About The Tim

Tim Ellis is the founder of Seattle Bubble. His background in engineering and computer / internet technology, a fondness of data-based analysis of problems, and an addiction to spreadsheets all influence his perspective on the Seattle-area real estate market. Tim also hosts the weekly improv comedy sci-fi podcast Dispatches from the Multiverse.

3,031 comments:

  1. 2001
    Jeff says:

    RE: David @ 1943

    Veggies are a major key to my heart. Thanks for noticing! I’m learning to love you more and more all the time Moo Moo Moo.

  2. 2002
    David says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1944 – Here are some of your rioting supporters. They killed the puppy.

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1268284047614074880

    Defund the PoPo

  3. 2003
    Jeff says:

    RE: David @ 1945

    Honestly Triple Moo, now that I have a new image of you based on Aredell’s description burned into my brain, it’s pretty much impossible to be the least bit offended by any words or images you could conjure up here on Bubbles, not that I was particularly offended previously. At this point, your antics are just much more endearing to me, as I have much more sympathy for your situation, and am glad you are having a ball here.

  4. 2004
    Jeff says:

    RE: David @ 1945

    To be clear, I’m not not taking you seriously because you may in fact be an obese chain smoking woman, as I’m sure one of them could find a way to get under my skin too. It’s more that you would seem to think you have to take on the persona of some blowhard tough guy lawyer dude to get anyone to take you seriously, which is just kinda sad.

    If you would like to take your trolling to the next level, I humbly suggest you reform your Bubbles persona to reflect your true self. Then you might reach that exalted goal of actually offending or embarrassing little ol woke Jeff, although as you may have noticed, it won’t be easy. Just a suggestion from one goofy Bubble troll to another.

  5. 2005
    David says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1947 – Ardell got me:

    1) I’m big in Japan
    2) I fry chicken in bed
    3) Your wife sent me her coupon code from Lane Bryant

  6. 2006
    DavidE says:

    This really nice house went for 185k below asking (best land on Cedar River). Ouch!
    Sold for $995,000 on 5/8/2020. $185,000 below list price.
    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Renton/16841-SE-Jones-Rd-98058/home/423400

    It seems that some homes being sold after the lockdown are really hurting. The ones that went under contract before the lockdown were sold at asking.
    I am seeing so many homes just sitting on the market (Portland and Vancouver included). Not sure where all these reports of “sold in 2 days with multiple offers” are coming from.

  7. 2007
    Jeff says:

    RE: David @ 1948

    I didn’t know what Lane Bryant was till you suggested it, so I went to check out their website. I do appreciate sexy fat bottomed girls, and Lane Bryant has some particularly hot ones on their homepage at the moment, thanks for sharing that. If all you really wear are moo moos, then doing some shopping on Lane Bryant would probably do your wardrobe some good.

  8. 2008
    David says:

    I cannot think of a better way to get lower in-town Seattle prices than to have a lot of neighborhoods rioted, looted and burned.

    Here’s some motivation for it via Obama’s own words:

    1) “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
    2) [Anger is] “going to express itself [through Occupy Wallstreet rioting] politically in 2012 and beyond until people feel like, once again, they’re getting back to some old-fashioned values.”
    3) Obama promoting the false narratives that the following were not justified:
    a) Rodney King
    b) Trayvon Martin
    c) Michael Brown
    4) Embracing the Baltimore riots & looting
    5) Embracing the Ferguson riots and looting.
    6) ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies, and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us’
    7) “The spread of vibrant social diversity is constricting the GOP’s ability to champion conservative causes, such as smaller government and independent families”

    Most of 1% live in downtown Seattles. Get busy.

    Then I’m sneakin’ in and buying something close to Lake Union or Madison!

  9. 2009
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1950 – I actually gave a Lane Bryant gift certificate to my tall, blonde, slim significant other quite a while back. I was totally unaware of the chain’s target market. Needless to say, she was far from amused.

  10. 2010

    Hey, the $5.58 27 OZ MJB Was Killer Flu Sucked Dry, Like Toilet Paper Yesterday…I Got Yuban for like $6.50 a Can, but 15% More in the Can…Well, Tip Your Yuban Mugs Again and read the brief:

    BTW, the cheap 80% fat burger is $3.38/lb at WINCO. The tough cuts of steaks and roasts are like $8/lb+

    The crowd was thin at WINCO at 3 PM yesterday…the folks seemed more happy yesterday with DOW 27000 and 2.5M jobs added in May….time to sweep up the broken glass, restock the looted shelves and get back to business….IMO, they’ll leave the plywood windows up a week or two more, even with unbroken glass behind the plywood….I hear leisure and travel are hiring 1.2M workers alone now. Mitzels next to Ramada Inn in Kent is for sale yesterday, I imagine its not alone. Looting business insurance claims went through the roof I hear, and I imagine there will be long investigations before insurance pay outs. I was loading my groceries in my red Charger and a Milenial lady approached me with smiles and conversation too…its all good.

    “… Why health officials support Seattle protests but Black Lives Matter calls them ‘too dangerous’
    Not long ago, it would have been the stuff of public health professionals’ nightmares: thousands of people clustered together, chanting, amid a pandemic. But even though protests like this one in Seattle violate social-distancing guidelines, infectious disease experts are calling them vital. The local branch of Black Lives Matter is being far more cautious. Meanwhile, the CDC’s director says protesters should highly consider getting tested for COVID-19. (Photo: Dean Rutz / The Seattle Times)..”

    SWE’s Take: The Killer Flu Vaccine should be MASS produced this Fall and Winter, but isolation and quarantine is recommended if you protested in the MASSES says BLM. CDC is always horrified lately…LOL…

    “… Washington’s unemployment fraud may have hit $650 million. Tens of thousands of people are still waiting for benefits as the state reels from this. Those workers face a tough road: The Seattle area lags much of the nation for new job openings, our daily Coronavirus Economy chart shows. The latest U.S. job numbers out today are surprisingly positive — although many jobs lost to the virus aren’t coming back…”

    SWE’s Take: Hey Blurtman, the unemployment fraud in Wash St is MUCH WORSE now and has hit about $1B now??? The fun goes on and on. We need a state income tax to pay for the organized crime theft now? LOL

    “…The first automobile is driven across the Lake Washington Floating Bridge in 1940. The span is part of Highway 10, later renamed Interstate 90. The technology used to create the bridge is highly innovative at the time, with floats on hollow concrete pontoons. The bridge takes 18 months to build, with 3,000 workers. In 1967, it is renamed the Lacey V. Murrow Memorial Bridge, and Nov. 25, 1990, the bridge sinks after a week of high winds and rain…”

    SWE’s take: It sank in 1990 and still used today…the infrastructure in Seattle is ancient and sucks.

    Good News: Erik’s Smiling, here’s the MOM Investor Report for May 2020:

    May 0.06% 0.46% 4.76% 8.79% 4.50%
    YTD 0.53% 5.42% (5.03%) (9.47%) (14.04%)
    Last 12 mo 1.67% 9.33% 12.74% 3.56% (2.52%)

    Long-term CDs, Long-term Bonds, US Stocks, Foreign stocks, foreign stocks

    The stock market scored about 13% gain YTD now, it was back in 27000 DOW territory now. I told you to buy stock a month ago and only David listened…LOL…he’s the only Tooth Fairy with the gold tooth now? LOL..I’d be gambling like that if I wasn’t retired. Vegas opened yesterday too…LOL…its all good this Friday. Enjoy your weekend of “???” Phase of Killer Flu restrictions, they apparently ended when the “JAMMED” Floyd peaceful demonstration fogged up the Inslee rules on safe distancing..LOL

  11. 2011

    Its a “V” Shaped Killer Flu Recession and its Comin’ To an End Too, Erik Smiles:

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/summer-is-going-to-be-a-good-period-for-the-housing-market-economist-184938968.html

    Time to find a better paying job and shoot for the moon now? LOL…it changes everyday, never be a “pig-head” now, or you’ll eat crow…LOL

  12. 2012
    Erik says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1952
    She sounds hot! Nice score.

  13. 2013
  14. 2014
    Jeff says:

    RE: Erik @ 1955

    It amazes me you can evaluate a “hot, nice score” based on just the three attributes of being tall, blonde and slim. Don’t you at least want to know what her face looks like before giving Blurtman a high five? What if Blurtman’s girlfriend had a face like his profile’s?

    If tall, blonde and slim is all it takes to satisfy you, you must be an easy score. My wife falls into two of your evaluative categories, but fortunately for me, she has many others that score way higher.

    I hope you don’t take this jest too seriously, as I hope we can still be buds.

  15. 2015
    Jeff says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1952

    I can’t help but think your profile pick reminds me of Kellyanne Conway. Also tall blonde, slim, and kinda skeletal.

  16. 2016
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1958 – Ha ha! No, she was Dutch and not too thin. 5′ 10″, long legs. Face was fine. Had a better career going on than I did at the time. I was dabbling in surreptitious farming and my bank account was frequently flying on fumes only. Deadhead. Perhaps you know the type. Conway is an Italian American, I believe.

  17. 2017
    Blurtman says:

    Yet another racist goes off on George Floyd. He held a gun to a pregnant women’s belly during a robbery attempt!? He was high when last arrested, and a baggie of white powder fell out of his pocket at the time!? None of this can possibly be true as it was never reported on CNN.

    Wait for it….

    Yes, certainly, that doesn’t justify what happened to him. But he was no role model nor hero.

    https://youtu.be/JtPfoEvNJ74

  18. 2018
    Justsomedude12 says:

    Really? So are we all just going to ignore the fact that softwarengineer is back to drinking Yuban again?!

  19. 2019

    Breaking News. King County Modified Phase 1 (Pierce and Snohomish moved to 2)

    King County:

    A husband and wife can now see a house together. Don’t bring family and friends or children though. One agent plus 2 people vs 1 person.

    Real Estate Signs can be installed which probably means 811 DIG is back. Not positive about that but that there was no 811 DIG available was supposedly the reason for no sign installations until now.

    This is my understanding. More news may come out in the next several hours.

  20. 2020
    sfrz says:

    RE: Justsomedude12 @ 1961 – I just spit my Yuban. Stawp!

  21. 2021
    ARDELL says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1950

    Technically Lane Bryant doesn’t sell muumuu dresses. But here’s one from Amazon that you can use to complete your mental picture of David with to burn it into your brain a bit further. Just picture him in this one in a size 3X which is the largest you can get this one in.

    Happy Nightmares. :)

    https://www.amazon.com/RJC-Womens-Yellow-Plumeria-Muumuu/dp/B0061DQRO8/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=muumuus&qid=1591389392&sr=8-7

  22. 2022
    Jeff says:

    RE: ARDELL @ 1964RE: ARDELL @ 1964

    Thanks for that Ardell, and also thank you for generally staying focused on the topic at hand which is ostensibly Seattle real estate. Since there isn’t much news in that area, the other jolly trolls and myself have been taking up the spare space, but eventually, I think we’ll have more relevant real estate stuff to discuss.

    I predict that in a few months as we get closer to the end of forbearance we could start to transition from idol debauchery to legitimate discussions.

    In the meantime, I suspended my Zuckerborg account over a month ago and Bubbles has been a fantastic substitute for similarly ridiculous inflammatory interactions. I’m trying to turn it around toward lighthearted, less divisive fun, but also looking forward to the on topic discussions eventually.

    Thanks for joining in the silliness of it all! Nothing really matters . . .

  23. 2023
    TK says:

    Serious question. When will really start seeing some declines in these prices?

    I’m thinking around late August 2020.

  24. 2024
    David says:

    By Jeff @ 1957:

    RE: Erik @ 1955

    It amazes me you can evaluate a “hot, nice score” based on just the three attributes of being tall, blonde and slim. Don’t you at least want to know what her face looks like before giving Blurtman a high five? What if Blurtman’s girlfriend had a face like his profile’s?

    If tall, blonde and slim is all it takes to satisfy you, you must be an easy score. My wife falls into two of your evaluative categories, but fortunately for me, she has many others that score way higher.

    I hope you don’t take this jest too seriously, as I hope we can still be buds.

    Q: What do you call a hot chick in Seattle?
    A: A Californian.

  25. 2025
    David says:

    By ARDELL @ 1964:

    RE: Jeff @ 1950

    Technically Lane Bryant doesn’t sell muumuu dresses. But here’s one from Amazon that you can use to complete your mental picture of David with to burn it into your brain a bit further. Just picture him in this one in a size 3X which is the largest you can get this one in.

    Happy Nightmares. :)

    https://www.amazon.com/RJC-Womens-Yellow-Plumeria-Muumuu/dp/B0061DQRO8/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=muumuus&qid=1591389392&sr=8-7

    That’s a Philodendron Monstera and Plumeria Flower print dress!! My favorite. It hugs my fluffiness.

  26. 2026
    David says:

    By Blurtman @ 1960:

    Yet another racist goes off on George Floyd. He held a gun to a pregnant women’s belly during a robbery attempt!? He was high when last arrested, and a baggie of white powder fell out of his pocket at the time!? None of this can possibly be true as it was never reported on CNN.

    Wait for it….

    Yes, certainly, that doesn’t justify what happened to him. But he was no role model nor hero.

    https://youtu.be/JtPfoEvNJ74

    George Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman’s belly. In Georgia: life sentence.

    Going to be very interesting if the cop is found flat-out not guilty. That many illegal drugs in his system would create an unexpected response to normal restraint. It can also allow someone to have a sudden amount of unexpected strength.

    But 9 minutes with a knee on someone’s neck (handcuffed) without noticing the guy was in distress is a big question.

    Still, illegal drugs are illegal because they cause damage. He could be found not guilty.

  27. 2027
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: David @ 1967

    In my size it’s only $34 and in yours it’s $63. That doesn’t seem fair. Well…there is all that extra fabric, but still.

  28. 2028
    David says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1969 – Sometimes men ask me what’s under that dress. I tell them: ‘The World baby, wrapped in a sail.’

    Then I puff my Virginia Slim and gently blow smoke in a come hither way.

    Usually, they vomit.

  29. 2029
    Cap”n says:

    I’ve seen multiple SFH list aggressively low, become a “hot home” on Redfin, and then significantly increase the asking price. I feel like I’ve seen it more in the last few weeks than I’ve seen it in the last 6 months. I don’t get it. If you price low to get a bidding war, why not just take the highest and leave the asking price the same? Appraisal implications?

  30. 2030
    Erik says:

    RE: David @ 1966
    Hahaha!

  31. 2031
    Erik says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1957
    I like blurtman and I wanted to make him smile, so I told him his wife is hot. I give 2 sh!ts what his wife looks like. Why would I care? If he’s happy, I’m happy.

  32. 2032
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Erik @ 1973 – Hi Erik, I am also from a pretty poor background, and so I cheer your efforts to make a better life for your family and yourself. With hard work, smart work, perseverance, frugality and luck, you can do it. Enjoy the journey!

  33. 2033
    armk says:

    RE: DavidE @ 1949

    Here’s an example from the areas I’m looking at

    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Kirkland/7328-121st-Ln-NE-98033/home/516426

  34. 2034

    The More Wealth ya Got to put in a “forced” community property agreement [spouse or significant other] the more of that $700K Seattle home and rare retirements aren’t “Really All Your’s”….ask a Divorce Judge in the State of Wash [married or single with live in friend], Now grab that mug, stay single if ya can [or find an isolation bunk buddy], and guzzle Yuban and read the brief:

    “…As Washington’s counties progress through Gov. Jay Inslee’s plan to reopen the state, here’s an interactive map that tracks the counties’ progress through the various phases in real time, and tells you what activities you’re allowed to do in each phase. Read more…”

    SWE’s Take: Yeah and curfew laws didn’t apply to protesters, COSTCO can take their mandatory bank robber scarves [useless masks] requirement off the books, restaurants and Disneyland can thrive with a 31% attendance Summer estimate and their plate/ticket prices will go down….LOL…and David picks his favorite Moo Moo color, pink…

    Good News: Average Rent is Only About 50% of a $100K/Yr Net income if marriage tax bracket creep applies:

    Average Rent in Seattle, WA
    Last updated February 2020
    Average Rent Y-o-Y Change Average Apartment Size
    $2,169 6% 693 sq. ft.

    This rent would suck 100% of an average Joe Seattle area $20/hr per capita net pay dry [none left for car or food]. My gosh, 693 square feet, plenty of room for the home school and 2-3 kids…LOL…after all its FAR worse in Hong Kong or China…LOL…no wonder they’re smashing windows and torching cars in Seattle…LOL

  35. 2035
    Jeff says:

    RE: Erik @ 1973

    I also like Blurtman, and it seems like our latest jesting has caused him to smile. I like you too because you seem to present yourself as who you really are, and generally I think you are a good person, if perhaps a little naive and overly focused on money. But hey, I’m not afraid to admit that I suffer from nativity in many areas, and I’m as good at losing money as I am at making it. The hard thing is that being naive about something makes it inherently hard to recognize until we learn through the school of hard knocks, or listen to just the right random trolls on Seattle Bubble. But picking trolls is like picking penny stocks on Robinhood. Very risky.

    BTW, when I recommended Bitcoin as a small part of a defensive portfolio, I want to emphasize that it should be really small at this point. Like 5% or less. Cash and gold are the best way to go overall. I think you may have some good opportunities to sell some of your condos this summer if you’re so inclined. It may be the last good such opportunity in a while.

    Like I mentioned previously, I think things will get really interesting when we get close to or just beyond the forbearance window running out early this fall. Did you know that when folks reach the end of forbearance that they will have to pay back all the missed payments at once as currently structured? If someone is in enough financial distress to go into forbearance, does such a payment “plan” seem feasible? According to Google, about 8% of mortgages are currently in forbearance, and about the same number are simply delinquent, although the data on delinquencies is lagging a bit.

    Good luck out there!

  36. 2036
    Erik says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1977
    Here are the forbearance rules for Freddie/Fannie and FHA loans:

    “ Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac loans:
    -Borrowers allowed to repay past due amount within 12 months after forbearance ends;
    -Extend the term of the mortgage by the exact number of months in forbearance;
    -Add past due amounts into loan balance and extend the term of the loan by the number of months necessary to make the monthly payment the same as the previous payment;
    -Add past due amounts into loan balance and extend term of loan for 40 years (480 months).

    FHA loans:
    -Borrowers may enter into a repayment plan to repay past due amounts within 6 months after forbearance ends;
    -Extend term of mortgage to 30 years (360 months) by adding the past due amounts into the previous monthly payment;
    -Past due amounts paid off at the end of the loan in a lump sum.”

    Savvy investors with negative cash flow can go into forbearance on Fannie/Freddie loans and get a 40 year loan to make properties cash flow positive by extending the loan term. I don’t know yet if borrowers can get a super low rate yet with it. If anyone has any additional information on this, please let me know.

    Trump gave landlords a big boost from the Covid pandemic. Landlords can save one year of rent and then they get more positive cash flow in the end. Trump is helping out capitalists and driving up prices for people that work for money.

  37. 2037
    Jeff says:

    RE: Erik @ 1978

    Thanks for the clarifications, as I was unaware of these nuances to forbearance. Do you know the percentage of forbearances that don’t fall into the Fannie/Freddie/FHA categories? I did a very rough check and it seems like it may be in the range of 60%, but I really couldn’t say with confidence. I appreciate your bringing me this to check out.

    I understand how folks could speculate that Trump would be good for their financial strategies, but at this point, would it be wise to plan your investments on the assumption he is going to win? I’m not asking this as someone who would prefer him out of office, which I am, but it does seem reasonable that folks should at least plan for the contingency that Biden could very well be in the White House, as he’s been polling better than Trump in all the right places for months now. I think the polling is a lot more reflective of reality than in 2016, as the pollsters have generally adjusted for the blind spots they had back then then. There is also a growing possibility the Dems could take the Senate.

    I’m sure I don’t have to help you imagine the huge taxing and regulatory shifts that would take place were that to occur. I just think it’s a possibility worth risk managing for at this point, regardless of your personal politics. At least you can take heart that you’re not up against a possible Bernie presidency. How woke would that be? Maybe too much so for our sad divided country at this point.

  38. 2038
    Erik says:

    RE: Jeff @ 1979
    I don’t remember off hand the percentage of loans that aren’t government backed. I heard it on a video I was watching that Ken Mckelroy posted on YouTube but I don’t remember the exact number. I thought the number was closer to 20% though, but I could be wrong.

