{"id":6491,"date":"2009-07-22T10:38:14","date_gmt":"2009-07-22T17:38:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=6491"},"modified":"2009-07-22T13:41:11","modified_gmt":"2009-07-22T20:41:11","slug":"more-of-the-usual-boeing-787-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2009\/07\/22\/more-of-the-usual-boeing-787-news\/","title":{"rendered":"More of the usual Boeing 787 news&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 85%; font-style: italic;\">(emphasis added to quotes below)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Flashback to April 26, 2005: <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/boeingaerospace\/2002253256_boeing26.html\" title=\"Orders fly in for Boeing 787\">Orders fly in for Boeing 787<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Currently the 787, <strong>due to enter service in 2008<\/strong>, has a two-year head start on the A350.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>November 7, 2006: <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/businesstechnology\/2003356605_boeing07.html\" title=\"&quot;Good, steady progress&quot; on 787 as Boeing works to lighten up\">&#8220;Good, steady progress&#8221; on 787 as Boeing works to lighten up<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Boeing&#8217;s 787 is <strong>on schedule<\/strong>. Early practice production is going smoothly. A plan to take off extra weight is in place. And the new jet&#8217;s boost to airline operating economics will be significantly better than originally projected.<\/p>\n<p>That was the vigorously upbeat status report Monday from 787 program chief Mike Bair.<\/p>\n<p>With the airplane <strong>less than a year from its first flight<\/strong>, the program is under intense scrutiny for early signs of the kind of disastrous stumbles that have led to two-year delays on the Airbus A380 superjumbo.<\/p>\n<p>But if Bair is feeling the pressure, it isn&#8217;t showing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>July 8, 2007 (7-8-7): <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/businesstechnology\/2003779594_boeing08.html\" title=\"A Dreamliner comes true: Boeing's 787 debuts today\">A Dreamliner comes true: Boeing&#8217;s 787 debuts today<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Dreamliner has been elevated to a worldwide stage because it uses parts produced around the world and shipped to Everett for assembly. It&#8217;s also the first Boeing plane built extensively with composite plastic parts.<\/p>\n<p>And while today is devoted to a celebration, the plane&#8217;s real test will come in <strong>August or September when it&#8217;s scheduled to make its maiden flight<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Fast-forward to July 22, 2009: <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/boeingaerospace\/2009513152_boeing22.html\" title=\"Boeing 787 may not fly this year\">Boeing 787 may not fly this year<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The structural flaw that delayed the first flight of the 787 Dreamliner is more complex than originally described by the company, and the plane&#8217;s inaugural takeoff is likely at least four to six months away, say two engineers with knowledge of Boeing&#8217;s problem.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s got to take at least three to four months just to get something installed on an airplane,&#8221; said a structures engineer who has been briefed on the issue. &#8220;It&#8217;s definitely a costly fix to go and do this work.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>A second engineer, who is familiar with the details of Boeing&#8217;s construction method, said the fix must first be made on the nonflying test airplane in the Everett factory. Assuming that&#8217;s successful, it will take another month or two to install the fix on the first airplane to fly.<br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nIf Boeing&#8217;s initial fix fails to divert enough of the load away from the stress points, the delay in first flight could extend beyond six months, pushing the date out into 2010.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s no guarantee that what (Boeing) is doing will work,&#8221; the second engineer said. &#8220;If the testing or analysis shows it doesn&#8217;t get rid of the load, then the engineers are back to square one.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Doh.  On the up side, maybe the recession will be over by the time the 787 is actually ready to ship to customers.<\/p>\n<p>Also, I&#8217;m curious&#8230;  How many people here really believe that the 787 was truly on schedule from 2005 through 2007?  Having worked in engineering at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.genieindustries.com\/\" title=\"Genie Industries\">a company<\/a> whose primary business is manufacturing, I am well aware of the marketing and politics that goes on behind the scene.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the original &#8220;timeline&#8221; was driven largely by marketing, with the engineers insisting that they needed much more time, but ultimately being ignored.<\/p>\n<p>(<em>Dominic Gates, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/boeingaerospace\/2002253256_boeing26.html\" title=\"Orders fly in for Boeing 787\">Seattle Times<\/a>, 04.26.2005<\/em>)<br \/>\n(<em>Dominic Gates, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/businesstechnology\/2003356605_boeing07.html\" title=\"&quot;Good, steady progress&quot; on 787 as Boeing works to lighten up\">Seattle Times<\/a>, 11.07.2006<\/em>)<br \/>\n(<em>Kirsten Orsini-Meinhard, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/businesstechnology\/2003779594_boeing08.html\" title=\"A Dreamliner comes true: Boeing's 787 debuts today\">Seattle Times<\/a>, 07.08.2007<\/em>)<br \/>\n(<em>Dominic Gates, <a href=\"http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/boeingaerospace\/2009513152_boeing22.html\" title=\"Boeing 787 may not fly this year\">Seattle Times<\/a>, 07.22.2009<\/em>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(emphasis added to quotes below) Flashback to April 26, 2005: Orders fly in for Boeing 787 Currently the 787, due to enter service in 2008, has a two-year head start on the A350. 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