About The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market. Tim also hosts the weekly improv comedy sci-fi podcast Dispatches from the Multiverse.

3,031 comments:

  1. 1501

    I Filled My 2nd Mug of MJB, Fill Your’s Too and read the brief Brief:

    “… More than 100 Washington state parks’ gates swing open tomorrow. Here’s the list and a look at when other parts of Washington might reopen. The park access creates chances to heal your spirit through hiking; just know how to do it safely.
    Many Seattleites plan to continue social distancing long after the stay-home order is lifted, FYI Guy writes. In Texas, though, they’re already going back to movie theaters.
    Washington hospitals are facing a new crisis: They’re bleeding red ink as patients stay home in the wake of canceled appointments and surgeries. Community health centers are particularly at risk.
    If you get infected at work, is your company liable? Congress is revving up for a fight with huge implications for how millions of Americans will re-enter workplaces. Masked senators open a new session today, but the House is staying home.
    When will casinos reopen? That’s up to tribes, major employers whose economic pain stretches beyond reservation borders. The first reopening is planned for next week…”

    SWE’s take: Inslee extended the “stay at home” law through May 31. Without Inslee on board, opening businesses ain’t gonna happen anyway? Gas is cheap, go for a drive in the mountains, pack food and keep away from people…..park parking isn’t an issue in the mountains. I got my State Park pass in my glove compartment…go where the crowds aren’t going to park.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-01/ground-zero-of-u-s-outbreak-to-extend-stay-home-order-to-may-31

    “…The coronavirus is worsening the racial wealth gap. Columnist Naomi Ishisaka looks at how federal loans are discriminating against some small businesses owned by people of color and women…”

    SWE’s Take: It takes a real SSN filing a real 1040 with IRS to get a stimulus loan….legal American tax paying citizens only?

    “…Can’t make your car payment? Take proactive steps to keep from ruining your credit.

    Using all your credit cards now will protect your finances. Wait, what?! Strange times call for strange measures, and here’s the reasoning from columnist Chuck Jaffe, who is not advising you to spend more….”

    SWE’s Take: You follow this advice and you’re on a road to doom…LOL

    Good News: Saving money now will protect your family’s finances in the future.

  2. 1502

    Its Safe to Fly Again This Summer?

    https://apnews.com/79fc0681137e9e810801e5349c48e9c4

    “…Billionaire Warren Buffett said over the weekend that he had unloaded his company’s entire stake in major U.S. airlines, believing he was mistaken in his valuation of the industry. Shares of American, Delta and United plunged between 13% and 14% Monday. Southwest slid 9%….”

    The Uber Rich don’t think so. Buffet sold all his airline stock yesterday. Boeing shudders again…

    SWE’s Take: Drive your car with windows closed and packed food this Summer. Motel is back home. Sell your time shares requiring air flight. See Disneyland in a couple years maybe? Staycations folks…whatever ya do, don’t board a Killer Flu contaminated cruise ship…LOL . Hey Dave, good decision to sell the Boeing stock. Even my daughter begged me to fly the plane to Kansas, instead of her coming to Seattle….LOL…that’s on hold until next year BTW.

  3. 1503
    N says:

    @Brianna 1437 – I am also a buyer but thinking of jumping in. Hasn’t inventory been low for a long time (with it being a little higher in 2018-2019).

    The question becomes layoffs and will it affect the high paying corporate jobs. I think the region can handle 10k Boeing layoffs as they also had 6k layoffs just a couple years ago. I do wonder if Microsoft has some hiring freezes, in my field all of a sudden they have no job openings. But perhaps the key is the Amazon effect – how many job openings do they have. Again I see dozens just in my field right now and a quick search shows 10k job openings in just Seattle and Bellevue right now. That is just crazy.

  4. 1504
    Blurtman says:

    It was quite remarkable watching the 72 year old Chris Wallace interview the 64 year old Deborah Birx about the 79 year old Anthony Fauci’s policies.

    BIRX: It’s devastatingly worrisome to me personally because if they go home and infect their grandmother or their grandfather who has a comorbid condition and they have a serious or a very — or an unfortunate outcome, they will feel guilty for the rest of our lives.

    Finally we are slowly starting to hear about the age demographics of COVID-19 fatalities, although not in a direct way. But as only 6% of US born elderly and 25% of foreign born elderly live with family members, it is a bit strange that Fauci and Birx are not more forthcoming about risk and age and comorbidities.

    It would not be unexpected that the virus would be more fatal in the elderly population with comorbodities. A wiser policy would be to protect these folks. So why shut down the entire economy? Could it be the result of an age bias on the in denial policy makers?

  5. 1505
    Voight-kampff says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1468
    You keep asking why we don’t just protect the vulnerable? It’s a good question, but that’s exactly what we are trying to do. Even vaccines aren’t designed to specifically protect those who get them, but rather to protect or build a barrier around those are vulnerable or those who cannot be vaccinated. You simply can’t just protect with vulnerable without everyone contributing. That is the nature of a virus. That being said, this total lockdown only works insofar as it lowers R value and allows everyone to prepare, ie, acquiring more PPE, ventilators, masks etc. It is not a solution unless it is done briefly to acquire supplies and blunt hot spots, otherwise the potential economic destruction outweighs the potential virus destruction. I stated in early February that we are only left with multiple bad choices, just as true today.

  6. 1506
    Brianna says:

    RE: N @ 1467

    N – we entered 2020 with extremely low supply, as the buyer demand bought up much of what was left on the market from winter 2019. The shutdown has cooled things a bit- by taking some of the buyers out of the buying pool. Some sellers are holding off and waiting a few months for all this to calm down. So, supply is low, but I think a bit higher than it would have been without the shutdown. It’s really hard to know what is going on in the market right now – too many wild cards at play.

    My biggest problem as a buyer has been supply. There hasn’t been much to choose from (in my search parameters) and I haven’t seen anything I’ve liked enough to buy. But, when I do, I’ll snatch it up.

  7. 1507
    Beano says:

    By David @ 1434:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1433
    RE: softwarengineer @ 1432

    I was at the beach yesterday with scads of others. Restaurants are open Monday along with all state parks in Florida (except maybe Miami area). I went out and shopped around all sorts of people today at a local nursery for an Alocasia Macrorrhiza. Then I went to a paintball shop/field which was covered up with kids shooting each other.

    Suck yourself Inslee you big p#$$y.

    Moving to Seattle area 2 years ago – I noted how docile the locals were. Now seeing up close how accepting and oblivious they are to having their human rights taken away, no other part of America can match this level of detachment.

    Truly shocking.

  8. 1508
    Beano says:

    By Voight-kampff @ 1469:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1468
    You keep asking why we don’t just protect the vulnerable? It’s a good question, but that’s exactly what we are trying to do. Even vaccines aren’t designed to specifically protect those who get them, but rather to protect or build a barrier around those are vulnerable or those who cannot be vaccinated. You simply can’t just protect with vulnerable without everyone contributing. That is the nature of a virus. That being said, this total lockdown only works insofar as it lowers R value and allows everyone to prepare, ie, acquiring more PPE, ventilators, masks etc. It is not a solution unless it is done briefly to acquire supplies and blunt hot spots, otherwise the potential economic destruction outweighs the potential virus destruction. I stated in early February that we are only left with multiple bad choices, just as true today.

    BS – we can protect the vulnerable and allow everyone else to resume life. We aren’t going to destroy ourselves for the extra 5% of “protection” that’s insane and displays a total inability to do basic calculus.

  9. 1509
    Mackenzie says:

    By Beano @ 1472:

    BS – we can protect the vulnerable and allow everyone else to resume life. We aren’t going to destroy ourselves for the extra 5% of “protection” that’s insane and displays a total inability to do basic calculus.

    I am going to have to disagree. Not one country has been able to isolate the vulnerable. Every country has seen mass deaths in their nursing homes, even the much vaunted Sweden. The reality is that the vulnerable need to be cared for by the not so vulnerable, and these not so vulnerable carers wind up being transmission vehicles. It’s just not feasible to hermetically seal the vulnerable populations away from the young and hale.

    It’s a legitimate choice to say that saving the vulnerable populations is too high a cost for wrecking the economy, but let’s not kid ourselves about being able to somehow seal off the vulnerable from the disease as it runs rampant everywhere else. No state or country has achieved such a targeted isolation policy and it’s hard to believe that some brilliant new isolation strategy can be devised to help.

  10. 1510
    Voight-kampff says:

    RE: Beano @ 1472RE: Beano @ 1472
    I agree and clearly stated that the economic cost is part of the calculation.
    Please propose exactly how you would protect the vulnerable? You may also propose any calculus problem you need solved.

  11. 1511
  12. 1512
    Al says:

    I hear CHASE requires a 20% down payment and at least 700 FICO now. Brutal! 80% of America lives pay check to pay check and doesn’t have any money, I wonder who are the buyers with 20% down on a million dollar house in Seattle or East side.
    Is it true that some banks have stopped offering jumbo loans?

  13. 1513
    DavidE says:

    Renters will have 12 months to repay unpaid rent under new city of Santa Monica order

    https://www.smdp.com/renters-will-have-12-months-to-repay-unpaid-rent-under-new-city-of-santa-monica-order/190304

  14. 1514

    RE: Voight-kampff @ 1469

    Seems to me they did a bait and switch by convincing everyone to stay home so we could let the hospitals get more ready…then they started talking about Fall. Though I do agree that bringing back huge crowds and sports events and concerts is just not in the cards for awhile and not even by Fall.

    On the bright side…looks like I’m not gonna get it. :) https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/03/covid-19-fact-check-caution-urged-study-virus-smoking/3055378001/

    I was wondering why there weren’t stories about smokers being the most likely to die from it. Turns out the nicotine acts as a coronavirus blocker. They are giving people nicotine patches in France.

  15. 1515

    RE: N @ 1467

    The last time Microsoft had layoffs many local companies were ready to and happy to catch them up same day. That’s why there was no fallout. I remember the Welcome Mat being out. Not for everyone, but for anyone who was talented.

  16. 1516
    Eastsider says:

    By DavidE @ 1477:

    Renters will have 12 months to repay unpaid rent under new city of Santa Monica order

    Who will pay these bills during the year?

    – property taxes
    – utilities
    – insurance
    – mortgage
    – maintenance (e.g. landscape) and repairs (e.g. water tank replacement)

    It will decimate rental market completely.

  17. 1517
    kenmorem says:

    paging erik. paging erik.
    for sale is a rented, queen anne condo. will sell for the right price.
    fairmarketrental at gmail.com
    come get it

  18. 1518
    sfrz says:

    Turnkey ready for that next Airbnb tourist that won’t show up. Please please make the pain end! I have 5 more in the same building. Help me! Only 2,796 to go! Knockin’ em down.
    This is the building that the Cali boy came in and swooped 6 of these gems up for his mini empire.

    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/2132-5th-Ave-98121/unit-309/home/12091601

  19. 1519
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1475

    Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with Millions of U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research
    https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

    CoVid was a Fauci bioweapons project gone wrong
    –Newsweek breaks the CoVid scam – finally
    https://www.brasscheck.com/video/covid-was-a-fauci-bioweapons-project-gone-wrong/
    ===/
    Tony Fauci is a serial liar and according
    to a recent Newsweek article it appears
    he’s an un-indicted criminal too.

    Finally someone is shining light on the core problem.
    https://youtu.be/UI7oIb99C4g

  20. 1520
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1475

    Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with Millions of U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research
    https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

    CoVid was a Fauci bioweapons project gone wrong
    –Newsweek breaks the CoVid scam – finally
    https://www.brasscheck.com/video/covid-was-a-fauci-bioweapons-project-gone-wrong/

  21. 1521
    wreckingbull says:

    By Voight-kampff @ 1474:

    RE: Beano @ 1472RE: Beano @ 1472
    I agree and clearly stated that the economic cost is part of the calculation.
    Please propose exactly how you would protect the vulnerable? You may also propose any calculus problem you need solved.

    I doubt you will get a good answer from Beano. That said, there are three attainable things that need to occur in order to protect the vulnerable (who are not just the old – this includes medical workers).

    1. Adequate PPE for all medical and long-term care personnel.
    2. Fast and accurate antibody and PCR testing
    3. Graph-based contact tracing

    These are all reasonable things to require, in fact many other countries have already achieved this. Our leadership, of course, has no idea how to get this done. We will likely get the worst of both worlds – economic disaster and life-destroying flare-ups.

  22. 1522

    The CDC Killer Flu Reports Remind Me of the “Early 2000s” CDC Life Expectancy Predictions During the Bush Term to Butcher Ax Social Security

    The Census Bureau simultaneously reported that life expectancy in the early 2000s went down to 1960s levels…like men dying at mid 60s average….W.H.O. do you believe? One report is the Tooth Fairy.

    Now the CDC Clowns are predicting 3000 Killer Flu Deaths/Day continuing “spiked” to 3000/day through June [the actuals show deaths/day declining the last five days]. The CDC is run by seers and fortune tellers?

    Time to stir Your Fortune Telling Tea Leaves in Your MJB Mugs and Predict RE Prices in Seattle, read the brief Brief:

    “… Are you wearing that face mask properly?
    The CDC recommends wearing masks in public places where social distancing is difficult. But many people aren’t doing it correctly. Here’s a visual guide to protecting yourself and others, from putting the mask on to taking it off. Speaking of masks, they’re quickly becoming a flash point in the growing virus culture war. (Illustration: Jennifer Luxton / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s Take: The Clowns at the CDC now recommend wearing flu masks, so all I see is like home made handkerchiefs and scarves out there in public….very few medical N19 type masks that actually work. The CDC seers never told us to wear one that works or its a waste of time.

    https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1224433/cloth-masks-ineffective-vs-2019-ncov-ard-health-expert

    “…The daily coronavirus death toll will nearly double by June, the White House privately predicted as President Donald Trump presses for states to reopen. A closely watched UW institute also sharply increased its projections, reflecting “premature relaxation of restrictions.” (We’ve written about why mathematical models differ so much, and whether they can be believed.) Track the spread of the virus in Washington state and around the world….”

    SWE’s Take: It was a discredited/leaked CDC/W.H.O. Clown report folks….Fake News IOWs. Death rates per day “actually” down the last five days. Sounds like we’re past the Killer Flu Apex IMO.

    “… Seattle will protect residential tenants from eviction for six months after the current moratorium expires, under a plan unanimously approved by the City Council. Here’s how it will work…”

    SWE’s take: Never let local government determine whether or not rent is due in lieu of the RE contract. Landlords go bankrupt too.

    “…An Issaquah couple is living a nightmare, held in China for years, away from their teenage daughter. Jodie Chen recently returned home, but Daniel Hsu cannot. Their story is a rare account of life inside China’s opaque system of exit bans and secretive detention centers. ..”

    SWE’s Take: China is such a safe nation to visit, much better than North Korea…LOL\

    Good News: If ya ignore the CDC/WHO cooked books on Fake News “enlarged American ” Killer Flu Daily Deaths and just look at actuals decreasing last week you’ll stop swigging WINCO vodka so much…LOL

  23. 1523
  24. 1524
    Erik says:

    RE: kenmorem @ 1481
    Will buy for the right deal. I’ll email you.

  25. 1525
    Eastsider says:

    Replace MN with WA…

    Poof! Minnesota’s $1.5 billion budget surplus is now a $2.4 billion deficit as tax revenues collapse.
    https://www.twincities.com/2020/05/05/coronavirus-poof-minnesotas-1-5-billion-budget-surplus-is-now-a-deficit/

  26. 1526
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1483

    Brasscheck:
    “The Coronavirus scam solution
    Collective memory – restored”
    – Fauci’s Swine Flu Scam – 2009 Brass
    https://youtu.be/HXpVP1Zg02k


    How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Health
    https://www.corbettreport.com/gateshealth/

  27. 1527
    sfrz says:

    This one is going to be a doozy. 2008-9 was just a warm up.

    There’s been no spike in personal and business bankruptcies, but surge is expected this fall

    “So businesses are also going through the great deferral.”

    For example, if a bank holds a loan on equipment in a restaurant, it would be difficult for the institution to sell and liquidate that equipment.

    “There’s no going-out-of-business sales in retail where people can come in…. You can’t even get into a mall, let alone buy that product at the stores. So the banks are holding back on retail business as well.

    “So we’re going through this sort of fantasy calm before the storm.”

    But that storm, when it hits, could be “very bad,” Brzezinski said.

    “How many small retail stores, how many restaurants, how much of the hospitality industry has been struck down for good that we will never see again? I’d say it’s just short of catastrophic.

    “We’re going to see businesses that will not survive. Many, many businesses that will not survive.”
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bankruptcies-coronavirus-personal-corporate-deferral-1.5551722

  28. 1528
    David says:

    Government treats Wuhan Virus as a JOKE & unserious. You WILL NOT be getting any real help from Government to fix medical problems.

    Did you EVER receive free lunch at school? You’re a candidate for government medical hiring! They hire people based on social identity, to wit:

    C. Individuals from disadvantaged backgrounds, defined as those who meet two or more of the following criteria:

    1. Were or currently are homeless, as defined by the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (Definition: https://nche.ed.gov/mckinney-vento/);

    2. Were or currently are in the foster care system, as defined by the Administration for Children and Families (Definition: https://www.acf.hhs.gov/cb/focus-areas/foster-care);

    3. Were eligible for the Federal Free and Reduced Lunch Program for two or more years (Definition: https://www.fns.usda.gov/school-meals/income-eligibility-guidelines);

    4. Have/had no parents or legal guardians who completed a bachelor’s degree (see https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2018/2018009.pdf);

    5. Were or currently are eligible for Federal Pell grants (Definition: https://www2.ed.gov/programs/fpg/eligibility.html);

    6. Received support from the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC) as a parent or child (Definition: https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/wic-eligibility-requirements).

    https://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/pa-files/PA-20-166.html

  29. 1529
    Blurtman says:

    RE: wreckingbull @ 1484 – I appreciate your thoughtful comments. Just FYI, I am not an anti-vaxxer, and thanks for the reminder that vaccines are not merely to protect the vaccinated.

    COVID-19 fatalities are primarily in the aged population with chronic health problems. But even in the very old population, those without comorbidities have a lower fatality rate than the average flu fatality rate. And this is an average, to b sure; likely higher in the aged population with chronic health problems, but lower in the younger population.

    Counterpoint: The current lockdown policy is a heavy-handed shotgun approach that penalizes and harms the productive and reproductive members of our society. As we know who is at risk of dying from COVID-19, society must take steps to protect these vulnerable people. Politicians like NJ’s governor Murphy cannot grandstand about outrage over nursing home deaths when he had sufficient warning from the unfortunate Kirkland fatalities.

    Don’t be alarmed about the rising case rate, a function of the availability of testing. We want healthy people to become exposed and naturally vaccinated, not the opposite.

    Take this opportunity to discuss with the American public the evident risks of unhealthy lifestyle choices – obesity, smoking, poor diet, including too much carb and high salt content food consumption – and especially help educate the African American population. The obesity rate of black women in particular is extraordinary.

    Folks whose unlucky genes, through no fault of their own, make them vulnerable to the virus, should be protected at all costs. It should not be news that obesity increases the morbidity and mortality of infectious disease. What responsibility should people face who continue to make unhealthy lifestyle choices ?

    Realize the ability of the internet, social media and the lame street media to sensationalize what, in past times, would not have resulted in the shut down of the American economy.

    Do not let physicians direct economic policy.

  30. 1530
    Eastsider says:

    Three weeks after easing lockdown, Austria infection rate has shrunk. They have similar population size and Covid-19 fatalities as WA state.

    Austria coronavirus under control despite lockdown easing
    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-austria-coronavirus-lockdown-easing.html

  31. 1531

    Great Cross Section on Today’s Views of Flu Safety Versus Opening Economy With Higher RE Prices Now

    So grab your MJB Mug and read the brief Brief:

    “… State parks seemed “busy … but not unmanageable” as they reopened yesterday, but the true test will come in the days ahead when temperatures flirt with 80 degrees. Here are some things to keep in mind if you’re heading out. Find today’s live news updates here.
    Washington state faces painful cuts to parks, schools, social-service programs and more as preliminary numbers show a possible $7 billion hit to revenue through 2023. A special legislative session is likely…”

    SWE’s take: Even before Killer Flu the last 5-10 years I’ve been driving like 10 miles to a State park with parking available versus city parks [like Lake meridian, across the street from me] where the Millennial and Gen-Zs jam the parking lots full all day. The State parks charge that $10 fee, that helps keep the parking lot from being full too….

