{"id":17271,"date":"2011-10-03T11:43:09","date_gmt":"2011-10-03T18:43:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=17271"},"modified":"2014-04-08T12:16:15","modified_gmt":"2014-04-08T19:16:15","slug":"terrible-at-math-you-poor-filthy-renter-you-can-own","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/03\/terrible-at-math-you-poor-filthy-renter-you-can-own\/","title":{"rendered":"Terrible at Math, You Poor, Filthy Renter? YOU CAN OWN!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/PolygonYCO_092111hp_cs_1a.jpg\" style=\"border: 0; float:right; margin:0 0 0 10px;\" title=\"Deceptive Polygon Homes Ad\" alt=\"Deceptive Polygon Homes Ad\" width=\"300\" height=\"600\" \/>I spotted the ad at right on the Seattle Times homepage yesterday.  It&#8217;s not as patronizing as <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2007\/11\/30\/your-down-payment-could-cost-less-than-your-latte\/\" title=\"Your down payment could cost less than your latte\">Quadrant Homes&#8217; old &#8220;down payment latte&#8221; ad<\/a> was, but the claim of buying for just $800 a month immediately jumped out at me as unlikely.<\/p>\n<p>Running some quick numbers through my <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/06\/simple-affordability-calculator\/\" title=\"Simple Affordability Calculator\">Simple Affordability Calculator<\/a> indicates that to have a PITI payment of $800 or less, your purchase price would have to be no more than $157,000 at an interest rate of 4.0%.  Of course, that assumes you have $31,400 saved up to make the 20% down payment.  If you don&#8217;t have the down payment or you don&#8217;t qualify for the lowest interest rate, the purchase price that gets you an $800 payment will be even less.<\/p>\n<p>So, where in the Seattle area is Polygon selling brand new homes for $157,000 or less?  I clicked on the ad to find out.  Three clicks down from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.polygonhomes.com\/polygon\/?utm_source=seattlebubble&#038;utm_medium=blog_post&#038;utm_campaign=anti-deception\" title=\"Polygon Homes\">sparse, unhelpful landing page<\/a> that the ad sends you to, I found <a href=\"http:\/\/www.polygonhomes.com\/polygon\/index.php?option=com_iproperty&#038;view=property&#038;id=8&#038;Itemid=54\" title=\"Polygon Homes: Dunhill Terrace, Lynnwood\">the sales pitch for &#8220;Dunhill Terrace,&#8221;<\/a> a townhome complex a couple miles north of Alderwood Mall.  On this page, they advertise homes &#8220;from $176,990,&#8221; and claim that &#8220;If Your Rent is More Than $800, You Can Own at Dunhill Terrace!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s run the numbers on that claim.  According to <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/03\/06\/simple-affordability-calculator\/\" title=\"Simple Affordability Calculator\">my calculator<\/a>, if you put 20% down on that $176,990 home your monthly payment (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/PITI\" title=\"Wikipedia: PITI\">PITI<\/a>) on the resulting $141,592 mortgage at 4.0% would be $896.  Wait, that&#8217;s already more than $800.  Oh, and according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/WA\/Lynnwood\/15720-Manor-Way-98087\/unit-N4\/home\/40098025\" title=\"15720 Manor Way Unit N4 Lynnwood, WA 98087\">the MLS listings for the advertised floor plan<\/a>, HOA dues for these townhomes add another $128 to that monthly payment, bringing your total monthly nut up to <strong>$1,024&mdash;28% higher than the advertised $800 monthly payment<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Home financing is not some sort of dark art full of unexplained mysteries.  There are only a few ways you could buy one of these $180k homes and keep your payment down to the advertised $800 a month.  Even with a 2.0% interest rate (which you can&#8217;t get, even if you get an ARM), the PITI plus HOA dues add up to $871, so it seems apparent that they&#8217;re conveniently excluding the non-optional $128 HOA dues from their calculations, which feels rather dishonest to me.<\/p>\n<p>Here are all the ways I could think of that you might be able to get down to $800 a month:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Put down $82,250 (46%) instead of just $35,400 (20%)<\/li>\n<li>Get an adjustable-rate loan (payment will increase later)<\/li>\n<li>Get an interest-only loan (payment will skyrocket later)<\/li>\n<li>Some sort of short-term builder incentive<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So which one is it?  Polygon doesn&#8217;t let on in their marketing materials.  Even the <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/youcanown-silver-lake-dunhill-flyer.pdf\" title=\"Polygon Homes Dunhill Terrace pdf\">pdf they link to<\/a> on the Dunhill Terrace page just repeats the $800 claim without offering any explanation.<\/p>\n<p>As it turns out, there is one Polygon development in the Seattle area with starting prices under $157,000&mdash;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.polygonhomes.com\/polygon\/index.php?option=com_iproperty&#038;view=property&#038;id=10&#038;Itemid=54\" title=\"Polygon Homes: The Heights At Ridgeview, SeaTac\">The Heights At Ridgeview in SeaTac<\/a>, where you can get a 1-bed, 1-bath townhouse for $140k.  Your PITI would come in below the ad&#8217;s $800 claim at $719, but the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redfin.com\/WA\/Seatac\/21064-40th-Pl-S-98198\/unit-H3\/home\/28580898\" title=\"21064 40th Place S Unit H-3 SeaTac, WA 98198\">$185\/mo HOA dues<\/a> would push you back up to $904.  Oh, and their page for The Heights at Ridgeview changes the claim to &#8220;If Your Rent is More Than $650, You Can Own at The Heights at Ridgeview!&#8221;  So another strikeout there.<\/p>\n<p>Does anyone fall for this junk?  Why is it even legal to make claims like this that are so clearly false?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I spotted the ad at right on the Seattle Times homepage yesterday. It&#8217;s not as patronizing as Quadrant Homes&#8217; old &#8220;down payment latte&#8221; ad was, but the claim of buying for just $800 a month immediately jumped out at me as unlikely. 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