{"id":17478,"date":"2011-10-21T11:00:17","date_gmt":"2011-10-21T18:00:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=17478"},"modified":"2011-10-21T11:11:15","modified_gmt":"2011-10-21T18:11:15","slug":"friday-flashback-condos-providing-a-ray-of-sunshine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/21\/friday-flashback-condos-providing-a-ray-of-sunshine\/","title":{"rendered":"Friday Flashback: Condos &#8220;providing a ray of sunshine&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday&#8217;s post about <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/20\/fly-the-real-estate-cheerleading-skies-with-alaska-air\/\" title=\"Fly the Real Estate Cheerleading Skies with Alaska Air\">Alaska Air&#8217;s condo-booster<\/a> &#8220;article&#8221; reminded me of this 2007 piece in the Seattle Times: <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/realestate\/2004019451_condos17.html\" title=\"Condos a bright spot in housing market\">Condos a bright spot in housing market<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The condo market is healthier than the detached-house market, and prices are holding their own. Those are the key findings from an analysis released Friday of the Seattle-area condominium market by Glenn Crellin, director of Washington State University&#8217;s Center for Real Estate Research.<br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\n&#8220;Crystal balls in real estate are typically very cloudy and imprecise, but it appears the condominium markets, both resale and new development, should outperform their single-family competition in Greater Seattle, with the possible exception of the high-end market.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since peaking at $299,900 in September 2007, King County&#8217;s median condo sale price has dropped 35% to $195,000 as of <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/05\/nwmls-flat-is-still-the-new-up-trust-us\/\" title=\"NWMLS: Flat is Still the New Up. Trust Us.\">the latest NWMLS data<\/a>.  The single-family median is down 27% from its peak.<\/p>\n<p>Cloudy crystal ball, indeed.  You can see <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2007\/11\/19\/link-roundup-condos-so-bright-i-gotta-wear-shades\/\" title=\"Link Roundup: Condos So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades\">my 2007 comments about this piece here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This part of the article really stuck out to me:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The MLS&#8217; numbers demonstrate condominiums&#8217; importance in providing a solution to the housing-affordability problem.<\/p>\n<p>The median price of condos sold in King County this year is $286,000. That&#8217;s 37 percent less than the median for single-family houses, $459,500.<\/p>\n<p>Buyers who purchased at those median prices, making a 10 percent down payment and paying the current 6.63 percent interest rate, would have a $1,649 monthly condo mortgage payment compared with a $2,649 house payment.<\/p>\n<p>The mortgage payment does not include monthly dues for condo owners of several hundred dollars.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The <em>total<\/em> payment (mortgage + tax + insurance) on my single-family house is $1,250.  In what world was $1,649 + $150 (or more) in HOA dues ever considered &#8220;a solution to the housing-affordability problem&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>As it turns out, the best (and only real) solution to &#8220;the housing-affordability problem&#8221; is <em>lower prices<\/em>.  Go figure.<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size:85%; border-top:1px solid #CCCCCC;\">The purpose of our <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/tag\/friday-flashback\/\" title=\"Friday Flashback on Seattle Bubble\">Friday Flashback series<\/a> is to remind people why it&#8217;s never a good idea to base your home purchase decisions on the word of someone with a vested financial interest in selling as many homes as possible for as much as possible, no matter what.  If you&#8217;ve got a good example of local home salespeople or other industry shills on record making fools of themselves in the years before the bubble burst, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/contact\/\">shoot me an email<\/a>.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday&#8217;s post about Alaska Air&#8217;s condo-booster &#8220;article&#8221; reminded me of this 2007 piece in the Seattle Times: Condos a bright spot in housing market The condo market is healthier than the detached-house market, and prices are holding their own. Those are the key findings from an analysis released Friday of the Seattle-area condominium market by&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[206],"tags":[660,4,638],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-17478","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-features","tag-660","tag-condos","tag-friday-flashback"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Friday Flashback: Condos &quot;providing a ray of sunshine&quot; \u2022 Seattle Bubble<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/21\/friday-flashback-condos-providing-a-ray-of-sunshine\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"Friday Flashback: Condos &quot;providing a ray of sunshine&quot; \u2022 Seattle Bubble\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:description\" content=\"Yesterday&#8217;s post about Alaska Air&#8217;s condo-booster &#8220;article&#8221; reminded me of this 2007 piece in the Seattle Times: Condos a bright spot in housing market The condo market is healthier than the detached-house market, and prices are holding their own. 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