{"id":685,"date":"2007-02-21T10:53:00","date_gmt":"2007-02-21T17:53:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/?p=685"},"modified":"2007-02-21T10:53:00","modified_gmt":"2007-02-21T17:53:00","slug":"seattle-running-6-12-months-behind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seattlebubble.com\/blog\/2007\/02\/21\/seattle-running-6-12-months-behind\/","title":{"rendered":"Seattle Running 6-12 Months Behind"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A common belief (one that I&#8217;ve repeated a <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/california-comparison-part-2.html\" title=\"A California Comparison, Part 2\">couple<\/a> of <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlebubble.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/housing-bubble-time-warp.html\" title=\"Housing Bubble Time Warp\">times<\/a> here) is that housing trends in the Northwest tend to lag California and the nation as a whole by six months to a year.  Obviously we cannot know <i>exactly<\/i> what will happen here, but if we have generally followed California and the national averages in the past, then we can look to them to get a <i>general<\/i> idea of where our housing market is headed in the near future.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s take a look at some graphs to see if the theory holds any water.  All of the following graphs are from the Case-Shiller Index, which tracks same-home sales in 20 markets across the country, including Seattle:<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 5px auto; font-size: 1.1em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/macromarkets.com\/csi_housing\/MSA\/seattle.asp\" title=\"Seattle Home Price Index\">Seattle Home Price Index<\/a><br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/bp1.blogger.com\/_FEzZUX-8Hkg\/RdyHN7GAu9I\/AAAAAAAAAE0\/ia_Ybqvy2_0\/s400\/shiller_sea.png\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 5px;\" title=\"Seattle Home Price Index\" alt=\"Seattle Home Price Index\" width=\"400\" height=\"309\"><\/div>\n<p>As we all no doubt already know, Seattle has experienced quite a climb in prices in the last few years.  You can see in the graph that the gains really started to pick up steam around 2003-2004, but things seem to be leveling off presently.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 5px auto; font-size: 1.1em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/macromarkets.com\/csi_housing\/MSA\/san_diego.asp\" title=\"San Diego Home Price Index\">San Diego Home Price Index<\/a><br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/bp0.blogger.com\/_FEzZUX-8Hkg\/RdyHfrGAu-I\/AAAAAAAAAE8\/1OCMko5gxeU\/s400\/shiller_sdo.png\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 5px;\" title=\"San Diego Home Price Index\" alt=\"San Diego Home Price Index\" width=\"400\" height=\"308\"><\/div>\n<p>San Diego&#8217;s rapid gains began in earnest 2002-2003, but they leveled off in 2005, and actually declined in 2006.  Hmm, interesting.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 5px auto; font-size: 1.1em; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/macromarkets.com\/csi_housing\/MSA\/composite-20.asp\" title=\"Composite-20 Home Price Index\">Composite-20 Home Price Index<\/a><br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/bp0.blogger.com\/_FEzZUX-8Hkg\/RdyHwrGAu_I\/AAAAAAAAAFE\/QXdIxbm7qzc\/s400\/shiller_cmp20.png\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 5px;\" title=\"Composite-20 Home Price Index\" alt=\"Composite-20 Home Price Index\" width=\"400\" height=\"309\"><\/div>\n<p>The composite graph appears to shoot up in 2003-2004, with a peak in early 2006, and declines since then.  (Note that the composite graph tracks only 2000-present.)<\/p>\n<p>Already you can probably see that on the way up, Seattle did in fact seem to lag the other two graphs.  To help us visualize, I took the San Diego graph, and overlaid Seattle onto it, shifting Seattle one year back:<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 5px auto; font-size: 1.1em; text-align: center;\"><b>San Diego Home Price Index w\/ Seattle Overlay<\/b><br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/bp3.blogger.com\/_FEzZUX-8Hkg\/RdyJybGAvAI\/AAAAAAAAAFM\/1F4A_W4neJU\/s400\/shiller_sea%2Bsdo.png\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 5px;\" title=\"San Diego Home Price Index w\/ Seattle Overlay\" alt=\"San Diego Home Price Index w\/ Seattle Overlay\" width=\"400\" height=\"309\"><\/div>\n<p>While they are of course not a <i>perfect<\/i> match, you can see that when Seattle is shifted back a year, both lines become suddenly steeper around the same point, and they both level off around the same point.  This would seem to confirm the theory that Seattle&#8217;s housing cycle has been lagging California (or San Diego at least) by approximately one year.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the Composite-20 graph, with Seattle overlaid and shifted back by six months:<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin: 5px auto; font-size: 1.1em; text-align: center;\"><b>Composite-20 Home Price Index w\/ Seattle Overlay<\/b><br \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/bp2.blogger.com\/_FEzZUX-8Hkg\/RdyKrLGAvBI\/AAAAAAAAAFU\/edgM00rUyCw\/s400\/shiller_sea%2Bcmp20.png\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000; margin: 5px;\" title=\"Composite-20 Home Price Index w\/ Seattle Overlay\" alt=\"Composite-20 Home Price Index w\/ Seattle Overlay\" width=\"400\" height=\"309\"><\/div>\n<p>That looks like a pretty good match, too, with the two tracking very closely since midway through &#8217;03.<\/p>\n<p>So what&#8217;s the conclusion?  During the recent unprecedented run-up in home prices, price growth in Seattle has lagged the nation as a whole by roughly six months, and San Diego by approximately a year.  Both of these measures have shown real price declines in the past year, despite many positive factors (such as job growth, low unemployment, good interest rates, etc.).<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, a reasonable person would conclude that there is a very real possibility that Seattle will also experience price declines in the coming year.  On the flip side, a willfully igorant person would conclude that &#8220;Seattle is special&#8221; and we are totally shielded from experiencing similar price drops.<\/p>\n<p>Declining prices are not by any means certain to happen, but ignoring the evidence that points to such a conclusion seems to me to be a pretty dumb move.<\/p>\n<p>(<i>S&#038;P\/Case-Shiller\u00ae Index, <a href=\"http:\/\/macromarkets.com\/csi_housing\/MSA\/seattle.asp\" title=\"MacroMarkets: S&#038;P\/Case-Shiller\u00ae Index\">MacroMarkets<\/a>, 01.2007<\/i>)<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\">\n<div style=\"margin: 0 auto; padding: 2px; font-size: 12px; width: 150px; text-align: center; border: 1px dashed #4386ce; background-color: #D5E2F1;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/xclick\/business=paypal%40timandjeni.com&#038;no_note=1&#038;tax=0&#038;currency_code=USD&#038;lc=US&#038;item_name=Seattle%20Bubble%20Donation\" title=\"Seattle Bubble Tip Jar\">Seattle Bubble Tip Jar<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A common belief (one that I&#8217;ve repeated a couple of times here) is that housing trends in the Northwest tend to lag California and the nation as a whole by six months to a year. 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