    I don’t think Biden will win because he will get crushed in debates. Real estate is a great investment no matter who is president, Trump just rewarded real estate investors big time and is driving asset prices up to keep workers renting longer because they won’t be able to afford houses. USA is turning into Europe where the rich stay rich and poor workers stay poor.

  39. 2039
    richard says:

    the wealth gap created by the housing bubble is actually more divisive than racial discrimination. This is created by systematic information manipulation by interest groups and media, little financial education in our school system, and massive FED market intervention and distortion. The damage is done. It is very superficial to vehemently debate on different political views. All meaningless. The wealth distribution mechanism is totally corrupt. There is no difference between black and other race, there are only two classes of people: those who own assets and those not. I guess most people in this forum own some type of asset so it is kind hypocritical to argue with each other to show how just they are. If most people are not aware of the real cause(FED being #1) of the current situation and they think their problem is caused by other races or the system, I guess we are at risk of owning long-lasting social unrest down the road.

  40. 2040
    Blurtman says:

    RE: richard @ 1981 – It’s not a static situation. The number of millionaires in the US grows with an increase in the value of assets. Of course, the more assets you have, the more of an increase in wealth you experience. Everyone is seeing their 401k’s recover. The is not a bad thing. https://www.barrons.com/articles/number-of-u-s-millionaires-grows-in-2018-for-10th-straight-year-01552506244

  41. 2041
    Jeff says:

    RE: richard @ 1981

    Hey I understand what you’re saying, and sympathize with your point of view. My mom generally avoids political conversations like the plague, but about a week ago, when the protests in Seattle moved toward looting in Bellevue Square, she called to express her concern about how the civil unrest was getting out of hand, and oh yeah, George Floyd’s death was tragic too. But the injustice of George Floyd’s murder was really an afterthought of her primary fear of loosing her privilege. I pointed out to her that it might not be a coincident that the riots were expanding from large inner cities to places like Bellevue Square and Rodeo Drive.

    Her view is that there’s nothing we can do about racial inequality, because she feels that political policies over the last seventy years have failed. Of course, she and her generation have generally voted for the policies and politicians that pull the rug from out of the underclasses. At the same time she feels we need policies to prevent looting, and I’m struggling to convince her that we need policies that address the root of the problem, which is the general financial inequality you speak of.

    Unfortunately, it’s become hard to choose as we’ve come to a point where we have to choose between policies and politicians who pull the rug out either faster or slower, but the rug is still getting yanked one way or another. We all mostly need to talk about all this stuff so that we can change hearts, so I’m happy you are doing that here.

    I totally agree with you that this goes way beyond George Floyd and he has the unfortunate honor of becoming the human fuse, who’s been burned to light a powder keg that has been building since the last financial crises and decades prior.

    I acknowledge that at this point in my life I am closer to the haves than the have nots, and I acknowledge that is as much based on luck as it is on skill and hard work. As I mentioned to Erik, I’ve lost a lot of money fighting the Fed, and I’ve made money because of luck of the draw by virtue of being white, growing up in Bellevue, and many other fortunate circumstances. I’ve also worked hard and made some pretty smart choices.

    As a fellow member of the Bubbles community, I would be happy to give you advice, if I had any, on how to preserve and grow whatever material wealth you have to help yourself, your family and your community. And if you don’t have any material possessions, I might be able to suggest some ways to get some, if I knew a bit more about your situation.

    The relatively unique thing about Erik on Bubbles, is that he seems to be super transparent and open about his material status, background and aspirations, so it makes it easier to interact with him about our specific circumstances. I don’t have to align with his politics or have a similar privilege status to enjoy doing this with him.

    Sorry if I haven’t been paying attention, but knowing little about you Richard, I’ll throw a dart in the dark and suggest you take up small scale farming, as I think that will be a modest growth industry for some time to come. It can even be done on a relatively small plot of earth in an urban or suburban area, and as I mentioned to Erik, I believe there will be opportunities to buy property cheaper in a few years. In the meantime I expect rents will be softening and land owners might be happy to let you farm an empty lot just to keep the weeds down.

    Blessings and good luck out there!

  42. 2042

    RE: Jeff @ 1979

    Hi Jeff:

    Its SWE gulping his crap Yuban and even he’s spitting it out :-)

    The polls are curious creatures, they remind me of crystal ball fog…..the latest Rasmussen Poll shows Biden DNC has 53% support [its fractured in half by Bernie IOWs], Trump has his never Trumpers too, but still has 75% of the GOP support…without party base support, the poll numbers are a joke? I know these things, I’m on the the the GOP King County Post Killer Flu Re-opening Task Force and my single vote is it, in this poll. So throw your cream pies at SWE if ya don’t like my GOP poll voting, BTW, I prefer licking up chocolate ones….LOL

    Hey, that Yuban slop comes in older expiration dates than the older MJB…it is slop, go back to your delicious $5 Starbucks or visit the lovely bikini barista for an exotic mug near you…make sure ya spill your change of the floor, so she has to bend to pick it up? LOL

    There is no brief yet today, Seattle Times laid off all its journalists after reading the HORRIFYING conflicting SWE’s takes???…

    Good News: Tacoma Wide World of Weed lowered their “sale branded” 25% THC sativa/indica to $69/oz, drive a few miles further and pocket more left-over $CASH$….LOL…except you working folk that still have urine testing to keep your jobs. Retire now if you can, join SWE in holistic medical research with herbs….LOL….or throw cream pies at me [chocolate please] if they have urine testing at your jobs.

  43. 2043
    Jeff says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 1984

    I’d love to sit down with you sometime for a cup of Yuban and “holistic medical research” SWE, and would be happy to provide the research material if you can make it to Sedro-Woolley.

  44. 2044

    De-fund the Seattle Riot Police and Use Protester Grenades Against Them Now

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/7/seattle-police-officers-injured-improvised-explosi/

    Hey, maybe the Antifa can innovate and just throw “Japanese Engineered Takata exploding shrapnel bomb air bags” at the Seattle Police…sounds safer than installing them in all our cars’ dashboards the last couple decades…LOL

  45. 2045

    RE: Jeff @ 1985
    I’m Glad You Don’t Have Urine Testing, That Type of Police Surveillance is Evil in a State where its legal.

    Hey, I bet that house of your’s actually has land, its far enough away….so what place is between Kent and your place that doesn’t have Killer Flu quarantines no one cares about anymore…an outdoor park…hey, we could organize a “safe spacing” Bubblehead picnic. Invite everyone, call it “Bubblestock”, like woodstock….we can shout at each other as we converse with N95 muffled mask voices in a politically correct style…while gagging on Yuban…

  46. 2046
    Jeff says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 1987

    Yeah it sucks folks can be drunk out of their mind every night, and all weekend and still hold down a job, while a forklift driver can smoke a joint on Saturday and fail a weed urine test on Tuesday, leading to termination.

    The tricky thing is there’s really not a good test to see if someone is under the influence of THC in the moment like there is with the alcohol breathalyzer test, so it causes workplaces to use far more sensitive tests that can cause failures and firings up to a month after usage. I understand both sides of the argument as I’d rather not have vehicle and heavy equipment operators high on anything, yet it would be nice if they could kick back and burn one down in their free time if they so choose.

  47. 2047

    RE: Jeff @ 1983

    I wrote this recently in my Kirkland facebook group, and was surprised that most people didn’t know that most of the Seattle Area is predominantly white because blacks weren’t allowed to buy in almost any neighborhood except “The CD”.

    My facebook post:

    For Educational Purposes. With all of the multiple posts about race issues recently, it appears many don’t know the history of why many areas here are and have been predominantly white.

    Almost all areas of the Seattle Area had Deed Restrictions prohibiting anyone not white from leasing or buying property until Martin Luther King was killed. Many today are arguing about whether his life and death made a difference. These Deed Restrictions prohibiting blacks and in some cases Asians from buying property in most of the neighborhoods that are still predominantly white existed and in many cases, though not enforceable, still do if the house wasn’t sold in a very long time.

    These were somewhat dismantled during the riots following Martin Luther King’s Assassination. Those questioning Acts of Civil Disobedience and grand scale rioting need to be aware that right here, these types of Deed Restrictions might still be in force had there been no violent, property destroying riots.

    This from a part of Kirkland: “Said lot or lots shall not be sold, conveyed, or rented nor leased, in whole or in part, to any person not of the White race; nor shall any person not of the White race be permitted to occupy any portion of said lot or lots or of any building thereon, except a domestic servant actually employed by a White occupant of such building.”

    This from Juanita: “All tracts in this plat are restricted to R-1 residential use, according to the provisions of King County Zoning Resolution No. 6494, and shall never be sold to anyone other than a member of the Caucasian race.”

    There is a full list in the link at the bottom and note that most of the areas that are still predominantly white and pricey are highlighted in pink noting restrictions like these. Most of the areas with a healthier diversified population and yet lower prices for the most part in comparison are those NOT highlighted in pink where blacks and in some cases Asians were allowed to rent and buy property.

    Note that it is VERY recently, like last year, that owners were even allowed to remove this language from their Deeds unless the property was sold. See link below.

    ALSO and important, in the last TWO years the State of Washington and subsequently National efforts have been made to force facebook to stop Redlining (actually Steering) by Targeting ads to “appropriate” audiences resulting in what is called “inadvertent discrimination”. “After signing a legally binding agreement with the State of Washington Facebook announced that it would remove at least 5,000 categories from its exclusion system to prevent “misuse”, including those relating to races and religions. On March 19, 2019, to settle a lawsuit with the National Fair Housing Alliance, Facebook agreed to create a separate portal for housing, employment, and credit (HEC) advertising with limited targeting options by September 2019, and to provide a public archive of all HEC advertising. Less than two weeks later, HUD filed a lawsuit against Facebook, formally accusing the company of facilitating housing discrimination.”

    New technologies without oversight are blind to the history and further exacerbate the issue with “targeted” ads. So not an old issue that never needs to be revisited.

    Last but not least, and this a spit in the ocean post about this issue of grand magnitude about this area…as recently as 2015 the Supreme Court had to Rule to retain the Disparate Impact constraints to prevent discrimination and many large housing groups vehemently opposed the Court’s Ruling that supported eradicating even the quietest of discrimination techniques.

    This is not just old news. 1968 did not end the long standing practices to only sell or rent to whites, it just made it illegal to grossly state that in new Deeds and it was many years before people actually agreed to adhere to the new law in practice. There were just as many people for many years saying you can’t make me sell or rent to blacks as there are people today saying you can’t make me wear a mask.

    Look at the list in this link. Now go look at the current day demographics. Think on that and also know that without Martin Luther King’s assassination and the VIOLENT riots that followed, these Deed Restrictions would not have become not enforceable and in some cases these still exist, though not enforceable, in current Deeds in THIS area and until LAST YEAR there was no mechanism to remove them unless a property was sold.

    I moved here in 2004 and I’m a Real Estate Agent. I’ve seen A LOT of these restrictions and it still blows my mind. IN THE PRICIEST OF NEIGHBORHOODS there is/was a Special Clause to allow Non-White people to come in the neighborhood between the hours of X and X to CLEAN their houses. There are some neighborhoods with these restrictions that aren’t on the list for some reason but did have them.

    I’ve only been here since 2004 and I’ve seen more discrimination in my 66 years around the Country than most of you will see if you lived three lifetimes. I still see it, because of what I do for a living. I still have to fight it quietly on a case by case basis often, especially when there are multiple offers on a house. If you don’t see it, you aren’t looking or you are turning a blind eye. Heck, there are people here who don’t want some people to Park in Front of THEIR House!

    I’m not protesting. I never have. I have to nip it in the bud in real time often. To the person who called me “a Karen” the other day, know that classing people with a NAME that defines a prejudice or hatred or negative connotation IS the problem. Labels…even ones like “Karen” are BAD. Period.

    Anyway, it seems many don’t know this history given the comments today on the Martin Luther King posts. So I thought this was important. Scroll by if you disagree.

    https://depts.washington.edu/civilr/covenants.htm
    Effective January 1, 2019, property owners may submit documentation that “strikes” any racially discriminatory language from property records. Proposed by State Representative Christine Kilduff, whose bill passed the legislature and was signed by Gov. Inslee in June 2018, the new law allows a proper…

    Most neighborhoods in the above list say white or caucasian. Clyde Hill said “Aryan Race”.

    In the comments one woman whose father was black and mother was white said they moved from Beacon Hill to North Seattle by having only her mother go with the agent. She did say people did not treat them badly after they moved there, but could only by because no one saw her father or them until after closing.

    Another shared her Pin from the 1964 Open Housing Vote where she campaigned to get rid of the white only restrictions, and Seattle voted NO on getting rid of them.

    It wasn’t until the riots caused by Martin Luther King’s assassination, and DURING the riots that Lyndon B. Johnson rushed the passing of the Bill “On April 5, Johnson wrote a letter to the United States House of Representatives urging passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which included the Fair Housing Act.” MLK was assassinated on April 4th, the day before. The Bill Passed on April 11th. Without the riots it would not have been so.

    Quote from President Johnson so very relevant today due to the foot on the neck reference “”What did you expect? I don’t know why we’re so surprised. When you put your foot on a man’s neck and hold him down for three hundred years, and then you let him up, what’s he going to do? He’s going to knock your block off.”

    People talk about Reparations with regard to Slavery, but locally there needs to be reparations for banning blacks from buying homes except primarily in The CD for most of its history. Even after 1968 it didn’t dead stop as you can tell from the current day demographics and the disparity in opportunities locally projected the impact well beyond 1968 and to this day.

    Look up the history of Boeing “In barring African American membership, the IAM was reinforcing the Boeing Company’s own longstanding policy of racial exclusion. From the company’s founding in 1917 through the first years of World War II, not a single African American was hired at Boeing, despite its massive growth over the period. Members of the African American community challenged the Boeing Company because it had become one of the largest employers in the region, and blacks wanted to be included.”

    Anyway, I was so surprised that almost no one knew this in my facebook group I decided to post it here with Jeff’s chat. Yes Jeff. It was the riots that created meaningful change, not the years in the making Bill that couldn’t get passed until the riots and immediately got passed during the riots. April 4, 1968 to April 11, 1968.

  48. 2048
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989

    This is a most irresponsible post. The race restriction in deeds have been illegal and unenforceable for decades. We likely have an over-representation of Asians in the most exclusive neighborhoods (Clyde Hill “Aryan Race”) in the region. So your claim is baseless. I am perplexed by your apparent advocacy for more violence or am I mistaken? We need cooler heads to prevail in this divided nation, not more extreme rhetoric.

  49. 2049
    sfrz says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 1990 – “If a person survives an ordinary span of sixty years or more, there is every chance that his or her life as a shapely story has ended and all that remains to be experienced is epilogue. Life is not over, but the story is.” ~ Kurt Vonnegut

  50. 2050
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989 – Hi Ardell, I enjoy reading your posts, and you don’t strike me as having a bad bone in your body, but…

    You probably know that all ethnicities suffered from discrimination in the housing market in this country. White Americans were ranked by country of origin and ethnicity, along with black Americans and Mexican Americans. My particular ethnicity was ranked right above the “Negroes and Mexicans”. It looks like yours may have been ranked with this lowest group. See:
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/19/498536077/interactive-redlining-map-zooms-in-on-americas-history-of-discrimination
    https://digitalchicagohistory.org/exhibits/show/restricted-chicago/other/redlining

    You may know that the Irish were not considered to be white in the USA at one time, and that Italian Americans were lynched in this country. You may know that contemporaneous with the lofty words on the Statue of Liberty plaque, immigration laws restricted the immigration of Southern and Eastern Europeans and Jewish Europeans due to racial purity concerns. See the Immigration Act of 1924, which expired in 1965.

    Since housing discrimination against black Americans particularly concerns you, so much so that you seem to endorse rioting, looting and arson as an appropriate redress, I’d be curious to know what you are doing to expose the people responsible, and to bring them to justice. You certainly have the skill set.

  51. 2051
    Erik says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 1974
    Thank you Blurtman. I think I’ve turned a corner out of the poor house and just need to keep buying and waiting. I’m far from rich, but I have money saved and I have some good investments. Now hopefully it’s just a matter of time.

    Starting at poor is very difficult. Full disclosure, there was a point when I was in a hard money loan and got laid off, my dad helped me out. I guess I can’t say I got zero help anymore.

  52. 2052
    Beano says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989

    Great post Ardell.

    Unlike others I had no issue with this education.

    You were educating not judging or conducting a full analysis of race in real estate or America.

    Overall the conventional wisdom is that blacks face racism in the south and from republicans and that the problem remains mostly confined to this.

    Pay attention the white liberal is almost exclusively focused on these two groups when it comes to calling out racism.

    Disgraceful.

    The Pacific Northwest has its own terrible racist past and present. In addition to Seattle real estate, Oregon as another example prohibited blacks from living in the state…period.

    Not even in the south was this law, at any point.

    Oregon also practiced eugenics and forced sterilizations into the 80s!!!

    It’s certainly true that American history subject many, if not most, white ethnic groups to racism bad well. Irish, Italian and jews weren’t considered white. Sounds like how we treat Hispanics today….true, but it was worse.

    It would be nice if people could converse without the labels and shouting down of every comment deemed imperfect thought.

    It’s all too common in society and possibly even more prevalent here.

  53. 2053
    Jeff says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989

    Thanks so much for this Ardell, and I think I might share your perspective with my mom.

    Hey Eastsider, if anyone has a long term record of having a cool head here on Bubbles, it would seem to be Ardell. She’s taken heat from many angles, and generally keeps her cool. Maybe someday we will be friends too if you can ever get to a place where my comments don’t make you so hot headed.

  54. 2054
    David says:

    By Eastsider @ 1990:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989

    This is a most irresponsible post. The race restriction in deeds have been illegal and unenforceable for decades. We likely have an over-representation of Asians in the most exclusive neighborhoods (Clyde Hill “Aryan Race”) in the region. So your claim is baseless. I am perplexed by your apparent advocacy for more violence or am I mistaken? We need cooler heads to prevail in this divided nation, not more extreme rhetoric.

    I think you are correct. Here is a list of the races that bought my properties in the past 17 years:

    1) Black
    2) Black
    3) Black
    4) East Asian
    5) Black
    6) White
    7) Black
    8) Vietnamese

    Race was totally irrelevant to any of these transactions. I’m not even sure I knew the race of several until closing. All I cared about was were they prequalified.

    There was not even a mechanism to DISCRIMINATE.

    Anyone really saying anything contradictory is looking for a narrative – aka cuckoldry.

  55. 2055
    David says:

    By Beano @ 1994:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989

    Great post Ardell.

    Unlike others I had no issue with this education.

    You were educating not judging or conducting a full analysis of race in real estate or America.

    Overall the conventional wisdom is that blacks face racism in the south and from republicans and that the problem remains mostly confined to this.

    Pay attention the white liberal is almost exclusively focused on these two groups when it comes to calling out racism.

    Disgraceful.

    The Pacific Northwest has its own terrible racist past and present. In addition to Seattle real estate, Oregon as another example prohibited blacks from living in the state…period.

    Not even in the south was this law, at any point.

    Oregon also practiced eugenics and forced sterilizations into the 80s!!!

    It’s certainly true that American history subject many, if not most, white ethnic groups to racism bad well. Irish, Italian and jews weren’t considered white. Sounds like how we treat Hispanics today….true, but it was worse.

    It would be nice if people could converse without the labels and shouting down of every comment deemed imperfect thought.

    It’s all too common in society and possibly even more prevalent here.

    At the end of the day, the BLM narrative is going to fail horrendously. The crime statistics are completely damning. They will not change in our lifetimes.

    41 people are murdered every day (on average) : 15,000-20,000 annually. Minimum 150,000/decade.

    30% of those murders are NEVER solved. That means there are 45,000 murderers out there who are not incarcerated.

    One racial group which constitutes 4% (male) of the population is responsible for >50% of murders, >60% of armed robberies. The rape stat is even worse.

    If the police are defunded in those communities, it will be Darwinian – and hilarious.

  56. 2056
    David says:

    RE: David @ 1997 – Imagine you’re a newborn baby (1 hour old). Now imagine you’ve already had George Floyd put a gun to your head..

    George Floyd committed a home invasion robbery and put a gun to the pregnant woman’s unborn baby.

    NOT the hero we need. A legend for all the wrong reasons.

  57. 2057
    Dave says:

    I’m only posting because y’all triggered Ardell, not cool.

    The data doesn’t change much year to year so I used the most recent confirmed clean data from 2016.