    “… Health officials are increasingly warning of a second wave of infections and deaths around the globe. The question isn’t whether it will hit, they say: It’s when, and how badly…”

    SWE’s take: Are these health officials the CDC Clowns? They’re about as reliable as an exploding Japanese engineered air bag used for decades any way….

    “… Costco, Kroger stores and others are limiting meat purchases as shutdowns lead to shortages…”

    SWE’s Take: I see full meat counters everywhere….its toilet paper that’s sucked dry…

    “…Starbucks is reopening most of its coffee shops by the end of this week. Customers can expect changes, from ordering to paying and picking up drinks…”

    SWE’s Take: Getting your $5 cup of coffee is essential?

    “… People are holding coronavirus parties, thinking it’s better to get COVID-19 over with. Bad idea, Walla Walla County officials say….”

    SWE’s Take: Corona beer is considered “rot gut” beer in Mexico….so serve Corona beer and the coronavirus party…LOL

    “… The president has resumed travel, touring an Arizona mask factory yesterday. Nearly all workers there wore masks; the president and Honeywell executives did not….”

    SWE’s take: Safe Distancing alone is a very “low risk” of catching Killer Flu…mask or no mask…sneezing on your coat arm sleeves and rubbing it on everything is “moderate risk” IMO….sneeze into cupped hands then wash them.

    Good News: Erik’s still buying up condos…

  32. 1532
    QA Observer says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1489
    …aaaannnd how does this pertain to real estate?

  33. 1533
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1491

    What I have witnessed in real life is that many of the most vulnerable are also the ones not complying with and often not able to comply with any semblance of Stay Home protections.

    People with breathing issues who are often obese saying you wear a mask, I can’t, when in grocery stores. They say they have a hard enough time breathing which gets considerably worse if they try to wear a mask. Often these people are also obese and have trouble breathing while exerting themselves down the grocery aisle.

    People with co-morbidity are out and about in higher traffic volume places to get treatments for their other morbidity issues. Also many can’t drive to these treatments and appointments and so they are being transported by some type of publicly available transportation vs being self contained in their own car.

    Borderline dementia people, of all ages but mostly elderly, I see in stores who come in with gloves and a mask and then proceed to take off their glove to hand pick grapes from each and every bag of grapes, touching everyone’s grapes in the process. You can’t fix stupid.

    My Mom is not allowed to go to a store (she’ll be 90 in August) because my niece won’t let her back in the house if she leaves because she has a new baby and lost her 2nd child a little over a year ago to a birth defect that tortured their lives while he lived for almost a year. I don’t blame her for being protective and trust me, if you let my Mom in a store she is NOT going to follow any rules whatsoever. :) She’s going to go right over there and hug that mentally deficient cart gatherer that she’s known for years. And he will not contain himself either. I met him once on a visit. All he said to my sister was “Where’s Mom?” over and over again. LOL!

    The hard truth is the people you are trying to protect are putting themselves at risk more than you would if you were out and about. We don’t need more COVID tests. We need IQ tests. Every day you see something and shake your head because that person THINKS they are actually following the protocol as they remove their glove to touch things they shouldn’t be touching that other people will later be buying.

    We’re just kicking the can down the road and we were lured with the rationale that we needed to let the hospitals get themselves ready. Every time I hear “until Fall”, I hear “we need to let the economy crash as far down as possible before the Presidential Election”.

  34. 1534
    Mackenzie says:

    By Blurtman @ 1491:

    Folks whose unlucky genes, through no fault of their own, make them vulnerable to the virus, should be protected at all costs.

    I keep explaining that it’s not possible to isolate any particular vulnerable groups or populations, so let’s stop talking about that as an option. It’s a legitimate discussion to discuss whether the economic harm from lockdowns is justified to reduce the mortality rate of vulnerable populations but let’s not kid ourselves about somehow hermetically sealing off any vulnerable populations from the rest of society to protect them from infection.

    Vulnerable populations have to be cared for by the healthy less vulnerable populations which creates a transmission pathway that will inevitably lead to infection of the vulnerable. I heard of one case in France where the care givers at a nursing home locked themselves in with the residents for over 40 days, but even that lockin ran it’s course and the young care givers finally had gone to the limits of the isolation they were willing to tolerate.

    Ending lockdowns means that a far higher number vulnerable people are going to die. We can’t just pretend there is some magical solution to avoid this.

  35. 1535

    RE: Eastsider @ 1492RE: Eastsider @ 1492

    LOL Eastsider:

    I heard a meteor struck China in Oct 2019, 1000 miles from Wuhan distributing trillions of virus latent dust all over China….is that what the labs in Wuhan found in bats? Lord only knows…there’s so little we really know about viruses and most of its fake? Ancient Aliens theorized that ‘space origin” viruses live off their hosts [us] and can mutate benign too so as not to kill their host.

    https://christianflatearthministry.org/2020/03/21/is-inner-space-as-fake-as-outer-space/

    They already are saying the coronavirus is mutating now. What does it mean? Gloom or smiles, your choice….LOL…the science on the Killer Flu mutating virus is like reading Mad Magazine BTW, clear as mud….LOL…check it out yourself. Its Math 101 to the scientists too…LOL…its before we knew what we were doing.

  36. 1536

    Hey Dave, the “Actual” Grim Reaper is Visiting your Open Florida Beaches Now

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/florida-attorney-explains-touring-beaches-grim-reaper-213435800.html

    LOL…I thought this story would get a chuckle from Dave…

  37. 1537
    Eastsider says:

    We now have a projected $7b budget deficit thanks to our inept and incompetent Inslee.

    With his impossible criteria for easing lockdown, we will soon be looking at over $10b deficit. This is totally unnecessary and self inflicted. Already, the state is not collecting enough gas tax to pay for highway maintenance. Perhaps Gates should fund the budget gap since he is the strongest advocate for crashing the budget – he knew it would happen.

    Get ready for statewide workforce downsizing. It’s about time. Even tech companies (Airbnb, Uber, Expedia, Redfin) are not immune.

    Washington Forecasts Billions In Lost Revenue Due To Coronavirus
    https://patch.com/washington/seattle/washington-forecasts-billions-lost-revenue-due-coronavirus

  38. 1538
    Eastsider says:

    The futility of lockdown! Another not-so-smart governor just found out.

    Also, there is no justification for early prisoner release. The politicians should be held liable for crimes committed by these early released felons.

    Most new Covid-19 hospitalizations in New York state are from people who were staying home and not venturing much outside, a “shocking” finding, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday.

    “If you notice, 18% of the people came from nursing homes, less than 1% came from jail or prison, 2% came from the homeless population, 2% from other congregate facilities, but 66% of the people were at home, which is shocking to us,” Cuomo said.

    “This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”

    Cuomo says it’s ‘shocking’ most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

  39. 1539
    Richard says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1499 – property tax will go up. I wish government spending can be cut. Cut UW staff, football coaches! but it is impossible.

  40. 1540
    Richard says:

    RE: Brianna @ 1470 – There are a lot of deals there. buy now or you will be left out FOREVER! Can’t you see 10K Amazonians with money left and right are rushing to the east side to grab a piece of real estate? Can’t you read Zillow predicts there is only a 2% discount in the buyer’s best scenario even with a 40% sale annual drop?
    I can not wait for another proud homeowner to be made :)

  41. 1541
    Al says:

    By Richard @ 1502:

    RE: Brianna @ 1470 – There are a lot of deals there. buy now or you will be left out FOREVER! Can’t you see 10K Amazonians with money left and right are rushing to the east side to grab a piece of real estate? Can’t you read Zillow predicts there is only a 2% discount in the buyer’s best scenario even with a 40% sale annual drop?
    I can not wait for another proud homeowner to be made :)

    I’ve waited 3 years to buy, and it seems there is a real crashy vibe with everything, especially real estate going on, so I will be waiting some more. Fall 2021 should have some big discounted prices, that is, if anyone would actually want to still live here. I read a lot of disillusioned people here that think if we open up the economy everything is going to go back to normal. It’s never going back to normal and the damage is already done.
    It’s like a huge avalanche that is coming towards you but you’re covering your ears and eyes and refuse to look at it, You won’t feel it until it hits you, But it’s going to hit my friends, We will have a major depression, Buckle up!
    It’s financial suicide to buy a home right now.

  42. 1542
    Brianna says:

    RE: Richard @ 1502

    Well, I’ve been looking to buy for years, and I’ve been patient. I’m not in a hurry, other than I just wish my search would finally be over. But I’m not willing to buy something I don’t like and at premium prices. Sigh… realistically it looks like I’m in this search for a while longer.

  43. 1543
    David says:

    I’m still here in Florida and went out to a restaurant today – Cuban food. The beaches were open and the beach restaurants were PACKED.

    I haven’t worn gloves or a mask at all ever.

    Houses are still going under contract. BUT the banks are being a pain per first-hand reports.

    The real question is what is going to happen with $25T in debt. Seriously.

    And the nation’s enemies now have a roadmap for destroying the USA.

  44. 1544
    David says:

    In the last 77 years, the debt has risen by 40,000% – literally 40k%.

    IMO, the debt is going to be eliminated via inflation. Asset prices are going up BIGLY. Repeat BIGLY.

    If you don’t own a house or stock or some asset that rises with inflation – you are going to lose.

    You folks waiting to buy a house once the market turns are kidding yourselves – go to the ocean and try to grab a fast moving wave with your hands. The wave just keeps on rolling far and wide. And you just get left standing in shifting sand.

  45. 1545
    Justme says:

    Looks like the NWMLS numbers are out. SeattleTimes has their map tool up. Here is one whopper of a drop in prices:

    Kirkland-Bridle Trails April, 2020
    Median price: $1,050,000
    Change over the year: -24.3%
    Number of homes sold: 33

    Coming up: Stealtors are already typing to explain it all away.

  46. 1546
    Justme says:

    More from ST article:

    “In Seattle, prices actually rose month-to-month, from $790,000 in March to $815,000 in April — though not in the city’s most highfalutin’ neighborhoods. In Queen Anne and Magnolia, median prices tumbled from $1.2 million in March to just over $1 million in April.”

  47. 1547
  48. 1548

    RE: David @ 1506
    The $2T Stimulus for 2009 That VP Biden Personally Managed Had a High Corporate Tax Rate and Let’s Put It This Way The Bottom 90% of Households Didn’t Get the Obamacare Tax Deduction Because they Can’t Afford $15K/Yr Blue Cross Anyway…LOL…They All Ate Cake, It ALL Basically Went to the Banksters and the Top 10% Household Incomes, Let’s Face It….Democrats Support the Rich Now and Lie to the Poor

    The Trump Stimulus flip flopped it, the corporate folks got MASSIVE Tax Relief and the Bottom 90% [$100K/Yr and Lower] got Stimulus Money and 85% of them got full pay checks too. Which sounds more like an old fashion Democrat, Biden or Trump?? LOL…I heard the stock market is rising as unemployment grew 3M or 10% this week…why ya ask? Its a mixed bag, but today’s 3.2% mortgage housing market money is a lot lower than 4.9% mortgage rate money in 2009 too. Don’t even try to compare Trump to Obama, its a total Fairy Tale book if you try.

    The old NWO had the top 10% smiling and the American citizen along side the undocumented alien poor flipping burgers instead of manufacturing stuff at $30-50/hr. Restaurant owners are mostly in the top 10% household incomes and guess what…that’s why…LOL…Hades Houston reports $2.17/hr to illegal aliens working restaurant jobs…

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-02-24/many-undocumented-restaurant-workers-staying-us-simple-calculation-waiter

    That’s why the restaurant industry is down the toilet today IMO with no chance of picking up the pieces if the PPP loan process stalls out because of undocumented aliens in the restaurant industry. Do you Bubbleheads have another reason PPP loans are a Clown Joke to the restaurants?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paycheck-protection-program-heather-sanborn-owner-rising-tide-brewing-loan-sba/

    This likely explains why Jack in the Box has help wanted signs and I talk to the employees that work there, the legal citizen Latino got their Stimulus Check, they filed a 1040, the rest ate cake…its really that simple. The MSM would never explain this PPP process clearly, they don’t dare.

    The CDC Clowns are kicked off the Trump Task force….their charts are random number guessing IMO and Trump agrees with SWE.

    Hey Dave, Florida reports only 1400 Killer Flu Cases to date; did the CDC Clowns get Florida right? They show ten times as many deaths BTW?

    https://bocanewsnow.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-florida-deaths-to-hit-1400-age-of-pbc-victims-drops/

    OK….now that you’re all mixed up with Florida’s 90% death data inaccuracy CDC Clown window of error, time to fill your MJB mug and read the Brief:

    “… Mask or no mask? Choice brings new social tensions and, sometimes, the stink-eye
    Health officials recommend that everyone wear face coverings in public, but that message isn’t resonating with everyone in the Seattle area. As neighbors eye each other warily, we look at why people are and aren’t wearing masks, and what’s behind the guidance. If you’re wearing one, do it correctly; this visual guide shows how. (Photo: Greg Gilbert / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s Take: If they’re talking everyone wearing N95 filter masks versus cloth masks, one works, the other is a CDC Clown joke?

    “…Coronavirus walloped the Seattle-area home market, knocking down sales and prices. See what’s happening near you with this area-by-area look….”

    SWE’s Take: Being the hottest RE market in America is a CDC Clown joke now too?

    Good News: We don’t trust the MSM anymore….LOL

  49. 1549

    Hey Its Time to fill the mugs with MJB and read the brief:

    “…Coronavirus walloped the Seattle-area home market, knocking down sales and prices. See what’s happening near you with this area-by-area look…”

    SWE’s Take: Seattle is the real estate hotspot too? LOL

    The latest projection shows about 175 Floridians will die a day at the epidemic’s peak on May 5, reaching a total of 6,897 deaths by August. The Washington model is considered conservative because it assumes people will slow the spread of the virus by fully complying with social-distancing measures.
    W.H.O.’s right and W.H.O.’s the Tooth Fairy?

    https://bocanewsnow.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-florida-deaths-to-hit-1400-age-of-pbc-victims-drops/

    Hey Dave is Florida running on real gas or fake news?

    “… In the frenzied hunt for coronavirus supplies, Gov. Jay Inslee looked globally — and within his personal network. With competitive bidding suspended, the governor took the unusual step of connecting his own contacts, including a cousin, with state buyers. Read the Times Watchdog story…”

    SWE’s Take: Inslee’s Cousin supplies home made cloth masks that don’t work either? He makes them in his make-shift garage factory with sewing machines and triples the factory price for PROFIT? LOL

    “…Bars in Washington can sell cocktails to-go now, with certain conditions. The state liquor board’s surprise announcement is expected to put many bars back in business…”

    SWE’s Take: Why do we need to support take out at restaurants when they hand it to us like Jack in the box fast food at $16/plate Duke Burger prices?….LOL…cook it yourself instead.

    “… Daily chart: You can tell a lot about the food system’s crisis by looking at restaurant sales and the number of Washingtonians seeking food aid. As hunger swells across America, the fight over food stamps is heating up….”

    SWE’s take: Yeah and there was plenty of toilet paper at the stores before they fake news scared us into hoarding it like village idiots…they’re doing it with meat now too? If there’s a dire strait meat shortage, how come its only Wendy’s and not McDonalds? Keep your fake news mouths shut and refill the toilet paper aisle again?

    https://www.thestreet.com/investing/mcdonalds-says-meat-supply-chains-are-doing-fine

    Good News: SWE has plenty of toilet paper and meat…LOL, but didn’t hoard it.

  50. 1550
    Justme says:

    NWMLS is hiding the market data

    I haven’t looked at KCBreakouts.pdf for several months, but today I discovered that NWMLS no longer publishes this essential King County, WA statistical release. The last one published was for Jan 2020 transactions.

    How conveeeeeenient. No detailed market data exactly when the market is going to heck. How about it NWMLS, it looks a lot like you are trying to keep the public from being informed about falling housing prices. NWMLS, you should have published the Feb 2020 data around Mar 7. Is it a coincidence that you, NWMLS, started hiding the data just when it became clear that everything was going to heck?

  51. 1551
    N says:

    Justme – You forgot to mention the majority of the neighborhoods that posted quite solid year over year gains. Nice that you pick a neighborhood with very low sales volume too (33). I’m not even a strong bull but this cherry picking was just too obvious.

  52. 1552
  53. 1553
    Justme says:

    RE: N @ 1512

    For most localities, price year over year is not very interesting when there is a sudden crisis and price bust going on. But Kirkland actually manages a big drop anyway. That’s noteworthy

    And as I said above, NWMLS stopped publishing the detailed data so you cannot even find the month-to-month unless you have NWMLS membership and access.

    Sarc alert: Kirkland is prime! Ask any REIC member. How could it possibly drop YOY. It’s unconceivable.

  54. 1554
    kenmorem says:

    look. justme is back! hooray.
    after years of being completely wrong, (s)he is back via pure bad luck of CV-19.

  55. 1555
    Erik says:

    RE: Justme @ 1514
    The all time most incorrect commenter is back. I was thinking justme worked for some investment company trying to trick people into making bad decisions by saying to do the opposite of what makes sense. Let’s see what happens this time.

  56. 1556
    Brianna says:

    Thanks to JustMe, this blog is now back on topic… 😉

  57. 1557
    N says:

    Anyone hearing of tightening on investment loans. Heard second hand that one bank is requiring 35% down for a 6% note.

  58. 1558
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: N @ 1518

    Are you talking 5+ unit Commercial Loan or 1-4 unit, not Owner Occupied, loan?

  59. 1559
    N says:

    Excellent question – I assume traditional 1-4 units, non owner occupied. And I assume its not widespread, just as higher min. credit scores etc are required with some banks right now but not universally.

  60. 1560
    Justme says:

    RE: Justme @ 1511

    Alright, so it turns out that NWMLS still does publish the data but they have changed the location of the data and the name of the file, and the press release points to a location that is not accessible to non-members.

    The gory details: The traditional location for NWMLS press releases remains

    http://nwreporter.nwmls.com/Issues/May-2020/page/Latest-NWMLS-Press-Release

    At that page, there is usually a link to the breakouts, but for Feb-Mar-Apr 2020 press releases, the link does not work anymore. Specifically,

    Other resources:

    Market Activity Snapshot: Shareable Infographic
    Market Report Video: April 2020 (4 min)
    Statistical Reports: view or print reports

    –> http://members.nwmls.com/index.cfm?/News–Stats/NWMLS-Statistics

    which redirects to a member login page that the general public cannot access. However, the current press release is also available at

    https://nwmls.com/News–Information/page/Latest-Housing-Activity-News

    and at that level (one level up from the press release page itself), there is a link to

    https://nwmls.com/News–Information/page/Housing-Market-Statistics

    where you can find the breakouts files. But again you can’t get there from the press release page, because the link on the press release page points to a members-only area that requires a login.

  61. 1561
    sfrz says:

    Too bad greed heads. You distorted the housing market. You gambled and the lights have come on. Pay the man. You lose.

    Airbnb was never about making this your primary income or a way to pay your mortgage. Who gave these gamblers all that easy money? Kinda like they had those Yellen bucks just thrown at em, like a stripper on a tear. Hmm…

    “We were all booked up,” said Scott Weaver. “April and May was full of people. We were ready to go and then along came the lockdown and the guests just all disappeared overnight.”

    Instead, Weaver chose to shutdown his two Airbnb properties and is turning to long-term tenants for the next year.

    His 300-square-foot basement suite is booked for the next three months by a traveling nurse. Her rent is $1,200 a month.

    On Airbnb, that same suite brought in about $3,500 a month during the summer travel season.

    “It hurts but we get by fine,” said Weaver. “For a lot of Airbnb hosts, it is a significant portion of their income.”

    https://q13fox.com/2020/05/06/local-airbnb-hosts-finding-ways-to-fill-empty-suites/

  62. 1562
    sfrz says:

    RE: Justme @ 1507 – Stealtors are liars.

