{"id":1142,"date":"2007-10-03T11:16:16","date_gmt":"2007-10-03T18:16:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2007\/10\/03\/depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-stable-is\/"},"modified":"2010-01-18T19:26:21","modified_gmt":"2010-01-19T03:26:21","slug":"depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-stable-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2007\/10\/03\/depends-on-what-the-meaning-of-stable-is\/","title":{"rendered":"Depends on what the meaning of “stable” is…"},"content":{"rendered":"

Forbes just loves<\/em> to frame their articles around lists. You may recall Seattle showing up frequently on previous such real-estate-related lists, such as Best Places to Flip a Home<\/a> (#1), Richest Cities In The U.S.<\/a> (#8), Best Cities For Jobs<\/a> (#34), and Most Overpriced Places In The U.S. 2005<\/a> (#1). Well, lucky us, we made yet another Forbes list: America’s Most Stable Housing Markets<\/a> (sort of like picking out the warmest hangouts in Antarctica)<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Nationwide, home prices are falling, sales are sluggish and the number of foreclosures is mounting. Ask any economist and you’ll hear that things are bad, and likely to get worse.<\/p>\n

Unless you live in Seattle, where the market is slowing but fundamentals remain strong.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

“Fundamentals remain strong” appears to be nothing more than code for “prices haven’t fallen… yet<\/em>.” Here in Seattle, things aren’t yet “bad,” but they are almost certainly likely to get worse. I guess being “barely ok, and likely to get worse” is enough to catapult us to the top of the list.<\/p>\n

The Emerald City has experienced strong price appreciation over the last six quarters, and that’s expected to continue in the new year, though at a slower pace. In addition to a very low housing inventory and a strong sales rate…<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Wait, did he just say “a very low housing inventory”? That’s a riot. And while sales have been slowing YOY for 21 of the last 22 months, I will grant that through July, it could still be described as a “strong sales rate.” July’s sales were higher than every year outside of 2003-2006. Of course, with the tightening mortgage market, sales in August came to a screeching halt<\/a>, coming in lower than any August since 2001… but we’ll let that slide, since Forbes probably isn’t working off of data that current.<\/p>\n

…there are few non-conforming and high-risk loans on the books than in other cities, which means the area will likely see fewer defaults in the coming months than the rest of the country’s markets.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Really? I suppose with a statement as vague as “than in other cities,” it’s true. But the list of qualifying “other cities” is frankly pretty short. We’re right up there with most of the other cities that started experiencing increasing foreclosures once the appreciation music stopped. For more on the loan picture, check out this<\/a> and this<\/a>.<\/p>\n

To arrive at our list, we teamed with Moody’s Economy.com to develop three prediction models based on a range of factors that affect how prices move. These include, among other things, the state of local economies, new construction contracts, foreclosure rates, local credit markets, sales rates, affordability and inventory.<\/p>\n

[From the slide show<\/a>:]<\/em><\/p>\n

Median home price:<\/strong>$395,000
Annual price change from 2006:<\/strong> 8.9%
Projected price change to 2008:<\/strong> 3.09%<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Moody’s Economy.com sure seems to be fickle with these predictions. Just last month CNN reported on “an analysis conducted by Moody’s Economy.com<\/a>” that showed prices in “Seattle-Bellevue-Everett” declining<\/em> 2.9%.<\/p>\n

Also, it’s not at all clear from the article what specific geographical area they’re referring to when they say “Seattle.” It’s definitely not just the city of Seattle, where the median home price sat at $439,000 last month. It’s also apparently not King County, where the median is $415,000. My best guess is that they’re using some combination of King, Pierce, and Snohomish counties\u2014which makes the prediction of continued price increases seem even more unlikely to come true.<\/p>\n

In related news, the author of this piece and the previously-featured “Best Places to Flip a Home,”<\/a> Matt Woolsey, contacted me after my post about that article:<\/p>\n

I came across your blog while looking for information on Seattle real estate and I must say a lot of the analysis looks great. Your apparent desire to punch me in the face regarding the flipping story is of some concern to me for my next visit to your city, but I nonetheless will continue to follow your site. For future consideration, you should know that all of our stories are comprised of data driven analysis<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

For the record, my comment that I would “really like to gut-punch these reporters” was tongue-in-cheek. You have nothing to fear in Seattle, Matt. Well, not from me, anyway. I can’t speak for anyone that giddily jumped into the market to flip a house after reading that article, only to find that the time for flipping in Seattle is long gone…<\/p>\n

(Matt Woolsey, Forbes<\/a>, 10.01.2007<\/em>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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