    Blacks killed in US 2016, 2870
    Blacks killed by whites in US 2016, 243
    **Blacks killed by police while unarmed in US 2016, 16 of 48 unarmed shootings.
    Blacks killed by police while armed in US 2016, 232
    Blacks killed by blacks in US 2016, 2,570

    ** This is what the protests are about. Yea, that.
    Everything else is economic inequality and that’s an entirely different conversation.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

  58. 2058

    RE: Eastsider @ 1990

    They are only unenforceable because of the MLK riots, is the point. Maybe you didn’t read the whole thing. It was long.

    No one wants riots and the context of the piece where it was originally written was people trying to claim that the riots had no impact back when MLK was assassinated. They had immediate impact.

    Today I really don’t know what the fix is and of course not the same in all areas of the Country, but someone has to come up with something and defunding the police is NOT “it”.

    Most of the people being all BLM at the moment are the same people who will initial their current deeds over the last 50 years for the legal description and not blink at the “white only” language in their own property Deeds. The County should have gone to the expense of drafting new deeds way back in 1968.

    You do know it is still not automatic and people weren’t even allowed to do it until last year unless they sold. Bad move and I’m OK with it…but let’s not throw stones at the rest of the Country as if this was some progressive area from the getgo. Laughable when people put up pictures of Trump in his 30’s to say he was a racist, as if this area has the right to throw stones.

    As late as 2004 Agents were putting the Deeds with the all white restrictions on the table at an Open House in the “Buyer Packet”. They still use those Deeds for the “legal description” without even caring who is reading it. And when a black woman in Mount Baker sued because she was horribly embarrassed while reading it in an Open House agents were shocked she sued.

    Like you they the thought somehow “not enforceable anymore” should mean it could stay in there and be disbursed freely. It shouldn’t bother anyone to read it because somewhere in some law it wasn’t enforceable. It wasn’t until January of last year Eastsider that you could even ASK for it to be removed if the property hasn’t sold in a long time…and it’s still not an automatic change if the owner doesn’t ask.

    I can’t believe you are defending that in this day and age. Even 20 years ago it was bad. 40 years ago. Black Lives Matter but you can leave racist language from 1968 to present and just let it naturally erode itself. Bad Move PNW. I used to see them all the time when I first moved here in 2004. I see them less and less at least.

  59. 2059
    Juststoppedby says:

    By Jeff @ 1995:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989

    Hey Eastsider, if anyone has a long term record of having a cool head here on Bubbles, it would seem to be Ardell. She’s taken heat from many angles, and generally keeps her cool.

    This is a sales/marketing vehicle for Ardell, and she has a very strong interest in projecting the persona that you just described.

    Agree with her or not on any given subject (doesn’t matter to me), but I’ve found that explains a lot of the views that she promotes.

    Regards

  60. 2060
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2000

    All prelim titles from Title cos clearly state that such historical restrictions are illegal/unenforceable. If buyers are still confused, which I doubt, their agents should know better.

    If you believe there are blatant racial discriminations today, especially in PNW, tell us what they are.

    There is no evidence of systemic racism in police enforcement in FBI data. There is even a Harvard study to back it up. Otherwise, NYT/Wapo/CNN/Atlantic/BLM would be all over it.

    It is easy to incite people for political purpose – “By Any Means Necessary”? I don’t think (some) people expected riots in Bellevue. But you eventaully reap what you sow. (Btw, Medina is just a short stroll from Bellevue square.)

  61. 2061
    Eastsider says:

    By Dave @ 1999:

    I’m only posting because y’all triggered Ardell, not cool.

    The data doesn’t change much year to year so I used the most recent confirmed clean data from 2016.

    Blacks killed in US 2016, 2870
    Blacks killed by whites in US 2016, 243
    **Blacks killed by police while unarmed in US 2016, 16 of 48 unarmed shootings.
    Blacks killed by police while armed in US 2016, 232
    Blacks killed by blacks in US 2016, 2,570

    ** This is what the protests are about. Yea, that.
    Everything else is economic inequality and that’s an entirely different conversation.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

    Last week, Tucker Carlson went through every single killing of unarmed African-Americans by the police in 2019. You are free to make up your own mind based on the evidence.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-is-america-being-torn-apart-by-a-total-complete-but-provable-lie

  62. 2062
    Jeff says:

    RE: Juststoppedby @ 2001

    I sympathize with many of your comments, and I’d be happy to share commentary and advice regarding your situation, but you seem to be fairly opaque in this regards. Sorry if I’ve missed any details you’ve shared regarding yourself. If I do give you advice, please don’t sue me if I’m wrong, which is not unlikely.

  63. 2063
    Jeff says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 2003

    Something tells me you may have been sympathetic to the Tea Party movement which was pretty much a reaction to a black person being elected to the Presidency as near as a I could tell.

    The Boston Tea Party was a destructive riot by white people against systemic oppression, which has been glorified in grade schools since at least the 70’s, when I was first indoctrinated into that riotously glorious history we all share.

  64. 2064
    sfrz says:

    RE: Juststoppedby @ 2001 – Exactly. Well versed at salesmanship and deflection. Winning!

    “Transitioning from a salesperson to a human being and being authentic gives me the opportunity to sell them a home. By giving my agents questions and teaching them to listen and just be them, that’s what gives them the opportunity to sell.”
    https://www.followupboss.com/blog/sales-techniques-real-estate-scripts

  65. 2065
    whatsmyname says:

    Here at the Seattle Alt-right Bubble, an entire day has passed without anyone appearing to notice that the NWMLS stats are out. They show a 44% YOY decrease in King County inventory, and trends are not inconsistent with a possible all time low inventory in June. Remember the Alamo!… or whatever.

  66. 2066

    RE: David @ 1996

    The only current day practice I object to is having people send in Love Letters with a picture of their family on it. That has caused some problems for my clients but I have been able to turn those around before there was any damage.

    Agree that sellers should not know what the buyers look like when choosing in multiple offers, but sadly that has not been the case. In fact when I posted this originally in facebook a woman said “Prove it!” and said “It’s a Free Market, I can sell to anyone I want!” as if there are no Fair Housing Laws at all.

    The way that I present offers eliminates this problem entirely. Usually when I have a problem it is with a gay couple or clients with unusual names, but as I said, I can usually prevent bad things from happening though sometimes I have to be pretty firm about it.

    Usually it is largely in line with the 2015 Supreme Court decision that NAR and many Industry Insiders opposed. The issue of Disparate Impact and Inadvertent vs Overt Discrimination. Sellers reading the letter and looking at the pictures and saying “I like these people. They remind me of us when we bought the house”. Lovely sellers and unintentional discrimination in many cases. I have a system that prevents that, but there should be a law against sending photos of the buyers to the sellers. NAR has discouraged Love Letters since the 2015 Supreme Court Ruling.

    Yes…it can still be the highest price…but often that is because they counter the people they want to sell to with that highest price.

    Your list doesn’t tell us anything unless you tell us what neighborhoods in the Seattle Area they are. If they are South of Downtown Seattle and not on the Eastside, that would be normal.

    I don’t know a true fix for it but I do think some programs to improve things would be nice and should have been done a long time ago to acknowledge the disparity. I think things may have gotten worse since after 30 years of all being able to go to any school in Seattle regardless of residency they switched to a geographic based school system. That caused a lot of problems that are now apparent. I think they made that change in 2009 but the impact was delayed and is still trickling in as most students were grandfathered.

  67. 2067

    RE: sfrz @ 2006

    Haha! I was always “a human being and authentic”. I was kinda born that way. I didn’t transition from a salesperson. I was a Fiduciary for many years and brought those same duties and qualities with me to real estate. Just being me.

    Sorry if “being a human and authentic” offends you. LOL!

    Do you really think talking about race issues is going to endear me to people and bring me more clients? LOL!!!! What are you smoking boy?

  68. 2068
    Beano says:

    By David @ 1997:

    By Beano @ 1994:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 1989

    Great post Ardell.

    Unlike others I had no issue with this education.

    You were educating not judging or conducting a full analysis of race in real estate or America.

    Overall the conventional wisdom is that blacks face racism in the south and from republicans and that the problem remains mostly confined to this.

    Pay attention the white liberal is almost exclusively focused on these two groups when it comes to calling out racism.

    Disgraceful.

    The Pacific Northwest has its own terrible racist past and present. In addition to Seattle real estate, Oregon as another example prohibited blacks from living in the state…period.

    Not even in the south was this law, at any point.

    Oregon also practiced eugenics and forced sterilizations into the 80s!!!

    It’s certainly true that American history subject many, if not most, white ethnic groups to racism bad well. Irish, Italian and jews weren’t considered white. Sounds like how we treat Hispanics today….true, but it was worse.

    It would be nice if people could converse without the labels and shouting down of every comment deemed imperfect thought.

    It’s all too common in society and possibly even more prevalent here.

    At the end of the day, the BLM narrative is going to fail horrendously. The crime statistics are completely damning. They will not change in our lifetimes.

    41 people are murdered every day (on average) : 15,000-20,000 annually. Minimum 150,000/decade.

    30% of those murders are NEVER solved. That means there are 45,000 murderers out there who are not incarcerated.

    One racial group which constitutes 4% (male) of the population is responsible for >50% of murders, >60% of armed robberies. The rape stat is even worse.

    If the police are defunded in those communities, it will be Darwinian – and hilarious.

    I don’t disagree with you.

    BLM suddenly thinking canceling police is a good thing is insane. The rich will have private security and the rest will have the purge.

    The facts you cited are true. The fact BLM won’t engage on this part is proof how full of shit the movement is.

  69. 2069
    Blurtman says:

    Black crime stats from Wiki:

    Homicide
    According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and “Other” 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher.

    Assault
    The CDC keeps data on non-fatal injury emergency department visits and the race of victims.[70] While non-Hispanic white victims account for approximately half of total non-fatal assault injuries, most of which did not involve any weapon, black and Hispanic victims account for the vast majority of non-fatal firearm injuries.

    Youth crime
    The “National Youth Gang Survey Analysis” (2011) state that of gang members, 46% are Hispanic/Latino, 35% are black, 11.5% are white, and 7% are other races/ethnicities.[73]

    According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery.

    Robbery
    According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, robberies with white victims and black offenders were more than 12 times more common than vice versa.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

    A black WSJ commentator on the Sunday talk shows cited stats regarding the disproportionate percentage of 911 calls emanating from the black community.

    So the police have more frequent interactions with black Americans, who commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes. It is not unlikely that the frequency of negative interactions with the police is directly related to the frequency of total interactions with the police.

  70. 2070
    David says:

    RE: Dave @ 1999 – If Seattle dismantles the popo, I predict a collapse in real estate prices of 85% in-town – and really in the whole metro.

    Security fence companies will prosper though – barbed wire companies, etc.

    Maybe a company can invent a robot system that – when activated – immediately pummels the assailant to death and drags the body off to the bay. Or least blinds the assailant completely.

  71. 2071

    RE: Blurtman @ 2011
    Hey Blurtman, Some Folks are Gonna Simply Hate You for Bringing This Up

    To quote one of Biden’s recent gaffes: “We choose truth over facts”.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/truth-over-facts-biden-fumbles-during-iowa-speech

    You must go to the “politically correct snowflake punishment corner” now and wear your dunce hat for being “too honest” naughty…LOL

    I’m still guzzling swine garbage MJB, drooling down my chin, ranting about Toastmasters [which has been shut down for two months anyway due to Killer Flu], and found today’s brief:

    “…Man shot in Seattle after gunman drives car into George Floyd protest
    A gunman drives his car into a crowd on Capitol Hill last night, before the man reaching into the car to stop it was shot. A video shows the chaotic scene that left him hospitalized on the 10th night of protests. The attack came after Seattle’s mayor and police chief apologized for some actions by police officers but also asked protesters to do more to quell violence. Read how the day went from peaceful protest to tear-gas-tinged mayhem that lasted long into the night, and find today’s live updates. (Photo: Dean Rutz / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s take: The Battle of Seattle in 1999 waged against protesters of Clinton/NWO/WTO had Capital Hill laced with rubber bullets and tear gas then too…it seems to be a hotspot for Seattle area riot violence. History repeats itself even on apparently diametric opposite partisan view points…man is doomed to make the same stupid errors anyway?

    “… Washington confirmed 287 new COVID-19 cases yesterday. Find today’s live updates here.
    The state’s $37 million push to buy Chinese-made masks slammed up against delays, poor quality and fit problems. Officials canceled more than half the orders as medical workers donned homemade masks instead. Read the Times Watchdog story…”

    SWE’s take: My Chinese thermometer took 6 weeks delivery time on eBay and came stepped on, instructions missing and the clear plastic holding case was cracked, the thermometer still worked though. It sat in a Chinese post office for 5 weeks too, I was tracking it on eBay too. Some say the masks don’t work if they aren’t fiber board N95 quality with face gasket. Have you tried to talk to someone wearing a N95 type mask? Let’s put it this way, I can wear $2500 digital hearing aids and it still sounds like muffled grunts instead of a voice…LOL…the homemade useless scarves transmit voice clarity much better.

    SWE’s take: Meat prices are about double of a few months ago…the sale meat at stores is like Jenny-o turkey breast [dried up and no one likes] for 99 cents a lb. Even the fast food combos with decent “real” meat portions [not thick greasy fried white flour skin surrounding no meat] are like $10 lately with a coke and fries…in a small bag that weighs hardly anything…when did this happen?

    “… Las Vegas casinos are open, but we may never know how many people are getting sick there — and the same tracking gap exists in many other states.
    Seattle-area wallets opened wide when the coronavirus hit. Will giving fade like it did during the last recession?
    Escape to someplace new. As coronavirus keeps many of us from traveling far, these six new paperbacks will do the trick.
    Make fondue, or build a newspaper fort. The Weekly Wonder offers five ways for kids to escape boredom.

    LATEST LIFE STORIES

    When can you get books from Seattle and King County libraries, and what can you expect on reopening?…”

    SWE’s take: You can get paperless stream copies at the library with lots of titles this way…when they open next Christmas? Until then, use AMZ….I scored a collectable 1st edition 2015 $30 signed copy of “Beauty’s Kingdom” from Anne Rice this way BTW, for like $5. Great “new condition” hard cover adult literature best seller 4 book series BTW, its a twist on the Sleeping Beauty tale. I’ll give ya hint, if you’re single its your kinda read….

    “…Seattle was right to pause efforts to reduce federal oversight of its police. Before resuming that effort, Seattle must show progress negotiating a new police contract with stronger accountability measures, writes The Seattle Times editorial board. And editorial cartoonist David Horsey contemplates well-intentioned tweets gone wrong. ..”

    SWE’s take: If you police violence and looting on the streets, use less effort and it magically just goes away.

    Good News: You can Perhaps get a haircut now? My hair dresser is still quarantined, so call in first:

    https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2020/06/king-county-cleared-for-phase-1-5-restaurants-at-25-in-store-retail-and-you-can-get-your-haircut/

    Soooo…how many of you Bubbleheads are going Casino and restaurant bar hopping with safe distancing and plastic outdoor tables only? Lord only knows…the rules are clear as crystal ball fog.

  72. 2072
    armk says:

    By Dave @ 1999:

    **Blacks killed by police while unarmed in US 2016, 16 of 48 unarmed shootings.
    Blacks killed by police while armed in US 2016, 232

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

    Dave, do you have more stats on police kills of armed/unarmed people broken down by race? I couldn’t find these numbers in your FBI link. Perhaps you used another source?

  73. 2073
    David says:

    RE: armk @ 2014https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr

    None of this matters if you move to a place controlled by Republicans. Police brutality happens in Democrat-controlled areas.

    Avoid Democrats.

  74. 2074
    Dave says:

    By armk @ 2014:

    By Dave @ 1999:

    **Blacks killed by police while unarmed in US 2016, 16 of 48 unarmed shootings.
    Blacks killed by police while armed in US 2016, 232

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

    Dave, do you have more stats on police kills of armed/unarmed people broken down by race? I couldn’t find these numbers in your FBI link. Perhaps you used another source?

    This is the last time I’m replying to this thread since the comments here are over half misleading and incorrect. I assign no fault to posters here since both google and the fbi are intentionally burying data, this is not an opinion as the facts of the situation are discussed in the 2017-19 reports linked above prompting multiple independent agencies to collect their own data.

    Here’s the Washing Post csv data that you can download and sql query yourself;
    https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings

    and since in typical WP style the raw data is messy and needs to be compared to the doj/fbi data as explained here;
    https://www.newsweek.com/police-killings-unarmed-black-men-538542

    so now since 2016 the doj is the black hole of data collection that still, as of today, is somewhat dubious;
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-outlines-plan-enable-nationwide-collection-use-force-data

    thus making the cleaner 2016 data useful until verified unwashed data becomes available.

    No, I don’t know why they’re making such simple information so difficult to obtain.

    Yes, I see that the facts are damning for BLM and the current mainstream narrative.

    I recommend you keep facts to yourself then smile and nod to whatever truth the mob is throwing up and avoid engaging, retweeting, or posting. Facts can get you fired, banned, or even lynched in this environment, no kidding.

  75. 2075
    ruxpert says:

    The Cost of Social Distancing
    Small businesses die while Big Business makes a killing

    Jim Cramer:
    The pandemic led to ‘one of the greatest wealth transfers in history
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55191.htm

    https://youtu.be/15pFQxG9wko

  76. 2076
    armk says:

    RE: David @ 2015

    Thanks David. I didn’t quite find what I was looking for but this is why I was interested.

    From your numbers, out of 48 police kills of unarmed people, 16 were black (33%). The left is going to argue that black people are only 13% of the population so they are way overrepresented in police kills of unarmed people. The right is going to argue that black people are 52% of all homicide victims, so they are actually underrepresented in police kills of unarmed people.

    I think both interpretations are problematic. The left argument doesn’t account for the fact that different racial groups may have different likelihoods of being mixed up in criminal activity in the first place. The right argument is saying that as a black person you should be more worried about dying from someone else, more than you should be worried about dying from the police… which is not really answering the question at stake. This question is: given the same set of suspicious behaviors that lead to a police encounter, is that encounter more likely to end in you being killed if you are black than if you are not black?

    That’s why I was looking for more data to answer that question, but it seems sparse and unavailable. There is a Yale (liberal bias) research paper saying that a police encounter is equally likely to end with being killed for both black and non-black people. However, a police encounter is more likely to end with some kind of force if you are black/Hispanic. The theory is that police have to deal with a lot of trouble if they kill someone, so they’re not racially biased when it comes to killing. But roughing someone up doesn’t carry serious consequences, so the police are more ok with being racially biased there.

    How a lot of this snowballs is when the police think they are “just” roughing someone up (kneeling on necks) but accidentally end up killing them…

  77. 2077
    David says:

    RE: armk @ 2017 – I’ve been lead counsel in 7 murder cases. I’ve been a witness in two distinct murder cases. A witness to a police killing a perpetrator. I’ve had several people I know shot but survived (0ne was shot 6 times and lived!). Every single defendant/perp was black but one who was white.

    This was all in DC, Atlanta & Seattle – so the stats are skewed.

    But I can tell you this, you go down or FOIA the criminal complaints where the defendant is black and you will almost always find this UNWAVERING FACT:

    The COMPLAINING WITNESS was usually another black person – period. I always pointed this out to any defendant who wanted to blame the cop or the ‘Man’ for arresting them.

    The convo would usually go something like this:

    D (defendant): “Man I cannot believe the cops arrested me for this. They should just leave me alone. Ya feel me?”

    Me: “Hmm. Let me take a look at this complaint form. It says here the cop responded to a call from Tamika who says you beat her a$$ in front of the kids….. Dude cops don’t just magically appear out of nowhere.

    You know why the cops showed up? Cuz Tamika wanted you arrested.”

    I would always come back around and say: “So you see the cops are not your enemy here. Tamika is your enemy. Don’t get confused – right now in these circumstances, she is why your whole life is possibly going to get screwed up.”

  78. 2078
    Nicole says:

    RE: Beano @ 2010 – No one wants to actually get rid of police forces. Defunding police is about taking money used for the militarization of police and using that money to bolster communities in other ways: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/05/defunding-the-police-us-what-does-it-mean

  79. 2079
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Nicole @ 2019

    This is such a twisted logic. How about put it up for a vote in November? You won’t because you don’t trust the voters.