  63. 1563
    sfrz says:

    This party is just gettin’ started. Next up? Food shortages. People will be in the streets soon.

    “The short-term outlook isn’t pleasant. Confidence and economic prosperity drive home sales. Both, like toilet paper and paper towels, are scarce today. Adding an excessive amount of new inventory from anxious sellers — with reduced demand — will drive down prices.

    A few major real estate companies are already bailing out of the market.

    Zillow announced that it is no longer buying homes through its instant offer program that is active in 24 U.S. markets. Redfin has suspended its direct homebuying service, furloughed 7% of its staff and 41% of its agents. Representatives from both companies said withdrawing from buying homes was due to the coronavirus.

    LendingTree chief economist Tendayi Kapfidze thinks that the U.S. might see a complete “shutdown in the housing market.” In a recent interview with Yahoo Finance, Kapfidze noted that the U.S. real estate market could be in for a “rude awakening and a drastic impact.””
    https://www.mtdemocrat.com/business-real-estate/covid-19-infecting-home-sales/comment-page-1/

  64. 1564
  65. 1565
    Voight-kampff says:

    RE: Brianna @ 1524

    Thank you for the link, Brianna. Great objective analysis. I’ve personally been a little unsure how much seattle area RE will suffer as a result of the pandemic. I’m sure RE will suffer, how bad it will suffer, I’m less sure of. The next few weeks of reopening around the country will be very illuminating.

  66. 1566
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1489

    https://youtu.be/QcUAG6t5aN8?t=128
    What It’s Like to Believe Everything the Media Tells You
    https://youtu.be/QcUAG6t5aN8
    luv&bugs Q;o)

  67. 1567
    Richard says:

    RE: Brianna @ 1524 – yes, each homeowner has tons of equity(or paper wealth) in the home . The only problem is that they can not sell their homes at the same time.
    The low inventory narrative implies the homeowner can total control on the market: they can decide when to sell and how much to ask for, and buyers have no control when to buy and how much to pay. That is not true. Of course, nowadays the housing market is insane, you have greedy heads meet hot heads, the market goes to the extreme.

  68. 1568

    Its Time to Gaze Into the Seattle RE Crystal Ball and Predict RE Future Prices, While Gulping MJB and reading the brief:

    Hey…no joke…I found an actual crystal ball at the WINCO parking lot, gift boxed with a $48 price tag [used price?]….now SWE can become the seer of Seattle RE prices….LOL…maybe I’ll sell that baby on eBay…LOL…it looks like real crystal too…

    “…. Seattle permanently closing 20 miles of streets to most vehicle traffic
    East Columbia Street in the Central District is among the streets that have been closed to give people space to walk and bike in neighborhoods across the city. Mayor Jenny Durkan announced yesterday that what began as temporary closures will become permanent, and the list of closed streets could expand further. (Photo: Ken Lambert / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s Take: Ya can’t drive in major portions of Seattle now? That should up RE price growth…not….

    “… Washington businesses are reopening amid frustration and confusion. Gov. Jay Inslee has been laying out new rules and is expected to issue more today affecting everyone from retail shoppers to landscapers. Guidance may not be far behind for businesses listed in the second phase of his plan. Find today’s live updates here….”

    SWE’s take: Even after they open up like malls again, no one shops there anyway now…I imagine restaurants and bars have lost their luster too?

    “…Some King County parks, trails and public lands reopen today. Here are the details and best social-distancing practices to keep in mind if you go. (It’s going to be a hot weekend, but be careful: Rivers and lakes are still dangerously cold at this time of year.)…”

    SWE’s Take: One word that blows this out of the water as a viable option: parking…LOL

    “…More than 20 million Americans lost their jobs in April, wiping out a decade of job gains in a single month, the Labor Department reported today. Roughly a third of the 810,000 Washingtonians thrown out of work by the crisis haven’t gotten benefits yet, and some may be waiting until mid-June…”

    SWE’s Take: Many on Stimulus Unemployment [$500/week] extension now make more money not working than working their old 20-30 hr/week job….Most folks [85-90%] still receive a full pay check and still got a JUMBO family Trump Stimulus Check anyway…

    “… Washington’s hardest-hit workers: Just about every bartender in Washington state has filed for unemployment. FYI Guy looked at jobless claims for the 100 most common occupations to see who else has been slammed hard — and who’s faring the best. Our daily chart fills out the picture with the five sectors feeling the most pain….”

    SWE’s Take: You can get bartender drinks Take Out now for like $10/mug….most of us Seattle lemmings aren’t buying this lame charity to the bartenders…LOL

    “…New U.S. guidelines may pave the way for millions of people to test themselves for the coronavirus at home. A game-changing test kit could cost less than $5 if the Gates Foundation has its way. ..”

    SWE’s take: If ya don’t get Killer Flu tested with proper completion documentation, ya can’t work at MSFT or Boeing anymore? Or attend public schools?

    Good News: Retire early and skip “pot urine employment testing” and still get a pay check….LOL

  69. 1569

    The Uber Rich Are All Switching to $CASH$ Money Market Funds: About $5T Worth Folks

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cash-havens-4-8-trillion-100000528.html

    The MM saving rate is like 0.4%….LOL….hardly no one can save for retirement now? I got into retirement at 0% savings rates anyway, but it took Mojo to invest 100% of matched 401K into ALL American Stocks after the 911 crash to DOW 6000….hey its DOW 24,000 today….4 times the 911 DOW, obviously [even inflation adjusted] much better today…

    I’m in 100% $CASH$ MM as a safe retirement now….the stock market poker game is over for me now and $CASH$ ed in my HUGE pile of chips….LOL

    Social Security may seem like a joke at $2-3k/MO until you realize that about $600-800K of savings at 0% interest is $2-3K/mo income too..LOL….it adds a lot to retirement with no savings. Abolish Social Security and we’re all screwed.

  70. 1570

    Hey Erik, More rent Money for Landlords Anyway?

    https://www.ccn.com/laid-off-in-the-us-you-may-get-raise-if-youre-claiming-unemployment/

    This ain’t no Obama/Biden 2009 Stimulus checks to just the banksters folks, its mostly Trump stimulus checks to legal citizen voters and the banks already got their corporate tax reduction to boot..

  71. 1571

    Hey Dave, Keep That Dr Detroit Bikini Girl Restaurant Delivery Business Spiked…Polish the shiny Pink Caddilac convertible:

    May be you can charge 50% restaurant delivery charge with bikini girl delivery? LOL

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/venessawong/coronavirus-grubhub-food-delivery-fees

  72. 1572
    sfrz says:

    Random Seattle Small Business Owner- bar/restaurant. He’s in a no-win situation. Sad.
    https://www.facebook.com/somerandombar/videos/914987848933001/

  73. 1573
    Brianna says:

    RE: Richard @ 1527

    Yes, you’re right. A few years ago, a place came on the market that was just what we were looking for, but it was listed at 150k over market value. Our realtor called the listing agent about the pricing, and offered for us to pay for an appraisal to come to a fair market price. She turned that down, and insisted that someone would pay this price- even if they had to come in with more cash, if it didn’t appraise for the purchase price. In a year when everything was selling within days, this home was listed in June, and sat on the market all summer. They finally reduced it by 50k, and in late August someone bought it. Oh welll… Needless to say, I can’t wait for a more supply, and a more balanced market.

  74. 1574
    David B. says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 1530 – #OkTrumper

  75. 1575
    ruxpert says:

    — video:
    US coronavirus ‘bailout’ scam is $6 trillion giveaway to Wall St –
    Economist Michael Hudson explains
    https://youtu.be/N-8m5fBbLgQ

    TRANSCRIPT
    Another Giveaway
    https://michael-hudson.com/2020/04/another-giveaway/

  76. 1576

    Happy Killer Flu Saturday Bubbleheads; Time to Guzzle MJB and Plan Some 85 Degree Summer Activities From Isolation and Read the Brief:

    “…Coronavirus walloped the Seattle-area housing market, knocking down sales and prices. See what’s happening near you with this area-by-area look. Read more….”

    SWE’s take: Forbes has one of those 41 Worse Cities For Real Estate Price Collapse URL MSM articles. Its a 4 min Loading Joke for each city and slow to load 41 pictures…don’t go there if you tried it before and it was like a turtle to load. They all float downstream now anyway….

    “…The Seahawks will open their season Sept. 13 in Atlanta and play four prime-time games. Reporter Bob Condotta breaks down each game on the schedule released by the NFL this week. Read more…”

    SWE’s take: It will take a full 1st qtr to get a $12 beer waiting in safe distancing lines 1 mile long…

    Good News: WINCO still has a 6 pack of beer on sale for $3.99….

  77. 1577

    RE: ruxpert @ 1535
    Right and Wrong ruxpert:

    https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/2-trillion-stimulus-Trump-family-business-15156668.php

    Here’s Where Most of the $2T Money Went So Far:

    Beefed-up unemployment benefits. What they got: People who are unemployed would get an extra $600 per week for up to four months, on top of state unemployment benefits to make up for 100 percent of lost wages.
    Loans to industries: $500 billion. What they got: The Treasury Department would divvy up a $500 billion pot of loans to struggling industries like airlines, and even cities and states.
    Checks on the way. What they got: All U.S. residents with adjusted gross income up to $75,000 ($150,000 for married couples) would get a $1,200 ($2,400 for couples) “rebate” payment.
    Hospitals gets their wish: $100 billion. What they got: Health care providers would secure $100 bill

    SWE’s take: Why didn’t Biden give stimulus money directly to legal citizen tax payers in 2009?

  78. 1578
    sfrz says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 1537 – So you’re going Trump on the distinguished Dr. Michael Hudson. SWE, Trump sign in the MH Park yard. Right…

    “Prof. Michael Hudson is a veteran of Wall Street and Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri at Kansas City (UMKC). He counsels governments on finance and tax policy, and gives presentations all over the world to groups reflecting diverse academic, economic and political constituencies.”

  79. 1579
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1526

    Lockdowns For Thee, Not For Me! – #NewWorldNextWeek
    https://youtu.be/DPTaQ2tlPEk?t=214

    many links to below stories unavailable / unable here
    ========
    Fernwoods @ aol.com
    May 9 2020

    “PROF. LOCKDOWN” CAUGHT MASSAGING THE STAATS – YouTube
    8 min. video
    https://youtu.be/7Ep58auSuoE

    Neil Ferguson, the epidemiologist who triggered a global economic collapse after his ‘Imperial Model’ predicted #Covid deaths in the millions, has resigned from his position after violating #lockdown orders with his married lover, Antonia Staats. Now, breaking info has us all questioning

    Mr. COVID-19 Neil Ferguson: Who really is this British disinfo agent? | SOTN: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary

    Dr. Fauci Took Buffoonish Projections from Garbage Investigator to Crash US Economy — Neil Ferguson Was Internationally Known for His Goofball Predictions
    …Ferguson was wrong about the bird flu, mad cow disease, swine flu and now coronavirus.
    And yet the media and Dr. Fauci took this guys predictions to push the lockdown that crashed the US economy…

    Neil Ferguson, who started the lockdown panic, cheats on his own lockdown By Andrea Widburg | RUTHFULLY YOURS

    Neil Ferguson, Government Scientist Who Spearheaded Lockdowns, RESIGNS after breaking lockdown rules to meet his married lover – Geller Report News

    Elon Musk attacks professor Neil Ferguson over ‘absurdly fake science’ – Business Insider
    … Elon Musk has labeled a top British scientist a “tool” and attacked his work after the scientist was caught breaking lockdown to rendezvous with his married lover.

    Neil Ferguson, 52, leads a team at Imperial College London that published the paper that helped persuade the UK government to introduce its national lockdown. His advice has also been cited by the White House and other governments.

    Ferguson on Tuesday resigned as a formal adviser to the UK government after a British newspaper revealed that he had been breaching the lockdown rules in his private life.

    The Daily Telegraph reported that Ferguson had allowed his lover, the 38-year-old Antonia Staats, to break lockdown and visit him at his London home during the crisis….

    Failed past predictions from a COVID-19 “expert” | Behind The Black

    Neil Ferguson, the Imperial College London epidemiologist and professor of mathematical biology that has been called the “gold standard” of disease modeling, according to the New York Times and Washington Post, and whose initial predictions that the Wuhan flu would kill more than two million people in the United States and half a million in the UK, has in the past routinely made absurdly wrong and vastly overstated predictions for numerous other diseases.

    The article compared Ferguson’s predictions with the real data for the following:

    Bird Flu: Ferguson predicted up to 200 million deaths worldwide. So far 455 people have died.

    Mad Cow Disease: Ferguson predicted up to 150,000 deaths. So far 178 people have died.

    Ferguson’s predictions for coronavirus have been as bad. His initial prediction of 2.2 million deaths in the U.S. is going to be so wrong that every politician and individual that cited it to justify the Wuhan panic should be made to apologize, publicly.

    ….Why have our press and politicians repeatedly relied on this quack’s predictions? Could it be that his over-the-top cries that the world is about to end might serve their interests, and not the general public’s?…..

    Imperial College Prof Neil Ferguson Accused Of ‘Patchy Record Of Modeling Pandemics’ – (or a record of coming to the ‘right’ conclusion for his masters?)

    Professor who said 500,000 Britons could die ‘has patchy record’ | Celebrity-hub

  80. 1580
    don says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1539

    Kinda like a truckload of bacon ends and pieces, Ruxpert.

    I can’t tell whether to be more aghast at “Woody” Ferguson or the temptress Antonia “Randy” Staats.

  81. 1581

    Killer Flu Dying Out Now and Its Mother’s Day, drink MJB and read the Brief:

    “…Two months into the pandemic, the patients keep coming and the local health workers who care for them are sometimes contracting the virus. At least 1,626 health staffers have tested positive in Washington. The crisis has changed the nature of jobs and intruded into personal lives in all sorts of ways. Read more…”

    SWE’s Take: Even my adult son’s disabled funds have increased to prevent Killer Flu deaths. Its not essential travel to visit any type of relatives either today. Live with it. I wave to him twenty feet away.

    “…Forecasters say the economic recovery from the coronavirus crisis is likely to stretch well into 2021 or beyond, and may be especially hard for some segments of the population. Read more…”

    SWE’s Take: Forecasters also predict low wage restaurant workers can work and be homeless too, the non-manufacturing service wages suck. Flu or no flu. MACA Make America Cook Again..LOL

    “…Hundreds of Washington families are flocking to virtual schools, some of which are run by for-profit companies. Read more.

    SWE’s Take: 100s of students, how about the other 200,000 students, they get left behind a year for getting all Fs? Colleges too? Why are we paying $10K/student federal tax dollars for this Public School Circus Clown Joke?

    “…This sportswriter’s mother missed a particularly memorable sports moment — but she didn’t miss much else. On Mother’s Day, here’s a tribute to Seattle Times UW football writer Mike Vorel’s favorite nurse and sports fan. Read more…”

    SWE’s Take: They are all “Stay at Home Inslee Law Cheaters” without safe distancing [they’re touching elbows] , no Killer Flu masks and their lame excuse, its Mother’s Day….LOL

    “…Makoto has designed and built homes in Japan, in California, on the East Coast and in Washington, along with stunning, singular pieces of furniture. Read more. ..”

    SWE’s Take: I’m impressed, the Japanese build great rotted cow barns and use no paint…check out the dump the Japanese built in Brief picture.

    “…Nobody’s playing in person these days — but there’s a whole new dimension of fun and friendship in videoconference game nights …”

    SWE’s Take: Don’t set up your teleconferencing using Biden’s Mad Magazine campaign staff if you want a clear picture with real sound…LOL

    “…It’s not your imagination: Around the Pacific Northwest and the country, everyone’s been baking like fiends. Here’s what Seattle’s been cooking up during the coronavirus quarantine. Read more…”

    SWE’s Take: The picture in the Brief looked like a “Burned Loaf of Bread” Hollowed Out with “God Knows What” stuffed under the crisp black bread. Dump it in the trash and cook a real meal.

    “…This soup has a highly drinkable broth that is complex enough to satisfy, yet light enough to maintain your enthusiasm to eat Another Thing Today. Read more…”

    SWE’s Take: Looks like meatless crap with phony beef salt cubes boiled in water, about as nutritious as eating saw dust…LOL…try that boil noodles in a styrofome container, its cheaper…LOL

    Good News: We may not cook the crap on the Brief, but Grubhub delivers $30 Jack in the Box burgers….LOL

  82. 1582
  83. 1583

    The Unemployment Fun Goes On and On Now?

    https://apnews.com/8df9ba7b96e1563c176c3485398adb99

    Reset time for American economy?

  84. 1584
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1539

    The Farce and Diabolical Agenda of a ‘Universal Lockdown’
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-cruelty-universal-lockdown/5710798

    ===
    The data is fake: 96.3 % died as a result of other diseases
    Italian Leader Slams ‘False COVID-19 Numbers: 25K Did Not Die, it’s a way to Impose a Dictatorship’
    https://youtu.be/bUCWcft6kao

  85. 1585
  86. 1586
  87. 1587
    don says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1546

    Nope, nice try though, really

  88. 1588
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1544

    Bill Gates’ Plan to Vaccinate the World
    https://youtu.be/o7A_cMpKm6w

    https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/

  89. 1589
    David says:

    By softwarengineer @ 1542:

    Hey Dave The Florida Beaches and Businesses May Be Open

    https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/nation/florida-nursing-home-deaths-from-covid-19-spike-dramatically-up-to-22-at-a-single/article_8444c406-a2e3-5bef-a899-a6b675121e7b.html

    But those at risk are being killed off like flies?…Happy Mother’s day!

    Memo to Reality:

    If you’re in a NURSING HOME – you were already at death’s door.

  90. 1590
    Beano says:

    By Mackenzie @ 1473:

    By Beano @ 1472:

    BS – we can protect the vulnerable and allow everyone else to resume life. We aren’t going to destroy ourselves for the extra 5% of “protection” that’s insane and displays a total inability to do basic calculus.

    I am going to have to disagree. Not one country has been able to isolate the vulnerable. Every country has seen mass deaths in their nursing homes, even the much vaunted Sweden. The reality is that the vulnerable need to be cared for by the not so vulnerable, and these not so vulnerable carers wind up being transmission vehicles. It’s just not feasible to hermetically seal the vulnerable populations away from the young and hale.

    It’s a legitimate choice to say that saving the vulnerable populations is too high a cost for wrecking the economy, but let’s not kid ourselves about being able to somehow seal off the vulnerable from the disease as it runs rampant everywhere else. No state or country has achieved such a targeted isolation policy and it’s hard to believe that some brilliant new isolation strategy can be devised to help.

    False:

    https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/04/not-in-my-nursing-home-french-care-home-staff-lock-down-with-residents-to-see-out-covid-1

    Not one country tried. Busy locking down schools and writing tickets to surfers.

  91. 1591
    Beano says:

    By wreckingbull @ 1484:

    By Voight-kampff @ 1474:

    RE: Beano @ 1472RE: Beano @ 1472
    I agree and clearly stated that the economic cost is part of the calculation.
    Please propose exactly how you would protect the vulnerable? You may also propose any calculus problem you need solved.

    I doubt you will get a good answer from Beano. That said, there are three attainable things that need to occur in order to protect the vulnerable (who are not just the old – this includes medical workers).

    1. Adequate PPE for all medical and long-term care personnel.
    2. Fast and accurate antibody and PCR testing
    3. Graph-based contact tracing

    These are all reasonable things to require, in fact many other countries have already achieved this. Our leadership, of course, has no idea how to get this done. We will likely get the worst of both worlds – economic disaster and life-destroying flare-ups.

    I doubt wreckingbull has any special knowledge or insight into anything.

    Targeting everyone is targeting nobody. The policy used by nearly everyone has been a disaster.

    It’s almost incredible that someone pretends we can’t target a vulnerable population when we just witnessed constitutional and human rights suspended, yet somehow I must pretend that it would be impossible to focus extra resources and money on nursing homes?

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/cuomo-reverses-nursing-home-directive-to-take-covid-19-patients-requires-more-staff-testing/2410533/

    Cuomo ordered nursing homes to accept COVID positive patients….that was a catastrophic policy. He has now, after several weeks, reversed this policy after it finally got attention. Nearly everyone was shocked to find this policy existed.

