{"id":15067,"date":"2011-04-04T12:29:02","date_gmt":"2011-04-04T19:29:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=15067"},"modified":"2011-04-04T12:57:34","modified_gmt":"2011-04-04T19:57:34","slug":"seattle-home-prices-back-in-line-with-per-capita-incomes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/04\/seattle-home-prices-back-in-line-with-per-capita-incomes\/","title":{"rendered":"Seattle Home Prices Back in Line with Per Capita Incomes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There has been a lot of talk the last week or so in the comments about home prices and incomes.  I&#8217;ve linked up <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2010\/09\/23\/big-picture-week-price-to-income-ratio\/\" title=\"Big Picture Week: Price to Income Ratio\">my September post on the topic<\/a> a few times, but I thought it would be nice to run an update since it&#8217;s been half a year.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s my conclusion from that post:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Looking at per capita incomes gives us a better picture of where home prices really began to detach from the local economic fundamentals. From 1999 through 2002, the per capita index averaged 0.4% <span style=\"font-style:italic;\">lower<\/span> than the home price index. In January 2003, the home price index was only 7.7% higher than the per capita income index. By mid-2007, the difference had skyrocketed to 40.4%. The latest readings put the home price index 10.2% above the per capita income index.<\/p>\n<p>By this measure, home prices look to be still about ten percent higher than where incomes suggest they &#8220;should&#8221; be, similar to the low end of the remaining correction suggested by the price to rent ratio.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is fairly well in-line with what I said in <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/02\/02\/predictions-will-2011-finally-be-the-bottom\/\" title=\"Predictions: Will 2011 Finally be the Bottom?\">my 2011 predictions post<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m expecting prices to fall another five to ten percent in 2011, mostly closing <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2010\/09\/23\/big-picture-week-price-to-income-ratio\/\" title=\"Big Picture Week: Price to Income Ratio\">the remaining gap between incomes and home prices<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Before we get to the charts, allow me to explain exactly where the data comes from.<\/p>\n<p>For median household incomes, I&#8217;m using King County&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ofm.wa.gov\/economy\/hhinc\/default.asp\" title=\"Office of Financial Management\">Median Household Income from the OFM<\/a>.  For per capita incomes, I&#8217;m using the Seattle metro area&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bea.gov\/regional\/reis\/default.cfm?selTable=AMSA04&#038;series=AMSA&#038;section=2&#038;areatype=MSA\" title=\"Bureau of Economic Analysis\">Per Capita income from the BEA<\/a>.  Since the BEA&#8217;s metro-area-level data only goes through 2009, I approximated the Seattle-area&#8217;s 2010 per capita income based on Washington State&#8217;s rate of change in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bea.gov\/newsreleases\/regional\/spi\/spi_newsrelease.htm\" title=\"BEA: State Personal Income 2010\">the BEA&#8217;s State Personal Income 2010<\/a>.  For 2011, I&#8217;m assuming incomes flatten (OFM shows a slight decrease 2009 to 2010, while the BEA shows a slight increase from 2009 to 2010).<\/p>\n<p>For home prices, I&#8217;m using the <a title=\"S&amp;P\/Case-Shiller\u00ae Home Price Indices\" href=\"http:\/\/www.homeprice.standardandpoors.com\/\">Case-Shiller home price index<\/a> for Seattle, indexed to September 2008&#8217;s King County median sale price of $415,000.  I converted the CS-HPI into a dollar amount in order to create the price-to-income ratio charts.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, on to the charts.  First up is home price to median household income:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Home-Price-to-Income-median_2011-01.png\" title=\"Seattle Home Price to Income Ratio\" rel=\"lightbox[15067]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Home-Price-to-Income-median_2011-01-600x436.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Seattle Home Price to Income Ratio - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Seattle Home Price to Income Ratio\" width=\"600\" height=\"436\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Still a bit out of whack on this one, with the ratio 19% higher than it was 1990-2001.  However, as I argued in September, I feel like local per capita income might be a better measure, since it&#8217;s undeniable that a lot of wealth has been created in the Seattle area since the late &#8217;90s, a factor that I believe it would be foolish to ignore.  Here&#8217;s the home price to per capita income ratio chart:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Home-Price-to-Income-percapita_2011-01.png\" title=\"Seattle Home Price to Income Ratio\" rel=\"lightbox[15067]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Home-Price-to-Income-percapita_2011-01-600x436.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Seattle Home Price to Income Ratio - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Seattle Home Price to Income Ratio\" width=\"600\" height=\"436\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Whoa.  Check it out.  As of January&#8217;s data, we&#8217;re actually 1% <em>below<\/em> the 1990-2001 average.  I expect we&#8217;ll see a bit of an &#8220;over-correction,&#8221; so <strong>I&#8217;m definitely not calling the bottom<\/strong> based on this metric alone.  That said, it is the first time home prices have actually fallen back down in-line with local economic fundamentals, which is absolutely noteworthy.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the chart of all three measures, indexed to 1990 = 100:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 5px auto; width: 600px; font-size: 0.8em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Home-Prices-and-Incomes_2011-01.png\" title=\"Seattle Home Prices and Incomes\" rel=\"lightbox[15067]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Home-Prices-and-Incomes_2011-01-600x436.png\" style=\"border: 0;\" title=\"Seattle Home Prices and Incomes - Click to enlarge\" alt=\"Seattle Home Prices and Incomes\" width=\"600\" height=\"436\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Are we going to get back to the same relationship between median household incomes and home prices that we had 1990-1997?  Personally, I doubt it.  If you recall, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/20\/bottom-calling-so-wheres-the-bottom\/\" title=\"Bottom-Calling: So Where's the Bottom?\">way back in February 2009<\/a>, I called for the &#8220;bottom&#8221; in December 2010 at 36% off the peak.  Note that this was <em>before<\/em> the $8,000 tax credit put the home price correction on hold for about a year.  As of January, prices as measured by Seattle&#8217;s Case-Shiller home price index are 30% off peak.  Another 6% drop from the peak translates to about another $30,000 off local home prices.  Doesn&#8217;t seem too unreasonable to me by this coming December.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, even once we hit &#8220;bottom,&#8221; I expect we&#8217;ll be staying there for quite some time.  Inflation-adjusted home prices may even keep falling for quite a few years as home prices rise slower than growth in the economy as a whole.  As Jon Talton bluntly put it in <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/jontalton\/2014643415_biztaltoncol03.html\" title=\"Seattle Times: Economy based on real estate is bust\">Saturday&#8217;s column<\/a>: <strong>&#8220;The old boom ain&#8217;t coming back.&#8221;<\/strong>  No doubt.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There has been a lot of talk the last week or so in the comments about home prices and incomes. I&#8217;ve linked up my September post on the topic a few times, but I thought it would be nice to run an update since it&#8217;s been half a year. 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