  80. 2080
    Jeff says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 2020

    If you’re going to call something illogical, it’s only fair to explain what you find twisted logically about it, otherwise your comment sounds irrelevant. Did you read the article Nicole linked? It would be nice if you could respond precisely, thoroughly and rationally to that article and her comment rather than respond to the imaginary antifa in your head that seems to frighten you and make you so hot headed here on Bubbles.

  81. 2081
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2021

    Again, if you want to defund police, put it up for a vote. You are free to spin your propaganda to the voters, even Seattle voters.

  82. 2082
    David says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 2022 – Odd how Seattle’s police are always under constant Federal oversight. And none in the South are.

    But, Seattle likes to look down on flyover country.

    I’m all for defunding the popo in Seattle! Everyone needs a really good cautionary tale. Especially when the thugtocracy is 1,000 miles from any other major metro.

    Livestream that shiite!

  83. 2083
    David says:

    RE: David @ 2023 – I’ma sneak back in and buy some real estate once the riots really get going good.

    All those panicked Seattle whities are going to be ripe.

  84. 2084
    Dave says:

    RE: armk @ 2014
    Summary here;
    https://www.newsweek.com/police-killings-unarmed-black-men-538542

    The data post 2016 is messy but similar thus the need for third party data collection like WP CSV dataset here; https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings

    Lots of bad data out there, proceed carefully.

  85. 2085
    Jeff says:

    RE: David @ 2024

    The real antifa vs profa action is up in the Forks area apparently.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/washington-family-accused-antifa/index.html

    Also, Snohomish just had the good sense to demote their police chief for glorifying the armed vigilantes that were having a jolly old tailgate party the other night, hate group insignias and all.
    https://komonews.com/news/local/snohomish-police-chief-demoted-amid-outcry-over-armed-vigilantes

    Now that’s some news
    to enjoy some Yuban over.

  86. 2086
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2026

    The only two towns that weren’t looted were the ones with armed vigilantes. #justsayin

  87. 2087

    Guzzle Your Mug of Starbucks and read the brief:

    “…Snohomish’s police chief has been replaced amid tension over how he handled rumors that spurred citizens to gather with semi-automatic weapons in the city’s historic downtown….”

    SWE’s Take: No police funding, no police when we need ’em?

    https://2qibqm39xjt6q46gf1rwo2g1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/21702639_web1_L-Snohomish-2-200602-1200×777.jpg

    “…Portland’s police chief has resigned amid accusations that her department used inappropriate force against protesters. ..”

    SWE’s take: City Police Chiefs an extinct dinosaur now? BLM handing out the city management pink slips…LOL

    “…Alex Audretsch uses Wi-Fi at a McDonald’s to do his job, because his home near Redmond lacks enough access to reliable, high-speed internet. When the pandemic suddenly thrust many jobs and schools online, it became painfully clear that closing the digital divide isn’t as simple as handing out computers. Here’s a look at who doesn’t have internet access in Washington, and why. (Photo: Ken Lambert / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s Take: Schools and libraries replaced with subpar McDonalds WiFi now [in your dinky sub compact car]….he should stop eating the burgers there too, he’s fat in the picture…I read yesterday that states are spending $16,000/student and haven’t learned a speck of math…no wonder, LOL

    “…A shallow tunnel could replace the West Seattle Bridge. That’s one of the options the city has started considering, but it wouldn’t be simple…”

    SWE’s Take: That should shut down west Seattle until 2030.

    “…Happy June-uary. We’ll be keeping our sweaters and umbrellas handy until temperatures warm up a bit tomorrow. But don’t get too excited, because it’s the story of most Junes around here: It won’t be long before we’re “back to reality,” a National Weather Service meteorologist says…”

    SWE’s take: So 50 degree weather kills all the new flowers ya planted, buy new replacements in July. I hope the global cooling goes on through September…it beats breathing hot weather smoke pollution. If ya don’t like rain in Seattle, I’m holding the door open for you to leave, bye…what did you expect when ya moved here? David’s Florida [they have hurricanes too]?

    “… The Hanford Reach National Monument is established in 2000, protecting the last free-flowing stretch of the Columbia River. The undammed Hanford Reach, a 51-mile river segment from below the Priest Rapids Dam to Richland, supports some of the most productive salmon-spawning grounds in the Northwest…”

    SWE’s take: I can tell you with Nuclear Engineer credentials the Columbia River ppm of deadly radioactive isotope from nuclear waste drainage is very low, mostly natural erosion caused too…but the salmon are not coming back there either.

    https://www.nwcouncil.org/news/2020-columbia-river-salmon-and-steelhead-forecast-low-again

    SWE’s Take: Be careful when ya buy salmon too, much of it is that mushy tasting “farmed” salmon with mercury, even a good portion of the alleged wild caught from Alaska….they don’t price this years Coho runs…$20/lb IOWs? IMO the Casino Buffets and Cheap Chinese Buffets used all the cheap farmed stuff [especially “all ya can eat” shrimp and crab] and cover it up with strong seasoned fat sauces…the lemmings love to gobble it up, its delicious.

    Good News: I noticed the only meat on sale at Safeway was dried up turkey breast carcasses [the juicy dark meat was removed] and farm shrimp…constipation or slow mercury poisoning, your choice…LOL…where’s the beef? Turkey breast can be moistened up for eating, just gob tablespoons of mayonnaise on it or scoop fatty gravy on it….LOL..then gobble it by the gallon, like the farm shrimp with mercury. Soon you’ll look just like the obese school pupil doing his Wifi homework at McDonalds, clutching Trump’ s favorite treat, a Big Mac with fries…LOL

  88. 2088

    In a Blink of an Eye Seattle Condo Cities Become Ghost Towns Now?

    “…Have the events of 2020 caused you to consider moving somewhere else? If so, you are definitely not alone. The COVID-19 pandemic, a historic economic downturn and extremely violent riots in major cities all across America are fueling a sudden surge in interest in rural and suburban properties. This represents a major shift, because prior to 2020 we had seen a tremendous boom in real estate prices in large cities such as New York, San Francisco and Seattle. Now a lot of those buyers have become very motivated sellers, but there just isn’t a lot of demand for tremendously overpriced homes in core urban areas that are currently being torn to pieces by rioters.

    Meanwhile, prices for rural and suburban homes are being pushed up as an increasing number of Americans seek to get away from the major cities.

    At first, it was the coronavirus pandemic that was the primary reason why so many people wanted to move. According to Redfin, page views for homes in rural communities and small towns were way, way up in March as the virus began to spread aggressively in the United States…”

    SWE’s Take: Hey Erik, your opinion? Time for a reset in prediction techniques? The INSANE high prices in Seattle never did make much sense to me for decades now, but they continued anyway? Dave, the “rare” tooth fairy clutching his gold stock tooth had an option.

  89. 2089
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: Nicole @ 2019

    Since I’m officially the old lady with hindsight perspective today, it being my 66th birthday, the role of the police expanded dramatically when we deinstitutionalized. These days if you count all of the people in the Seattle Area who seem to have the need for a “support animal” due to mental issues, a large portion of the population is mentally unstable.

    When I was young the ethnic neighborhoods like mine “policed” their own neighborhoods. The police would round up the homeless and a lot of “criminals” from Downtown in The City and in neighborhoods that didn’t self-police and disperse them to long vs short term mental facilities and drug rehab programs.

    “Since the advent of de-institutionalization and the exodus of persons with mental illness into the community, law enforcement agencies have played an increasingly important role in the management of persons who are experiencing psychiatric crises. The police are very often the first to be called to deal with persons with mental health emergencies.”

    “The police are typically the first and often the sole community resource called on to respond to urgent situations involving persons with mental illness. They are responsible for either recognizing the need for treatment for an individual with mental illness and connecting the person with the proper treatment resources or making the determination that the individual’s illegal activity is the primary concern and that the person should be arrested. This responsibility thrusts them into the role of primary gatekeepers who determine whether the mental health or the criminal justice system can best meet the needs of the individual with acute psychiatric problems.”

    These are older quotes from a psychiatric site. The movement at the moment is in part recognizing that the police are not trained and equipped to be these “gatekeeps who determine whether the mental health or the criminal justice system can best meet the needs of the individual with psychiatric problems.” I removed “acute” from the quote as to psychiatric problems. Sometimes they are on drugs as the main impairment during the crime, or chronic alcoholics or someone who forgot to take or doesn’t want to take their meds.

    Longer term care facilities for the mentally ill were pretty much abolished except for people with a lot of money who can pay for that type of care. Mainly because they the conditions in those were God-awful.

    I don’t think the police will disagree with that logic generally and some cities were already revamping the department to include mental health professionals to accompany police, or rather vice versa, especially on repeat calls where the police had previously encountered the “criminal” and knew they had a mental dysfunction.

    Capture and release is part of the problem.

  90. 2090
    Dave says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2030

    Happy Birthday Ardell!

    You are beyond correct. While in school in 1984 I was a volunteer at the Los Angeles VA that was scrambling due to de-funding from the federal government. Real Rambo characters with mental health issues were being thrown out on the street to fend for themselves and the call for help pulled me in at the volunteer level. The days of the asylums were ending and the system had to absorb many mentally challenged individuals. That was a very eye-opening summer for me although today’s issues are similar, they appear to have more to do with large numbers of uneducated immigrants which is arguably easier to correct longer term although the mental illness numbers can be seen in the homeless problem. Double trouble! and notice how race has nothing to do with the real problems.

  91. 2091
    Eastsider says:

    Sure defund the police…

    Wealthy buyers reportedly in ‘mad rush’ to leave San Francisco
    https://www.sfgate.com/living-in-sf/article/Wealthy-buyers-in-mad-rush-to-leave-SF-15324574.php

  92. 2092
    JustNoise says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2030

    Happy birthday, Ardell! Thanks for always adding some depth to this nutty comment section!

  93. 2093

    RE: Dave @ 2031

    I will add “under-educated Americans” to the “uneducated immigrants”. My personal plea would be to better equalize the schools such that the schools with a 1 or 2 or 3 or even under 7 school rank as to test scores have programs that will help those schools much more than now.

    It’s borderline criminal in this Country to have some schools at a 10 rank and others at a 1,2,3 rank, often in the same School District. The schools I have seen increase their rank in the 16 years I have been in the area did it by tearing down and building pricier housing and forcing lower income people out instead of elevating their education with better support programs.

    If you look up every school by school rank and then look at the breakdown of race in the school and crime in the area…it is a real eye opener. Economics has become the issue and so we know that money rules these test scores. All to often the higher ranked schools get more money because they are rewarded for better results. When in fact the better results have more to do with wealthier parents.

    I forget when this test score relationship to Federal Funding started, but not all that long ago relative to my lifetime.

    “While schools don’t have to administer annual achievement tests, they’ll lose funding if they don’t. Local school districts determine test content, but with the recent push toward meeting Common Core standards, states’ tests are becoming more standardized. A school that consistently fails to meet Adequate Yearly Progress standards may not be able to access some grants and other forms of funding. After five years of failure to meet AYP standards, a school can be closed altogether.”

    This results in less access to funds for the schools that need it most. It was a good idea on paper, but really. Give more money to the schools that need it the least was a pretty dumb idea. It hasn’t worked and you can’t close all the schools in the lowest economic areas because they don’t qualify for “grants and other forms of funding”. So the rich get more education and the poor get less. That really was not a smart move and yes, I do think it leads to more “uneducated” and more crime as a result in areas with the poorest ranked schools.

    Part of the “systemic” problem, in large part in my opinion” is the disparity in educational resources which was heightened by punishing the schools with lower scores who need funding most.

  94. 2094
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: JustNoise @ 2033

    Thank you. I can’t/won’t add “depth” to the real site topic of Real Estate at this time because it would be unconscionable to draw conclusion from this market in pandemic and would lead to a false conclusion.

    It would be a false positive when we all know an imminent recession is a real possibility. House prices not showing weakness (or at least not any more weakness than the latter half of 2018) is not surprising. The stock markets climbing defy it, and so we are still at a 50/50 chance vs a surety as to recession. Plus the market is not reacting in unison.

    Some houses do very well and others not, the same way that some stocks are doing crazy well while other companies are closing. This is not a trend situation and you have to see the trees and not the forest. Since slicing and dicing it would be criticized as “cherry picking” I don’t bother because the real truth lies in the smaller stories than the broad stats that meld it all together into a story that makes zero sense and reads as a false positive. I do it for myself of course, but sharing the results publicly would add more confusion vs clarity. One thing the world does NOT need right now is additional confusing data. :)

  95. 2095
    Eastsider says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2035

    You missed the news that the U.S. economy is officially in recession according to NBER. The recession began in February.

  96. 2096
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 2036

    I saw that. I didn’t miss it. But that doesn’t tell us enough. In fact it is EXACTLY what I was talking about.

    Is it merely pandemic oriented such that when we re-open it was simply a forecast of pandemic conditions and not a long lasting recession? Personally I am on the side of a full blown recession. But saying things are bad when we shut the Country down is just a big DUH!!! Plus it is not particularly relevant to “Seattle Real Estate” at the moment given we are not even to Phase 2 yet.

    I’m surprised you don’t see the big “DUH” in that article. You can’t work and you have to close your business entirely doesn’t equal a “recession”. It equals a big clusterfck. You can open at 25% capacity no different. Question is can we pull out of the tailspin before we crash. No one knows that answer yet, but I’m still back at it’s 2020. It’s an election year. The market will crash.

  97. 2097
    Jeff says:

    By Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2027:

    RE: Jeff @ 2026

    The only two towns that weren’t looted were the ones with armed vigilantes. #justsayin

    Could you please provide a list of towns that were looted? Sedro-Woolley wasn’t looted. I know our police chief personally well enough to trust he would not put up with armed vigilantes, and that his department could keep the peace between the “antifa” and “profa” loonies.

  98. 2098
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2038

    Seriously? “Between 2016 and 2017 the population of Sedro-Woolley, WA grew from 11,225 to 11,360, a 1.2% increase and its median household income grew from $44,643 to $47,602, a 6.63% increase. The population of Sedro-Woolley, WA is 76.5% White Alone, 15.1% Hispanic or Latino, and 5.08% Two or More Races.”

    According to the stats you don’t even have a black person. Big BLM demonstrations there? I don’t even see a police matter in Sedro Wooley that made the news since 2018.

    Let’s stay in the realm of reality. :) I expect there are no riots or looting at The North Pole either.

  99. 2099
    David says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2039 – OMG, burtally hilarious take down!!! Ahaaahahahahaha!!

  100. 2100
    David says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2037 – The realtors should riot . Violently approach various martini bars and demand discounts.

    The State will leave you alone then.

  101. 2101
    Brianna says:

    Happy birthday, Ardell! I hope you have a lovely day.

    I appreciate your real estate commentary – even though this market has too many wild cards in play to make any predictions. We will all just have to sit back and watch, while eating our popcorn…

  102. 2102
    David says:

    By Jeff @ 2026:

    RE: David @ 2024

    The real antifa vs profa action is up in the Forks area apparently.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/washington-family-accused-antifa/index.html

    Also, Snohomish just had the good sense to demote their police chief for glorifying the armed vigilantes that were having a jolly old tailgate party the other night, hate group insignias and all.
    https://komonews.com/news/local/snohomish-police-chief-demoted-amid-outcry-over-armed-vigilantes

    Now that’s some news
    to enjoy some Yuban over.

    Sounds like you are in a town that could legit defund the popo and the sheriff. Why wait?

    Also, Baltimore and you are in my prayers: “Dear Higher Being of Jewish Origin, please karma Jeff and send him to in-town Baltimore. He needs a reality overhaul. Salutations from Me.”

  103. 2103
    Jeff says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2039

    Sedro-Woolley has at least a thousand more residents than the town of Snohomish with similar racial demographics. So how does any of this justify AR toting vigilantes waving confederate flags and sporting patches with hate group insignia?

  104. 2104
    ArdellDellaLoggia says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2043

    I was thinking more of Downtown Kirkland. Sedro Wooley is like Mars to me.

  105. 2105
    Erik says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2043
    Sedro-Woolley is hick town. The only reason I even know what it is because I went to high school In Arlington, another backwoods hick town. People in Puget Sound do not consider those areas because they are so disassociated from the puget sound.

  106. 2106
    Jeff says:

    RE: ArdellDellaLoggia @ 2044RE: ArdellDellaLoggia @ 2044

    It’s apparent you’re not familiar with Sedro-Woolley as you spelled it with one “l”, which is a common mistake for outsiders of this backwoods hick town.

  107. 2107
    Jeff says:

    RE: Erik @ 2045

    The fledgling didn’t make it far from the nest as Camino Island isn’t far geographically or culturally from Arlington. The person from Bothell who just bough our acreage sure seems to consider Woolley as part of the greater Puget Sound area.

  108. 2108
    Blurtman says:

    Interesting history on Sedro Wolley on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedro-Woolley,_Washington

    Town was originally called Bug. Sedro is a bastardization of the Spanish cedro, meaning cedar. Originally a logging and mining town settled by Englishmen.

    Historically, the USA has been an Anglo-Teutonic country. Germany contributed the largest number of European immigrants to the country, Ireland second. That is why Latin America is called such, Spanish being a derivative of Latin. So is French, and Quebec is technically part of Latin America. English is a Germanic language.

    If you examine the names of the US presidents, you will see primarily a long list of English and a few Irish names. And Trump is German.

  109. 2109
    Jeff says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 2048

    Nice research Blurtman. One unfortunate incident in Sedro-Woolley’s history was in the early 1960’s when the town council decided to tare down the Carnegie Library to make way for a new high school gymnasium. The Sedro-Woolley Carnegie Library was like most of those historical beauties sprinkled across America, and the council could have put the gymnasium 200 feet away across the street where the town dump was at the time. Now the town dump is an empty toxic lot full of weeds and the gymnasium looks like most of the gymnasiums that were built in the 1960’s, which is to say it might be due for a tare down.

  110. 2110
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2049 – Well, sometimes you never appreciate what you have until its gone. On a larger scale, you can look at past photos of once proud cities like Detroit and Baltimore and appreciate their once upon a time grandeur.

    I kind of dig Cle Elum, cause of its mining past and funky downtown. But it gets hot as blazes during the summer.

  111. 2111
    wreckingbull says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2047 – Skagit County has shelved plans to grow the county in Bayview and instead is looking to Sedro to handle the growth. I am sure some like this and some don’t, but it is a fact of life that backs your statement, especially as more and more people from King County move to Skagit County.

    Those ‘hicks’ at Janicki sure did a good job of learnin’ themselves in the realm of engineering, tooling, composites, and 5-axis milling. To anyone who has ever flown on a Boeing or Airbus commercial aircraft, I suppose you can thank those Martians.

    They don’t have the Uff Da Shoppe, though, so there is that.

  112. 2112
    N says:

    Any thoughts on West Seattle and bridge impacts. Looking at the April and May Seattle Times monthly real estate data medium sales price went from $705k in April to $649k in May. I realize May sales mostly were April pendings when much was shutdown.

    I’ve heard of many renters moving out and rentals having demand issues. Makes sense that demand would be less as many new buyers will likely look elsewhere but demand was so strong prior that the shift may not make a big difference.

  113. 2113
    wreckingbull says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 2050 – If you want to see something that will blow your mind, check out the Detroit Masonic Temple – especially the interior. Over 1000 rooms.

  114. 2114
    wreckingbull says:

    RE: N @ 2052 – I think that West Seattle might have good buys in a couple years, when traffic is back to full levels, the economy is starting to improve, and commuters who live there are absolutely screwed while they wait for the “Seattle Process” to figure out what kind of bridge/tunnel/vegan transport system they might want to think about possibly building someday in the distant future so long as everyone agrees it is a good idea but not until everyone’s voice has been heard.

    Now would be way too soon in my opinion.

  115. 2115
    Jeff says:

    RE: wreckingbull @ 2051

    Yeah, not many folks realize Sedro-Woolley is somewhat of an aerospace place, where rocket parts and wind mill wings are manufactured. Bill Gates even helicoptered in once to drink a cup of water made from human waste out of the sewage recycling machine being tested at the Janicki plant.

    For those that don’t know, the Janickis are a long time Sedro-Woolley logging family who still run loggin operations in the area. One of their offspring got an engineering degree in the eighties and came back to start a composite machine tool company called Janiki Industries. This could be you someday Erik!

