{"id":14762,"date":"2011-03-11T12:00:31","date_gmt":"2011-03-11T20:00:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=14762"},"modified":"2011-03-11T12:22:03","modified_gmt":"2011-03-11T20:22:03","slug":"bottom-calling-checkup-nope-still-no-bottom-sighted","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/11\/bottom-calling-checkup-nope-still-no-bottom-sighted\/","title":{"rendered":"Bottom-Calling Checkup: Nope, Still No Bottom Sighted."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s take some time to do another checkup on our <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/20\/bottom-calling-so-wheres-the-bottom\/\" title=\"Bottom-Calling: So Where's the Bottom?\">February 2009 bottom-calling series<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2010\/10\/13\/bottom-calling-checkup-false-bottom-psych-out\/\" title=\"Bottom-Calling Checkup: False Bottom Psych-Out\">our last checkup back in October<\/a> we hadn&#8217;t found a bottom yet.  Let&#8217;s see if we&#8217;re there yet.<\/p>\n<p>First up let&#8217;s have a look at an updated version of the <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/16\/bottom-calling-week-on-seattle-bubble\/#method0\" title=\"Bottom-Calling: Blind Optimism\">&#8220;Blind Optimism&#8221; forecast<\/a> chart:<\/p>\n<p style=\"width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/bottom-calling-method-0_blind-optimism_2010-12.png\" title=\"Bottom-Calling Method 0: Blind Optimism Forecast\" rel=\"lightbox[14762]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/bottom-calling-method-0_blind-optimism_2010-12-600x436.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Bottom-Calling Method 0: Blind Optimism Forecast - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Bottom-Calling Method 0: Blind Optimism Forecast\" width=\"600\" height=\"436\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Oops.  So much for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.raincityguide.com\/2009\/02\/09\/sunday-night-stats-at-bottom\/\" title=\"Ardell's famous &quot;bottom&quot; post\">blind optimism<\/a>.  What about that cool <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/16\/bottom-calling-inventory-based-forecast\/\" title=\"Bottom-Calling: Inventory-Based Forecast\">inventory forecast model<\/a>?  Let&#8217;s have a look at how that&#8217;s shaping up:<\/p>\n<p style=\"width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/bottom-calling-method-1_inventory-based_2010-12.png\" title=\"Bottom-Calling Method 1: Inventory-Based Forecast\" rel=\"lightbox[14762]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/bottom-calling-method-1_inventory-based_2010-12-600x436.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Bottom-Calling Method 1: Inventory-Based Forecast - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Bottom-Calling Method 1: Inventory-Based Forecast\" width=\"600\" height=\"436\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Hmm, well that model worked great right up until it didn&#8217;t.  What about dollars per square foot?  Have we hit a bottom there yet?  Let&#8217;s check Redfin&#8217;s charts for single-family homes in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/county\/118\/WA\/King-County\" title=\"King County Market Trends\">King<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/county\/2\/WA\/Snohomish-County\" title=\"Redfin: Snohomish County Market Trends\">Snohomish<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/county\/3096\/WA\/Pierce-County\" title=\"Redfin: Pierce County Market Trends\">Pierce<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/city\/16163\/WA\/Seattle\" title=\"Seattle Market Trends\">Seattle<\/a> proper:<\/p>\n<p style=\"width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-King_2011-03.png\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: King County\" rel=\"lightbox[14762]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-King_2011-03-600x405.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: King County - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Median Price per Square Foot: King County\" width=\"600\" height=\"405\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Spring 2010: $215\/sqft.  Summer 2010: $225\/sqft.  Latest: $199\/sqft.<\/p>\n<p style=\"width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-Snohomish_2011-03.png\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Snohomish County\" rel=\"lightbox[14762]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-Snohomish_2011-03-600x405.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Snohomish County - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Snohomish County\" width=\"600\" height=\"405\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Spring 2010: $164\/sqft.  Summer 2010: $167\/sqft.  Latest: $145\/sqft.<\/p>\n<p style=\"width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-Pierce_2011-03.png\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Pierce County\" rel=\"lightbox[14762]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-Pierce_2011-03-600x405.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Pierce County - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Pierce County\" width=\"600\" height=\"405\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Spring 2010: $125\/sqft.  Summer 2010: $130\/sqft.  Latest: $114\/sqft.<\/p>\n<p style=\"width: 600px; margin: 5px auto; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-Seattle_2011-03.png\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Seattle\" rel=\"lightbox[14762]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Med-SqFt-Seattle_2011-03-600x405.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Seattle - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Median Price per Square Foot: Seattle\" width=\"600\" height=\"405\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Spring 2010: $323\/sqft.  Summer 2010: $342\/sqft.  Latest: $298\/sqft.<\/p>\n<p>Nope, still not seeing any bottom in any of those charts, either.<\/p>\n<p>When will we hit bottom?  My original guess back in February 2009 was December 2010 at 36% off the peak.  Then the tax credit came around and stalled the correction of local home prices, putting the bottom on hold for about a year.  My new guess is basically jut taking the same prediction and shifting it ahead a year, so December 2011 at a little over a third off the peak (about 11% down from the December 2010 Case-Shiller value).  Given the price drops we&#8217;ve seen in the last couple months from the NWMLS data, much of the remaining correction may be taken care of in the first quarter.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s take some time to do another checkup on our February 2009 bottom-calling series. In our last checkup back in October we hadn&#8217;t found a bottom yet. Let&#8217;s see if we&#8217;re there yet. First up let&#8217;s have a look at an updated version of the &#8220;Blind Optimism&#8221; forecast chart: Oops. 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