{"id":104861,"date":"2017-10-19T08:02:38","date_gmt":"2017-10-19T15:02:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=104861"},"modified":"2017-10-19T08:02:38","modified_gmt":"2017-10-19T15:02:38","slug":"matthew-gardner-not-housing-bubble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2017\/10\/19\/matthew-gardner-not-housing-bubble\/","title":{"rendered":"Matthew Gardner: &#8220;It&#8217;s not a housing bubble&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m still not really sure whether or not we&#8217;re in the midst of another housing bubble in the Seattle area, but here&#8217;s a strong sign that we might be: Local real estate cheerleader and permabull Matthew Gardner is loudly proclaiming that &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.heraldnet.com\/business\/expert-says-economic-outlook-for-the-region-is-rosy\/\" title=\"No, it\u2019s not a housing bubble, and you should ask for a raise\">No, it\u2019s not a housing bubble.<\/a>&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><figure id=\"attachment_104863\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-104863\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner.jpg\" alt=\"Matthew Gardner\" title=\"Matthew Gardner\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" class=\"size-full wp-image-104863\" srcset=\"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner.jpg 300w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner-250x250.jpg 250w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner-32x32.jpg 32w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner-50x50.jpg 50w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner-64x64.jpg 64w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Matthew-Gardner-128x128.jpg 128w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-104863\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Matthew Gardner (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mjdgardner\/\" title=\"LinkedIn: Matthew Gardner\">LinkedIn<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure>No, we\u2019re not in a housing bubble. Now is a good time to ask your boss for a pay raise. And we need to forget about the recession \u2014 it was a long time ago.<\/p>\n<p>Those are the conclusions of economist Matthew Gardner.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m an economist, it\u2019s my job to worry and find bad things, that\u2019s why it\u2019s a dismal science,\u201d said Gardner, who works for Windermere Real Estate in Seattle. \u201cI\u2019m trying to find bad things and I\u2019m having a problem with it.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Try not to laugh out loud at that last bit.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/2zAELvG\" title=\"Are You Missing the Real Estate Boom?: The Boom Will Not Bust and Why Property Values Will Continue to Climb Through the End of the Decade - And How to Profit From Them\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Are-You-Missing-the-Real-Estate-Boom_David-Lereah-sm-250x379.jpg\" alt=\"Are You Missing the Real Estate Boom?: The Boom Will Not Bust and Why Property Values Will Continue to Climb Through the End of the Decade - And How to Profit From Them - by David Lereah, National Association of Realtors Chief Economist\" title=\"Are You Missing the Real Estate Boom?: The Boom Will Not Bust and Why Property Values Will Continue to Climb Through the End of the Decade - And How to Profit From Them - by David Lereah, National Association of Realtors Chief Economist\" width=\"250\" height=\"379\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-30442\" srcset=\"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Are-You-Missing-the-Real-Estate-Boom_David-Lereah-sm-250x379.jpg 250w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Are-You-Missing-the-Real-Estate-Boom_David-Lereah-sm-323x490.jpg 323w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Are-You-Missing-the-Real-Estate-Boom_David-Lereah-sm-162x245.jpg 162w, https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Are-You-Missing-the-Real-Estate-Boom_David-Lereah-sm.jpg 330w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/a>While Gardner used to at least maintain the <em>illusion<\/em> of impartiality, working as an independent economist with his own firm Gardner Economics, since 2015 he has been on staff at Windermere as their chief economist. And we all know how impartial economists are when they&#8217;re directly employed by real estate salespeople. Exhibit A: The book &#8220;Are You Missing the Real Estate Boom?: The Boom Will Not Bust and Why Property Values Will Continue to Climb Through the End of the Decade &#8211; And How to Profit From Them,&#8221; written by David Lereah in 2005 when he was Chief Economist for the National Association of Realtors.<\/p>\n<p>In order to have proper context for Gardner&#8217;s current prediction, let&#8217;s take a look at his track record when it comes to predicting the Seattle-area housing market.<\/p>\n<p>According to an over-the-top positive <a href=\"http:\/\/old.seattletimes.com\/html\/businesstechnology\/2003566552_downtown11.html\" title=\"The year of the condo in downtown Seattle\">February 2007 Seattle Times article headlined &#8220;The year of the condo in downtown Seattle,&#8221;<\/a> he told &#8220;an audience of about 700 that demand for new places to live downtown will remain &#8216;very positive.'&#8221; As we know, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/08\/friday-flashback-seattle-isnt-like-other-cities\/\" title=\"Friday Flashback: &quot;Seattle isn\u2019t like other cities.&quot;\">that didn&#8217;t turn out to be very accurate<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an excerpt from a <a href=\"http:\/\/community.seattletimes.nwsource.com\/reader_feedback\/public\/display.php?id=132\" title=\"Live Q&#038;A on residential real estate\">May 2007 Seattle Times real estate Q&#038;A<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><strong>Q:<\/strong> I expect to see an actual drop in the market sometime around the end of summer. Now taking into account that many of the advertisers in your section of the paper are builders and real estate agents, what is your opinion, why, and when do you expect the present trend to actually start dropping?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>A:<\/strong> I believe that we are in a situation where we are seeing a more-rational market and one that is returning to the more-moderate pace that we saw earlier in the decade. This is not a bad thing. I do not think that we are going to see price declines, rather we will see slowing price increases with well-located, well-priced and well-marketed houses still selling well.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This was just two months before home prices in the Seattle area peaked, eventually falling over thirty percent.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/09\/reporting-roundup-flashback-september-2007\/\" title=\"Reporting Roundup Flashback: September 2007\">In October 2007 Gardner was predicting<\/a> &#8220;a leveling off \u2014 with increases of roughly 3 percent \u2014 for a couple of years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Even after prices started falling sharply, Gardner remained unrealistically optimistic, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/02\/matthew-gardner-predictions-vs-reality\/\" title=\"Matthew Gardner Predictions vs. Reality\">claiming in early 2009 that home price appreciation would return in 2010<\/a>. Of course, prices did not bottom out until early 2012.<\/p>\n<p>So perhaps you can understand why, when I read something like this from Matthew Gardner today, I&#8217;m more likely to believe exactly the opposite:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The dynamics that led to the last housing collapse aren\u2019t in play, locally or nationally, he said. Borrowers are more sound. Home building is slow. And more first-time buyers are looking for a home.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo we have limited supply, we have good demand, we have great credit and we\u2019re not over-leveraged and the interest rates are staying low,\u201d Gardner said. \u201cHousing prospects across America look pretty good as far as I can see.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;As far as I can see&#8221; is the important qualifier there. All that Matthew Gardner <em>ever<\/em> sees is a rosy outlook for real estate.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m still not really sure whether or not we&#8217;re in the midst of another housing bubble in the Seattle area, but here&#8217;s a strong sign that we might be: Local real estate cheerleader and permabull Matthew Gardner is loudly proclaiming that &#8220;No, it\u2019s not a housing bubble.&#8221; No, we\u2019re not in a housing bubble. 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