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Who does this anymore?

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Postby Markor » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:47 am

What's ridiculous is people lauding the "Great" Generation for paying off their houses fast, when they nuked civilians, had 4+ kids, raped & poisoned the environment, put future generations deep in debt etc., all just happening to have the effect of boosting their standard of living. Then saying that it's all okay because there's no absolute right or wrong, which, tellingly, people think only when the damage is done by a large segment of society, and not by, say, a pedophile. We could pay off a house in 4 years too if we did enough damage to others & future generations, and if we weren't cleaning up the messes of past generations. (Not that more damage isn't being done now; the spoils are kept by the wealthy.)

Yes past generations did some wonderful things too. But IMO (opinions are okay here, even if y'all disagree, right?) the first truly Great Generation will be the one that achieves sustainability; i.e. where subsequent generations have the same or better standard of living. If they do it right, a house might still be paid off in short order.
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Postby The Tim » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:21 pm

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Re: Who does this anymore?

Postby ira s » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:35 pm

It wasn't a whole generation of people who nuked civilians in WWII, it was the political and military leadership. Should your generation be blamed for all of George Bush's, or Bill Clinton's doings? Sure , it's this latest generations fault for Monica Lewinsky and the invasion of Iraq.
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Re: Who does this anymore?

Postby Markor » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:01 am

Kudos to The Tim for being open-minded.

I think the people are responsible for the political and military leadership and all their doings, esp. in a democracy. They are responsible through action or inaction. In a true democracy there's really no excuse, for a person need only make up their mind about the important subjects and vote occassionally. For example, if the vast majority of eligible voters were adamant that there be no aggressive (imperialist) war, and each eligible voter voted in every third election, aggressive war would be no more, or else the politicians would be recalled/impeached/imprisoned. The politicians would fear that, and they'd know about the belief beforehand (opinion polls would ferret it out), so they'd likely not go in that direction to begin with. The reason imperialism is on the rise in the US now is because the people (the generations of voters) are not dead set against it. Very unlikely you'll see Germany invade another country in your lifetime, because anti-war sentiment is intense there, even 60+ years after WWII.

If a generation doesn't want the prez to commit adultery, they can pick better to begin with or recall/impeach/imprison after the fact. Otherwise they (the generation as a whole) take the rap. Same with nuking civilians. Any individual can remind that they voted against it, or didn't have 4+ kids, or whatever.
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