    Not enacting such terrible policy would be a simple starting point.

    Many can solve calculus problems, it’s as easy as following rules – but few can apply calculus and understand the problems or solutions.

  92. 1592
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Beano @ 1549 – Supporters of Cuomo’s dad, Mario, developed this rhyming campaign ditty against rival Abe Koch: “Vote for Cuomo, not the h*m*.” Great people.

    Gov. Cuomo admits he was wrong to order nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients

    The gov’s people say that a home that simply can’t accommodate coronavirus patients never had to take them — though they are obliged to help those people find a place that will, with help available from the state if needed. That is: Zucker’s mandate was never more than a “don’t discriminate” rule.

    But Zucker publicly presented it as “must accept” — and Cuomo’s remarks regularly implied there must be something wrong with a home that couldn’t handle corona patients.

    So, while the gov’s people imply that some homes simply misunderstood the rules, the real message to operators was that declaring themselves overwhelmed would put their licenses at risk.

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/10/cuomo-was-wrong-to-order-nursing-homes-to-accept-coronavirus-patients/

  93. 1593
    Beano says:

    By Blurtman @ 1550:

    RE: Beano @ 1549 – Supporters of Cuomo’s dad, Mario, developed this rhyming campaign ditty against rival Abe Koch: “Vote for Cuomo, not the h*m*.” Great people.

    Gov. Cuomo admits he was wrong to order nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients

    The gov’s people say that a home that simply can’t accommodate coronavirus patients never had to take them — though they are obliged to help those people find a place that will, with help available from the state if needed. That is: Zucker’s mandate was never more than a “don’t discriminate” rule.

    But Zucker publicly presented it as “must accept” — and Cuomo’s remarks regularly implied there must be something wrong with a home that couldn’t handle corona patients.

    So, while the gov’s people imply that some homes simply misunderstood the rules, the real message to operators was that declaring themselves overwhelmed would put their licenses at risk.

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/10/cuomo-was-wrong-to-order-nursing-homes-to-accept-coronavirus-patients/

    Targeting everyone is targeting no-one.

    Let’s not pretend it’s difficult to put greater resources and policy attention towards sick/elderly. We just suspended constitutional and human rights with little blow-back – it’s comparatively easy to target nursing homes.

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/cuomo-reverses-nursing-home-directive-to-take-covid-19-patients-requires-more-staff-testing/2410533/

    A good starting point would have been to not FORCE nursing homes to accept CV positives. Everyone was shocked beyond belief when they discovered this was policy.

    Cuomo now agrees and reversed policy. Geez… that was so hard.

  94. 1594

    RE: David @ 1548
    The Article Not Only Mentioned the Clients’ Dying

    The young staff working at Nursing Homes are dying like flies too, Tyson meat plants showed 19% tested positive for Killer Flu, its Ohio plant was shut down today for Killer Flu Cleaning. Its like the Wuhan fish plant right next to the outbreak Chinese laboratory epic-center…a Killer Flu pit Hades.

    This a good reason to save MASS retirement $CASH$ now for care givers and house cleaners at your home when you get old Dave…..or an $8,000/mo decent nursing home that doesn’t stench immediately after you open the entree door. Even a $700,000 Seattle home will be enough equity for about 1 year of decent hygiene in a good nursing home. A pod adult family nursing home for a severely disabled adult is usually clean and code enforced; but even these State run nice place family homes cost like $5-6K/mo and I’ve noticed a lot of MASS clients are getting kicked out too, they lack medical evidence to qualify as budgets are sucked dry.

    The Pod home my son qualifies for has ramped up client expenditures for Killer Flu too…..more in home care giving and medical supply face masks worn 24/7…its not chump change either. No non-essential visitors allowed either.

    I think Ardelle made a good point, when an $8000/mo place for Mom is needed, care for her at your own family home to save money. Sounds good until ya find out the disable clients who can’t move can’t be brought to a doctor and when lifted from beds, there are bed sores a lot of time and the State will blame the family for wrongful death in this case is lethal too. Be real care careful to have emergency 911 staff remove her for doctor visits and pray you aren’t charged with 3rd degree murder [many are].

  95. 1595
    Mackenzie says:

    By Beano @ 1549:

    False:

    https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/04/not-in-my-nursing-home-french-care-home-staff-lock-down-with-residents-to-see-out-covid-1

    Not one country tried. Busy locking down schools and writing tickets to surfers.

    That isn’t a country, just one nursing home in one country, and even that experiment ended after 49 days when the staff had had enough of being shut-in. In fact, this example just goes to prove that point that it’s not possible to isolate the vulnerable over the long term. The vulnerable require that the young and healthy provide care and services, and this means that a transmission pathway to the rest of society will stay open.

  96. 1596
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Mackenzie @ 1552

    Many Asian countries are doing quite well. E.g. Vietnam, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong.

  97. 1597

    Time to Chill Out, Sip Some MJB and plan your day, read the brief:

    “…Clusters of filled cracks are visible under the 36-year-old bridge, which closed in March when the cracking accelerated. As contractors race to shore up the span long enough to figure out whether it can be fixed, one suspect is a design problem linked to something called “creep.” If you’re craving more information about the bridge, join us for a live Q&A at 1 p.m. tomorrow. You can submit questions now. (Photo: Mike Siegel / The Seattle Times) …”

    SWE’s Take: The King Dome concrete roof is another similar doomed design error too…we blew the cracked concrete structure up decades ago and still owe mortgage on it today? The Tacoma Dome is still standing with a cloth roof…and built about the same time as the King Dome.

    “…Six Snohomish County sheriff’s deputies were placed on leave while a multi-agency team investigates two use-of-force incidents within days of each other, in Arlington and the Lynnwood area….”

    SWE’s Take: This Killer Flu is affecting everyones’ mental health, even policemen?

    Good News: Mild herb euphoric Legal 21 isn’t near as lethal as depression causing Black Label.

  98. 1598
    N says:

    Vacation real-estate markets are ‘toast’ because of the pandemic as Airbnb owners rush to offload their homes, Redfin CEO says

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/vacation-real-estate-markets-are-toast-because-of-the-pandemic-as-airbnb-owners-rush-to-offload-their-homes-redfin-ceo-says-2020-05-11?mod=home-page

  99. 1599

    RE: Eastsider @ 1553
    LOL

    “…Professionals are skeptical. “There is no evidence that Koreans, or other populations, have specifically strong adaptive immune systems” to the virus, said Gurel.

    And big picture, Korea’s high testing/high numbers/low mortality ratios are not the only way forward: Neighbor Japan has lower overall numbers, but a higher percentage of fatalities.

    “We were very strong in the early spread,” Kim said. “In Japan, there is a shortage of testing kits and they only focus on patients which show symptoms. You could say that is a strategy.”…”

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/why-are-koreas-covid-19-death-rates-so-low/

    SWE’s Take: Both Japan and South Korea march to the Chinese pipe organ W.H.O. out of fear. Europeans are more honest like America, high death rates…

  100. 1600

    RE: N @ 1555

    I Always Thought Vacation homes Were a Financial Joke, for Decades Now

    Motels a couple weeks a year make an RV payment or vacation home look like a Clown Joke.

  101. 1601
    sfrz says:

    RE: N @ 1555 – TOAST and LIQUIDATING. Those gamblers in the Housing Bubble Casino will have the pay the man.
    Commericial real estate is suffering too. All the mixed use buildings those EB-5’s paid for are going belly up.

    “Kelman: It’s on like Donkey Kong. There’s going to be a major move. That was already underway just because of the affordability crisis. People are leaving New York for Philadelphia and are leaving San Francisco for Sacramento and even Phoenix. Seattle was starting to lose people to Tacoma, which is just down the street.

    I think some of it is about consumer wariness where we’re living in close quarters with other people. But most of it’s about employer flexibility. Employers that were really stuck on whether to let people work from home have gotten completely unstuck. And if you can work for Goldman Sachs GS, -0.97% , but not in New York, if you can work for Amazon AMZN, +1.22% , but not in Seattle, well, why would you pay the premium?”

  102. 1602

    Build the Killer Flu Wall Travel Bans Like Hawaii Stopping Foreign Visitors and See no Killer Flu Deaths?

    https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/nfm05O1W28VNChJY0RloYg–/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTQ3MA–/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/EsuIbm1lVzs_54BcdtJgMg–~B/aD0zNjQ4O3c9NTQ3MjtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en-us/usa_today_news_641/d036e9d32ecc7b2e9e462a8439d29f4c

    Hay Dave, check this Hawaii picture out, empty beaches and GREATLY MITIGATED flu deaths go hand in hand? Build the WALL! LOL

  103. 1603
    Mackenzie says:

    By Eastsider @ 1553:

    Many Asian countries are doing quite well. E.g. Vietnam, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong.

    Interesting point. These “successful” Asian countries have not been isolating their vulnerable populations. Instead, they have taken aggressive testing and tracing strategies, which is NOT what has been done in Europe or USA. As part of this these countries intrude on personal liberties in a way that will likely not fly here. For example, they track people on mobile phones (alerting you when you go somewhere where someone who was infected was). They also take people who test positive and put them in quarantine centers (none of this “self” isolation stuff). Does anyone think that would fly in the USA?

  104. 1604
    Notme says:

    Teh working from home
    B2C — back to Cleveland
    who needs Seattle?

    -an sfraz bubble haiku

  105. 1605
    Eastsider says:

    By Mackenzie @ 1560:

    Interesting point. These “successful” Asian countries have not been isolating their vulnerable populations. Instead, they have taken aggressive testing and tracing strategies, which is NOT what has been done in Europe or USA. As part of this these countries intrude on personal liberties in a way that will likely not fly here. For example, they track people on mobile phones (alerting you when you go somewhere where someone who was infected was). They also take people who test positive and put them in quarantine centers (none of this “self” isolation stuff). Does anyone think that would fly in the USA?

    South Korea has the most cases. They don’t put people in “quarantine centers”. They have fewer CV tests per capita than the US. And they don’t lock down the country.

  106. 1606
    Mackenzie says:

    By Eastsider @ 1562:

    South Korea has the most cases. They don’t put people in “quarantine centers”. They have fewer CV tests per capita than the US. And they don’t lock down the country.

    I stand corrected. South Korea isn’t putting positive people in centers, but they do have very invasive GPS tracking and alerting, with government officials constantly contacting them. They have to install apps that allow the government to track them.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/06/905459/coronavirus-south-korea-smartphone-app-quarantine/

  107. 1607
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Mackenzie @ 1563 – Wrong again. From the article –
    “The app is not mandatory.” “Others can simply opt out.” Also, Google and FB already track your every move. What’s new?

  108. 1608
    David B. says:

    By Eastsider @ 1564:

    RE: Mackenzie @ 1563 – Wrong again. From the article –
    “The app is not mandatory.” “Others can simply opt out.” Also, Google and FB already track your every move. What’s new?

    It’s 100% completely OK when corporations do it for private profit, but it’s tyranny when public agencies do it for the public benefit. Haven’t you heard?

  109. 1609
    Eastsider says:

    RE: David B. @ 1565 – EU has very strict regulations on privacy. The US is definitely behind.

  110. 1610
    David says:

    By softwarengineer @ 1559:

    Hay Dave, check this Hawaii picture out, empty beaches and GREATLY MITIGATED flu deaths go hand in hand? Build the WALL! LOL

    I was at the beach yesterday. Still don’t have the Wuhan Virus.

  111. 1611
    sfrz says:

    Help! I’m drowning! I need to pay my C Class payment. I got so drunk on those Yellen bucks, I just HELOC’d myself stupid. I will throw in the furniture and those pans! Hell, I’ll even throw in those terry bath robes and the BBQ. I promise it’s a steal. Airbnb heaven. Those tourist will be back. That money will flow into your empire. Just sign right here… Only 7,796 to go!

    “Best of Queen Anne & Fremont, stylish townhome is walking distance to both! Showcasing a gourmet kit w/ granite counters & SS appliances, inviting living rm w/ hardwood floors, deck, gas fireplace & fenced yard off kit for BBQ’s. Top floor master suite w/ territorial views, luxurious bath & deck for morning coffee, 2nd floor enjoys 2 spacious beds (one w/ deck) & full bath & lower entry w/ large laundry room w/ utility sink. Assigned parking & No Dues! Furnishings available. Amazing Location!”
    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/44-Florentia-St-98109/home/129319

  112. 1612
    Blurtman says:

    Home comes with abandoned contractor equipment.

    Get this on the market NOW!

    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Leavenworth/25714-Primitive-Park-Rd-98826/home/75149764

  113. 1613
    wreckingbull says:

    RE: sfrz @ 1568 – I would not want to own a Seattle condo or townhome today. We are still in the midst of a massive apartment building boom. AirBNBs are coming back on the market in a highly distressed manner, and without a doubt, demand is being obliterated. It could turn out to be a perfect storm.

    I do think it is mildly interesting to see homes being listed/advertised ‘with supplies’, as if a closet full of sheets, some windex, and a vacuum make a home more attractive to potential buyers. I have seen this in multiple different listings.

  114. 1614

    The MJB Mug Got Drained Dry of Brief Stuff Related to RE, Here’s the Only Story That Caught My Eye:

    “..Staff cuts and furloughs are coming at UW Medicine, which faces a $500 million shortfall because of the pandemic. It’s been a big player in the fight against coronavirus…”

    SWE’s take: Just UW Medicine staff furlough pink slips? How about all staff at UW furloughed like the restaurants, why are we paying ’em money not to teach? Same with public schools, furlough all the staff now. Last I heard the federal deficit pays $10K/student to public schools that don’t teach. Use that money for homelessness and unemployment costs instead.

    Good News: In some states stay at home laws mean no landscapers/trimmers allowed, they’re non-essential….so let your lawns go to pot and blame Inslee…LOL

  115. 1615

    Dave Likes Tesla Better Than Fauci Now

    “…Musk has repeatedly played down the seriousness of the coronavirus, at one point calling the panic “dumb.” On the company’s earnings call late last month, he called the quarantine measures “fascist” and used profanities to describe what he saw as “forcibly imprisoning” people in their homes against their constitutional rights.

    Musk’s erratic behavior continued this month when he tweeted that Tesla’s stock price was “too high,” sending shares plummeting during the middle of trading on May 1. Since then, he has consistently complained about the stay-at-home orders, saying Tesla has been unfairly singled out among large automakers and railing against California officials…”

    https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Tesla-s-Elon-Musk-reopens-factory-defying-county-15264111.php

    SWE’s Take: California’s Thirst for all electric cars by 2025 just shorted out with Killer Flu shutdowns? Fauci is trying to convince the Senate Hearing that we must keep the economy shutdown until Nov 3rd? All future virus mutations lead to worse strains later? Actually I hear the opposite with mutated strains actually. W.H.O.’s right and W.H.O.’s the Tooth Fairy?

    Good News: We don’t know whether Fauci is a blithering idiot or not?

  116. 1616

    Food Inflation On Eggs and Meat Especially, About 3% Now

    https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106533480-1589290135460-20200512_Food_at_home_prices_surge.png?v=1589290146&w=630&h=426

    Add in car insurance inflation, property tax inflation, car tabs inflation, cable TV inflation, Home maintenance labor inflation, etc…and your puny wage raise is easily sucked dry and then some….

  117. 1617
    David says:

    By Blurtman @ 1569:

    Home comes with abandoned contractor equipment.

    Get this on the market NOW!

    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Leavenworth/25714-Primitive-Park-Rd-98826/home/75149764

    How does a house in the boonies relate in ANY WAY to Seattle rel estate?

  118. 1618
    sfrz says:

    RE: David @ 1574 – Your FLORIDA comments? Your beach, trees, and Florida store comments? Just curious.

  119. 1619
    Blurtman says:

    RE: David @ 1574 – Asks the Florida poster. Take another hit.

  120. 1620
    sfrz says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1569 – Airbnb that went south for that FB before the driveway was poured. HELP! MAYDAY! I’m in debt up to my arse!

  121. 1621
    David says:

    By Blurtman @ 1576:

    RE: David @ 1574 – Asks the Florida poster. Take another hit.

    Blurtman (aka ‘DogSqueeze’) –

    Posts a house on road in a national forest on the other side of the mountains as representative of Seattle real estate.

    Sfrz and Blurtman sittin around grinnin – both high on stupid.

    #Douchebags #OfAFeather

  122. 1622
    Blurtman says:

    $650/sq.ft. and please take $4,200 out of my pocket per year for the privilege of living in this 1905 condo. With off street parking. SIGN! ME! UP!!!!

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/418-W-Crockett-St-Seattle-WA-98119/60972004_zpid/

    And now that the RE post is out of the way, I was glad to see Rand Paul ream that prima donna 79 year-old Fauci a new one. But folks, you heard it here first, although the imbecile Fauci will never describe the COVID-19 reality.

    “Paul, a medical doctor, noted during the Senate hearing before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee, that the mortality rate among children ‘approaches zero’, and that for those aged 18-45 “the mortality in New York was 10 out of 100,000.””
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/youre-not-end-all-rand-paul-slams-fauci-heated-exchange-over-lockdowns

  123. 1623
    sfrz says:

    RE: David @ 1567 – And this relates to SEATTLE REAL ESTATE HOW?

  124. 1624
    sfrz says:

    RE: David @ 1505 – And this relates to SEATTLE REAL ESTATE how?

  125. 1625
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1579 – On street parking. No garage. Purchased in 2014 for $470,000. A 9% yearly appreciation! YOWZER, IT’S EASY MONEY!!!!!

  126. 1626
    Whatsmyname says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1579 – I think we should also note that the unemployment rate among those 85 and older surely approaches zero; and that of people aged 70-85, the unemployment rate is probably not more than 10 in 100,000.

  127. 1627
    Blurtman says:

    Blather: Set among the trees with privacy and stillness, you’ll find yourself unwinding as soon as you step foot onto this amazing property. Lake Wenatchee less than a mile away and recreation in every direction. This brand new construction will be completed in the next couple months with 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, loft, open living area and covered wrap-around deck. Room for toys with a two-car detached garage. Act quick and customize the finishes! $40K projected nightly rental income.

    Translation: Windows, doors, exterior siding – who needs it? Buy this gem now (because the market has COLLAPSED!!!!!!)

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/86-Bruce-Ln,-Leavenworth,-WA-98826_rb/2079631437_zpid/

  128. 1628

    Not to Worry $CASH$ Stripped Recession Victims; Your House Can’t be Tapped Like a Tom Selleck Reverse Mortgage Ad, “I Know What You’re Thinking”…$CASH$ Machine

    “…Lenders are increasingly turning away homeowners looking for equity lines of credit or a cash-out refinance, spooked by the surge in unemployment and the jump in requests by borrowers to skip mortgage payments.

    After years of rising home prices and the longest stretch of economic growth in history, Americans have amassed $18.7 trillion in real estate equity, a $CASH$ cow that’s now untouchable, forcing some of them to seek other, less favorable alternatives…..”

    https://www.yahoo.com/money/americans-struggle-to-tap-home-equity-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-182046240.html

    SWE’s Take: Like bankruptcy and foreclosure? So where does this 2.8% easy 30 year mortgage money get really approved to? The extinct dinosaur” 832 credit rating” folks only now? Maybe S-Crow knows?

    OK…Time to Guzzle MJB and Read the brief:

    “… Your dining experience will be dramatically different when restaurants reopen
    Liz Elkins, general manager of Poquitos on Seattle’s Capitol Hill, takes server Alex Anaya’s temperature as part of a daily screening process before he was cleared to work yesterday. Brace for major changes as restaurants reopen their dining rooms, ranging from masked servers to the recording of your personal data. Here’s a refresher on when other things might reopen, from campgrounds to hair salons and more. (Photo: Ellen M. Banner / The Seattle Times)..”