  116. 2116
    Dave says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2034
    You are almost correct except the problem is much, much, much worse than you know. My 12yo girl is completing 6th grade at a rank 10 school. She has had one field trip in the last two years and the amount of material skipped is so materially negligent that I had planned to home school next year even before the pandemic. I went to the principal–>county–>state representative about this and received the same repeated answer. My daughter is in the hicap/advanced placement category which is a low priority at all levels in 2018/2019/2020/2021 all years I’ve been beating on this. What is the priority? Minority and low income, everything else is back burner. My wife and I have career changed to handle the workflow of homeschooling because our daughter is too smart to accommodate and before you wave privilege, we are below the median economic tier so there’s that. Not kidding, this is real life on the edge of King/Snohomish county WA. The bottom has field trips and textbooks while the top has, well, I guess this qualifies as white flight doesn’t it? Once again notice how race is irrelevant and yet it’s not.

  117. 2117
    Blurtman says:

    By wreckingbull @ 2053:

    RE: Blurtman @ 2050 – If you want to see something that will blow your mind, check out the Detroit Masonic Temple – especially the interior. Over 1000 rooms.

    Yowzer! I just did the panoramic tour on the website. The lobby is spectacular!

  118. 2118
    Beano says:

    By Nicole @ 2019:

    RE: Beano @ 2010 – No one wants to actually get rid of police forces. Defunding police is about taking money used for the militarization of police and using that money to bolster communities in other ways: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/05/defunding-the-police-us-what-does-it-mean

    I certainly wouldn’t say no one. Plenty say this and want this.

    The left has a long term problem of lacking influence. I’d go so far as to say, they prefer to be the “opposition” and actually don’t want to ever be in control. They like being the victim.

    If they don’t want to “actually” defund police, then why are they using that word?

    There are many other words and ways to express what you said but they clearly don’t want to express this point clearly. They do want to agitate.

    The left needs to read the book “How to Win Friends and Influence People” because they are absolutely terrible at this. Just arrogant, jack— levels of suck in this area.

  119. 2119
    Jeff says:

    RE: Beano @ 2058

    I’ve read “How to Win Friends and Influence People,” and I’m pretty sure the book wouldn’t recommend uttering the phrase you just did, “Just arrogant, jack— levels of suck in this area,” if your intention is to actually win friends and influence people.

    Can you please cite some examples of some folks who actually want to simply get rid of police forces? It would be helpful if these examples were folks that actually stood a chance of getting taken seriously. You say there are plenty of them, but I’m just not seeing it. Even the Senate Republicans are in discussions to draft police reform, so maybe it’s time you get with the program and refrain from labeling the masses on the left as radicals, when most of the free radicals seem to be in your head.

    Sorry if my comments don’t always use the advice from How to Win Friends, but I still hope we might be friends some day.

  120. 2120
    whatsmyname says:

    Say, while you all are busy separating the white popcorn from the dark popcorn; we’re having the strongest seller’s market ever. Look at the inventory…… in June no less.

  121. 2121
    David says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2059 – Jeff, Jeff, you cannot be a horseman and not ride a horse.

    The time for a move to Baltimore is now. Don’t be some ‘privileged’ white guy who is all hat and no horse.

  122. 2122
    Jeff says:

    RE: David @ 2061

    There you go again with your Baltimore fixation. It seems you are expecting Seattle to become like Baltimore before you move back here, so maybe I’ll move to Seattle which will satisfy your desire for me to live in Baltimore. Besides, if I moved to Baltimore, I could just as easily be accused by contrarian trolls such as yourself of being a gentrifying libtard, so I’m comfortable with being a loser in your eyes no matter what.

    I was born in Western Washington and this is where most of my friends and family are. As an American I can live near where I was born and still feel compassion for other Americans in any other place or circumstance. Heck, I try to feel compassion for folks in any circumstance all over the world. You may say I’m a dreamer.

    If I move away from the Great NW, it will probably be out of the USA, and it would be because folks such as yourself never managed to MAGA and ended up MAWF (Making America Worse Forever). Let’s hope not, as I love this messy little experiment we were born into.

  123. 2123

    Great Comments All….We’re All Changing in this New Paradigm, Its Sink or Swim

    “…Southwest extends free drink perk during pandemic
    Free drink coupons are currently useless on Southwest because the airline has’t resumed alcohol service. ..”

    SWE’s Take: Boeing’s gonna sell MASS Max orders now, planes are offering free Black Label bottles to guzzle, one small inconvenient truth…they don’t serve alcohol… LOL…they should offer free in state “edibles” instead, delicious laced brownies with Zonk fruit cans? MAFA…Make America Fly Again?

    “… Seattle banned tear gas, but then police used it — here’s how that happened
    A protester’s eyes are doused to clear them of pepper spray after Seattle police used it, along with tear gas, on May 30. Mayor Jenny Durkan on Friday announced a ban on “the use of tear gas for 30 days in any of these protests.” But police deployed it a little over two days later, as ambiguity and a loophole undermined the ban. (Photo: Amanda Snyder / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s take: If the City Mayor and State Governor can’t solve local police management control and officer training, who can? The Tooth Fairy?

    “… Protesters poured into Seattle City Hall last night, led by Councilmember Kshama Sawant, and listened to speeches advocating Mayore Jenny Durkan’s removal before settling in for a movie night on Capitol Hill. This came after protesters and the ACLU sued Seattle, blaming Durkan and Police Chief Carmen Best for “unnecessary violence” at demonstrations. Read how the day unfolded and find today’s live updates here…”

    SWE’s Take: This can take years of litigation to untangle before insurance pays off for riot damages to small businesses too? I see many city Police Chief and Mayor heads rolling from the “lay-off” head chopper stand now…private small loans will be needed now to get them back to work? This is not a Killer Flu Stimulus concern either.

    “… State health officials confirmed 313 new COVID-19 cases yesterday. Find today’s live updates here…”

    SWE’s Take: It was 240 cases Monday…30% increase in the daily cases….a slight upturn or another surge? Time will tell.

    “…The pandemic has caused Seattle-area rents to stop zooming up. In West Seattle, the added blow of the bridge closure has made things “absolutely bleak” for landlords. They’re offering special deals and still not filling their units. ..”

    SWE’s Take: Hey Erik are you freezing rents lately too, it may be a good idea if you have a tenant that is paying rent regularly and makes a good steady income? Makes sense to me. West Seattle may replace Auburn for lowest Seattle Area Rents? Near Green River CC, Auburn, the rentals can be scooped up for about 50% of Seattle rents and even 2 bdrm units with pools can be grabbed up under $1100/mo…check it out:

    https://www.rent.com/washington/green-river-community-college/apartments_condos_houses_townhouses_cheap

    Call it a condo, hotel suite, apartment…they’re all about the same; white washed and small.

    “…Class of 2020, welcome to your unexpected ending. Tetiana Mountha, a senior at Seattle’s Cleveland High School, gets a helping hand from her mother as they prepare for a drive-thru celebration with close friends and family. Graduates, families and schools have wrestled with how to preserve some vestiges of this rite of passage, minus all the hugging. (Photo: Alan Berner / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s Take: Have a virtual video graduation booze and legal 21 party….get S/W that can cut web cam views into like 10-20 screens to see all the “graduation” drunks/heads happy together from the cloud [of legal 21 smoke?]…LOL

    “…UW has removed its head dance coach, asked two Black members to rejoin the team and pledged to include diversity in the tryout process. Athletic Director Jen Cohen apologized yesterday “for the hurt that this situation has caused for the students involved.”..”

    SWE’s Take: The U of W women’s athletic director is Racist? We need college dance reform and defunding now too?

    “…Port of Seattle Police Chief Rod Covey has been placed on leave over workplace-misconduct allegations…”

    SWE’s Take: Even the Seattle Port’s Police chief waiting for his turn on the head rolling platform?

    Good News: The “priced out of rentals” average Joe $20/hr incomes [avg 1.2 income per household] can grab up Auburn ones for 50% the cost and plenty of local Auburn job openings too…if the take out food joint help wanted signs everywhere in SE Seattle is an indication…many fast food joints now offer 40 hr weeks and good health insurance for families like Blue Cross for $600/mo too. Check it out.

  124. 2124

    Hire More H-2C Foreign Workers at Food Plants for Like $5/hr? Then deport ’em after they’re useless and get Killer Flu? HORRIFYING Seattle area grocery store prices now, food shortages this Summer?

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB15fEay.img?h=416&w=624&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f

    Its like the “Wuhan Killer Flu Seafood Plant” and better to kill off non-citizens? Then replace them later with more foreign H-2Cs guinea pigs?

  125. 2125

    State Pension Funding for Teachers, Police, etc….

    Butcher axed in about eight years and this was gonna happen without the Killer Flu Pandemic:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/us-public-pensions-run-out-money-2028-finds-alarming-new-study

    Erik, ya asked me where a stable pension plan exists where the young ones pay in….ex out state pensions now…we need the Boeing’s and MSFT’s MAPPA Make America Pay Pensions Again? The pension hopes for the younger workers already have a dead canary in the mine, we need to get this revived again. We all can’t work at the FAA as an engineer…

  126. 2126
    northender says:

    RE: Dave @ 2056
    Do you mind sharing which school district your daughter’s school is in Dave? And have you found a home schooling program you would recommend?

    Thanks

  127. 2127
    Blurtman says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2065 – Clearly those who have managed to save for retirement, for example, via a 401k, can have some of their savings transferred to these pensions, for example, via Congressional legislation. Or it can be done the old-fashioned way -through taxation.

  128. 2128
    David says:

    By Jeff @ 2062:

    RE: David @ 2061

    There you go again with your Baltimore fixation. It seems you are expecting Seattle to become like Baltimore before you move back here, so maybe I’ll move to Seattle which will satisfy your desire for me to live in Baltimore. Besides, if I moved to Baltimore, I could just as easily be accused by contrarian trolls such as yourself of being a gentrifying libtard, so I’m comfortable with being a loser in your eyes no matter what.

    I was born in Western Washington and this is where most of my friends and family are. As an American I can live near where I was born and still feel compassion for other Americans in any other place or circumstance. Heck, I try to feel compassion for folks in any circumstance all over the world. You may say I’m a dreamer.

    If I move away from the Great NW, it will probably be out of the USA, and it would be because folks such as yourself never managed to MAGA and ended up MAWF (Making America Worse Forever). Let’s hope not, as I love this messy little experiment we were born into.

    Here’s Jeff on his first night in Baltimore: https://youtu.be/4Utop2U6Zgo?t=119

  129. 2129
    N says:

    Speaking of West Seattle….

    Most rents in Seattle area stagnate — but drop for cheaper apartments and those in West Seattle

    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/real-estate/most-rents-in-seattle-area-stagnate-but-drop-for-cheaper-apartments-and-those-in-west-seattle/

    “In my 30 years of owning buildings, I’ve never experienced what I’m experiencing in West Seattle,” said landlord Morris Groberman, who owns four buildings in West Seattle and several dozen other apartments across the region. “It’s absolutely bleak.”

    At his West Seattle properties, he’s offering one month of free rent and six months of free parking for new tenants. He has cut rents by 5% at one building, the Nelsonian. At another, the Windhill, he expected to lease two-bedroom units for nearly $2,500 after they were renovated. Instead, they’re fetching $2,050. At the 30-unit Garden Terrace, in the heart of the Alaska Junction, he’s been unable to fill five units vacated in the past three months, he said.

    Other West Seattle tenants are fleeing the neighborhood.

    West Seattle tenant John Cannon, a driver for XPO Logistics, said he sought to break his lease in favor of a new place closer to his Renton office after the bridge closure bloated his one-way commute from 20 to 90 minutes.

  130. 2130
    David says:

    RE: N @ 2069 – Seems like they could stabilize that bridge enough to last 18 months while they build a tunnel.

  131. 2131
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: N @ 2069

    So here’s the thing. If you do King County stats do you exclude West Seattle and do the rest and then show West Seattle separately or will that induce cries of “cherry picking” the stats? I personally don’t like County-wide stats at all. To me they are fairly meaningless if you don’t break it down to the individual markets. Primary vs Secondary vs 3rd and 4th tier. Mixing primary with 4th tier tells me nothing. I always break it down when I’m running them for me and my clients. That causes it’s own problems right now due to low volume though.

  132. 2132
    wreckingbull says:

    RE: David @ 2070 – No can do. They gave an engineering update today. West Seattle is in deep doo doo.

  133. 2133
    Nicole says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2030 – Happy Birthday! And while I was young during those Reagan years, I do remember the de-institutionalizing of the mentally ill and realize what a strain it’s put on police then and since then. I don’t necessarily support defunding the police, just wanted to share the article because it’s been a big issue. Police violence seems to be a symptom of police underfunding, or perhaps underfunding the type of policing that might make for better communities- less military-style weaponry and more community-based policing. But then again, how to protect the police against the type of weaponry available to criminals? I think limiting arms sales, especially military-style guns and ammunition would make everyone safer off.

  134. 2134
    N says:

    @ Nicole – I can’t confirm how valid it is, but one city council candidate during the elections last year stated the current Seattle Police force is the same as it was in the 1970’s despite our population boom. If you look at our police force per capital it ranks quite low.

  135. 2135

    RE: N @ 2074
    Capital Hill Rent Should Be Lower Than West Seattle in No Time Now

    Evidently the Protesters took it over, what police?

    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-take-back-seattle-072330271.html

    Capital Hill, yes, during the 1999 Battle of Seattle it was a “thug” riot battle ground of Seattle Police rubber bullets and tear gas….it hasn’t changed, except this time its not fighting Clinton’s WTO/NWO….its fighting WTO black uniform rioters….reset? LOL

    Seattle is always been an organized crime city, in the 1800s it was Prostitution…check out underground Seattle…we never learn.

    Time for some Starbucks and read the brief:

    “… Welcome to the CHAZ, where protesters gather without Seattle police
    Xander Cannon, 5, and his mother, Falon Sierra, draw rainbows at 11th Avenue and Pine Street yesterday in the newly named Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. Much is free — speech, snacks, movies — in this protest society born from demonstrations that pushed police out of their East Precinct building. Protesters spent last night listening to speakers, dancing and painting a giant message on Pine Street. See how the day unfolded and find today’s live updates here. (Photo: Amanda Snyder / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s take: Hey Erik, Capital Hill looks like a great place to find cheap flippers now. I wonder if tenant parking even exists there now? Put your “vulture” binoculars on….the vultures are already circling the dead real estate area…grab up bargains now?

    “…How the Seattle Police Department uses its money: The city is spending more on police than its general-fund spending, combined, on arts, culture, recreation, health and human services, neighborhoods and development. Details of where the money goes are emerging as the City Council begins a budget “inquest.”…”

    SWE’s Take: One thing is for certain, budgeting for police pensions is a joke now….it was before this riot stuff too…

    “…State health officials confirmed 288 new COVID-19 cases in Washington yesterday as three counties got a green light to move to the next phase of reopening. New cases are climbing in nearly half of U.S. states (you can track the virus’ spread here ). This underscores a painful reality: The pandemic is not ending, it’s surging…”

    SWE’s Take: The second Wash St Killer Flu wave is forming now? We’ll know more later.

    “… Many Americans are still losing their jobs even as businesses reopen, new figures out this morning show…”

    SWE’s Take: We’ll know more later. Profit margins were slim indeed for this business model before restrictions on customer numbers and bankruptcies [Mitzels in Kent] are visible already…the Stimulus unemployment extension is running out too. Hey Erik, start up a Bob’s Burgers at Alki?

    “… Alaska Air will cut as many as 3,000 jobs as it struggles to bring passengers back. One glimpse of the daunting challenges airlines face: just how slowly travelers are returning to Sea-Tac Airport. When they get where they’re going, the hotel may look like a different world….”

    SWE’s Take: Sounds like about 1K “butcher axed” from Seattle’s Alaskan 6700 employees in the city.

    “…Young people are turning out to protest. Will they vote? They could make a difference in the presidential race, but their participation is far from a sure bet…”

    SWE’s Take: About half of DNC are Bernie supporters and didn’t like Hillary for the same reasons they don’t like Biden…they need a 3rd party candidate. If you’re a Baby Boomer, how many of your Milenial Kids vote? 20%? 0%…I asked the parents and “they don’t know either”…..LOL….My kids vote now, but I had to tease them into “then shut your mouths” if you’re not gonna vote…LOL

    “…Books for kids and teens about race, racism and police violence
    As a Black woman, I can’t ever stop thinking about racism. It’s not a choice; it’s my reality.
    Listening to Black voices: 6 audiobooks to learn from amid protests against police brutality in Seattle and across the country…”

    SWE’s Take: Reading Civil Rights books like “to Kill a Mockingbird” may seem politically correct, but have you read it? Its grade D literature, boring as Hades….the kids will throw it down and put their Looney Tunes back on TV, I would too…LOL…try MAD magazine, at least its makes ya laugh. I’m reading “The Sum of All Fears” a 800 pg 1992 Tom Clancy “best seller” novel and it sure explains why Progressives and Israel are still at each other’s throats since the Russian Cold war ended in the 80s…LOL…history rarely changes much too. Much better read IMO. Germany wasn’t paying its fair share of NATO to protect them from Russia then either and yet, still buying Russian natural gas anyway…

    “…How did the state get duped by a massive unemployment-fraud scheme? Washington state’s auditor will investigate that, as well as the agency’s ongoing delays in paying claims to thousands of jobless workers. If the scammers used your name, here’s what to do…”

    SWE’s Take: Don’t worry, the State’s Unemployment IOUs are good as gold and come with 1.5% interest too…you’ll get paid in a few decades from now..LOL…Oh BTW, The scammers stole my personal ID from Oregon’s Premera Blue Cross data bases, it took a few years, but I won a Class Action lawsuit and it came with $13/mo ID protection for two years…good things come to those that wait..LOL

    “…Coming soon to a theater — er, living room — near you: Our critic recommends the artful drama “Shirley,” and a documentary that follows Michelle Obama….”

    SWE’s Take: Who’s the International Hollywood female actor that plays Michelle? Someone cheap and inexperienced I assume..try a classic movie [like Gone With the Wind with good experienced actors]…ooops, HBO is cancelling that one, its Racist?

    “… The freighter Chavez in 1978 rams the West Seattle Bridge over the Duwamish West Waterway, closing it to automobile traffic for the next six years. Ship pilot Rolf Neslund, 80, strikes the east end of the bridge just before dawn. He retires two weeks after the accident and is later found negligent by the Coast Guard. (Neslund is slain by his wife on Lopez Island in 1980.) A new, high-level bridge is dedicated in 1984, but is closed in March 2020 due to worsening cracks…”

    SWE’s Take: They should have blew it up then and started over building an entire new one…LOL

    Good News: Dukes is selling $16 cups of chowder and $20 fish and chips with $10 a mug Bud to wash it all down…be the first indoor customer in Dukes today and enjoy the crammed tight “Killer Flu” tables inside…its Seattle, we’re all Uber Rich here…LOL

  136. 2136
    Blurtman says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2075 – “About half of DNC are Bernie supporters and didn’t like Hillary for the same reasons they don’t like Biden…they need a 3rd party candidate.”

    C’est moi, frère. I voted for Jill Stein last time.

  137. 2137

    RE: Blurtman @ 2076
    I’m With You Blurtman

    I voted Perot, Nader or not all too given the NWO puppet choices the establishment gave us the last 3 decades…I vote my pocketbook too, we all should. No one else will. Not all Stimulus Money needs to go to the banksters…I liked Clinton in the early 90s and grew to hate him by the time he orchestrated the 1999 WTO bent battle of Seattle rubber bullets and tear gas with HOARDS of Seattle Police in “Robocop” horror movie uniforms…the fun goes on and on…

  138. 2138
    DavidE says:

    Seattle “Autonomous Zone” Now Has A “Heavily-Armed” Warlord; Governor Clueless
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/seattle-autonomous-zone-now-has-heavily-armed-warlord-governor-clueless

    Trump says domestic terrorists have taken over Seattle. Time to buy more condos Erik.

  139. 2139
    David says:

    RE: DavidE @ 2078 – Inslee visits Seattle. Takes a knee – promptly hears several trowsers unzip.

  140. 2140
    DavidE says:

    By David @ 2079:

    RE: DavidE @ 2078 – Inslee visits Seattle. Takes a knee – promptly hears several trowsers unzip.

    Imagine if this lawlessness spirals out of control and no one will feel safe to work in Seattle. Farewell the Seattle Housing Bubble.

  141. 2141
    David says:

    RE: DavidE @ 2080 – Yes, unfortunately, Trump should take a lesson from Saul Alinsky and hold Seattle to its own rules.

