The downside for the husband is that he'll be seen in a VW Beetle now. That's not worth $4500 to me.
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by WestSideBilly » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:51 pm
The reliability joke is too easy, but if the car was a pre-92 I6 model, it's both a clunker and well worth the $4500 to get rid of. A mint V12 model might get $4500, but unlikely unless it's a show-car caliber low-mileage model.
The downside for the husband is that he'll be seen in a VW Beetle now. That's not worth $4500 to me.
The downside for the husband is that he'll be seen in a VW Beetle now. That's not worth $4500 to me.
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by deprogram » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:07 pm
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by deprogram » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:12 pm
Wow... my 1992 Voyager (I sold it for a grand with 200k on the clock) supposedly got 19 mpg combined - fail. Too efficient (!!).
My 1999 Saab also supposedly got 19 mpg. Yeah, maybe if you lit up the tires at every stoplight. Also fail.
Sadly, these are the two least efficient vehicles I have ever owned. Even my 2006 Grand Caravan gets a combined 20 mpg, and I generally do better than that in real world conditions.
Possibly the most practical and boring vehicles ever, but as a non-daily driver it was a sensible choice.
I notice Chrysler went from 18/25 mpg with my vehicle to 17/24 with the new boxy, ugly as sin redesign - and the same engine driving a more sophisticated powertrain with more speeds. Way to go, Chrysler! The .Cd went all to hell with the latest Caravan. Style over... efficiency. Win. Except the styling sucks. Oh well. Fail.
My 1999 Saab also supposedly got 19 mpg. Yeah, maybe if you lit up the tires at every stoplight. Also fail.
Sadly, these are the two least efficient vehicles I have ever owned. Even my 2006 Grand Caravan gets a combined 20 mpg, and I generally do better than that in real world conditions.
Possibly the most practical and boring vehicles ever, but as a non-daily driver it was a sensible choice.
I notice Chrysler went from 18/25 mpg with my vehicle to 17/24 with the new boxy, ugly as sin redesign - and the same engine driving a more sophisticated powertrain with more speeds. Way to go, Chrysler! The .Cd went all to hell with the latest Caravan. Style over... efficiency. Win. Except the styling sucks. Oh well. Fail.
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by deprogram » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:20 am
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by rose-colored-coolaid » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:50 am
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by deprogram » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:10 am
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by jon » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:19 am
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by rose-colored-coolaid » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:49 pm
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by deprogram » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:28 am
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by WestSideBilly » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:49 am
I like cars and driving as much as you do, but I would still greatly prefer to have automated highways in congested urban areas. Driving from Seattle to Tacoma at 3pm? Have fun with that, I'd rather read a book. And I'd rather have soccer mom focused on her obnoxious rugrats and leave the driving to someone/thing actually paying attention.
I don't think automated highways will ever be universal. Every model of automation I've heard of is exclusively for urban areas with heavy traffic and major restricted access freeways. As soon as you get off of I-5 in Bellingham, you're on your own up to Mt Baker.
I don't think automated highways will ever be universal. Every model of automation I've heard of is exclusively for urban areas with heavy traffic and major restricted access freeways. As soon as you get off of I-5 in Bellingham, you're on your own up to Mt Baker.
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by rose-colored-coolaid » Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:31 pm
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by WestSideBilly » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:24 pm
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by deprogram » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:14 pm
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by deprogram » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:36 pm
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Re: Cash for Clunkers
by WestSideBilly » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:37 pm
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