    SWE’s take: The Killer Flu test swab test can be performed at the restaurant [and your name address identity logged as positive Killer Flu “police ordered” quarantined two week period] and then “mandatorially” retested two weeks to error on the side of caution? New employment procedure and school attendance testing requirements? BTW…what proof is there that positive test results suddenly make ya “Killer Flu” contagious? Tooth fairy tale “cooked” books? W.H.O. data that Fauci relies on? LOL

    “… Washington state has 1,371 people trained and ready to begin tracking down the coronavirus through contact tracing, Gov. Jay Inslee said as he outlined how this will work. See the spread of the virus across the state and the globe, and find today’s live updates here…”

    SWE’s Take: Are the Inslee Killer Flu “inaccurate testing” tracking police like the KGB? Retired school buses will be picking up the MASSES of Killer Flu quarantined “positive test” victims from their homes to be transported securely and indefinitely housed in fenced internment camps like”infected” criminal alien refugees in dog cages? After all, Fauci claims without a vaccine we must error on the side of caution?

    “…Two top U.S. health officials painted a grim picture of the months ahead in Senate testimony yesterday that clashed sharply with President Donald Trump’s portrayal. The scene was extraordinary. Here are the key takeaway…”

    SWE’s Take: We don’t make Executive Orders with a President anymore, Fauci makes Trump look like a raving idiot even hinting the economy should open soon? Fauci for 2020?

    “… Millions of counterfeit medical masks, gloves and gowns are reaching frontline health workers across the country, putting lives at risk…”

    SWE’s take: They come from China, God forbid they give us real N95 face masks that actually work? LOL…Trump is considering sanctions against China today for this rude behavior too.

    “… Travel is picking up at Sea-Tac Airport, which is adding social distancing measures. Some travelers are wondering what took so long…”

    SWE’s take: I saw the empty/isolated cancelled plane flights TV pictures of SEA-TAC airport today, this is Fake News.

    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/11/50/43/19302601/23/920×920.jpg

    “… Expect a big fight over the latest, $3 trillion coronavirus relief bill, which would send cash payments to households and $1 trillion to states and cities. Here are the highlights…”

    SWE’s Take: If the word “diversity” emphasis on money grants is there Democrats vote for it, if this worthless mandate to treat Killer Flu is removed Trump won’t veto it…LOL….sounds more like $500B without useless pork attached to it then…LOL

    “…The Port of Seattle put a police officer on leave after he posted a video telling fellow officers they shouldn’t enforce social-distancing orders, which he called “tyrannical.”..”

    SWE’s take: How dare that police officer defy the Inslee KGB “stay at home” testing police…pick him up with the retired school buses for internment camp imprisonment too? His action is clearly in defiance of rule of law?

    “…Seattle-area listings of houses for sale are down sharply from last year, our daily economy chart shows….”

    SWE’s Take: The market is red hot for sales at high prices with no “qualified” buyers? Sounds like a hot Dodge Charger with no gas in it…LOL

    “…Where have all the heart-attack victims gone? Please call 911 if needed, King County fire chiefs are telling the public amid a steep, pandemic-era decrease in the number of calls from people with symptoms of heart attacks, strokes and other serious medical issues…”

    SWE’s Take: The Killer Flu already killed them all off?

    “…Should the West Seattle Bridge be knocked down? How can you get where you need to go during the closure? Our Traffic Lab team tackled those questions and more in a Q&A that you can watch here….”

    SWE’s take: Just chance it, it will only kill off thousands more if it crashes down open….wear useless Chinese phony face masks more, that will fix it….LOL

    “…High school proms, graduation ceremonies have been canceled due to coronavirus. Tell us what you’ll be doing instead….”

    SWE’s Take: How about a BIG BEER party for the 2020 “failing” graduates all getting 0.0 GPAs…LOL

    “…In subsequent executive orders, landscaping was among the industries singled out as nonessential. MNLA and Upton worked with lobbyists to advocate for the industry, and they tried to stress how landscaping companies could work safely. Instead of hearing any comments about their efforts, it was radio silence from Lansing and the statehouse…”

    SWE’s take: The Inslee Stay at Home KGB will imprison all lawn care folks for working and mowing lawns? The retired school buses are picking up the landscape folks for internment camp isolation now too? All HOAs that require mowing lawns with paid lawn care folks will be arrested too? LOL

    “…In subsequent executive orders, landscaping was among the industries singled out as nonessential. MNLA and Upton worked with lobbyists to advocate for the industry, and they tried to stress how landscaping companies could work safely. Instead of hearing any comments about their efforts, it was radio silence from Lansing and the statehouse…”

    https://www.landscapemanagement.net/how-landscape-companies-handling-covid-19-concerns/

    Good News: Inslee now alleges its politically correct to not only have a long bushy hair wearing a phony face mask, but requirements require an unkempt lawn too….LOL

  129. 1629
    sfrz says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1584 – Dayum… that’s gotta hurt. They got it framed and then dropped their tools. Somebody is fooked. – “projected income?” when was that “projected?”

  130. 1630
    Paulie says:

    RE: David @ 1567

    I like your thoughts because if I inverse them I am usually right.

    Go on not wearing a mask boomer. The stubbornness and pride at something as simple as putting a mask on your face by a minority of people is the kind of behavior that will cause this thing to go on way longer than it needs to. Even if the liberals are libtarded and overreacting, the data gives them good reason to do so. Every day you fail to contribute, show that society takes this seriously, and prevent a little extra spread is costing young people their economic future a little more.

    A lot of the people, either laid off, or who got coronavirus, said “it can never happen to me!” Then it did. You seem to think it’s all a big juice job and can never happen to you, but your selfishness is going to cost everyone else in big. Even if your behavior ends up being harmless individually, which it likely won’t, it’s harmful in aggregate if everyone does it.

    We SHOULD open back up but c’mon man, yield a little and just wear the f*ng masks

  131. 1631

    Not to Worry, We can All Telework Permanently Now, Even Though Most Folks Aren’t Allowed to Telework?

    “…But now, as the pandemic eases its grip, companies are considering not just how to safely bring back employees, but whether all of them need to come back at all. They were forced by the crisis to figure out how to function productively with workers operating from home — and realized unexpectedly that it was not all bad.

    If that’s the case, they are now wondering whether it’s worth continuing to spend as much money on Manhattan’s exorbitant commercial rents. They are also mindful that public health considerations might make the packed workplaces of the recent past less viable.

    “Is it really necessary?” said Diane M. Ramirez, the chief executive of Halstead, which has more than a thousand agents in the New York region. “I’m thinking long and hard about it. Looking forward, are people going to want to crowd into offices?’’…”

    https://dnyuz.com/2020/05/12/manhattan-faces-a-reckoning-if-working-from-home-becomes-the-norm/

    Time to convert Seattle Area office space into homeless camps now? Why live in an expensive Seattle Condo anymore too if its all telework anyway? Move to the cheaper subburbs instead…Dave has the answer, maybe Erik does?

  132. 1632
  133. 1633

    RE: Paulie @ 1587

    Yes Paulie

    I like ’em wearing phony scarves and cloth masks that don’t work too…then I can keep a ten foot poll between them and me, they may be walking Killer Flu Typhoid Marys if they wear masks now? It was an old hospital rule before Killer flu…if you’re sick with stuffed nose or fever you must wear a mask, otherwise you didn’t have to…a much better rule IMO.

    We should resume sneezing only in cupped hands, then washing them too. This juicy sneezing in the air with Killer Flu snot all over your arm is a Clown Joke….LOL…no wonder they say wash your coat after getting groceries…LOL…its smeared all over everything in the store from Killer Flu victim snot smeared arms now?

  134. 1634
    sfrz says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 1590 – My brother tested positive, and has been sick for 30 days because somebody coughed on him during a grocery run. If that person would have had a mask on, the droplets would not have infected him. He was being so careful and following the guidelines, as he has a vulnerable wife with a heart valve replacement. He has been stuck in the spare bedroom while she has been crying and steralizing everything with alcohol, hoping not to get it. She died for 16 minutes this last summer from a massive bleed due to RSV and coumadin effects, so their fear is real.
    Just thankful the virus didn’t put him on a vent. FYI- works in IT on the east coast- middle aged non-smoker, healthy, lean build. No one is immune.

  135. 1635
    Blurtman says:

    RE: sfrz @ 1591 – Sorry to hear it. But being healthy, non-obese without a comorbidity doesn’t mean you are immune to COVID-19, just that your risk of death is very low. Regarding your SIL, I’d be scared as well, but she may also at increased risk with the flu, swine flu, EBV, differed bacterial infections and the wood smoke from your neighbor’s fireplace.

  136. 1636
    sfrz says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1592 – Correct. They are very aware and take all the precautions they can, including being labeled germaphobes! :)

  137. 1637
    Eastsider says:

    The total number of deaths from all causes in the US has been within expectation (99%*) since 2/1. Deaths in WA, OR, CA are all below expectation at 94%, 90%, and 97% respectively. Georgia is at 92% and Florida 99%. Both Georgia and Florida reopened weeks ago and the press has been absolutely silent on the (resurgent?!) Covid-19 cases in the two states. What is Inslee’s data-based justification for continued lockdown?

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

  138. 1638
    uwp says:

    By Eastsider @ 1594:

    The total number of deaths from all causes in the US has been within expectation (99%*) since 2/1.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

    Hi Eastsider! I’m glad you’re back with the CDC data we discussed earlier in the thread on 4/27. You were pointing out then that expected deaths from 3/7-4/4 was running under 100%:

    According to latest CDC data (link below), between week 3/7 and week 4/4, total US deaths from all causes was 281,419 (280,016 in the article). Total Covid-19 deaths was 10,734 (8,128 in the article). The percentage of expected deaths for the 5 weeks were 96%, 94%, 94%. 101%, and 111%. There were no “excess” deaths in the 5 week period.

    I mentioned that the data was not fully up to date, and the footnotes on the CDC charts explains there is a significant lag in death reporting.

    We can go back now just a couple weeks later and see those weeks have moved upward to 99%, 97%, 98%, 105%, and 119% of expected deaths. Deaths from all causes over that time-frame has increased by roughly 13,000 since your post, now surpassing the total number of expected deaths.

    If you check the weeks following 4/4 you might notice that the week of 4/11 had 129% of expected deaths, 4/18 had 123% of expected deaths, and the numbers for 4/25 are already over 100% as well. Those numbers will rise as deaths continue to be reported.

    I don’t know what the final death count will be, but you are continually minimizing the numbers for some reason. Obviously, the country will have to re-open (a great many things never closed), but ignoring the seriousness of the situation doesn’t help.

  139. 1639
    Eastsider says:

    RE: uwp @ 1595 – I’m not minimizing the numbers. There is simply no evidence/projection that total deaths from all causes will differ from expectation by any meaningful amount in the current flu season from Oct 5, 2019 to May 30, 2020.

    You should look up total deaths during the 2017/18 flu season if you want to be taken seriously.

  140. 1640
    Eastsider says:

    The chickens are coming home to roost. Mostly self inflicted. E.g. The latest asinine directive requiring logging and unreasonable capacity cap will bring about permanent restaurant closures.

    Inslee orders hiring freeze, other spending restrictions at state agencies
    https://komonews.com/news/local/inslee-orders-hiring-freeze-other-spending-restrictions-at-state-agencies

  141. 1641
    JustNoise says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1597
    You seem to think that when restrictions are lifted, the world will move on like nothing happened. This isn’t the case. We will be dealing with the fall out for years to come. And perhaps some of the fall out needed falling out. Regardless, whether lockdowns are/were the proper reaction to Covid-19 will also take us years to understand.

    Instead of posting ad nauseam on the futility of lockdowns, why not tell us what you think is going to happen to Seattle real estate prices in the next 6 months? 12 months? 24 months?

  142. 1642
    Beano says:

    By Mackenzie @ 1552:

    By Beano @ 1549:

    False:

    https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/04/not-in-my-nursing-home-french-care-home-staff-lock-down-with-residents-to-see-out-covid-1

    Not one country tried. Busy locking down schools and writing tickets to surfers.

    That isn’t a country, just one nursing home in one country, and even that experiment ended after 49 days when the staff had had enough of being shut-in. In fact, this example just goes to prove that point that it’s not possible to isolate the vulnerable over the long term. The vulnerable require that the young and healthy provide care and services, and this means that a transmission pathway to the rest of society will stay open.

    You just made the point that lockdowns are pointless – and you are right. Thank you.

    Checkmate.

  143. 1643
    Beano says:

    By Eastsider @ 1562:

    By Mackenzie @ 1560:

    Interesting point. These “successful” Asian countries have not been isolating their vulnerable populations. Instead, they have taken aggressive testing and tracing strategies, which is NOT what has been done in Europe or USA. As part of this these countries intrude on personal liberties in a way that will likely not fly here. For example, they track people on mobile phones (alerting you when you go somewhere where someone who was infected was). They also take people who test positive and put them in quarantine centers (none of this “self” isolation stuff). Does anyone think that would fly in the USA?

    South Korea has the most cases. They don’t put people in “quarantine centers”. They have fewer CV tests per capita than the US. And they don’t lock down the country.

    The Koreans themselves said lockdowns are pointless and don’t work. Amazing there is no self-reflection on our own disastrous policies. We are married to old ideas from Feb that have been empirically disproven, not the least of which is the fact CV isn’t very deadly.

  144. 1644
    Eastsider says:

    By JustNoise @ 1598:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1597
    You seem to think that when restrictions are lifted, the world will move on like nothing happened. This isn’t the case. We will be dealing with the fall out for years to come. And perhaps some of the fall out needed falling out. Regardless, whether lockdowns are/were the proper reaction to Covid-19 will also take us years to understand.

    Instead of posting ad nauseam on the futility of lockdowns, why not tell us what you think is going to happen to Seattle real estate prices in the next 6 months? 12 months? 24 months?

    There is no doubt that we will be dealing with the fallout for years to come. However, we can certainly manage the extend and severity of the fallout. LA’s extreme decision to lock down for additional 3 months is unconscionable. Same for closing schools indefinitely. Sweden has suffered economically but not to the same extend as its neighbors. Sweden’s death rate is no worse than France, Italy, Spain, UK, and Belgium.

    IMO it is reckless to buy RE in this uncertain economic period. I would advise against taking on huge debt to buy a house. You will likely regret it.

  145. 1645
    sfrz says:

    Open the floodgates, the dam is about to burst. FB’s running for the exits! Get outta the way!

    “Desperate sellers are dropping the prices of their homes after a glut of properties flooded onto websites today as Britain’s housing market was reopened in a bid to get the country moving again during the lockdown.

    Some 2,150 properties have been added to RightMove in England, Wales and Scotland over the past 24 hours – a huge increase on the preceding days – as Robert Jenrick lifted the ban on moves – while many properties are now being reduced in a bid to shift them quickly.

    Prices are now dropping, with examples today including a three-bedroom terraced house in Tottenham reduced from £410,000 to £385,000 today, and a one-bedroom flat in Tooting down from £450,000 to £395,000.” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8315081/Coronavirus-UK-Homes-flood-market-desperate-owners-battle-sell.html

  146. 1646
    sfrz says:

    TOAST! Last rites for the scum vultures?

    Airbnb laid off more than 150 in Portland
    “The layoffs Airbnb announced last week hit the company’s Portland office especially hard.

    The vacation rental listing service laid off 1,900 employees last week, a quarter of its global workforce, to address the steep decline in travel triggered by the coronavirus outbreak. Airbnb said it expects revenue this year to be half what it was in 2019.

    The Portland layoffs numbered at least 150 and, according to laid-off employees, may have been twice that number.

    Airbnb occupied two buildings in Old Town. It started as a customer service office and later added engineering and other roles. It’s not clear how many people worked there before the layoffs but the total appears to have been at least a few hundred, and perhaps as many as 400.”
    https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2020/05/airbnb-laid-off-well-over-100-in-portland.html

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  148. 1648
    Blurtman says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1604 – What the doctor is saying has been pretty obvious. Our governors knew that the elderly with comorbidities were at high risk for the virus. Why did they not act to isolate during nursing homes? Why did not that imbecile Fauci provide appropriate information and guidance?

  149. 1649

    RE: sfrz @ 1591
    The Person Coughing On Him Tested Killer Flu Positive?

    Hades your brother could have caught Killer Flu from the Wendy’s Burger he gobbled down or even his own home’s contaminated door/car handle/knob/keys….a million possibilities, not one with more likely an allergy caused sneeze related to “politically correct” scarves not worn in public, not flu. Are you suggesting we sneeze with masks on or off? How do ya wipe the juicy snot sneeze away with your coat arm then? LOL…its hopeless

    Shopping in public with any allergy symptom is non-essential and banned too.

    I do hope your brother is well and yes, my sister has a pace maker and is vulnerable too….I’m lucky, my heart, weight and sugar levels are quite normal/healthy and even my blood pressure goes way down de-stressed. Its all diet, very little exercise at age 66.

  150. 1650

    OK….I have a May 26, 2020 hair appointment to rid SWE of His Alice Cooper Hair Style If It Isn’t Delayed to June 26? Shampoo your “Alice Cooper” long hair more, remove your mask and gulp MJB, enjoy differences in opinion, ya learn that way:

    Don’t sweat the small stuff, its all small stuff…LOL

    “… A lonely Ramadan, but spirit of generosity remains for Washington’s Muslim community
    The Khan family breaks fast at their Woodinville home during Ramadan. Mahmood Khan, left, says they miss visiting MAPS, the largest Islamic center in the state. But mosques have been closed for months. Instead, Muslim communities have used their ingenuity to adapt Ramadan observances to the state’s stay-home order. Here is how they’re staying afloat and continuing to worship while giving back. (Photo: Erika Schultz / The Seattle Times) ..”

    SWE’s take: While religious/good folks obey the Inslee stay at home law and don’t go to their religious places, landscapers drive $80K shiny 2019 giant shiny “Tundra V-8 trucks” and gather in “haughty” packs of stay at home cheaters, laughing like “organized crime” devils. …I caught a gathering of landscapers in four shiny gas hog trucks and when confronted if they were non-essential [they are, like hair cutters], they weren’t nice about it [even after I told them I did not agree with all laws, but obey them anyway]. They were special, and restaurant workers eat cake? LOL…Hades, the flu germs can be all over their “nonessential” lawn mower handles? Yeah, they disinfect them? LOL….they rarely obey safe distancing from what I see too. They hardly never wear masks either.

    “… Gov. Jay Inslee has ordered a hiring freeze for state agencies as he and lawmakers look at steep budget cuts. The agencies helping Washington’s most vulnerable residents could be hit hardest.
    Starbucks is demanding landlords lower its rent for the next year amid the “staggering economic crisis.” The move could have broad ripple effects in Seattle and elsewhere…”

    SWE’s Take: The State awarded about $20/day in disabled adult family homes extra Killer Flu funding this month. They are also auditing Protective Payees for paying the disabled rent to these homes [I got the distinct feeling many weren’t paying their rent] and kicking the less disabled out of the homes….the honest/real disabled are doing better now. There is almost no diversity emphasis either lately, its all legal citizen disabled proof. Period.

    “… The U.S. faces the “darkest winter in modern history” unless leaders take steps to keep the virus from rebounding, Dr. Rick Bright is telling members of Congress today. Bright says he was ousted from his federal job after delivering warnings. President Donald Trump, meanwhile, is clashing with top scientists as he pushes to reopen schools…”

    SWE’s Take: Follow Bright’s/Fauci’s advice and make schools all computer aided Looney Toon cartoons instead of real schools next year?

    “… A major coronavirus test missed a large number of positive results, a preliminary study says. It’s the speedy test used by the White House…”

    SWE’s take: Killer Flu testing has been a Clown Joke for months on accuracy and availability. The WH uses the same Fairy Tale tests we all do. China supplies ’em I hear…LOL

    “… Washington state is allowing bunk beds for farmworkers despite coronavirus risks, after fruit growers argued that doing otherwise would wreck the industry. They’ll have new rules to follow…”

    SWE’s take: The illegal alien $2/hr slave farm workers eat cake in cramped/decrepit homeless type shacks spreading Killer Flu.

    Good News: If you a lucky dog teleworker and it works well, they may keep it that way to save overhead expenses of useless offices.

  151. 1651

    Drink Milk Like a Fiend Now

    The vitamin D they add in milk cures Killer Flu? The Hades with skin cancer, a good sun tan adds vitamin D too….so lay around in the sun all day and guzzle Black Label?

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/new-study-suggests-vitamin-d-linked-covid-19-mortality-141201888.html?bcmt=1

  152. 1652
    Eastsider says:

    Top National Guard Officer Warns Of Potential Civil Unrest Without Action On Failing Economy
    https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/top-national-guard-officer-warns-potential-civil-unrest-without-action-failing-economy#stream/0

    Hawaii National Guard Major General Kenneth Hara said he is concerned about the possibility of civil unrest if a plan is not finalized to move toward easing Hawaii’s ongoing lockdown.