    Let the place burn – flat to the ground.

    I actually helped the police by feeding them intel on a multiple murder suspect about 2 years ago that lived close to me (at that time). It was eye opening to me that they would then take the weekends off followed by one or two weeks off for a holiday. Meanwhile, Somali-killer was out and about wearing his red shoes and hoodie like it was just his thing.

  142. 2142
    Blurtman says:

    RE: DavidE @ 2078 – And a new vice presidential candidate emerges.

  143. 2143
    sfrz says:

    $2250 for a fully furnished (aka AIRbnb) 354 sq.ft condo (aka closet) WTH?
    AND, they are throwing in new chicken! For that price, that chicken better be Ezell’s, and not Popeye’s. I might ask $30k for my 10 year old Prius. I’ll just have to find a sucka to bite.

    “Enjoying water front living in the heart of Madison park. Beautiful luxury style fully furnished studio offering views of Lake Washington, Madison park & Madison beach. New chicken with new hard wood floor, new carpet on living area.new bathroom with modern hard wood floor.Amazing location, just steps away to bus stop #11,cafes,shops,restaurant and parks and East commute to downtown or Bellevue. Unit comes with access to building private dock and storage.”

    https://hotpads.com/1810-43rd-ave-e-seattle-wa-98112-sm0z96/b202/pad?border=false&lat=47.6361&lon=-122.2951&maxCreated=24&z=14

  144. 2144
    Justme says:

    RE: sfrz @ 2083

    Gee golly, at least that 354 ft2 gem is NOT in the Capital Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ).

    But why no interior photos? So small the photographer cannot get inside?

  145. 2145
    sfrz says:

    RE: Justme @ 2084 – Right? Why no photos of that fully furnished closet?

  146. 2146
    Eastsider says:

    RE: sfrz @ 2085 – 354 sq.ft is about the size of a hotel room. Big enough to have a bed, desk, nightstand, tv, mini fridge, and a bathroom. No kitchen. No sofa. No dining table. Move in with up to 2 suitcases of personal belongings. LOL.

  147. 2147
    sfrz says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 2086 – “New chicken with new hard wood floor, new carpet on living area.new bathroom with modern hard wood floor.”
    2 -3 planks of faux wood and a few feet of carpet. Bawk bawk! Feed him before sunrise, or he’ll wake the neighbs.

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    sfrz says:

    Here’s one. 50″ TV and “we got the WiFi covered” (aka- PLEASE HELP US. Our plans to become a mini Hyatt chain didn’t work out)
    They don’t even try to hide the folding luggage rack, and the Kurig with plenty of K-cups. Desperate times for the AirBNB mini empire builders, that sucked all those easy Yellen bucks up like a Hoover.

    17043 NE 38th Pl #B $1895 1b/1b 690 sq ft.
    “Nestled in a quiet neighborhood down the street from Microsoft and up the street from Lake Sammamish, this modern, fully-furnished private suite is ideal for quiet evenings in the middle of the city . Proximity to the hottest metropolitan scenes: Seattle, Bellevue, Redmond, and Kirkland. Enjoy fresh Northwest air while eating breakfast on your own patio, by the end of the day you’re watching your favorite shows on a 50″ TV. Don’t worry, we’ve got the WiFi covered!”
    https://hotpads.com/17043-ne-38th-pl-bellevue-wa-98008-1n47s09/b/pad?border=false&lat=47.6419&lon=-122.1066&maxCreated=24&z=14

  149. 2149

    LOL….At Least the Seattle Bubbleheads can Agree on Something…this CHAZ thing is a RE mess:

    “…The zone, which includes apartment buildings and businesses, also contains the Seattle Police Department’s East Precinct, which cops abandoned on Monday after receiving a threat that the station would be overrun and burned down. ..”

    How many apartment buildings in the 6 block area and are the tenants forced to leave now that the Occupation Warlord Leader [heavily armed BTW] took over the apartments and evicted all the tenants?

    https://republicanfreedom.com/2020/06/12/seattle-autonomous-zone-now-has-a-heavily-armed-warlord-trump-dunks-on-clueless-governor/

    I’m sorry this apartment listing data from CHAZ came from a Republican website, I usually avoid partisan websites; in this case where else is the RE data? Any of you have old virtual tours of the “Armed Warlord’s Occupation apartments” [homes too??] and were the tenants thrown out of their homes? I need information and it isn’t coming from Seattle City or State Government sources…LOL…how’s a flipper to survive with these “Warlord Blockades in Place”, we aren’t told anything about these future investments.

    Drive down the road, the closed Starbucks at CHAZ has a Seattle Center alternative now, grab your mug with your nervous/shaky hand and read the brief:

    “… The new dining out: It’s not the restaurant that’s the risk — it’s the other customers
    Things seem nearly normal at Ivar’s Salmon House on Lake Union, until you look closely. This is what it’s like to visit a restaurant as King County eases back open. As customers wrestle with whether that visit is a good idea, the county’s head of food safety shares his three-pronged approach to staying safe(r) if you go. Here are more resources to help you navigate the pandemic, from COVID-19 testing locations to what you can and can’t do in each county. (Photo: Ken Lambert / The Seattle Times)…”

    SWE’s take: I’m chicken to go to a restaurant and bars where cloth scarves replace N95 flu masks and germs get sprayed on the food from cook and waitress contamination. No…I’ll just cook my WINCO stocks myself in my own house. Most people think like me BTW.

    “… Why are Washington state’s coronavirus cases rising again? The answers depend on where you look, health officials say as some regions see big spikes. A UW model suggests a second wave of infections could start in September. Resurgences already have some leaders clamping down: Oregon has paused its reopening, and a Southwest Washington county hit the brakes, too. Find the latest county-by-county numbers and today’s live updates here.
    How Washington schools could look in the fall: Educators are raising concerns after Washington’s schools chief said he expects districts to return to in-person learning, as long as health guidelines allow that. The plan he laid out wouldn’t be school as usual, though.
    King County Metro will cut bus service 15% from its pre-coronavirus levels and start charging fares again. Here’s how key routes will be affected.
    The state’s coronavirus recovery plan would include new taxes on capital gains and big employers, under a proposal from Rep. Frank Chopp of Seattle. Here’s where the $2 billion would go…”

    SWE’s Take: The fun goes on and on now, the Killer flu 2nd feature that Netflix is streaming is about to start at a laptop near you? When Phoenix Computer Based College is hailed as the next Yale, ya know we’re heading down the intellectual toilet, hopelessly too. Would you sit in those cramped Metro buses with Killer flu breath down your neck…I wouldn’t either. Then the cherry on the sundae…more Seattle MASS taxes on Seattle job providers, just the $2B needed? This is a mess.

    “…UW will stop requiring applicants to submit SAT and ACT scores. “We’re absolutely at the watershed moment” as more and more colleges drop the tests, one UW official says…”

    SWE’s take: U of W has become a subpar 3rd world country college now? Why do we need H-1B college educated when it doesn’t matter? It all floats downstream now?

    “…Business is booming for private security guards. Seattle-area businesses are increasingly hiring them amid pandemic shutdowns and protests. A big part of the lure: the promise of a quicker response than police. The job can get tense in a hurry…”

    SWE’s take: A bright spot for Seattle’s economy now?

    Good News: This week’s over, the looting smoke and glass is cleaned up with the new shopper windows installed…plywood…LOL

    “…

  150. 2150
    David says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2089 – I will say that when I go to China – I’ve seen almost ZERO law enforcement.

    I have in Hong Kong, but not elsewhere.

  151. 2151

    RE: David @ 2090
    Yeah…This News Came From Florida This Morning:

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/stupid/goodwill-brawlers-298597

    The Good will stores need police bad too as tempers flair into a brawl over “apparently innocuous” one way safety measures in stores’ hallways to control Killer Flu…where’s Waldo? The police?

    The whole country is at each others’ throats now? Now is the time to defund it?

  152. 2152

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  153. 2153
    Justme says:

    A report from Seattle PI in Washington. “The median home price for closed sales in King County dropped month over month, from $650,000 to $627,000. ‘I don’t think anyone should be surprised that home prices in King County took a ‘breather’ in May,’ said Matthew Gardner, chief economist at Windermere Real Estate. ‘Clearly COVID-19 was the cause for this drop, but I’m confident this is a temporary situation that will be reversed as King County starts to reopen, and fresher inventory comes to market.’”

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/seattle-area-housing-market-proves-resilient-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-but-inventory-remains-low/ar-BB15g93J

    My, my: Inventory is down. But somehow prices are down, too, both compared with previous month, AND compared with last year. That’s UNPOSSIBLE. Everyone knows that.

  154. 2154

    I’m Switching to McDonalds Coffee from Starbucks Now

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/starbucks-dress-code-and-plans-to-create-250000-shirts-speaking-out-again-systemic-racism-133106893.html

    The CHAZ warlords run Starbucks business dress code policy now too? LOL…the Warlords collect “protection money” too from the scared Snow Flakes with no backbones…??

  155. 2155
    David says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2094 – Have not been to a Starbucks in many years.

    Their culture is terrible and so is their coffee.

    I’m surrounded by new construction underway here.

  156. 2156
    sfrz says:

    RE: Justme @ 2093 – “took a breather” Stealtor code for CR8TR. He talks so much crap. Just like a used car salesman. You- “What about those rebuilt head gaskets?” – Con Artist- “Hey, check out those treads!”
    Everything is AWESOME! It’s just temporary! Come on! Just sign right here, and here, and here. Now, I gotta skee-daddle! See ya!

  157. 2157
    sfrz says:

    Somebody went a lil’ crazy with the millennial gray. Sweet Jeebuz. They gray puked this entire home. YIKES. That’ll age well, like Mrs. Marriott’s burnt orange and avocado green. (It was her FAV color scheme)

    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/7515-17th-Ave-NW-98117/home/166785
    $885k 3b/2ba 2060 sq ft

  158. 2158
    sfrz says:

    ONLY 8,790 to go! Shedding those mini hotels like snake skins.
    This whole story is a tearjerker. Get your Kleenex handy. Their mini empire dream is dying, along with their bank account. But, they will share their dream with you. Maybe you can do what they could not. You, too, can become a mini Marriott empire. Throw the dice! (no mention of the furniture. Craigslist quick cash?)

    I bet there are some sweaty armpits. 35 days and counting.

    “Time-honored bungalow smack dab in the heart of Queen Anne. Top to bottom interior renovation. Up to the minute cabinetry, appliances, tile, and hardwoods. Relaxing hot tub in private fenced yard with blooming roses and the floating scent of lilac. Basement works as a bedroom or bonus room, separate entrance and an opportunity to add more finished square footage. Keep the house as a thriving Airbnb or call it home.”
    $950k 3b/1ba 1290 sq ft https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/315-W-Garfield-St-98119/home/134872

  159. 2159
    Blurtman says:

    RE: sfrz @ 2098 – A 12% yearly return from the 2015 $617,000 purchase price for this tiny home at $736/sq.ft? And with taxes going up as well, due to the reduced tax revenue and Suzi’s incompetence and upcoming raise? I think not!

  160. 2160
    Intsokzen says:

    Question….. How safe is it to walk around Capitol Hill (specifically north of E John) at night in the pitch dark on a daily basis? 20 minute walk from work to possible home? Reasonable? Or would I likely find myself driving anyway because of sketchy characters?

  161. 2161
    Brianna says:

    RE: Intsokzen @ 2100

    Why would you not be safe? The media and the Seattle mayor tells us they are all peaceful protesters, having a huge block party. 🙄

  162. 2162
    Dave says:

    By northender @ 2066:

    RE: Dave @ 2056
    Do you mind sharing which school district your daughter’s school is in Dave? And have you found a home schooling program you would recommend?

    Thanks

    1. Best of Shoreline district AND best of Edmonds district., even tried the cool experimental schools. [locals will get that, if you don’t know then do your own research].
    2. There are two ways to legally homeschool in Washington state in 2020; under the Home-Based Instruction Law or under a private school extension program. My wife’s graduate degree affords compliance with WA state law for home based instruction so until we can find better we’re exploring that route; https://www.k12.wa.us/student-success/learning-alternatives/home-based-instruction

    My worst career nightmare is being forced to do work I admittedly suck at and be paid nothing for the effort. I guess we all have to face tough challenges these days, so be it.

  163. 2163
    OA says:

    By Brianna @ 2101:

    RE: Intsokzen @ 2100

    Why would you not be safe? The media and the Seattle mayor tells us they are all peaceful protesters, having a huge block party. 🙄

    It’s embarrassing to see Seattle leadership fail so majorly. Just incredible to see all of this. Can’t believe what I’m seeing.

  164. 2164
    Brianna says:

    RE: OA @ 2103

    Yes, you are right – a disgusting embarrassment! The Seattle mayor and the state governor should both be recalled, as well as city council member Kashama Sawant.

  165. 2165
    David says:

    RE: Brianna @ 2104 – Imagine sweating it out at work to pay the mortgage, with all the slings and arrows of work-life, only to go home and have to answer questions from some punk with an AR-15 as to whether you’re allowed to pass.

    I’ve created a sign in my front yard:

    “What Will Happen
    When you Kneel
    And They Unzip”

    Why are people in Seattle paying taxes to fund their oppressors?

  166. 2166
    Beano says:

    By David @ 2070:

    RE: N @ 2069 – Seems like they could stabilize that bridge enough to last 18 months while they build a tunnel.

    I wouldn’t be shocked if the city is using a very liberal interpretation of structural damage to close this. They absolutely love to close roads and force people to public transit.

    It’s too perfect

  167. 2167
    Ardell DellaLoggia says:

    RE: Dave @ 2102

    I had similar issues with one of my daughters and my sister also had those issues. Going back decades here. Too smart for school can be a problem.

    My grandchildren all did full or part home school through a Da Vinci program in L.A. Not sure if the DaVinci Academy here is the some as there.

    My youngest grandchildren were fully home schooled using a different support program until they moved up to Fair Oaks to go to the Waldorf School there that has a farm on the premises. All have had integrated real world educations as do two of my son in laws who were home schooled or did Waldorf up in Sonoma. Not sure if your “even tried cool experimental schools” included the real world schools and Waldorf here.

    Home Schooling gets more difficult when the child is extremely bright after a certain age. I think for my Savvy it was 10ish. Then she switched to Waldorf.

  168. 2168
    Justme says:

    RE: David @ 2105

    It’s kinda funny when the right-wingers describe Seattle protesters as warlords, but having nothing bad to say about white supremacists with AR-15 rifles besieging the state legislature in Michigan. They are just peaceful demonstrators, don’t you see?

    >>have to answer questions from some punk with an AR-15 as to whether you’re allowed to pass.

    Did that really happen on Capitol Hill, or are you just fantasizing? Yeah, I thought so. If the facts are not “good enough” to sustain your misguided narrative, hey, why not just make shit up? It’s for a good cause (yes, SARC).

  169. 2169
    Jeff says:

    RE: Justme @ 2108

    You don’t have to look so far as Michigan to contrast what’s happening on Capitol Hill. Don’t forget that the town of Snohomish recently had a bunch of hillbilly punks with AR’s and confederate flags questioning folks as to whether they should pass.

  170. 2170

    CHAZ Doesn’t Exist Inslee Alleges

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/10/washington-governor-inslee-doesnt-know-about-occupied-seattle-encampment/comment-page-2/

    Now we can breath of breath of relief, Trump made up CHAZ with his horrifying Twitters…

    We can breath better now, CHAZ is just more “White Nationalist” Fake News, grab your CCIO iced coffee from Wendys and read the brief:

    “…Reading can make us better and stronger. Here are 20 books that can help you learn about Black history, racism and social justice. Read more…”

    SWE’s Take: Read best selling author and quality literature Anne Rice’s 1979 “Feast of the Saints”….it has great Black History from New Orleans in the early 1800s. Hades, the French and African Americans competed with cotton slavery then and the African Americans were MUCH better at running the cotton factories/farms as freeman masters of the businesses than the French…LOL…the schools didn’t have this in their History Books either.

    “…Why do white people seem to be changing their minds, suddenly, on the justice system and race? Columnist Danny Westneat looks at the titanic forces at work. Read more…”

    SWE’s take: Biden too? Last I heard he was against defunding the police.

    Good News: Its Saturday and the Bubbleheads have their RVs packed to staycation in the 50 degree wet Monsoons this weekend, bring your parkas and umbrellas with rain ponchos…the fun goes on and on…LOL…cook your cheap 80% fat $7/lb burgers at the mud camp grounds wet fires and wash it down with plenty of Black Label…LOL

  171. 2171

    No Wonder the Gen-Zs and Milenials Are Nervous Wrecks Lately

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-health-sex-idUSKBN23J2LI

    I would be too…LOL

  172. 2172
    Blurtman says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2111 – Yet another evil boomer plot.

  173. 2173
    David says:

    By Justme @ 2108:

    RE: David @ 2105

    It’s kinda funny when the right-wingers describe Seattle protesters as warlords, but having nothing bad to say about white supremacists with AR-15 rifles besieging the state legislature in Michigan. They are just peaceful demonstrators, don’t you see?

    >>have to answer questions from some punk with an AR-15 as to whether you’re allowed to pass.

    Did that really happen on Capitol Hill, or are you just fantasizing? Yeah, I thought so. If the facts are not “good enough” to sustain your misguided narrative, hey, why not just make shit up? It’s for a good cause (yes, SARC).

    You might have noticed the MI armed protesters DID NOT riot, loot, beat-up or attack anyone. Nor did they take over the capitol.

    Your ability to analyze is quite limited and should be left to experts.

  174. 2174
    David says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2111 – I woke up early this morning and watched Elon Musk’s launch. What a light show.

    Musk has 6 children with his first wife and knocked up a second just recently. He apparently has No intention of marrying the second one.

    The article says ‘women’ have had no noticeable decrease in sexual activity. So that means there is a class of women who don’t mind being the ‘knocked-up’ variety. Bon Appetit!

    Or as they say in the city – “I did a hit and run: fake name, fake number. One and done.” Then social justice warriors will wonder why single mothers are so poor. (ans. = poor life choices)

  175. 2175

    Defund Police Political Agenda is Like Trusting “Jim Jones” Koolaid for an Election Win in 2020

    “…Top national Democrats are working feverishly to tamp down calls from party members to defund the police, not because they disagree with the concept, but because it’s a loser politically and they know it…”

    https://pjmedia.com/election/rick-moran/2020/06/09/is-democrats-support-for-defund-the-police-a-winning-campaign-issue-n512152

    No brief this morning, but drink your Wendy’s iced CCIOs with vanilla or chocolate and check out today’s miscellaneous new news on RE price predictions:

    “…Two main explanations. One is that there is a minority of women who are having a lot of sex and they aren’t being asked to participate in the studies (e.g. sex workers) (1). The more common explanation is gender bias in reporting ( 1, 2, 3). I recall a paper that found men and women used different definitions of sex when counting partners, but I don’t have the citation on hand…”

    SWE’s Take: Lord only knows Dave…but marriage rates have dropped drastically and that means so have meaningful/lasting relationships. I see a lot of younger women [and men too] here at Glenbrook living with mom and dad “single” until they’re like 40 [then they just disappear]; and many single younger moms with kids living with parents too [their parents talk to me and are not liking multi-generational home packing at all]. The parents without partners is high with single women and these younger moms aren’t looking for a repeat on failure as dad forsakes the family. I know…they approach me with their kids and love it because I like kids and talk to their families. I sense loneliness, IMO.

    Good News: Grand Parents should save a college fund for a house for their kids instead? At least they can live somewhere besides “crammed” your house with or without grandkids.

  176. 2176

    RE: David @ 2114
    Yeah…Bezo from AMZ got half his wealth stolen from a divorce too

    Does anyone know if per-nuptials work at all? IMO, they don’t….it all depends on the divorce judge inclination on community property rights and in Wash St; if your the father with a “fat cat income” you’re doomed…LOL…ask ’em.

    Last I heard, Kindercare goes for about $3-400/wk for an infant/toddler so you can work. That strips about half your net pay from $15-20/hr service sector jobs…the daycare tax exemption helps with part of the expense, but most of it hits your checkbook and drastically reduces your rent paying ability.

  177. 2177

    Killer Flu Quarantines, Depressions and Joblessness Driving 50% of us Out of Seattle now?

