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Tuesday Prognosis: not good

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Tuesday Prognosis: not good

Postby deejayoh » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:16 am

If you haven't taken a gander at what is happening in Asia, Europe, and the futures markets - you might want to have a look see.

Tomorrow's market activity is shaping up to be dismal

Futures
INDEX VALUE CHANGE OPEN HIGH LOW TIME
DJIA INDEX 11,592.00 -514.00 12,130.00 12,140.00 11,569.00 11:29
S&P 500 1,265.10 -60.20 1,327.50 1,331.60 1,256.00 11:29
NASDAQ 100 1,773.50 -76.00 1,850.75 1,857.75 1,755.25 11:29

Europe
INDEX VALUE CHANGE %CHANGE TIME
DJ EURO STOXX 50 € Pr 3,703.05 -292.12 -7.31% 13:00
FTSE 100 INDEX 5,578.20 -323.50 -5.48% 11:35
CAC 40 INDEX 4,744.45 -347.95 -6.83% 12:10
DAX INDEX 6,790.19 -523.98 -7.16% 13:51

Asia
INDEX VALUE CHANGE %CHANGE TIME
NIKKEI 225 13,325.94 -535.35 -3.86% 02:00
HANG SENG INDEX 23,818.86 -1,383.01 -5.49% 03:01
S&P/ASX 200 INDEX 5,580.40 -166.90 -2.90% 01/21
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Postby Pndscm » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:32 am

As someone around here once said: "beat the rush, panic now!"
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Postby SunTzu » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:34 am

Guess that downgrade of mbac finally got those foreign buyers of toxic waste to realize that they are holding crap. The markets in general will enter a self-reinforcing downward spiral where today's sell-off will create a US sell-off tomorrow and a US sell-off tomorrow will creat another wave of sell-offs the next day......

The leadership and trustworthiness of US financial institutions will face serious crisis of confidence from all foreigners, this could be a problem down the road for our sources of deficit funding......
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Postby perfectfire » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:19 pm

I'm almost feeling sick about this. I cashed out of all of my options on Friday in anticipation of a rate cut bounce this week, but now it looks like I may have missed out on the big crash event that we've all been expecting for the last several months. ARGGGHHHH :x

So now I'm hoping somebody will start a suprise rate cut rumor, or a Warren Buffet buying the entire U.S. rumor or something to prop the market up until I can get back in.
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Postby deejayoh » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:33 pm

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Postby david_mcmanus » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:56 pm

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Postby Lake Hills Renter » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:53 pm

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Postby AwaySooner » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:35 pm

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Indian market

Postby sid » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:00 pm

WOW... it was 21K last week
Trading halted......



China also hurting
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Postby AwaySooner » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:34 pm

Gotto tell you guys, doesn't look good.
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Postby downpayment » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:51 pm

I think DOW will definitely break 12,000 tomorrow - remember it never really did test that level after crossing it in 2006.

Question is, how low will it go, 11,000? I'm looking at buying, but can't quite tell where bottom will be. I personally think markets are getting somewhat oversold.
"People get weak in the knees and say, 'Oh, I can do this. I love this'"
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Postby geon » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:38 am

I'm also in the " feeling sick" pack. Held QIDs most of last year waiting for an event like this, but sold out at the end of November, looking to get back in big again on a rally.

Took a one week profit on a smaller lot the first week of the year, but it will pale compared to what I could have been making. Hope BB creates a bounce. Sold half of retirement fund March of last year--was going to do more but didn't want to scare wife. :o

Well, at least I've got cash sitting on the sidelines.
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Postby carlislematthew » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:59 am

"I personally think markets are getting somewhat oversold."

I agree, although they'll likely get as oversold on the way down as they got overbought on the way up! Irrational fears can work on both sides.

When I turn on CNBC and see that neo-con idiot Kudlow telling me to "absolutely stay out of the market - it's rotten", that is the moment when I will fully go back in to stocks (balanced portfolio, blah blah blah).
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Postby carlislematthew » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:01 am

"My 401k is in MM and that still worries me, but not much choice there and I don't want to quit my job."

Are there no stable income funds (treasuries, etc) in your 401K? Those should be relatively fine even in times such as these. Unless you're the kind of person that wants to hoard gold in a safe (along with your guns and ammo). :)
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Postby TJ_98370 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:28 am

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