    “At some point we need to accept risk. We have to accept that people will get infected and we have to push it to the threshold of what our healthcare system can handle. If we let the economy go the way it’s going, I feel there will be significant civil unrest and, worst case, civil disturbance and rioting,” he warned.

  153. 1653
    Al says:

    After all said and done, how much do you think real estate will crash? 20-70%?

    I think 50%, backing up this number with nothing.

  154. 1654
    Beano says:

    By Al @ 1610:

    After all said and done, how much do you think real estate will crash? 20-70%?

    I think 50%, backing up this number with nothing.

    Seattle will drop more than suburbs…. as dense urban areas have less reason for being.

    I expect the government to be successful in preventing a bottom dropping out of housing. 10-15% decline. 3 years for this cycle to process and recover. Some areas won’t even drop and others will drop more. Not peanut butter spread. Very different this time.

  155. 1655
    Erik says:

    RE: Beano @ 1611
    “THIS….TIME…..IS…..DIFFERENT!”

    Historically, the odds would say that this time is not different.

  156. 1656
    techie says:

    As a techie living in Seattle, I will be leaving the area if housing prices don’t drop. I can afford buying at the current prices, but it’s just not worth it – renting here is cheaper, buying in nicer places is cheaper.

    No reason to pay these prices when I can do the exact same work remotely *better*, in a larger house, in an area where the government doesn’t do everything possible to chase my employer away and to give my kids worse education just because they are not poor.
    Given geographical mobility, many engineers will go to areas with nicer weather and nicer governments, leaving little solvent buyers at the current prices.

    This time is indeed different, as everyone has a full year’s forced run of office-lite work. People who make a good living by leeching the tech industry should learn to work and become useful. Having a worry-free life just because you happened to live here in 2003 and inherited a house is not sustainable – hosts eventually either die or escape their parasites.

  157. 1657
    Jeff says:

    By David @ 1578:

    By Blurtman @ 1576:

    RE: David @ 1574 – Asks the Florida poster. Take another hit.

    Posts a house on road in a national forest on the other side of the mountains as representative of Seattle real estate.

    Sfrz and Blurtman sittin around grinnin – both high on stupid.

    #Douchebags #OfAFeather

    Posts about his Florida beach excursions on the other side of the nation as representative of Seattle real estate. Talk about high on stupid.

  158. 1658
    ruxpert says:

    Washington Governor To Residents:
    COVID-Test-Deniers Will Not Be Allowed To Leave Home To Get Groceries
    May 13, 2020
    https://www.activistpost.com/2020/05/washington-state-governor-to-residents-covid-test-deniers-will-not-be-allowed-to-leave-home-to-get-groceries.html

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  161. 1661
    sfrz says:

    RE: NWA @ 1616 – That is horrible. Sweet Jeebuz. There will be blood.

  162. 1662
    Hsea says:

    What’s wrong with the flip ?
    What wasn’t adequate ?
    RE: sfrz @ 1617

  163. 1663
    sfrz says:

    SPOOKED! Those freakin buyers are acting like horses during a storm. Settle down and sign right here, and here, and here. It’s okay. It’s a perfect time to buy whispered the Stealtor, as the door closed behind them.

    “As the pandemic started flickering to life in the U.S., Oliver Hoare listed his Kirkland, Washington, home for just under $1 million. It’s the same city where one of the earliest outbreaks of COVID-19 in the U.S. emerged in a nursing home, killing nearly 40 people.

    Hoare says the property had received thousands of hits online from prospective buyers, and then “three to four days after it listed, that’s when the shutdown really started to happen.”

    He accepted an offer near the asking price, but the buyer pulled out the next day.

    “I would be spooked,” Hoare says. “I work for a big travel company. Uber has laid off thousands of people. … Expedia has, Airbnb has.””
    https://www.wkms.org/post/housing-market-stalls-potential-buyers-lose-jobs-stay-indoors#stream/0

    Whew! What will happen to dear Oliver with Expedia. Will he be able to get that ball and chain off his ankle? Will he have to fold? Stay tuned. Wipe that sweat off your brow Oliver. HEY! I got it. Just lower that price! I’m sure someone will take that have the key to take that off your ankle. What?! You’re not giving it away? Oh well, I guess you need a little time to ride it down. Stay hungry Oiiver.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-hoare-07199a22

  164. 1664
    David says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1609 – It is just a matter of time til one of these policians is assassinated for violating the Bill of Rights.

    A critical mass of people are going to suffer severe deprivation in some fundamental way that they cannot recover from and then it is going to happen.

  165. 1665
    David says:

    By Beano @ 1600:

    By Eastsider @ 1562:

    By Mackenzie @ 1560:

    Interesting point. These “successful” Asian countries have not been isolating their vulnerable populations. Instead, they have taken aggressive testing and tracing strategies, which is NOT what has been done in Europe or USA. As part of this these countries intrude on personal liberties in a way that will likely not fly here. For example, they track people on mobile phones (alerting you when you go somewhere where someone who was infected was). They also take people who test positive and put them in quarantine centers (none of this “self” isolation stuff). Does anyone think that would fly in the USA?

    South Korea has the most cases. They don’t put people in “quarantine centers”. They have fewer CV tests per capita than the US. And they don’t lock down the country.

    The Koreans themselves said lockdowns are pointless and don’t work. Amazing there is no self-reflection on our own disastrous policies. We are married to old ideas from Feb that have been empirically disproven, not the least of which is the fact CV isn’t very deadly.

    Remember, more DOCTORS smoke Camels than any other cigarette.

  166. 1666
    Jeff says:

    By David @ 1620:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1609 – It is just a matter of time til one of these policians is assassinated for violating the Bill of Rights.

    Another wet dream for the Yellow Dog. Are you practicing for this with your toy assault rifle at the local shooters club? Maybe some crazies like you are. Sounds like one more reason for us to “take all your guns” as you paranoid gun loonies are always blathering on about.

    What’s hilarious is that comments like yours make tighter gun regulation more possible, as moderate folks seeing that kinda crap would certainly not want folks like you possessing a kitchen knife, let alone a hand gun, and certainly not an AR.

  167. 1667
    Eastsider says:

    By Jeff @ 1622:

    What’s hilarious is that comments like yours make tighter gun regulation more possible, as moderate folks seeing that kinda crap would certainly not want folks like you possessing a kitchen knife, let alone a hand gun, and certainly not an AR.

    Hmm… so you think there were no crazies when the second amendment was ratified in 1791? Your statement makes no sense. No, I am not a NRA member.

  168. 1668
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    Did anyone else get a notice from PayPal that Tim cancelled the automatic $5 monthly payments? Wondering if this means he may be selling the site or something along those lines.

    This is what the email said “Seattle Bubble has suspended your automatic payments. Contact Seattle Bubble for more details or to reactivate your payments.”

  169. 1669
    Jeff says:

    By Eastsider @ 1623:

    By Jeff @ 1622:

    Hmm… so you think there were no crazies when the second amendment was ratified in 1791? Your statement makes no sense. No, I am not a NRA member.

    We all know crazies have existed throughout history. Back when 2A was conceived, they generally tried to keep the crazies out of the “well regulated militias”. See, even the founders knew that regulating arms was a good idea, which is why they put the word “regulated” right in that beloved second amendment of ours.

  170. 1670
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1625 – 2A has been around for 228 years. Your position, including “not want(ing) folks like you possessing a kitchen knife“, is completely off base. I don’t think you actually believe David and his gun is a danger to the society. Stop being a tyrant.

  171. 1671
    David says:

    By Jeff @ 1625:

    By Eastsider @ 1623:

    By Jeff @ 1622:

    Hmm… so you think there were no crazies when the second amendment was ratified in 1791? Your statement makes no sense. No, I am not a NRA member.

    We all know crazies have existed throughout history. Back when 2A was conceived, they generally tried to keep the crazies out of the “well regulated militias”. See, even the founders knew that regulating arms was a good idea, which is why they put the word “regulated” right in that beloved second amendment of ours.

    Actually they kept the ‘gays’ out of the militias to maintain good order. Penicillin was not yet invented – so it makes perfect sense.

    Friendly reminder that guns have – in LARGE numbers – been owned continuously since the beginning in an UNBROKEN chain of GUNS GUNS GUNS.

    Meanwhile, g_odless tyrants have killed tens of millions in the name of communism and Bernie Sanders LOVES them enough to vacation with them!

    Remember, being a Bernie-Bro or China-Biden supporter is kind of like being the priest’s favorite altar boy.

  172. 1672
    justsomedude12 says:

    I’ve been seeing government directives that it’s OK to be at a beach as long as you keep moving, but you cannot sit in one place (i.e. put down a beach towel and have a picnic/read a book/get some sun) even at the proper social distance.

    Genuine question, why is staying in one place at the proper social distance not allowed? Am I missing something?

    I disagree with pretty much everything the yellow dog in Florida says, but these government directives are starting to feel like “nobody can enjoy themselves when others are suffering”. I’m starting to think that’s what they mean when they say “we’re all in this together”.

    Just like “we’re basing our decisions on science and data” is code for “when I mention the words science or data, nobody can question my decisions”.

  173. 1673

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1624

    It Could Be a Legal Income Tax Anomaly

    Deduction of income for website costs become $0 when you add nothing to date for about 6-12 months….Trump and the DOJ are hammering hard on folks like Sen Feinstein who sold her stocks last February with government classified insider stock trading; a couple Democrats and a Republican got caught by Trump’s new FBI with their hands in the illegal cookie jar…..its called the “rule of law”…LOL

    My cheap remodeled flipper in Kansas is under Code attack too from somewhere as they offer $CASH$ to me almost daily to evict my daughter and sell it to them….the last Friday code remedy had a 10 day fuse to like mow the lawn….my legal advice if you’re a flipper: who turned this bogus stuff in to the code folks…the Tooth Fairy or the wannabe $CASH$ buyer(s) testing my impossible reaction to an “out-of-State” ten day fix time limit that anyone could call a Code Clown Joke? Don’t argue is my advice, pay off [bribe?] a landscaper to contradict the Code Clowns [get them on your team IOWs] that know nothing about landscaping and get the “paid in full” invoice to state in writing the expert landscaper completion is up to Code. Set a legal bear trap IOWs and FAX it to code ASAP. If they argue sue ’em [on contingency] for harassment. S-Crow knows exactly what I’m talking about. Case is closed now IMO…LOL…hey I could be a RE attorney? Never fight City Hall, you’ll lose.

    No brief today, but I did catch some FOX business remarks today, so pour your MJB and read what I found today from FOX:

    The CDC is making these almost unclear requirements requirements now for re-opening non-essential businesses anyway:

    1. Reopening must comply with Governor Inslee’s rules [whatever the Hades that means]

    2. The openings must not impact Killer Flu transmission [whatever the Hades that means]

    See why I call ’em the CDC Clowns…LOL…these rules are Codes impossible to comply to….LOL

    Good News: Just destress and don’t fight, you’ll lose anyway. Inslee’s Stay at Home Law is rule of law for now…even if rule of law essential definitions are updated daily on a blackboard with erasable chalk…LOL

  174. 1674
    Jeff says:

    By Eastsider @ 1626:

    RE: Jeff @ 1625 – 2A has been around for 228 years. Your position, including “not want(ing) folks like you possessing a kitchen knife“, is completely off base. I don’t think you actually believe David and his gun is a danger to the society. Stop being a tyrant.

    There isn’t anything in 2A that says we can’t or shouldn’t take kitchen knives away from crazies like Dave. Besides, he probably doesn’t even own a kitchen knife, as I imagine he eats at the fast food drive thrus most of the time, and doesn’t even know how to microwave a frozen dinner.

    One man’s tyrant is another man’s Trump. MAGAMF

  175. 1675
    David says:

    RE: justsomedude12 @ 1628 – You can absolutely sit on the beach in Florida all you want.

    Maybe God is telling me to stay here for a while. I just came here to buy a vacation house for 5 months of the year while I buy a house in East Seattle. I’m unsure when I’m coming back at this point.

    Quick update on the murder case I am REFUSING to testify in until the DA changes their stance on cooperating with ICE. He’s hired John Henry Browne. How the HECK can that Somali idiot afford JHB?

  176. 1676
    Eastsider says:

    From WSJ –

    Canada Housing Sales Plummet

    Canadian housing sales plunged in April, setting a record for the biggest one-month drop, while the amount of inventory on the market surged—a clear sign the pandemic has sideswiped one of the most important drivers in Canada’s economy.

    National resale figures for April from the Canadian Real Estate Association indicate sales fell a seasonally-adjusted 56.8% from March, the steepest decline on record. On an actual, not seasonally-adjusted basis, sales fell 57.6% on a year-over-year basis.

    The report also indicated the amount of time it would take to liquidate current housing inventory at the current rate of sales activity shot upward to 9.2 months, or an increase of over four months from March.

  177. 1677
    Jeff says:

    By David @ 1631:

    RE: justsomedude12 @ 1628 – You can absolutely sit on the beach in Florida all you want.

    Maybe God is telling me to stay here for a while. I just came here to buy a vacation house for 5 months of the year while I buy a house in East Seattle. I’m unsure when I’m coming back at this point.

    Quick update on the murder case I am REFUSING to testify in until the DA changes their stance on cooperating with ICE. He’s hired John Henry Browne. How the HECK can that Somali idiot afford JHB?

    At least he got a real defense lawyer, rather than one paid for by the government like yourself. You usually seem to think that anything the government subsidizes is worthless, and in your case you may be right.

  178. 1678

    Inslee’s Legal Rule of law on Stay at Home is Just a blackboard and erasable chalk

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/21/jay-inslee/are-stay-home-orders-laws-jay-inslee-said/

    And for gosh sakes Inslee Says “don’t shake hands anymore”, its not politically correct or somehow against rule of law now? LOL

    https://static.politifact.com/CACHE/images/politifact/photos/AP_20063724269294/00926bcc2f3828a9ef34c536906e0dbb.jpg

  179. 1679
    David says:

    By Jeff @ 1633:

    By David @ 1631:

    RE: justsomedude12 @ 1628 – You can absolutely sit on the beach in Florida all you want.

    Maybe God is telling me to stay here for a while. I just came here to buy a vacation house for 5 months of the year while I buy a house in East Seattle. I’m unsure when I’m coming back at this point.

    Quick update on the murder case I am REFUSING to testify in until the DA changes their stance on cooperating with ICE. He’s hired John Henry Browne. How the HECK can that Somali idiot afford JHB?

    At least he got a real defense lawyer, rather than one paid for by the government like yourself. You usually seem to think that anything the government subsidizes is worthless, and in your case you may be right.

    I’ve NEVER been employed by the Government. I’ve never received a check with the Statue of Liberty printed on it.

    I’m also 40+% acquittal rate on murder cases – a pretty good stat. Even higher on rape cases!

  180. 1680
    Eastsider says:

    Retail and food services sales for April 2020 dropped a whopping 21.6% from the same month a year ago. This is going to greatly reduce WA state sales tax revenue. How is this sustainable? Why are we not opening up like Georgia and Colorado?

    https://www.census.gov/retail/marts/www/marts_current.pdf

  181. 1681
    Jeff says:

    By David @ 1635:

    By Jeff @ 1633:

    By David @ 1631:

    RE: justsomedude12 @ 1628 – You can absolutely sit on the beach in Florida all you want.

    Maybe God is telling me to stay here for a while. I just came here to buy a vacation house for 5 months of the year while I buy a house in East Seattle. I’m unsure when I’m coming back at this point.

    Quick update on the murder case I am REFUSING to testify in until the DA changes their stance on cooperating with ICE. He’s hired John Henry Browne. How the HECK can that Somali idiot afford JHB?

    At least he got a real defense lawyer, rather than one paid for by the government like yourself. You usually seem to think that anything the government subsidizes is worthless, and in your case you may be right.

    I’ve NEVER been employed by the Government. I’ve never received a check with the Statue of Liberty printed on it.

    I’m also 40 % acquittal rate on murder cases – a pretty good stat. Even higher on rape cases!

    Maybe I’m mistaken, but I thought you mentioned you were a public defender, most of which are paid for by local and state governments, not the Statue of Liberty. Still, I would never call you if I needed defense, though I never have and probably never will.

    Good job on those rape cases dude.

  182. 1682
    Jeff says:

    By David @ 1635:

    By Jeff @ 1633:

    By David @ 1631:

    RE: justsomedude12 @ 1628 – You can absolutely sit on the beach in Florida all you want.

    Maybe God is telling me to stay here for a while. I just came here to buy a vacation house for 5 months of the year while I buy a house in East Seattle. I’m unsure when I’m coming back at this point.

    Quick update on the murder case I am REFUSING to testify in until the DA changes their stance on cooperating with ICE. He’s hired John Henry Browne. How the HECK can that Somali idiot afford JHB?

    At least he got a real defense lawyer, rather than one paid for by the government like yourself. You usually seem to think that anything the government subsidizes is worthless, and in your case you may be right.

    I’ve NEVER been employed by the Government. I’ve never received a check with the Statue of Liberty printed on it.

    I’m also 40+% acquittal rate on murder cases – a pretty good stat. Even higher on rape cases!

    I thought you previously mentioned you were a public defender. Sorry if I was mistaken. Good job on those rape cases dude. Glad I’ve never needed such defense services and likely never will.

  183. 1683

    RE: Eastsider @ 1636
    Interesting Take Eastsider

    But food went up recently about 2-3% in price too they say.

    The cows are sitting in beef plants without butchering and the milk is excess stock now in MASS quantities poured down the toilet bowl drain. I hear beef suddenly went down in price yesterday, contradicting yesterday’s news “meat shortages at Wendy’s now”…Inslee’s blackboard of laws just got erased and changed again today? I’m going back to my “crystal ball” I found at WINCO for news, its more reliable…LOL

  184. 1684

    Inslee’s Black Board With Erasable Chalk Rule of Law of Legal 21 Shop Sales Just Went Into Effect

    They screen you for fever or ya get no bag of weed…LOL…its 6 foot safe distancing with ropes blocking counters now too. Paying for it with $CASH$ means breaking the 6′ safe distance law too…LOL

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-fever-is-1004-in-ohio-its-995-in-minnesota-states-companies-write-their-own-rules-for-temperature-screening-in-a-pandemic/ar-BB147Kyb

  185. 1685

    Seattle Police Officer Fired for Defying Inslee Stay at Home Law

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/video-urging-defiance-of-stay-at-home-rules-could-cost-this-officer-his-job-and-make-him-a-lot-of-money-2020-05-13

    See why I suggest comply to Inslee ridiculous laws anyway, you’ll never beat City Hall…LOL and it could cost you your job too. Set legal bear traps instead too fool ’em..LOL

    I have a friend and business partner who fought the State on anomalous workmen compensation changes on a contract company…he’s like $50K in legal cost losses for a $15K fine..LOL. You may feel good about fighting City Hall uselessly anyway, but it will cost you dearly.

  186. 1686

    RE: Jeff @ 1633

    Most American Voters Support ICE

    Abolish ICE as a Democrat campaign agenda and watch Biden disappear even faster down the toilet.

  187. 1687
    richard says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1632 – everytime I read a headline like this. I translate it to realtors earned less in the last month. Nothing more. It doesn’t mean anything other than that. It doesn’t mean the price will go down or go up. When the media report something negative about housing market, it all means realtors are not doing well. Then a realtor expert will come up on TV to cheer up the buyer and seller to help them do better.

  188. 1688
    Jeff says:

    By softwarengineer @ 1640:

    RE: Jeff @ 1633

    Most American Voters Support ICE

    Abolish ICE as a Democrat campaign agenda and watch Biden disappear even faster down the toilet.

    I don’t remember suggesting abolishing ICE, although it is interesting that David is using that issue to bring politics into his interactions with the justice system. We do need to have some kind of agency or agencies reasonably and fairly enforcing our immigration laws, whether you think it should be ICE or something different.

  189. 1689
    sfrz says:

    Keep on sawin’ and a slashin’. Sellers haven’t realized how fooked they are. Gonna ride that pony down, down, down.