    “…In Boston, San Francisco and Seattle the share that would move elsewhere was a bit above 50 percent…”

    https://therealdeal.com/2020/05/19/trd-insights-work-from-home-could-empty-expensive-cities/

    The hand writing is on the wall folks.

  178. 2178

    The Brief Just came:

    “…• Reopening phases in Washington state: When you can get a haircut, go to the gym, or eat at restaurants as coronavirus lockdowns are lifted..”

    SWE’s Take: My hair stylist shop is still closed, I have a twice rescheduled appointment to 3 July 2020….I’m sure there’s confusion, fear and the recent surge in Killer Flu cases doesn’t help either. We’re winging it IOWs. Inslee’s rule of law….if I pretend not see it, its OK…LOL

    I like Trump, so I hope the CHAZ mess is unsolved by 2020 election…imagine the Trump commercial photo-ops of CHAZ all year long….LOL…the fun goes on and on….I see they just throw their garbage in a big pile…sounds like smell, rats and diseases to me. Sounds like the homeless smelly parts of SF already….great Trump photo-op commercials to horrify the Snow Flakes…LOL

    Are the apartment dwellers in CHAZ allowed in and out privileges or was their apartments confiscated? They zip their mouths.

  179. 2179
    Blurtman says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2118 – Ponytail, bro. Let that freak flag fly!

  180. 2180
    Justme says:

    RE: David @ 2105

    >>only to go home and have to answer questions from some punk with an AR-15 as to whether you’re allowed to pass.

    That didn’t happen, at least not on Capitol Hill. Fox News published several fake photos made by someone photoshop-ing together completely disparate scenes and events. Seattletimes have an article debunking the photos.

    When the truth is not good enough to prove a point, some people will create lies. .

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/

  181. 2181
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  183. 2183
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Justme @ 2120 – Yes, it’s the Summer of Love, but with (Build Those) walls.

  184. 2184
    Erik says:

    Does everyone agree we are in a bubble? Markets are going up and economy is going down. Can we all agree this one time?

  185. 2185
    David says:

    By sfrz @ 2122:

    Very peaceful at #CHOP #CHAZ today. https://twitter.com/drinkYourOJ/status/1272275520424534017

    Once the first butt-rape happens and some white girl needs the police, it will all change. Hello 911 !!!

    The criminal element will move in or blossom in place.

  186. 2186
    David says:

    By Erik @ 2124:

    Does everyone agree we are in a bubble? Markets are going up and economy is going down. Can we all agree this one time?

    Kind of hard to say with West Seattle less appealing. Seems like this would really help other areas.

    Cept now Capitol Hill will be the butt-rape capitol.

  187. 2187
    David says:

    I guarantee the CHAZ areas of the US will eventually get stopped in their tracks. Esp Atlanta. Here is a gang trial I was involved in. The news couldn’t even tell people what the trial was all about because it was so bad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8LYJvC2FbE

  188. 2188
    OA says:

    RE: sfrz @ 2122

    “Peaceful” until things start to escalate quickly. Had a few friends go there yesterday evening, they witnessed a guy that got jumped by literally a mob of people. Reason? He was playing worship songs on his speaker and they didn’t like it. One of my friends asked them to leave him alone as he wasn’t doing anything wrong. And that’s when they started to surround him as well and threatened him, so he left right away.

    Yes it’s not as bad as Fox News claims it to be, and no it’s not as innocent and peaceful as the left wing media states. We should all agree that this isn’t good at all for both our city and our country. The longer this lasts the worse it’s going to get when SPD tries to take back the area. I don’t see any good that can come out of this. Their demands are ridiculous.

    Imagine someone breaks into YOUR home and kicks you out. You wouldn’t go around your neighborhood saying “yeah it sucks, but you know, they’re so peaceful in there.” Cmon.

  189. 2189
    Dave says:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2107
    Thank you Ardell, because too many know my daughter and we live in a vicious attack culture, I cannot explain further how few viable advanced preK through12 public school or private montessori, waldorf, etc, school options are available here. Since it will be a few years minimum before sars-cov-2 is under control, part time grade school looks a lot less attractive than full time little house on the prairie with international VR field trip level homeschooling. Yea, former students of mine abroad jumped at the opportunity to help me turn the old daddy day care into daddy vr college high. ‘my coursework approval would go through local WA community colleges so that joke is literally funny.’

  190. 2190
    Juststoppedby says:

    RE: OA @ 2128

    But wait, I thought CHAZ was all about free speech??

    And David, what is with your fascination with genitals and “butt rape”? I’m thinking some counseling wouldn’t be out of line. Yeesh…

  191. 2191
    justsomedude12 says:

    The people in the CHAZ are adorable.

    Like the kid that runs away to the treehouse in their back yard so they don’t have to live under the tyranny of their parents. Meanwhile, their Mother brings meals out to them and they periodically come back into the house to use the bathroom, etc…

  192. 2192
    ruxpert says:

    Something Strange Is Happening in Seattle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spPOHJe4iTk

    ==/
    The Great Reset Plan Revealed: How COVID Ushers In The New World Order
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pzXrEBqR0

  193. 2193
    ruxpert says:

    German Official Leaks Report Denouncing Corona as ‘A Global False Alarm’
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/29/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-global-false-alarm/

    ==/

    This Is #TheGreatReset. You Have Been Warned. #NewWorldNextWeek
    https://youtu.be/8lh-HGcXE1Q

  194. 2194
    Juststoppedby says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 2133

    Excellent, now just tell the family members of the deceased that they have nothing to worry about!

  195. 2195
    OA says:

    By justsomedude12 @ 2131:

    The people in the CHAZ are adorable.

    Like the kid that runs away to the treehouse in their back yard so they don’t have to live under the tyranny of their parents. Meanwhile, their Mother brings meals out to them and they periodically come back into the house to use the bathroom, etc…

    Hahaha this is a great analogy!

  196. 2196
    Eastsider says:

    How is this legal? If they were peaceful “white supremacists”, would anyone tolerate it for even one day? They just destroyed property values in that neighborhood and probably the whole city of Seattle.

    Capitol Hill resident Joseph Suttner, who lives within the Autonomous Zone, told Seattle’s Morning News that he had to get a piece of paper for his dashboard to be allowed to drive through the car-free streets to get to his parking garage.

    https://mynorthwest.com/1942226/chaz-armed-guards/

  197. 2197
    Jeff says:

    By Dave @ 2129:

    RE: Ardell DellaLoggia @ 2107
    Thank you Ardell, because too many know my daughter and we live in a vicious attack culture, I cannot explain further how few viable advanced preK through12 public school or private montessori, waldorf, etc, school options are available here. Since it will be a few years minimum before sars-cov-2 is under control, part time grade school looks a lot less attractive than full time little house on the prairie with international VR field trip level homeschooling. Yea, former students of mine abroad jumped at the opportunity to help me turn the old daddy day care into daddy vr college high. ‘my coursework approval would go through local WA community colleges so that joke is literally funny.’

    Have you ever watched the movie “Parenthood” with Steve Martin? This is an excellent film that I would recommend for anyone who is a parent or thinking about being one. Dave, something tells me you could learn a lot from the character played by Rick Moranis, the overzealous homeschooler. I say this because I relate to this character a bit myself.

  198. 2198
    David says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 2136 – We’ve got a new marina wrapping up construction here.

    Welcome to MAZ: Margarita Autonomous Zone

    It’s hot and bright in Florida now. You dress in all black and you autonomously explode.

  199. 2199

    Hey…the Thong Bikini Baristas 104TH Kent Make Great Hot Coffee too, but one catch, lots of religious folks believe ya can’t be Christian and married and looking [you must pluck your eye out per the Bible?] is adultery, so Single SWE can get his Bikini Barista Mug and look and you married folks can go to dull Wendy’s for CCIOs instead? LOL…now read the brief:

    “… In Seattle, a giant question: ‘What do we want our police to do?’
    Protesters are demanding that Seattle cut its police budget in half. But what would happen to many of the services the police provide now? It’s crucial to have a frank discussion about the role police should play, academics and officials say. It’s also important to understand how we got here, with Seattle’s police budget swelling by more than $100 million over the last five years. As Chief Carmen Best talks about how policing must change radically, and community leaders discuss what that should look like, some changes are already underway. Columnist Naomi Ishisaka writes that tinkering isn’t enough: Our region’s police need deep transformation. (Photo: Amanda Snyder / The Seattle Times)..”

    SWE’s take: Will I vote for defunding police when Seattle Crime is off the Richtor Scale Using 2018 data? Hades no.

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Seattle-Washington.html

    The 2020 data is MUCH higher I assume….

    “… Seattle’s protest zone is evolving, and artists have made their mark on a giant street mural. The community in this stretch of six blocks — known first as CHAZ, now as CHOP — is trying to create its own narrative amid much swirl (which included Fox News apologizing for its digitally altered and misleading photos of the zone). See video of the mural from overhead and read today’s live updates…”

    SWE’s Take: Who pumps out almost all Fake News? CNN or FOX? CHAZ is Now CHOP….like chop off your property rights?

    “…The former Macy’s store at Redmond Town Center has a new tenant: Amazon. Cloud-computing software engineers will fill the 111,000-square-foot building, signaling the company continues to see a future with large numbers of workers gathering in offices…”

    SWE’s Take:

    https://www.geekwire.com/2020/cloud-wars-amazon-web-services-open-new-office-just-road-microsoft-hq/

    Software Engineers [600] hired in Redmond by Amazon? Try high school graduates with 5-10 years on the job S/W IT experience not from a college. They need more foreign H-1Bs now? LOL

    “…With state revenues plunging, Gov. Inslee must cancel state employee raises taking effect in July. This would demonstrate he and the Legislature are realistically confronting the state’s fiscal crisis, prioritizing the needs of all Washingtonians and not clinging to a circa 2018 mindset, writes The Seattle Times editorial board…”

    SWE’s take: Cancel the Washington National Guard budget you refuse to use at CHOP.

    Good News: The CHOP Photo Ops by the 2020 Trump campaign ads should get Trump re-elected slam-dunk now…LOL

  200. 2200
    Dave says:

    RE: Jeff @ 2137
    Yea, Ghostbusters was my favorite back in 1984 so sure, why not.

    I’ll come back in a few years and check in so I’ll leave y’all with the upcoming counter-wave of conservative bikers that may come to visit. Honestly, I hope they come, it would be glorious.
    https://welovetrump.com/2020/06/13/bikers-for-trump-planning-to-retake-seattle-on-july-4th/

  201. 2201
    ruxpert says:

    Seattle || Cultural Revolution
    https://youtu.be/aEWjQOnrZRg
    ==
    guest: Rosa Koire – retired forensic commercial real estate advisor
    What Is The Real Agenda Behind The Effort To Defund & Dismantle The Police?
    https://youtu.be/EGA18p_XerE

  202. 2202
  203. 2203
    ruxpert says:

    RE: Juststoppedby @ 2134

    The New York Problem
    4.5% of the population, 30% of the deaths
    What happened and why is no one asking?
    https://www.brasscheck.com/video/the-new-york-problem/
    ===
    The 800 pound gorilla they’ve been hiding in plain site
    How did every news outlet on the planet miss this?
    https://www.brasscheck.com/video/the-800-pound-gorilla-theyve-been-hiding-in-plain-site/

  204. 2204
    sfrz says:

    I hope this speculative scum goes down in flames. With the Central Bank speculative lending, the housing market has become so distorted, the prices have detached from reality.
    The Blueground parasite is now infesting Seattle. Just in time for the purge.
    Luxury-rental startup raises $50M in equity
    “The model is quite recession-resistant,” said Chatzieleftheriou. (BUT, is it Depression resistant?) noted that Blueground, unlike the cash-strapped WeWork (JUST LIKE WeWork!) which similarly partners with landlords to sublease space, signs short-term leases with its landlord partners. The agreements run for one to three years.

    “We can renew at new market rates,” he explained. (SEE?! We are WINNING! We drink tiger blood!)

    Though Blueground is not profitable overall, (aka We are blowing through money like it’s 1929!) it is in the black in Istanbul, Dubai and Athens, according to Chatzieleftheriou. New York is “moving into profitability,” he said. (WHAT? NYC is in a nose dive. They can’t give the units away. People are leaving like fleas from a dog)
    https://therealdeal.com/national/2019/10/23/luxury-rental-startup-raises-50m-in-equity/
    Blackstone involved. Woh. Got the big guns out. “Round B …co-led by two prominent investment firms: WestCap Investment Partners and Prime Ventures. WestCap’s founding partner, Laurence Tosi, is an experienced investor and operator, who served as the long time CFO of private equity firm, Blackstone, and subsequently, as the CFO of Airbnb, the leading home-sharing marketplace.”
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/blueground-raises-50-million-series-b-300944164.html

    Here’s a Blueground special in Belltown: $2990 1b/1ba 671 sq ft. Move in ready! https://hotpads.com/549-denny-way-seattle-wa-98121-1x9h7r4/718/pad-corporate-housing?border=false&lat=47.5901&lon=-122.3757&maxCreated=24&z=13

    Here’s another on Occidental (great neighbs!) $2490 1b/1b 633 sq ft Move in Ready! https://hotpads.com/656-occidental-ave-s-seattle-wa-98104-1x9h7r7/s1212/pad-corporate-housing?border=false&lat=47.5901&lon=-122.3757&maxCreated=24&z=13
    And another! First Hill- Minor Ave. STUDIO! 533 sq ft. $2290 https://hotpads.com/1004-minor-ave-seattle-wa-98104-1x9h7rb/1302/pad-corporate-housing?border=false&lat=47.5901&lon=-122.3757&maxCreated=24&z=13

  205. 2205
    sfrz says:

    I hope this speculative scum goes down in flames. With the Central Bank speculative lending, the housing market has become so distorted, the prices have detached from reality.
    The Blueground parasite is now infesting Seattle. Just in time for the purge.
    Luxury-rental startup raises $50M in equity
    “The model is quite recession-resistant,” said Chatzieleftheriou. (BUT, is it Depression resistant?) noted that Blueground, unlike the cash-strapped WeWork (JUST LIKE WeWork!) which similarly partners with landlords to sublease space, signs short-term leases with its landlord partners. The agreements run for one to three years.

    “We can renew at new market rates,” he explained. (SEE?! We are WINNING! We drink tiger blood!)

    Though Blueground is not profitable overall, (aka We are blowing through money like it’s 1929!) it is in the black in Istanbul, Dubai and Athens, according to Chatzieleftheriou. New York is “moving into profitability,” he said. (WHAT? NYC is in a nose dive. They can’t give the units away. People are leaving like fleas from a dog)
    https://therealdeal.com/national/2019/10/23/luxury-rental-startup-raises-50m-in-equity/

    Blackstone involved. Whoa. Got the big guns out. “Round B …co-led by two prominent investment firms: WestCap Investment Partners and Prime Ventures. WestCap’s founding partner, Laurence Tosi, is an experienced investor and operator, who served as the long time CFO of private equity firm, Blackstone, and subsequently, as the CFO of Airbnb, the leading home-sharing marketplace.”
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/blueground-raises-50-million-series-b-300944164.html

    Here’s a Blueground special in Belltown: $2990 1b/1ba 671 sq ft. Move in ready! https://hotpads.com/549-denny-way-seattle-wa-98121-1x9h7r4/718/pad-corporate-housing?border=false&lat=47.5901&lon=-122.3757&maxCreated=24&z=13

    Here’s another on Occidental (great neighbs!) $2490 1b/1b 633 sq ft Move in Ready! https://hotpads.com/656-occidental-ave-s-seattle-wa-98104-1x9h7r7/s1212/pad-corporate-housing?border=false&lat=47.5901&lon=-122.3757&maxCreated=24&z=13

    And another! First Hill- Minor Ave. STUDIO! 533 sq ft. $2290 https://hotpads.com/1004-minor-ave-seattle-wa-98104-1x9h7rb/1302/pad-corporate-housing?border=false&lat=47.5901&lon=-122.3757&maxCreated=24&z=13

  206. 2206
    Juststoppedby says:

    Teddy Ruxspin, I know two people who died (one better than the other) so that is real enough for me.

    Gotta run, damned tinfoil hat keeps slipping or I’d be able to use up more of my (limited) free time on your links!

  207. 2207

    Hey, Stocks are Back Up Over DOW 26000 and Erik’s Flipping Condos Like pancakes…time for some Java this morning with your brief:

    “… What it’s like to work near the cracked West Seattle Bridge
    Imagine your workplace sits in the bridge’s “fall zone,” where in the worst-case scenario, the span would tilt sideways and fall onto your warehouse. Work is continuing at companies near the bridge, where potential evacuation orders and heavy traffic are complicating daily life. (Photo: Mike Siegel / The Seattle Times)..”

    SWE’s Take: A 6.7 earthquake and down she goes?

    “…Drivers for meal- and grocery-delivery app companies must get “premium pay” for each Seattle order during the coronavirus crisis, the City Council decided…”

    SWE’s take: Grubhub stealing like 30% of restaurant bill costs already, sometimes as high as 50%…its already bankrupting restaurants, this will make it MUCH worse. I do volunteer food delivery for disabled/vulnerable Killer Flu homes under tight lock-downs now and the Grubhub fees I’m not charging the disabled= MUCH MORE Charity FOOD DELIVERED too.

    “… Airline passengers need a national screening program to protect them, Gov. Jay Inslee says, and he has a plan for how this could look. Meanwhile, a Seattle company says it has a way to create an invisible barrier around passengers, and airlines are cracking down on travelers who won’t wear masks…”

    SWE’s Take: If ya test positive but are not transmitting Killer Flu, Inslee wants your name and address too?

    “…As MLB owners and players bicker over reopening, millions of fans may be going, going, gone, columnist Matt Calkins writes…”

    SWE’s take: The Mariners already sported sparse 15000 attendance at empty stadiums, so killer flu impact is moot?

    “…Is Seattle’s protest zone really free of cops? No, Police Chief Carmen Best says, but officers are responding to the stretch of Capitol Hill with caution. She explained why they didn’t go in after a 911 caller said his business was on fire and someone was breaking windows with a hammer…”

    SWE’s take: I suppose if they were making suitcase hydrogen bombs there, the Seattle Mayor police would respond then? Maybe not, LOL…I saw garbage trucks cleaning CHOP up with pickup….tax payers pay for this like the water, electricity and gas?

    “… Shake Shack says it’s “horrified” after three New York City police officers drank milkshakes believed to be contaminated with bleach…”

    SWE’s Take: Poisons can be added that kill and don’t turn up on autopsies too…if ya see rat poison on the shelves at an eatery with a smiling food server, run if you’re a cop…LOL

    “…One city’s solution: Albuquerque, N.M., is answering upheaval over its police by creating a new, unarmed safety department. The unrest continued last night as a man was shot during a protest over a statue of the state’s 16th-century conquistador…”

    SWE’s Take: It was armed citizens [not police] protecting the statute with guns….but police don’t need guns now?

    “…The Supreme Court has ruled that LGBT people are protected from job discrimination under a landmark civil-rights law. Advocates in Washington state say the ruling, which touched on a host of flash points related to LGBT rights, will reinforce local protections and send a strong message. The justices also snubbed Trump’s challenge to California’s “sanctuary” law on immigrants…”

    SWE’s Take: Trump will just put HUGE EO tariffs on Mexico if they try to enter illegal anyway.

    Good news: Sounds like my hair stylist will be open by July 4th….will there be safe distance firework displays on the 4th of July? Are Park Independence Day fireworks killed off by Killer Flu too? Use more Black Label, if that happens?

  208. 2208
    David says:

    RE: softwarengineer @ 2145 – This ‘LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ & Animals’ civil rights issue is why we need to remove trade barriers with China and the others.

    Being able to go outside the country for production and employees protects you from the American-mind.

  209. 2209
    David says:

    By softwarengineer @ 2091:

    RE: David @ 2090
    Yeah…This News Came From Florida This Morning:

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/stupid/goodwill-brawlers-298597

    The Good will stores need police bad too as tempers flair into a brawl over “apparently innocuous” one way safety measures in stores’ hallways to control Killer Flu…where’s Waldo? The police?

    The whole country is at each others’ throats now? Now is the time to defund it?

    Here’s a ‘Karen” getting street justice somewhere post mob-rule: https://twitter.com/AndrewNeill91/status/1272914859387224065

  210. 2210
    ruxpert says:

    RE: Dave @ 2142

    ANARCHY IN PORTLAND, ANTIFA DECLARES AUTONOMOUS ZONE: City Engulfed In Flames
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcejA3cvXS0

  211. 2211
    ruxpert says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 2147

    “Looking at the landscape that is being created via COVID + BLM + ANTIFA =
    US cities are set to take the #CHAZ / Detroit / Camden / St Louis pill and fall into decline.”

