{"id":29589,"date":"2014-10-06T10:02:48","date_gmt":"2014-10-06T17:02:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=29589"},"modified":"2014-10-06T10:02:48","modified_gmt":"2014-10-06T17:02:48","slug":"nwmls-levys-big-fine-for-using-zillows-coming-soon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2014\/10\/06\/nwmls-levys-big-fine-for-using-zillows-coming-soon\/","title":{"rendered":"NWMLS Levys Big Fine for Using Zillow&#8217;s &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Back in June when Zillow launched their &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; listing feature, we pointed out here that <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2014\/06\/30\/zillows-coming-soon-wont-coming-seattle\/\" title=\"Zillow's &quot;Coming Soon&quot; Won't be Coming to Seattle\">you wouldn&#8217;t be likely to see &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; listings in the Seattle area<\/a> due to an explicit NWMLS rule forbidding member agents from &#8220;promoting or advertising any property in any manner whatsoever&#8221; before entering the home&#8217;s listing into the NWMLS.<\/p>\n<p>Despite this, a few week later when we <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2014\/07\/09\/zillows-coming-soon-slow-start\/\" title=\"Zillow's &quot;Coming Soon&quot; Off to a Slow Start\">shared some early adoption numbers on the feature<\/a>, there were two Seattle-area &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; listings on Zillow (both were removed later in the day).<\/p>\n<p>I commented at the time that I was &#8220;a bit surprised to see [agents] openly flout the rules like this, given how fine-happy the NWMLS has been in the past.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While I find it somewhat odd that a blogger who has never been a member of the NWMLS (or even a real estate agent at all) would know more about NWMLS rules than member agents, apparently ignorance of the rules is exactly what&#8217;s going on. I received this email last week from a local real estate agent who shared their experience with &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; and the NWMLS:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Within a matter of days of the &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; feature having come online with Zillow, I posted a listing that I would soon be actively marketing on the NWMLS (within 5-7 days or so).  As I am an active user for certain market territories, I wanted to try it out.<\/p>\n<p>To make a long story short, someone red flagged the property I posted as coming soon, reported me to the NWMLS.  At the request of our Managing Broker, even before having received the complaint from the NWMLS, I removed the property from Zillow altogether and thought that was the end of it.  Within a matter of hours of removing it from Zillow, our office received notice of the infraction along with a request for an immediate explanation of my wrongdoing.<\/p>\n<p>Our office responded, including a response from me, and we waited.  Waited and waited&#8230; until last week.  $5,000 fine!  Half of which was suspended on the assumption that I made no further wrongdoing of any kind for one year.<br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nI got my hand caught in the cookie jar.  That&#8217;s fine, and certainly not something that I&#8217;m arguing.  My issue at hand is that the NWMLS is on a &#8220;money grab&#8221;, if you will.  That fine is massive in comparison to just about any other infraction in the traditional legal system (e.g. traffic infractions, DUI&#8217;s, assault, etc.).<br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nI&#8217;m actively proceeding with an appeal to the MLS, even after having been warned that by simply appealing my penalty &#8211; and that costs another $500 to do that &#8211; could in fact increase the $5,000 figure that was levied.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The agent asked to remain anonymous since their appeal is yet to be heard by the NWMLS board, but I will say that they are not one of the agents that I called out in <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2014\/07\/09\/zillows-coming-soon-slow-start\/\" title=\"Zillow's &quot;Coming Soon&quot; Off to a Slow Start\">my July post<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bls.gov\/ooh\/sales\/real-estate-brokers-and-sales-agents.htm\" title=\"BLS Occupational Outlook Handbook: Real Estate Brokers and Sales Agents\">According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics<\/a>, the median earnings of a real estate agent is only $42,000. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s higher here in the Seattle area with our higher home prices, but I suspect $5,000 (or even $2,500) is a non-trivial sum relative to what most agents&#8217; earn in a year.<\/p>\n<p>The NWMLS is a private organization, and obviously they can enforce whatever rules and fines they choose, but given that they essentially have a local monopoly, it seems valid to question whether their fines are reasonable and fair. I think <a href=\"http:\/\/www.inman.com\/2014\/06\/24\/consumer-advocacy-group-weighs-in-against-zillows-coming-soon-feature\/\" title=\"Consumer advocacy group weighs in against Zillow\u2019s \u2018Coming Soon\u2019 feature\">agents using Zillow&#8217;s &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; feature are doing their customers a disservice<\/a>, but what exactly does the NWMLS accomplish by levying $5,000 fines against agents who are ignorant of the NWMLS rules forbidding its use?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back in June when Zillow launched their &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; listing feature, we pointed out here that you wouldn&#8217;t be likely to see &#8220;Coming Soon&#8221; listings in the Seattle area due to an explicit NWMLS rule forbidding member agents from &#8220;promoting or advertising any property in any manner whatsoever&#8221; before entering the home&#8217;s listing into the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"On the blog: NWMLS Levys Big Fine for Using Zillow's \"Coming Soon\" http:\/\/wp.me\/pe2Bv-7Hf","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[206],"tags":[1045,1067,6,1066,849,80],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-29589","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-features","tag-coming-soon","tag-fines","tag-nwmls","tag-off-market-homes","tag-pocket-listings","tag-zillow"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>NWMLS Levys Big Fine for Using Zillow&#039;s &quot;Coming Soon&quot; 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