    “The prices they are putting on the market today would be essentially the same as before the pandemic,” Yun says. “So the home sellers are very patient. No panic.” (says YUN, chief economist for the liar salepeep’s grifters)

    More than 36 million Americans have filed unemployment claims since mid-March, so a steep decline in sales volumes is no surprise. The bigger mystery surrounds home prices, which tend not to fall rapidly — a trend economists refer to as “stickiness.” (stickiness- still in denial phase)

    Many homeowners opted not to sell at all this spring, rather than trying to show properties during a pandemic and negotiate with bargain-hunting buyers. (We’re not giving these away! We’re going to ride it on down for that reality check) While that pushed down the supply of homes, buyers also are staying on the sidelines. (eating popcorn, watching the show)

    “This kind of historic crash in employment has to have a ripple effect that we haven’t really felt yet,” Weiss says. (ya don’t say?)
    https://www.bankrate.com/real-estate/coronavirus-causes-homesellers-to-drop-list-prices/

  190. 1690
    David says:

    By Jeff @ 1642:

    By softwarengineer @ 1640:

    RE: Jeff @ 1633

    Most American Voters Support ICE

    Abolish ICE as a Democrat campaign agenda and watch Biden disappear even faster down the toilet.

    I don’t remember suggesting abolishing ICE, although it is interesting that David is using that issue to bring politics into his interactions with the justice system. We do need to have some kind of agency or agencies reasonably and fairly enforcing our immigration laws, whether you think it should be ICE or something different.

    If WA State insists on ignoring law and operating in sedition – we all get to live in sedition!

  191. 1691
    Jeff says:

    RE: David @ 1644

    You are quite the vigilante. Mix that with your imagination for gun violence and . . . Wow. Lots of folks say Trump is ignoring the law and operating in sedition on many issues. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t testify if called to by the so called Justice Department.

  192. 1692
  193. 1693
    whatsmyname says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1646 – Amazing; two months in and we have plenty of Covid beer and t-shirts; just not masks or tests.

  194. 1694
    sfrz says:

    RE: whatsmyname @ 1647 – preach.

  195. 1695
    sfrz says:

    Drip, drip, drip… sweat is dripping down their necks. Gotta offload QUICK. I’ll include the towels! That plant! You can have all those bottles of wine! LOOK! The water is running! Just like me…
    Only 8,795 to go! Who wants some popcorn?

    Brand new carpet, all modern furniture included in price.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3217-Eastlake-Ave-E-APT-310-Seattle-WA-98102/63335455_zpid/? $567,500 1bd 2ba 1025 sq.ft.

  196. 1696

    RE: Eastsider @ 1632

    I don’t know what the rules are in Canada. Are people even allowed to go out and view homes? My cousins in Italy are not allowed out except for truly “essential” needs like food and pharmacy.

    Here it’s pretty restrictive. Not hard for a single person but a couple can’t go see a house together and they clearly can’t bring the children along. Each showing is two as the agent has to show it to the husband and then to the wife. That makes it harder for the husband and wife to discuss the house together as they don’t always focus on the same things. So not being in the house at the same time is a bit of a problem for most people.

    Here it is one agent one person. Not sure what it is in Canada. If you effectively close the store can you even comment on the lower sales volume?

    Is it a “story” to say hairdressers haven’t cut any hair this month, as example?

  197. 1697
    Blurtman says:

    RE: sfrz @ 1649

    15% annual price appreciation!!!

    $554/sq.ft.

    $6,000/year HOA.

    What a smoking’ deal!

  198. 1698
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1650 – You just described how stupid WA state has become. The rule requiring name/address/phone number to eat in a restaurant is a death sentence to the establishment. Not allowing couples to view homes together is another dumb idea dreamed up by our health officials. I’m pretty sure the state officials will be surprised by the devastation to the economy in September. But no worry, many of them will join the rank of unemployed by then. It is too late to save the state economy now. One small consolation, we have not turned into Los Angeles, yet.

  199. 1699
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1535

    Hedge Fund CEO Secretly Predicts Ecomonic Collapse —
    https://youtu.be/6Nj2ufd9cCY

  200. 1700
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1652 – I have concluded that one-party rule has done grievous damage to the state. I hope we will vote in the opposition party in state senate and governorship in the next election. The state supreme court makeup also needs to be rebalanced to prevent rouge rulings (e.g. car tab, income tax, citizen initiatives) against state constitution and people’s interests. WA state is lacking checks and balances. Seattle is Exhibit A. Inslee is Exhibit B.

  201. 1701

    Great Opinions Bubbleheads as We “Warp Speed to a Killer Flu Vaccine By August” [Trump’s New Task Force Now], Now Let’s All Take our MAGA Red Hats Off and Biden Tee Shirts; and Non-partisan like gulp MJB and Read the any Website and Fox Business News generated brief today:

    I know there are critics of the Killer Flu response the last 60 days….but I agree with the MO Governor this morning, Vice President Pence and Trump have MOVED MOUNTAINS to effectively get America past the Killer Flu Apex as 48 states are open or poised to open in a week of two now, even NY. Why wouldn’t all Americans warm to that fire glow? The alternative is gloom and despair…why pray for anything that resembles failure?

    Here’s a picture that could appear in 2080 history books, capturing the “Hey days” of life before Killer Flu; before we reset to new safety measures and got the same results without “packing them in” like OVERPOPULATION rats…LOL:

    https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriot.imgix.net%2Ffd039cecd37d4e7afa2c217e3b5941cb9180b90205d9096e389fc9f1479071ae.jpg%3Fw%3D1200&t=1589638924&ymreqid=ea725849-d2d3-3073-1c99-e80005011a00&sig=JzkO7CXsVNTl7OxyWodjNw–~C

    Good News: Inslee is [reluctantly?] opening some parks, we must be the 2 last states left in America to significantly “not open” to date like bars and restaurants on limited capacity. The hair salons have got to open soon. We need Dave screaming in Olympia now? If the schools don’t open by September we’re screwed too.

    https://coronavirus.wa.gov/what-you-need-know/whats-open-and-closed

    The GOP is playing another phase II banjo Killer Flu Bill tune now to compete with the $3T Biden Bill “dueling” give away money banjo. Stimulus money will reward “Made in America” from “Made in China”. Ya get the stimulus money if you move your company back to America from China, it even includes 10% of our old contribution to W.H.O. LOL…the diversity blinded OVERPOPULATION establishment for WTO control shutters in fear…LOL

    I’m reading the 2019 “The Institute” by Stephen King….if you’re in to conspiracy theory and espionage…its a good read… used library copies are like $15, better than $30 new a few months ago…BTW, King supports Biden and hates Trump. But his book is still somewhat non-partisan anyway.

  202. 1702

    She’s Wearing Her Bank Robber Disguise Mask and Wants Her $3T Delivered in Small Bills Please From American Taxpayers’ Debt

    https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/05860c4cf690490c9bd974a5f446b497/800.jpeg

    The dueling banjos get ready for 2020…

  203. 1703

    Dave May Be Old Enough to Remember the 1969 Swine flu Pandemic When Nothing Closed Anyway, Just Happy Hippies Laughing In Close Groups With their Bags of Weed…LOL

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYJUrjNXgAAHUN_?format=jpg&name=medium

  204. 1704
  205. 1705
    ruxpert says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1654

    Yes! We must free ourselves from the DemoRub Trap!

  206. 1706
    Blurtman says:

    One problem is the unqualified public health officials in charge. LA’s Barabara Ferrer is not an infectious disease specialist, not an immunologist, not even an MD, but a PhD in Social Welfare. basically a glorified social worker. But this very white woman is from Puerto Rico, so she is a (fake) minority, affirmative action, etc.

    And then there is this confused fellow, an adolescent psychiatrist, again, a transgender affirmative action pick. Could you tell he is a man? https://www.advocate.com/health/2020/3/30/meet-transgender-doctor-leading-pennsylvanias-covid-19-response

    Is it any wonder old people are dying in nursing homes still?

  207. 1707
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 1658

    I am saying not letting a husband and wife see a house together makes no sense. I didn’t say all the rules were “a joke”. I do think the children should not come inside, but some were always a problem in that regard. :) I do think people should keep their hands in their pockets or clasped behind their backs and only touch things they really need to touch. I did tell my client who is pregnant to stay home and let the husband see it first and if he hates it, don’t bother coming. This before the Stay Home Order went in place.

    I think if the people come in and know they are not going to make an offer they should leave and not continue to stay there touching things once they know it’s not an option for them. If people used common sense, you wouldn’t need so many mandates.

    OR maybe the mls rule that I have to be inside needs to be removed during this time so the husband and wife can see the house together while I stand outside. I thought that would be an option, but no. I have to be inside with each, one at a time.

    The main problem in King County is the people who don’t want things to open are the ones with the highest standards as to masks and touching and the ones that want everything to open are the most lax about any protocols at all. That makes it harder for the people who take it seriously to come out at all.
    I’m sure with all the things Eastside is saying about it not being shut down at all, ever, assumed that people would be overly cautious while out. If people were…we wouldn’t need a Stay Home Order. But they aren’t.

    My friend in Arizona told me they are fully open now. They didn’t phase in from closed to open. Most businesses are implementing their own protocols but nothing is mandatory and the Governor is out and about not masking or social distancing. It’s dividing on Party lines, of course.

  208. 1708
    sfrz says:

    1:24 AM · May 16, 2020
    Dr. Jack Rasmus@drjackrasmus
    “#Defaults Big box retail & Malls may be first default wave, but watch for other junk-bloated commercial property to follow: hotels, resorts, & office bldgs as companies shift to 30-40% of work force to continue working from home. Tech heavy urban centers will lead office decline.”

    Bubbles, bubbles, everywhere. All popping like champagne. Corporate debt, leveraged loans, global housing markets, shale, student loans, US commercial real estate, US restaurants, US healthcare…

  209. 1709
    Kris says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1652 – You know, they aren’t “requiring” people to leave the info with a restaurant. It’s optional, but of course helpful for public health and safety. And besides, have you ever made a reservation? They take your name/phone/email address. What’s the difference?

  210. 1710
    wreckingbull says:

    By sfrz @ 1662:

    Bubbles, bubbles, everywhere. All popping like champagne. Corporate debt, leveraged loans, global housing markets, shale, student loans, US commercial real estate, US restaurants, US healthcare…

    Subprime auto loans. Implosion incoming.

    https://wolfstreet.com/2019/11/13/the-holy-cow-moment-for-subprime-auto-loans/

  211. 1711
    David says:

    By ruxpert @ 1653:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1535

    Hedge Fund CEO Secretly Predicts Ecomonic Collapse —
    https://youtu.be/6Nj2ufd9cCY

    I see your ‘hedge fund manager’ has TOUR dates. Kind of like porn actresses tour strip clubs betwixt acting stints.

    http://www.grahamelwood.com

  212. 1712
    David says:

    By ruxpert @ 1653:

    RE: ruxpert @ 1535

    Hedge Fund CEO Secretly Predicts Ecomonic Collapse —
    https://youtu.be/6Nj2ufd9cCY

    I see your ‘hedge fund manager’ has TOUR dates. Like a traveling stripp-er

  213. 1713
    uwp says:

    I can’t remember if anyone has posted this here yet, but Redfin is publishing housing data with rolling 7 day windows. Seattle has gone from a 50% drop (YOY) in pending sales at the end of March to a 13% drop the last week they’ve updated (5/8). Pretty incredible when you consider the economy and the restrictions.

    https://www.redfin.com/blog/data-center/

  214. 1714
    sfrz says:

    We are becoming Brazil. Stock up. Sobering read from Umair Haque.

    “Coronavirus — or more accurately — the lack of response to it will probably finish off what’s left of the American economy. America will end up a country with permanently lower levels of all the following: employment, income, savings, trust, happiness, assets, and so forth. America was already in the process of becoming something very much like a poor country, with the failed politics of one, too — but Coronavirus will accelerate and finalize America’s grim transformation into poverty, paralysis, and collapse.
    I know that sounds improbable, maybe even absurd, to some. I don’t much like writing in such terms myself. So let me spell out just how and why.
    These shocking, unreal unemployment numbers are like the shockwave of a great tsunami, or the tremors that signal an earthquake spiking off the Richter scale. They’re a beginning, something like a plume of smoke to be followed by a deafening explosion.

    https://eand.co/the-american-economy-is-imploding-and-america-is-too-e998d3cfb1d9

  215. 1715
    OA says:

    RE: sfrz @ 1666

    Crazy how people naturally gravitate towards garbage news and opinions. Just plain nonsense.

  216. 1716
    sfrz says:

    RE: OA @ 1667

    I hope you’re right. I hope Umair is wrong. Dylan Ratigan agrees the analysis.

    Umair has an impressive background. His father is economist, Nadeem Haque.
    “Shortlisted: 2015 Digital Thinking Award, 2011 Thinkers50 Breakthrough Idea Award, 2011 Thinkers50 Future Thinker Award

    Umair Haque is a London-based consultant. He is director of Havas Media Lab, founder of Bubblegeneration and frequent tweeter and contributor to the online Harvard Business Review. Haque’s initial training was in neuroscience. He studied at McGill University in Canada, went on to do an MBA at London Business School and is the author of The New Capitalist Manifesto: Building a Disruptively Better Business (2011).” https://thinkers50.com/biographies/umair-haque/

  217. 1717
    Eastsider says:

    RE: uwp @ 1665 – Optimism in housing is misguided. About 1 in 4 workers have filed for unemployment claims and it is on track to reach 1 in 3 within a month. 9% of mortgages are currently in forbearance and will likely hit mid to high teens. Short sales and foreclosures will flood the market as soon as forbearance ends. Many furloughs, especially in travel and hospitality, will become permanent when PPP fund runs out. Extraordinary measures have merely delayed the inevitable. I see no way out of this mess. Politicians and special (health) interests are worsening this crisis.

  218. 1718

    Grab Your MJB Mug and Read the Replacement brief:

    Hey Dave NYC opened its beaches and bars yesterday and Killer Flu is much worse there than Seattle:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYL4GfoUMAAS4f8?format=png&name=small

    Crowds and packed spacing as the “endless lines” of depressed home zombie crowds seek air….and slurps down MASS drinks at real bars…

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/boeing-737-max-private-jet-124900455.html

    The new development concept 737 MAX seating is great, a ticket to LA on this luxury plane baby is like $20K a seat…LOL…legroom isn’t cheap.

    Good News: My son’s adult family home for severely disabled doesn’t cut its lawn now, lawn care workers are non-essential during Inslee Stay at home Laws [now banned by State DSHS]….its 6 inches high with weeds in the flower beds….the care giver home mangers can pocket the landscaper fees now instead….the home’s care giver manager was smiling with $ signs in his eyes yesterday. He’s getting $600/mo more in Killer Flu costs for my son too. Its all good…LOL…does Ardelle know if home staging includes yard maintenance by hired lawn care folks still? Apparently it is illicit and non-essential….I suppose owners can still mow their own lawn themselves only. BTW, I’m not saying I agree with this law, I’m just trying to understand it. I can still make “Grubhub” type deliveries at the door, that’s essential.

  219. 1719

    RE: Eastsider @ 1669
    Yes Eastsider

    Its dam_ed if ya do and dam_ed if you don’t. Reminds me of Obamacare, the general federal rule doesn’t fit all States; so the Governors’ wear the stay at home law political nooses, not the executive branch. Then if ya do that, the federal government is falsely accused of no leadership?….LOL….its hopeless IMO.

    What’s Killer Flu got to with the 2020 campaign anyway? It originated in Wuhan and spread somehow and is no President’s direct fault, like high cost health care tax deduction elimination for the rich. Some rich folks want the tax deduction and almost all the rest can’t afford it anyway…

  220. 1720
  221. 1721
    David says:

    By sfrz @ 1668:

    RE: OA @ 1667

    I hope you’re right. I hope Umair is wrong. Dylan Ratigan agrees the analysis.

    Umair has an impressive background. His father is economist, Nadeem Haque.
    “Shortlisted: 2015 Digital Thinking Award, 2011 Thinkers50 Breakthrough Idea Award, 2011 Thinkers50 Future Thinker Award

    Umair Haque is a London-based consultant. He is director of Havas Media Lab, founder of Bubblegeneration and frequent tweeter and contributor to the online Harvard Business Review. Haque’s initial training was in neuroscience. He studied at McGill University in Canada, went on to do an MBA at London Business School and is the author of The New Capitalist Manifesto: Building a Disruptively Better Business (2011).” https://thinkers50.com/biographies/umair-haque/

    Umair has a neuroscience degree.

    Umair is writing for some obscure website about politics.

    Umair is ‘anti-Trump’ and anti-Western.

    Umair failed to get a job in the medical fields.

    Umair will begin assembling his explosive vest on what date?

  222. 1722

    The Saturday Seattle Times Brief Never Came, but Here’s the Sunday Brief, it just popped in my email in basket.

    “…Dalgona coffee. Roast chicken over cabbage. Tahdig. “The Pasta.” Focaccia. You’ve likely seen these dishes and treats on your Instagram feed. We tried the recipes to tell you what’s worth making and what’s not. Read more….”

    SWE’s take: The white rice dish is probably the coffee/rice meal…looks like “horrifying” brown gunk on white rice.

    https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.seattletimes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F05%2F05042020_quarantine-food-trends_145938-780×585.jpg&t=1589732654&ymreqid=ea725849-d2d3-3073-1c90-67000001c900&sig=H.85V480CySr53U_XargFg–~C

    The rest of the news was already covered by other sources…

  223. 1723
    sfrz says:

    RE: David @ 1673 – incredibly racist comment. I have dear East Asian friends in Sammamish that are victims of your venom. Not surprising, coming from you. Please. Stay in Florida. You are perfectly suited for that environment. Old, Trumper, racist. It’s God’s waiting room.

    “About Umair Haque
    Umair Haque is one of the world’s leading thinkers. A member of the Thinkers50, the authoritative ranking of the globe’s top management experts, he has published two books through Harvard Business Publishing, where he also authored Harvard Business Review’s top blog for several years, on subjects including economics, leadership, innovation, finance, and careers. Umair has held senior positions in finance and strategy, and holds degrees from McGill University and London Business School.

    A popular media figure, he has over two hundred thousand followers on Twitter, appears on every major global news network, has been published or cited in nearly every major newspaper in the world, publishes at Medium, HBR, and Twitter, and speaks regularly to audiences public and private across the world.

    Umair lives in London and New York, where he enjoys good coffee, old books, and leather jackets. He is always happy to hear from fans and followers in person or via the internet, and you can always feel free to email him or say hi if you seem him in real life.”
    https://www.amazon.com/Umair-Haque/e/B003UQSSZA%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

  224. 1724
    David says:

    RE: sfrz @ 1675

    Thinkers50! LOL.

    Doers do, thinkers think. Umair is a thinker. Think on Umair, think on in your leather jacket sipping your small coffee in London.

    Harvard is becoming discredited. Has been for quite a long time now.

  225. 1725
    Juststoppedby says:

    Been checking in from time to time to see if there is anything to learn here, but unfortunately it seems to be the same ole same ole.

    About 3% interesting, 22% politics/personal insults, and 75% blather (you know who you are).

    In any case, I’ve been thinking about how changing work from home trends will impact real estate markets and commutes, and it looks like the Tim has, as well:

    https://www.redfin.com/blog/wfh-leaving-new-york-san-francisco/

    Some thought provoking stuff (IMO) here for people with an interest in Seattle real estate.

  226. 1726
  227. 1727
    David B. says:

    By sfrz @ 1666:

    We are becoming Brazil. Stock up. Sobering read from Umair Haque.

    “Coronavirus — or more accurately — the lack of response to it will probably finish off what’s left of the American economy. America will end up a country with permanently lower levels of all the following: employment, income, savings, trust, happiness, assets, and so forth. America was already in the process of becoming something very much like a poor country, with the failed politics of one, too — but Coronavirus will accelerate and finalize America’s grim transformation into poverty, paralysis, and collapse.
    I know that sounds improbable, maybe even absurd, to some. I don’t much like writing in such terms myself. So let me spell out just how and why.
    These shocking, unreal unemployment numbers are like the shockwave of a great tsunami, or the tremors that signal an earthquake spiking off the Richter scale. They’re a beginning, something like a plume of smoke to be followed by a deafening explosion.

    https://eand.co/the-american-economy-is-imploding-and-america-is-too-e998d3cfb1d9

    If this comes to pass — and I think there is a better than even chance that it will — it means a new, worldwide Second Great Depression. The world economy is far more globalized and interconnected than it was in 1929, and the USA is a far bigger player in it than Germany was in 1929, and Germany was able to drag the rest of the world down with it in 1929.