    BLM + ANTIFA = DEATH of the AMERICAN CITY
    https://youtu.be/j_Q4KlZkcZU

  212. 2212
    don says:

    RE: ruxpert @ 2147

    Yo, Ruxpert, try to keep up. The Portland thing was weak and the crew gave up soon after, but here’s and even scarier and more threatening development:

    https://katu.com/news/local/eugene-motorists-encouraged-to-avoid-washington-near-w-5th-avenue

    For CS , don’t venture near you-gene!

  213. 2213
  214. 2214
  215. 2215
    Erik says:

    RE: justsomedude12 @ 2131
    It’s called Chop now! Ma’am.., Justsomedude12 is calling our tree fort the old name.

  216. 2216

    Grapple With Your Laptop Keeping Your Comment Page From Suddenly Closing on Seattle Bubble, Guzzle Dunk-in Doughnuts coffee and read the brief:

    “…Three powerhouse companies are signing onto Amazon’s pledge to go carbon neutral by 2040. Based on three continents and in three very different industries, they’ll “drive a new wave of investments and development” in the effort to eliminate or offset greenhouse gases by 2040, an Amazon VP says. But will the pledge’s target be enough?..”

    SWE’s Take: Using electric cars with grid capacity increase using coal is about as environmental as nuclear waste…LOL…then there’s the foreign deficit to grapple with too…

    Good News: The CHOP area barriers are being removed and the CHOP Protesters don’t like Antifa looting and violence “mixed in” either…ask ’em.

  217. 2217
    ruxpert says:

    Should you take the COVID19 Test?
    https://youtu.be/V1Im7jsW9_Y

  218. 2218
    ruxpert says:

    Should you take the COVID19 Test?
    https://youtu.be/V1Im7jsW9_Y


    An Open Letter to Del Bigtree
    https://youtu.be/kdY1IMzyQIc

  219. 2219
    David says:

    By Blurtman @ 2151:

    “If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that”

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/16/cops-refused-to-respond-to-shop-under-attack-near-seattle-chaz-report/

    I don’t know if the gang bangers are of the same stuff as the ones in Atlanta, but if they are, then pure evil is on its way to Seattle.

    Just wait and see.

    I’m listening to the scanner in Atlanta right now. It seems the popo are on strike. Good luck Atlanta. The depravity is off the charts when the wolves get to work.

  220. 2220
    Eastsider says:

    Finally, the chickens are coming home to roost. Here comes the first installment…

    Inslee orders furloughs for most state employees as state revenue plummets
    https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/coronavirus/article243602077.html

  221. 2221
    northender says:

    RE: David @ 2156
    …and there are more big protests planned for Fri. Will more unrest ensue? What motivation do police have to be aggressive? Why chase down a big guy who’s running away? How lawless will Seattle and CHAZ get?

    I let my car tabs expire because I was pretty disgusted with local governments suing to overturn the will of the voters, and I was pretty sure the courts would go with the voters eventually. But now with a budget crisis and all, who knows if we will get $30 tabs. Anyway, I’m not too worried about getting pulled over for expired tabs.

  222. 2222
    wreckingbull says:

    By Eastsider @ 2157:

    Finally, the chickens are coming home to roost. Here comes the first installment…

    Inslee orders furloughs for most state employees as state revenue plummets
    https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/coronavirus/article243602077.html

    Maybe he could ask the Nigerian crime rings if they could lend us some of our money to help see us through these difficult times.

  223. 2223
    Eastsider says:

    RE: wreckingbull @ 2159 – As far as I can tell, no one was fired. If this were a corporation, the CFO or CEO would have been terminated… okay, I am probably wrong because he/she would not have been hired in the first place!

  224. 2224

    RE: northender @ 2158

    My May 2021 tabs went up to $300…the fun goes on and on…will the State Patrol be furloughed too?

    Hey, Call Grubhub and Get Your Star Bucks Coffee Delivered for $11/mug with Grubhub Fees…read the brief:

    “…The Supreme Court today rejected President Donald Trump’s effort to end legal protections for 650,000 young immigrants known as “Dreamers.” Find updates here on the ruling on the DACA program…”

    SWE’s Take: “…“We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies,“ Roberts wrote. “We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action. Here the agency failed to consider the conspicuous issues of whether to retain forbearance and what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients.”

    The Department of Homeland Security can try again, he wrote.

    President Barack Obama announced DACA in 2012. Commonly known as “Dreamers” after the failed legislation that would have provided a path to citizenship, these immigrants have been in the U.S. since they were children.

    Recipients went through extensive background screening to get two-year work permits and protection from deportation.

    The Trump administration in 2017 announced the end of the program, resulting in legal challenges. Those already enrolled still have protections and can renew their two-year permits, but no one new can join…”

    I’m sure employers are clamoring to grab up DACA Milenials now, a two year work permit is a great way encourage them not to hire ya, you’re too unstable….especially with today’s Killer Flu unemployment. Maybe they can qualify for a college loan they’ll never pay back? Its a mess, no matter what the 5/4 Supreme Court ruled, face it. The DACA folks mainly lack skills and experience.

    “…Does the pandemic look worse in the U.S. than in other countries simply because of increased testing here? That argument from President Donald Trump misses the reality, fact checkers say. In a new poll, a majority of Americans are not buying the White House spin that its response to coronavirus is “a cause for celebration.”..”

    SWE’s Take: This was the “Biden partisan” CNN polling done recently on Trump’s re-election chances:

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-2020-election-gop/2019/06/05/id/919108/

    The data is today folks and includes approval rate of Trump Killer Flu response to date. I’d guess its more like a 60-70% approval rate though, the CNN polls suck.

    “…A new study shows why it’s important to wear a mask that covers your nose. Here’s a refresher on wearing that mask correctly, by the way….”

    SWE’s Take: MMMPH…MMMPH…MUMBLE….we can’t understand a word they say with a thick mask on and now they want our airways blocked so we can’t breath or talk at work…LOL…I’m an engineer, I’d use a speaker amplifier outside the mask for conversation. Breathing through the mouth or nose is not non-essential either…LOL

    Good News: With “Grubhub” Take Out the Rage Now….Jack in the box raised all their prices and when did a sandwich, fry and pop combo get to be about $10 fast food price? I see pop is like $3 a mug now…LOL…fries same price. Cook yourself, you’ll get FAR more meat.

  225. 2225

    Boeing MAX News the brief Over-looked today?

    https://news.yahoo.com/faa-explains-why-taking-long-202616284.html

    Looks like were at milestone ????? to completion now….FAA now uses Ouija Boards as Certification Tools now? One Boeing CEO down, two more to go IMO.

    We need more DACA inexperienced folks and that won’t make it worse, trust me…LOL

  226. 2226
    JoeMR says:

    RE: David @ 2105 – Thank god you’re not my neighbor. What a revolting sign. Though you’re probably lying about having put that sign up.

  227. 2227
    Al says:

    Home loans Application at the highest since 2009 – Los Angeles daily news
    In 2009 home prices were taking a big hit so people wanted to buy. But right now house prices are still continuing to climb and applications for mortgages are going through the roof.
    Since March the Fed doesn’t require lenders to have any money in reserves, so banks can lend unlimited amount of money.
    ShadowStats says 34 million unemployed, which is much closer to the real number than what the government is saying.
    I’m just really confused about real estate now. I really want to get in house and have a normal American Dream life style.
    On the other hand, for the first time since coming to Seattle 5 years ago, my rent didn’t go up, so there’s that. I read that rents are dropping fast in Cali.
    Any insights on when to buy a first home? Maybe wait for after election?

  228. 2228
    Eastsider says:

    San Francisco’s rent in May is the lowest since Zumper started the series in 2015. Capitol Hill’s rent is probably $0 in June.

    Once Booming San Francisco Apartment Market Goes in Reverse
    City’s vacancy rate rose to 6.2% in May, up from 3.9% only three months ago

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/once-booming-san-francisco-apartment-market-goes-in-reverse-11592472602 (paywall)

    Rents in San Francisco, the most expensive apartment market in the U.S., are tumbling as the city’s vaunted tech sector sheds jobs and more tenants leave the city.

    The apartment vacancy rate in San Francisco rose to 6.2% in May, according to apartment data firm RealPage. That’s up from 3.9% only three months ago, after stay-at-home orders went into effect and more people in the city decided not to renew their leases.

    San Francisco’s median rent in May for a one-bedroom apartment was also down 9.2% compared with a year ago at $3,360 a month, according to listings platform Zumper. That was still the highest monthly rent of all major U.S. markets, Zumper said, and a reminder of how steeply rents in the city climbed before their more recent descent.

  229. 2229
    Eastsider says:

    The law of unintended consequences?

    Mayor celebrates BLM protests, then calls them ‘domestic terrorism’ when her home is vandalized
    https://thepostmillennial.com/mayor-celebrates-protests-vandalized-home

    Mayor of Olympia, Washington, Cheryl Selby, has been a vocal proponent of Black Lives Matter and backer of the protests that have spread across the country amid the death of George Floyd, but when these same people vandalized her home, she called it “domestic terrorism.”

    This same retraction of endorsement for the behaviour of the protesters and rioters happened with ESPN sportswriter, Chris Martin Palmer, who initially supported the riots in Minneapolis, but called those same people “animals” when they came for his home.

  230. 2230
    Blurtman says:

    RE: Eastsider @ 2160 – Katsina Kollusion Korruption. We need Bosch to follow the money.

    Dimsley is looking at what the Democrat party can do for him, and not what he and his appointees can do for you.

  231. 2231
    T says:

    RE: Al @ 2163

    I feel the same way as you. I’m confused (just recently sold my home), and I see prices continue to climb despite the bad economic news.

    I’m wondering if I should wait after the election? It is a hard call.

  232. 2232
    Eastsider says:

    Portland mayor does not support autonomous zone outside his house. LOL.

    Any politician who approves of CHOP should invite them to his/her neighborhood.

    Police quash attempt to set up Portland autonomous zone
    https://mynorthwest.com/1961188/police-quash-portland-attempt-at-autonomous-zone/

    Protesters were using stolen lumber from nearby construction zones, newspaper boxes, and large planters. They started setting up tents as well.

    The zone, which included graffiti showing BLM with the anarchist symbol, was right outside Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler’s house. Mayor Wheeler said autonomous zones are not the answer to the questions our society is facing.

    “I do not want an autonomous zone set up in Portland,” he told reporters outside his condo. “I’m watching what’s happening in Seattle, and I’m not impressed. I think it’s a distraction from the larger movement, and the movement is justice for black people.”

    Wheeler was out early Thursday cleaning up the mess in his neighborhood. He continued to decry the situation in Seattle.

    “What I’m hearing coming out of Seattle concerns me,” he said. “Armed people walking around the autonomous zone. People being asked to show their papers and demonstrate where they are from at the entrance to the autonomous zone. Businesses potentially being shaken down to be allowed to operate within the autonomous zone. If you are asking if that is something I support, let me be unequivocally clear: I absolutely do not support that.”

  233. 2233
    David says:

    By Al @ 2163:

    Home loans Application at the highest since 2009 – Los Angeles daily news
    In 2009 home prices were taking a big hit so people wanted to buy. But right now house prices are still continuing to climb and applications for mortgages are going through the roof.
    Since March the Fed doesn’t require lenders to have any money in reserves, so banks can lend unlimited amount of money.
    ShadowStats says 34 million unemployed, which is much closer to the real number than what the government is saying.
    I’m just really confused about real estate now. I really want to get in house and have a normal American Dream life style.
    On the other hand, for the first time since coming to Seattle 5 years ago, my rent didn’t go up, so there’s that. I read that rents are dropping fast in Cali.
    Any insights on when to buy a first home? Maybe wait for after election?

    I’d wait and see what happens in Cap Hill. Insurance rates may go through the roof. The City has made it clear they will not provide fire service or police services to that area.

    That is going to cause insurance rates to go crazy it seems.

    Essentially, local government is co-opting the hybrid-gang mentality of conspiring with local thugs to achieve their purposes.

    I’d wait and see if the banks will write loans there too.

    You might be able to pick up a bargain at some point. But it is going to be a run-down area for a long time I suppose.

  234. 2234
    Blurtman says:

    RE: David @ 2168 – OTOH, Prune Face, Itchy and Mumbles have a nice hideout that is protected from police interference.

  235. 2235
    wreckingbull says:

    By Eastsider @ 2160:

    RE: wreckingbull @ 2159 – As far as I can tell, no one was fired. If this were a corporation, the CFO or CEO would have been terminated… okay, I am probably wrong because he/she would not have been hired in the first place!

    It really is time for Suzi the DNC fundraiser and Bernie Madoff investor to go. Now we have this:

    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/local-business/some-washington-workers-seeking-jobless-benefits-say-their-bank-accounts-have-been-frozen/

    The problem is that Jay-Jay still wants her on the team for future political uses.

  236. 2236
    NWA says:

    Look @ these wise homeowners:

    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/3307-NW-68th-St-98117/home/290132

    Bid up 100k in 2018, now they are attempted to sell @ 100k discount (on top of RE comission). Not before trying to +/-break even, obviously.

  237. 2237
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    NWA says:

    Another sound investor:

    https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/11502-6th-Ave-NW-98177/home/21884207

    I wonder where they take their RE advice from.

  239. 2239

    CA just made Flu Masks Mandatory 100% of the time now, so drink your coffee through a mask hole and mumble “good-morning”[sounds like mood gorning] to your masked family and read the brief:

    “…Kent homeowner Alejandra Pérez, who came to the U.S. from Guatemala when she was 12, was overjoyed yesterday when the Supreme Court blocked President Donald Trump’s efforts to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. The program made a tremendous difference in her life, she said. Advocates in Washington state are pleased but warn that this isn’t the end of the fight. Need to catch up? Here’s a Q&A on what DACA is and where it stands now. (Photo: Ken Lambert / The Seattle Times)”

    SWE’s Take: One out 650,000 DACA folks got a home loan mortgage with a 2 year visitation DACA permit….the banks are nuts? Does she even have a Social Security Number [we know she has no job experience], maybe she stole it from a Bubblehead? Did they ever bother to run an eVerify check on her for criminal identity fraud?

    “…It’s “a matter of time before another flight crew is overwhelmed by a design flaw known to Boeing” if the 737 MAX is cleared to fly too soon, a whistleblower wrote to a Senate committee this month. Curtis Ewbank, who last year lodged an ethics complaint alleging shortcomings in the jet’s development, says in his new letter that systemic problems with the jet’s design must be fixed…”

    SWE’s Take: Who needs the FAA, Japan replaced it with their engineers….LOL

    Good News: The glut of plane seats remaining have more elbow room now…

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    NWA says:

    SWE.
    You are a sick, disgusting, prejudiced xenofobe – among other things.
    I normally skip your comments, but saw the DACA one @ 2174.

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    RE: NWA @ 2175
    I Support DACA you Don’t

    You just don’t want immigration reform laws too, Trump does. Without immigration reform laws you can take your DACA political paranoia lies you could “obviously care less about [like your lie about never reading my 1st Amendment free speech comments…LOL] and flush it down the toilet. Trump offered DACA citizenship years ago with immigration reform laws in place, not lawlessness your organized crime Jay-Jay and Dimslee push and your wonderful Seattle mayor’s lawlessness…

    BTW…stop the name calling, obeying the bank laws is NOT RACIST and it drives down Seattle home prices too.

    I just turned in my Trump Re-opening Task Force [I represent the GOP in King County, my single poll vote BTW] ballot in; you’d hate it too wouldn’t you? LOL….Trump’s gonna win by a landslide and you know it too. I’d volunteer for more GOP political party work, but my non-partisan disabled home charity food bank work already absorbs much of my free time….BTW, what charity do you represent? Satanism perhaps, maybe Chinese Communism? LOL I know you support the far left violent fascist groups that like to destroy cities? Cat got your tongue?

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    sfrz says:

    RE: NWA @ 2173 – That’s gonna leave a mark. Ouch.

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    sfrz says:

    RE: NWA @ 2175 – Ding ding ding!!! He copies his extremist blog over to the Tim’s site. Everyone has asked him to stop with the crazy rants.

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    sfrz says:

    We have a new Airbnb empire descending on Seattle . Blueground. Fully furnished. STRs. What could go wrong?

    “The model is quite recession-resistant,” said Chatzieleftheriou. He noted that Blueground, unlike the cash-strapped WeWork which similarly partners with landlords to sublease space, signs short-term leases with its landlord partners. The agreements run for one to three years.

    “We can renew at new market rates,” he explained.

    Though Blueground is not profitable overall, it is in the black in Istanbul, Dubai and Athens, according to Chatzieleftheriou. New York is “moving into profitability,” he said.

    https://therealdeal.com/national/2019/10/23/luxury-rental-startup-raises-50m-in-equity/

    Unlimited buckaroos! “$50 million Series B round…was co-led by two prominent investment firms: WestCap Investment Partners and Prime Ventures. WestCap’s founding partner, Laurence Tosi, is an experienced investor and operator, who served as the long time CFO of private equity firm, Blackstone, and subsequently, as the CFO of Airbnb, the leading home-sharing marketplace.”
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/blueground-raises-50-million-series-b-300944164.html

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    Blurtman says:

    By NWA @ 2175:

    SWE.
    You are a sick, disgusting, prejudiced xenofobe – among other things.
    I normally skip your comments, but saw the DACA one @ 2174.

    Being opposed to illegal immigration does not make one a xenophobe. It may be the case that being opposed to immigration of any sort would. This is a classic big lie to equate illegal with legal immigration.

    Being opposed to illegal immigration only demonstrates that one is opposed to illegal immigration. If you are implying a racist type prejudice on the part of people opposed to illegal immigration, that is another big lie, as there are white, yellow, brown, black and probably purple illegal immigrants, as well.

    The ideas you have in your mind are likely the sick, disgusting things you project onto others, and that box you into a prejudiced way of looking at things.

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    David says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 2180 – He should go to bestgore.com and check out all the Latin gangs loving one another!

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    Eastsider says:

    RE: Blurtman @ 2180 – Even the SCOTUS did not suggest that DACA was legal in its ruling. Also, it is only one vote away from making a legal ruling.

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    Al says:

    This is what I’ve been he hearing: rich folk are buying up real estate like crazy now, because of fear of stock market collapse and devaluation of dollar. Houses are selling like hot cakes. Real estate is the safest asset to hold right now, so we will likely see house prices going up even more, and the expected cyclical crash/correction won’t be coming, even with the massive unemployment.

    What are your thoughts about this? As a first time home buyer, should I be scared that I’ll be priced out of the housing market for a long time? Real estate crash coming, or real estate to the moon? I’m getting itchy finger now, maybe I should get in the market now. I wish you guys would talk about real estate more.

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    sfrz says:

    Welp. Another one bites the dust. Airbnb empire dreams are dust in the wind.
    Queen Anne Airbnb remnants. Maybe that’ll hold off the bank another month. Wonder if they used one shack to finance another shack? They better get some boxes and start packing.
    https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/gms/d/seattle-moving-sale-airbnb-stuff/7127455601.html
    ? Moving Sale – shutting down an Airbnb – Good stuff all in good to excellent condition! Everything is clean and nice!”

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    David says:

    By Al @ 2183:

    This is what I’ve been he hearing: rich folk are buying up real estate like crazy now, because of fear of stock market collapse and devaluation of dollar. Houses are selling like hot cakes. Real estate is the safest asset to hold right now, so we will likely see house prices going up even more, and the expected cyclical crash/correction won’t be coming, even with the massive unemployment.

    What are your thoughts about this? As a first time home buyer, should I be scared that I’ll be priced out of the housing market for a long time? Real estate crash coming, or real estate to the moon? I’m getting itchy finger now, maybe I should get in the market now. I wish you guys would talk about real estate more.

    If you can get financed at a great rate, I’d buy a house. If you believe, as I do, that the Government can only inflate their way out of the debt, then asset prices are going to go up.

    Might be worth waiting til the election. Biden winning will probably portend a stock market decline.

    The World is going to lose faith is the US once the leftist Dems begin to take over the Government. That is going to open the door to the US losing reserve currency status. Then housing prices will drop like a rock.

    If you can buy a house completely financed then you can walk away from the loan if things fall apart.

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