{"id":10112,"date":"2010-03-19T06:00:02","date_gmt":"2010-03-19T13:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=10112"},"modified":"2010-03-18T22:59:26","modified_gmt":"2010-03-19T05:59:26","slug":"morsels-of-market-musings-from-pnwhs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2010\/03\/19\/morsels-of-market-musings-from-pnwhs\/","title":{"rendered":"Morsels of Market Musings from PNWHS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Rather than editorializing on everything I heard at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pacificnwhousingsummit.com\/\" title=\"Pacific Northwest Housing Summit\">Pacific Northwest Housing Summit<\/a> today, I thought you all might just enjoy some unfiltered quotes from the industry professionals.<\/p>\n<h3>Bret Bertolin<\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top:-15px; font-style:italic;\">Senior Analyst, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.erfc.wa.gov\/\" title=\"Washington State Economic and Revenue Forecast Council\">Washington State Economic and Revenue Forecast Council<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>On the broad economy&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We believe that the economy has turned the corner, and it pick up steam by mid-year.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On the savings rate&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You might think it&#8217;s a virtue to save more&#8230; we look at it the other way when we&#8217;re in this kind of a situation.  High savings slows growth.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On unemployment&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The unemployment rate is still very high&#8230; We expect the peak unemployment rate to be in the first or second quarter this year, so we&#8217;re almost there.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On home prices&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We&#8217;re not convinced that this actually is the bottom, either for the US, or for Seattle, or the state.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Bret presented a number of charts and graphs, which he said he would <a href=\"http:\/\/www.erfc.wa.gov\/presentations\/recentPresentations.shtml\" title=\"Washington State Economic and Revenue Forecast Council: Recent Presentations\">post on their website<\/a> sometime in the next week or so.<\/p>\n<h3>Ken Reid<\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top:-15px; font-style:italic;\">Account Manager, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mortgageinsurance.genworth.com\/\" title=\"Genworth Mortgage Insurance\">Genworth Mortgage Insurance<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>On home sales volumes&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Home sales are rising a bit&#8230; The question is, can you sustain this?  And I don&#8217;t know that we have the answer.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On fog-a-mirror lending&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We have learned our lesson.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>Marc Savitt<\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top:-15px; font-style:italic;\">President, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.naihp.org\/\" title=\"National Association of Independent Housing Professionals\">National Association of Independent Housing Professionals<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>On the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=Home+Valuation+Code+of+Conduct\" title=\"The what now?\">Home Valuation Code of Conduct<\/a> (HVCC)&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What this is doing is destroying the entire housing industry.  The housing industry represents about 16% of the overall economy.  It&#8217;s causing job failures, business loss, and most importantly, it&#8217;s causing the erosion of equity in everybody&#8217;s home in this country, just like a foreclosure does.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>Stan Sidor<\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top:-15px; font-style:italic;\">Chairman, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.acow-wa.org\/\" title=\"Appraisal Coalition of Washington\">Appraisal Coalition of Washington<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>On bank-owned inventory growing on the market&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I still see that this year at least, I don&#8217;t see the end of that cycle and that trend.  It will be interesting to continue to watch it through the year and into next year and see what happens.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>Spencer Rascoff<\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top:-15px; font-style:italic;\">Chief Operating Officer, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zillow.com\/\" title=\"Zillow\">Zillow<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>On Seattle-area home values&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Zillow&#8217;s data says that we think we will probably bottom in terms of Seattle-area home values this summer.  Then we expect a relatively long period of pretty much flat real appreciation&#8230; Three to five years of home values kinda kicking along, plus-minus one percent, two percent.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Spencer actually had two slide presentations packed with data that <a href=\"http:\/\/activerain.com\/blogsview\/1554100\/pacific-northwest-housing-summit\" title=\"Spencer Rascoff: PNWHS\">he has already uploaded to his blog<\/a>.  It&#8217;s definitely worth taking a few minutes to check those out.<\/p>\n<h3>Ohan Antebian<\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top:-15px; font-style:italic;\">Vice President of Industry Relations, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realtor.org\/about_nar\/realtors_property_resource\" title=\"REALTORS Property Resource&#0153;\">REALTORS Property Resource&#0153;<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>REALTORS Property Resource&#0153; is an online property portal developed by the National Association of REALTORS&#0174; for REALTORS&#0174; only.  Ohan gave us a sneak peek demo, and it actually looked really sharp.  Too bad it won&#8217;t be available to consumers.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking on the NAR&#8217;s motivation for developing the software, Ohan had this to say&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>At the end of the day, the world operates on incentives, not morality.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>J. Lennox Scott<\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"margin-top:-15px; font-style:italic;\">Chairman &amp; CEO, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.johnlscott.com\/\" title=\"John L. Scott Real Estate\">John L. Scott Real Estate<\/a><\/h4>\n<p>I saved the best for last.<\/p>\n<p>On the $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The tax credit worked&#8230; We had a surge and then an unsurge of sales.  We brought buyers forward by a couple months.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On sales volumes&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sales are at a strong activity level at this time.*  Every single month going forward, and we will see that continue.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Where the market currently sits on his personal sales volume scale&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>90s is frenzy, 80 is strong, 70 is healthy, 60s are adjusting, 50s is major adjustment, 40s is major correction.  &#8230; Now we&#8217;re back up to the 70-80 range.  Strong market is what&#8217;s taking place.*<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On current market conditions&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Right now today, all the indicators are back in alignment.  The affordability index is back to a high.*  We have the debt service to household income ratio back in alignment&#8230; These are two key indicators that I take a look at for historical norms.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On the &#8220;echo boom generation&#8221; entering the housing market&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We flat-out don&#8217;t have enough housing in the more affordable price ranges&#8230; I believe they&#8217;ll save the US economy in about five years, there&#8217;s so many of them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On the relationship between home prices and incomes&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Prices historically have always gone up in direct proportion to household income.  We got out of whack during the sub-prime era, with low interest rates, and the appreciation rate skyrocketed.  So that was an anomaly.  It has now come back down.  It&#8217;s back into historical alignment,* and that&#8217;s what the appreciation will be as we get going down the road.  It will be in direct proportion to increasing household income, on average.  That&#8217;s what it does.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And although <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/SeattleBubble\/status\/10688869654\" title=\"I invited Lennox Scott again to an interview...\">the prospects still look dim<\/a> for Seattle Bubble getting a personal interview with Mr. Scott, he was at least a good sport for the camera:<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 400px; margin:0 auto;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/The_Tim-and-JLS.jpg\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"J. Lennox Scott and The Tim\" alt=\"J. Lennox Scott and The Tim\" width=\"400\" height=\"311\"><\/div>\n<p>Caption contest in the comments.<\/p>\n<div style=\"float:right;\">*<span style=\"font-size:85%;\">(The data says otherwise.)<\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear:both;\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rather than editorializing on everything I heard at the Pacific Northwest Housing Summit today, I thought you all might just enjoy some unfiltered quotes from the industry professionals. 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