  228. 1728
    Blurtman says:

    I believe Azar is saying diversity means obesity. But obesity is not a strength.
    ———-
    CNN host Jake Tapper pressed Azar on why the U.S. has had such a high mortality rate from the virus. The virus has infected more than 1.4 million people in the U.S. and killed 88,761, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The U.S. has the highest number of COVID-19-related deaths, based on the database.

    “Unfortunately, the American population is very diverse, and it is a population with significantly unhealthy comorbidities that do make many individuals in our communities — in particular, African American, minority communities — particularly at risk here because of significant underlying … health disparities and disease comorbidities, and that is an unfortunate legacy in our health care system that we certainly do need to address,” Azar said.

    Azar specifically pointed to hypertension, obesity and diabetes as comorbidities that make the U.S. “at risk for any type of disease burden.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498192-hhs-secretary-points-to-unhealthy-comorbidities-when-asked-about-high

  229. 1729
    ruxpert says:

    Tanzania: how can Goat, Papaya, Pawpaw test positive to Corona? [Morning Call]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn79u2HgcTY

    Tanzanian’s President speech about false corona test
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Tanzanian%E2%80%99s+President+speech+about+false+corona+test+

  230. 1730
    Brianna says:

    RE: Juststoppedby @ 1677

    Thank you for the break from all the blather. 😊

    Here’s another article I found interesting: https://www.thetruthaboutmortgage.com/home-buyer-demand-bounces-back-small-towns-become-hot/

  231. 1731
    Beano says:

    By Eastsider @ 1654:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1652 – I have concluded that one-party rule has done grievous damage to the state. I hope we will vote in the opposition party in state senate and governorship in the next election. The state supreme court makeup also needs to be rebalanced to prevent rouge rulings (e.g. car tab, income tax, citizen initiatives) against state constitution and people’s interests. WA state is lacking checks and balances. Seattle is Exhibit A. Inslee is Exhibit B.

    THIS.

    I’ve lived in 50/50 states and basically RED states and BLUE states. There is no accountability in these states dominated by one party. Such fraud and scamming going on.

    Washington is being ill served by having this collection of clowns with little accountability.

  232. 1732
    Beano says:

    By Juststoppedby @ 1677:

    Been checking in from time to time to see if there is anything to learn here, but unfortunately it seems to be the same ole same ole.

    About 3% interesting, 22% politics/personal insults, and 75% blather (you know who you are).

    In any case, I’ve been thinking about how changing work from home trends will impact real estate markets and commutes, and it looks like the Tim has, as well:

    https://www.redfin.com/blog/wfh-leaving-new-york-san-francisco/

    Some thought provoking stuff (IMO) here for people with an interest in Seattle real estate.

    It’s a huge question for sure.

    Logically, locales that are very expensive and have painful living conditions (tiny and lower quality apartments) will see stagnation or decline.

    I mean, the main argument for living in these expensive towns was *jobs* and the high incomes (never mind low disposable incomes).

    If this is no longer a requirement – then why wouldn’t many people flee SF and head for…. you name it – any place that is cheaper and you can live better and probably on a beach somewhere..

    Seattle isn’t a particularly interesting city. It’s dirtier than average….the surrounding area is beautiful – I would imagine the more natural looking areas will fair much better than the city of Seattle –

    I’m highly confident tech jobs will now all require work from home as a perk – that’s baked into all of the good jobs now. Game changing.

  233. 1733
    Beano says:

    By Eastsider @ 1669:

    RE: uwp @ 1665 – Optimism in housing is misguided. About 1 in 4 workers have filed for unemployment claims and it is on track to reach 1 in 3 within a month. 9% of mortgages are currently in forbearance and will likely hit mid to high teens. Short sales and foreclosures will flood the market as soon as forbearance ends. Many furloughs, especially in travel and hospitality, will become permanent when PPP fund runs out. Extraordinary measures have merely delayed the inevitable. I see no way out of this mess. Politicians and special (health) interests are worsening this crisis.

    Profoundly sad.

    Two weeks or 15 days to flatten the curve was something we could bounce back from. But 2-4 months of shut down is absolutely devastating. Bankruptcy is certain for many. We just made the worst policy decisions in history.

  234. 1734
    sfrz says:

    RE: <

  235. 1735
    sfrz says:

    Look at this bunch of mini empire builders. Their ship has sailed. They gambled at the housing casino. Wow. I bet they have financed everything. Dayum. That is gonna leave a mark.
    https://www.seattlevacationhome.com/
    Trying to get these rented out quickly. Here’s one.
    https://hotpads.com/1882-24th-ave-e-seattle-wa-98112-1n4jkws/pad?border=false&furnished=true&lat=47.6311&lon=-122.3364&z=14
    “WHO WE ARE/HOW WE WORK:This home is offered by Seattle Vacation Home, for rental ranging from 1 to 12 months, either furnished or unfurnished. Rent is determined based on the start and end dates of your lease. The rent displayed in this listing is the “last minute” pricing for the next 30 days. Utilities will be priced into leases under 6 months, and will be paid based on actual usage for leases 6 months and longer. “

  236. 1736
    wreckingbull says:

    RE: Juststoppedby @ 1677 – Good to see you back. I think we are going to see a shift to rural living becoming very favorable. I have now lived rural areas and telecommuted for about 10 years. It has allowed me to live with a much higher quality of life without a reduction in pay. So much that I was able to semi-retire in my early 40s. I actually hope others discover this secret.

  237. 1737

    RE: David @ 1627

    Seattle Times Brief arrived but this Morning’s FOX Business News shows stocks at about DOW 25000-26000, up about 800 points today as an American company shows success [Trump Care money well spent?] on preliminary Killer Flu “WH Warp Speed Task Force”vaccine discovery….still awaiting a FDA 45 day test for accuracy and effectiveness proof from test humans….but hey, maybe by late June or early July now? Time for Dave to buy back in to equities as it heads back to DOW 30000 again soon at a real theater near you?

    Its all good. They also reported on the morning FOX news that a good percentage of Bernie supporters aren’t enthusiastic about Biden at all, even with Sanders endorsing Biden last week. Historically, 10% of Sanders’ Supporters voted Trump in 2016. The swing state polls seem to favor Biden over Trump by a couple three points [margin of error], but the actual election results after these bogus polls in 2016 showed a more than 10 point difference in Hillary favor and she lost anyway. The polls are cracked crystal balls IMO per actual results. The Biden poll participants will poll but too lazy to actually vote? While Trump supporters will vote but don’t have time for cracked crystal ball polls? I’m the “re-opening” task force representative for GOP King County and do send my single King County poll in ASAP to give the Trump campaign base supporter “reliable” actuals. The GOP polls come in weekly now, with a 3 day suspense completion.

    To cut it short, Killer Flu never was a good political agenda to delay re-opening America ASAP to “allegedly” and falsely blame Trump callously for a pandemic out of Wuhan…..its a great way to drive Biden supporters to Trump IMO. Obama’s harsh remarks against Killer Flu leadership progress to date last week by Trump is ignorant too, and puts “actual” swift Trump Killer Flu Action [warp speed vaccine discovery] a moot point. Not a positive “can do” approach to life and destroys our economy too. Where’s the hope? Where’s the beef?

    “… King County’s new directive on face coverings goes into effect today, and so does Sea-Tac Airport’s requirement that passengers wear them. (Many people don’t do this correctly — here’s a guide to wearing your mask properly.) This comes after coronavirus deaths topped 1,000 in our state over the weekend. Find today’s live updates here…”

    SWE’s Take: Another Inslee death blow to the airlines and Boeing? My gosh, I for one would never ride in an airplane sharing “flu contaminated” air with all the passengers with that ceiling blower…expecting a cloth mask or poorly made paper mask [not a N95] to filter the flu germs any better than no mask at all, when I know it leaks germs in like a siff. How do you sneeze with one of those subpar masks on anyway, without taking it off to sneeze into the aircraft air blower “shared air”??? The Tooth Fairy?

    “… Washington state relied heavily on a Chinese firm for coronavirus supplies, ordering $227.5 million worth of masks and other gear. So where is it? Mostly not available yet. Read the Times Watchdog story.
    The pandemic is creating a paradise for scammers. Keep them from stealing your identity and money, and know what to do if your name is used by unemployment fraudsters. Washington state officials are dealing with a flood of bogus unemployment claims — and with a U.S. attorney who got their hackles up by commenting on the state’s “vulnerabilities” to fraud. ..”

    SWE’s Take: I ordered a thermometer from China last February, it finally came 6 weeks later smashed [stepped on?] with no instructions and a cracked case. It sat in their Chinese post office 5 weeks undelivered with Wuhans laughing at me. The thermometer works, I was 37 degrees celcius. Its priceless too, its not made in America and unavailable.

    “… COVID-19 patients were dying during every round Dr. Edward Rippe made. The needs were so dire that he took just eight days off to fight his own bout with the virus. Rippe and other doctors from the Seattle area who helped treat patients in New York are describing “hell” in the coronavirus hotspot…”

    SWE’s Take: Rippe sounds like Fauci, keep everything closed another year and blame it on Trump. BTW, NYC is opening beaches and bars this weekend. Dave smiles.

    “… Specialty’s Café & Bakery will close permanently because of the pandemic’s economic fallout. The chain has locations in Seattle and Bellevue. We took a look at whether delivery is working for other local restaurants. And forlorn foodies may find a bit of solace in one familiar sight: Tom Douglas grilling Copper River salmon…”

    SWE’s Take: Restaurants are too numerous and competitive in Seattle, they were going out of business years before Killer Flu. MACA, Make America Cook Again….let’s get our 737 aerospace manufacturing engineering back to Seattle from the Asians and use excess “American citizen” restaurant workers with triple pay as Boeing manufacturing paid interns now. Let Japan eat cake.

    “… Travelers don’t have adequate protection from coronavirus, writes Washington Sen. Maria Cantwell, who’s pushing for “clear, uniform” national guidelines at airports and on planes. Here’s what to expect now when you travel…”

    SWE’s Take: Just require useless subpar masks not to N95 quality, and pretend its fixed…LOL

    “… Homeowners who can’t make mortgage payments have a new deferral option…”

    SWE’s Take: Its called a rope “noose” around your neck and jump from a chair…

    “…The fishing boat St. Jude scored tons and tons of high-quality tuna — and returned to find a Puget Sound area with no restaurant dining rooms. So they’re selling it directly to the public, with a side of cooking tips. Crew member Eseroma Lebaleba emerges from the freezer below deck Saturday after bringing up tuna at Fishermen’s Terminal. (Photo: Alan Berner / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s take: The Seattle fish shop workers weren’t obeying safe distance laws and half didn’t bother with subpar “airport” masks anyway, see picture:

    http://click.email.seattletimes.com/?qs=dc6056260471ecfce8106744ba4d537c1697f703eeacef076bb2ef4b813f0ba97086ab25204545c2392b455021c4a7c5cc0e599792b3e991

    Check out the big African American guy breathing on the fish, with gloves strewn on the table and knives and tongs laying around on a flu contaminated table with your delicious fish…LOL

    “…The West Seattle Bridge is headed for a partial collapse unless it’s shored up quickly, according to a new report. The risk that a partial collapse could trigger a full one helps explain why the city must race against time to temporarily support the mainspan…”

    SWE’s Take: Its hopeless.

    “…Start your engines. NASCAR roared back to life yesterday with a race like no other. In Seattle, a powerful photo essay captures what a city without sports looks like…”

    SWE’s take: I stopped watching NASCAR decades ago when Dodge hell cats were banned and Toyota used that “cheater” American Dodge/Ford engineered engine to compete. Kick Toyota out of NASCAR.

    Good News: Dave can dine in soon for his Wendy burger.

  238. 1738
    sfrz says:

    RE: Juststoppedby @ 1677 – Why pay those ridiculous rents for a tight airbox the size of a closet? I feel we are going to see a paradigm shift with the WFH concept. Negotiate your salary with the remote WFH tradeoff, in a more habitable and affordable environment. More from San Fran.

    “But as a result of the past week’s WFH fervor, the more opportunistic residents of Silicon Valley are beginning to think about the arbitrage opportunities. It is not a particularly complicated scheme to work out. You take your mid-six-figure Bay Area salary and your laptop. You decamp with your family to the countryside, or the mountains, or the beach. Maybe you simply ride out the hard times there, maybe you stay forever. Already in my weekend and off-hand Zoom calls, friends are plotting cross-country moves — maybe just for a few months, maybe longer. Multiply their experiences by several thousand, and this time Silicon Valley really might find itself changed forever.”
    https://www.theverge.com/interface/2020/5/15/21258793/bay-area-exodus-silicon-valley-san-francisco-facebook-google-apple-twitter-housing

  239. 1739
  240. 1740
    N says:

    Interesting market to watch at the moment. I’ve noticed multiple properties do price reductions after a week on market the past few days – the one today had only been on the market 5 days. Seems like the market may be shifting or worse. Looking at the daily inventory running total, compared to the weekend high two weeks ago to the following Monday, about half inventory came off compared to what happened two weeks ago – meaning lots less pending. Super small sample size but it just feels different.

  241. 1741
    Eastsider says:

    RE: N @ 1692 – Expect a lot of ‘volatility’ in the short term due to the easing of lockdown. I would not read too much into early ‘optimism’ in recent Redfin blogs. For those who have short memory, Redfin slashed 41% of its field agents just a month ago. Inventory will increase once mortgage forbearance period ends. Study the market following the last housing crash. For now, I would build up cash reserve.

  242. 1742
    Justsomedude12 says:

    RE: sfrz @ 1690 – People have been predicting exodus from cities off and on for the last hundred years. I think a couple years from now we’ll either have a vaccine or enough people will have contracted the disease to achieve herd immunity. Covid-19 will be another blip in history, and the people that enjoy living in cities will still live in cities for the same reasons they always have.

  243. 1743
    Nicole says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1650
    I’ve been looking and really surprised that nearly every agent seems to be violating those rules! I was looking at a popular home, and while i was waiting my turn I noticed that every agent that came in brought at least 2 people, some more!

  244. 1744
    wreckingbull says:

    By Justsomedude12 @ 1694:

    RE: sfrz @ 1690 – People have been predicting exodus from cities off and on for the last hundred years. I think a couple years from now we’ll either have a vaccine or enough people will have contracted the disease to achieve herd immunity. Covid-19 will be another blip in history, and the people that enjoy living in cities will still live in cities for the same reasons they always have.

    Exodus? Won’t happen. What is already occurring is people getting sick of crime, human feces and urine on the sidewalks, zombie encampments, traffic, and ridiculous housing costs.

    Now that telecommuting is becoming more broadly accepted, many are already discovering that a higher quality of life can be had outside of the city while maintaining income levels. This leaves more money available for other pursuits such as retirement savings, travel, hobbies, whatever.

  245. 1745

    Hey Great Opinions All, Swing Your Chair and Grab Your Tues MJB Mug, read the brief:

    “….The state has sued two Western Washington gyms, accusing them of endangering lives by staying open during the shutdown. Find today’s live updates here.
    Dentists and doctors can reopen immediately if they meet the new safety guidelines Gov. Jay Inslee laid out yesterday. This is making some workers awfully nervous, though. Here’s what to expect if you visit a dentist. Hair and nail salons may not be far behind, and Seattle Sketcher captured how one barbershop is getting ready for a new era…”

    SWE’s Take: Stay at home law is meant to save lives, about 100,000 dead in America from Killer Flu wipes the smiles off anyone and most folks support the stay at home laws anyway. Democrat or Republican. I don’t agree with all the non-essential designations but want to know the rule of law requirements anyway and obey them too. Yes, it irritates me when I see Glenbrook HOA officers flaunting the law, sharing houses, doing paid contact work at houses, arms around each other in groups and doing this to irritate those that support rule of law….they even encourage weekly landscapers as non-essential law breaking exceptions…write fines for not using non-essential landscapers and opened a community center for close contact and a non-essential food pantry with close touching contact. My neighbor has a stuffed up nose [Killer Flu?] with a family of six and there’s more at my HOA in their 70s and 80s limping around sickly on walkers with low immune response to killer flu. I asked a group of four landscaper truck groups at Glenbrook why they were special and essential over like other laid off workers, they flashed their gold rings at me from their shiny new $80K Tundra gas hogs and glared at me….LOL…deviant greedy gangsters in my book. The Kent Police need to untangle this HOA mess before someone dies? Meanwhile my son’s disabled home has like 8 inch lawn and ban landscapers as non-essential. Who’s right, the Tooth Fairy?

    “…President Donald Trump says he’s taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to protect against the coronavirus, despite government warnings about potentially fatal side effects. Here’s what to know about it. ..”

    SWE’s Take: The chlorine disinfectant drug is FDA approved already for Killer Flu prescription. Its fake news.

    Good News: I’m checking out the local Dodge Dealer for routine maintenance today on my 2014 Charger…boy am I glad I didn’t wast MASS money on the clown extended warranty…LOL…I’ll let ya know how Killer Flu affected the waiting room.

    Good News:

  246. 1746
    Lulu says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1693
    If you still have a job then.

  247. 1747
    N says:

    Quality of life and urban vs Rural can be subjective. What one person thinks as a high quality of life because they enjoy the lifestyle the next person may find less than desirable. Certainly if income/job is the barrier to where you want to live and WFH becomes an option it can be a win win.

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    RE: Nicole @ 1695RE: Nicole @ 1695

    Were any of the homes with too many people in them occupied homes? I showed a popular and vacant house yesterday and I personally opened anything that needed to be opened while my clients touched nothing so I could wipe down things I touched without having to track what they touched. They came in separately. I think maybe the agent before me and one after me did not do one person at a time. I was too busy minding my own business at hand to take careful notice. :)

    I have Lysol wipes near the shoe covers in my listing and I go once a week and wash down all door knobs, door handles, keybox and anything people would likely touch. Any agent showing can use the wipes there to do the same after or before a showing.

    I did notice with really popular houses that the time constraints, because of multiple showings, make it harder to do one person at a time. You have to be pretty regimented. Do the inside, twice, once with each person, rather quickly without talking about the outside at all while inside. I had a 4:30 slot and most were reserving a 30 minute time frame. The 4 to 4:30 people left early, which helped as I could view the house thoroughly before my clients arrived. Then the 5 to 5:30 agent didn’t show up at all, so I had plenty of time before the 5:45 agent showed up.

    With these carefully staggered appointments on popular houses you not only have to show it twice but you have to get in and out during that pre-scheduled time frame unless you get lucky and the person before you leaves early and the person after you doesn’t show up at all. I got lucky. :)

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    RE: Justsomedude12 @ 1694

    Someone asked me yesterday about Marysville or Lake Stevens and I answered everyone thinks that’s a good idea when gas prices are low. Pretend gas prices are over $4.00 a gallon. You still want to live there? If yes… Last time people were flocking to cheaper house prices they freaked out when gas prices went up.

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    sfrz says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1701 – Tech workers could easily live remotely and travel in 1x, 2x per week/month from multiple areas. It’s a trade off many are seriously considering.

    “Technology workers have always been a bit spoiled when it comes to working from home. In a Wall Street Journal|SurveyMonkey poll conducted just days earlier, companies like Facebook sent their workers home but well before the first cities and states began mandatory shelter-in-place policies, 62% of workers in the technology industry called it “very possible” for them to work from home — easily the highest of any industry.

    In the new CNBC|SurveyMonkey results, 83% of tech workers say they’ve been able to work from home in recent weeks, and many want their new routines to stick. More than a quarter (27%) say they’ll want to work from home all the time from now on, and 36% say they’ll want to work from home more often than they used to. Just 5% say they’ll want to work from home less often than they had previously, and a mere 2% never want to work from home again.”
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/how-silicon-valley-work-from-home-forever-will-hit-every-worker.html

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