe, liquid, short-term debt such as U.S. Treasuries and certificates of deposit from highly rated banks.

The Florida pool, which was the largest of its kind in the U.S. at $27 billion before the recent spate of withdrawals, has invested $2 billion in SIVs and other subprime-tainted debt, state records show. Connecticut, Maine, Montana and King County, Washington, are among other governments holding similar investments, in smaller quantities......

....When local governments withdraw funds from the pool, the state must sell off holdings to raise the cash. Because Florida's pool has been forced to quickly raise billions of dollars to meet withdrawal demands, it won't get top dollar for its asset sales, says Joseph Mason, professor of finance at Drexel University.

"When funds like this are liquidated, the Street will take advantage of their desperation. They don't care if you're a hedge fund or a school district,'' said Mason, who completed an 18-month appointment as a scholar in residence at the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in January.

Mason, who has studied the history of bank failures, understands the rush by Florida municipalities to pull their money from the pool.

"The first people in the withdrawal line get 100 percent of their money,'' he said. "The loss is suffered by the people behind them in line. Since nobody wants to be at the end, you get a run on the pool.''.....
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Postby explorer » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:26 pm

That is why I did not understand this last vote in WA to allow further investment by the state from surplus funds to a crap shoot...
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Postby TJ_98370 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:12 am

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I can't find the referenced Seattle Times article, but I found this (From Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis)



.....The Seattle-based King County Investment Pool fund, which manages cash for about 100 agencies in the county, invested $153.5 million in commercial paper issued by three SIVs, each of which enjoyed the top grades from S&P and Moody's until weeks before they defaulted.

King County finance director Ken Guy says he thought the fund was making a safe investment when it bought $53.5 million in commercial paper of an SIV-lite called Mainsail II in July. Mainsail failed to make payments to investors, including King County, on Oct. 4......

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Postby TJ_98370 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:28 am

An October Reuters article about the King County Investment Pool Fund. I don't know if info is still accurate.



MIAMI, Oct 23 (Reuters) - Standard & Poor's Inc on Tuesday said the $4.08 billion investment pool of King County, Washington, appears to be the only one among those rated by the agency with worrisome exposure to structured investment vehicles, or SIVs.

The ratings group on Monday placed the King County pool, which it rates as "AAAf", on watch for a possible ratings downgrade while its analysts review distressed asset-backed commercial paper held in the pool's portfolio.....
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Postby TJ_98370 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:47 pm

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King County Investment Pool fund invested $53.5 million into an SIV called Mainsail II (see "SIV Debts a Disaster for Public School Funds" post above)



Solent Capital Partners, the London-based hedge fund manager, said Monday that it might be forced to sell assets in a mortgage-backed securities unit after the rout in credit markets hampered its ability to repay debt.

Solent's Mainsail II unit is drawing on its emergency financing after failing to raise short-term debt in the commercial paper market, the company said. Mainsail holds part of $6.7 billion in collateralized debt obligations managed by Solent, according to Fitch Ratings....

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